Wood Ticks again

2004-06-05 Thread Janne
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Linda,

sorry to say, but in the area you and we live, wood ticks are part of life for
at least 6 weeks in May June.  I have a great solution tho, get some Guinea
hens to roam your land, they are the BEST for eating wood ticks.  I have had
them for 2 years now, and do not have to be a "monkey" every night, picking
wood ticks from horses, dogs AND especially kids.  :>  And the hens are NOT
noisy as some people warned.  We love'em.

An occasional wood tick still comes around, but not often.  Learnt this from
Kit Davis actually, when visiting their place years ago.

Wood tick can be deadly for foals especially, as they get in their tails and
spine.  One foal died here north of us a few years back because of tick
infestation.  yak!!  Not a fjord tho.

Janne



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread SSlotness
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We live in N. Minnesota, near Duluth. Not as north as the Ofjords. My horses
do not seem to get ticks, but the dogs are covered with them. They go away by
mid summer.

Suzan

The world is so empty if one thinks only of mountains, rivers and cities; but
to know someone here and there who thinks and feels with us, and though
distant, is close to us in spirit --- this makes the earth for us an inhabited
garden.
— Johann von Goethe



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Jon A. Ofjord

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No fooling!
We have very few wood ticks or dog ticks because we have very little 
habitat (grassy areas) and the severity of winter also seems to help. There 
are moose ticks and some deer ticks, but they tend to stay on those 
species. Tolerating the climate is easier for the Fjords than us, though. 
We are in extreme Northeastern Minnesota ( the pointy part ) and in the 20 
years we have been here and in our travels in the area we have seen very 
few wood ticks. We spend and have spent a lot of time outdoors. This is 
Superior  National Forest next to Lake Superior. The big lake is too cold 
to swim in on this side, although I have been in for a quick dip on the 
South Shore (the Northern edge of Wisconsin). The last heavy frost was last 
weekend. We have seen snow every month except July, but it snowed July 4th 
the year before we moved here.


This climate was one of the reasons we started considering Fjords when we 
decided we needed horses back in our lives. They thrive on grass hay so we 
bring in good quality hay from across the Canadian border. They tolerate 
the cold, dry midwinter and the cold, damp Spring and Autumn much better 
than our boarders horses. Most of you know all the other good reasons for 
having Fjords, but climate tolerance was another good one that we felt we 
needed to consider.



Hi,
Who are you fooling about not many wood ticks in northern MN.  I suppose 
you will be telling us there isn't much snow in the winter there and the 
temps seldom get below freezing.  :-) Or are you doing the AZ thing.
But it's a dry heat.  How about if I send you a whole bag of these little 
tick critters?


You can keep 'em! We haven't found any on the horses, dogs, or cats yet 
this year and now that the leaves are coming out on the trees we hope it 
stays that way.



Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Jean Ernest
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The benefits of living in Alaska:  No ticks on horses or dogs or people;
there ARE ticks that infest snowshoe hares and squirrels, but they never
seem to get on dogs or horses.  there are no dog fleas either, altho the
Lynx have fleas and I have seen a huge type of flea on a flying squirrel.
But these fleas do not infest dogs or cats. 

Flies aren't much of a problem, either...no face flies,  manure flies, etc.
 we do have deer flies and of course the gnats and "no see-ums" later on.
AND BIG horse flies later in the summer, also.
AND of course MOSQUITOES! Did I mention the mosquitoes? I have caught
several "cups" of mosquitoes in my "Mosquito Magnet" machine already this
year!  No West Nile virus here yet tho!

Jean in sunny and clear Fairbanks, ALaska, relaxing ater a nice trail ride
on Bjorken this morning.  Will be 85 degrees later! HOT

>Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone
that is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like
"debris" left behind by the ticks.  


Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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RE: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Skeels, Mark A (MED)
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I could believe their might not be many ticks in certain areas of N
Minnesota.  They seem to be heavy in certain areas, and maybe 5 miles
away, there aren't any,, don't know the why of that one.  Our cabin in
Gordon Wisconsin had heavy ticks certain years, other years hardly any
ticks. 

Now a possible remedy.  You know the flea and tick collars for dogs and
cats.  Well they also have ear tags for cows that repel certain types of
insects.  I think you can get them for ticks.  Anyhow,  You can braid or
somehow attach one to the main.

The only problem I see with this, is our fjords would chew them off each
other.  They seem to be stinkers that way.  Curious as a cat at times.
Extension cords,  down electric fence,  it don't seem to matter.  Out of
boredom or whatever, they have to chew on it.

Mark.


We don't have many wood ticks in northern Minnesota.


Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Jon A. Ofjord wrote:


This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

At 07:02 AM 6/4/2004 -0400, you wrote:


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Dear Listers;



I have NEVER had a tick problem in the 12 years I have had horses.  
YUK!!!


Suggestions anyone??



Yes, Linda..move  :-)

We don't have many wood ticks in northern Minnesota.


Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604



Hi,
Who are you fooling about not many wood ticks in northern MN.  I suppose 
you will be telling us there isn't much snow in the winter there and the 
temps seldom get below freezing.  :-) Or are you doing the AZ thing.  
But it's a dry heat.  How about if I send you a whole bag of these 
little tick critters?  I would get chickens to keep the ticks down, but 
I think my J Rs would find great sport in chasing the chickens.  But we 
are getting our pigs tomorrow and I am actually looking forward to 
them.  I hope they like their new quarters that I worked like a dog on 
for two days.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Jon A. Ofjord

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At 07:02 AM 6/4/2004 -0400, you wrote:

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Dear Listers;



I have NEVER had a tick problem in the 12 years I have had 
horses.  YUK!!!


Suggestions anyone??


Yes, Linda..move  :-)

We don't have many wood ticks in northern Minnesota.


Jon & Mary Ofjord
North Coast Fjords
Grand Marais, MN 55604



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Warren Stockwell
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I have a friend that is a chemist she tells me that Tee tree oil is a
natural deterrent for bugs. I put it in all my horse sprays ( coat
conditioner, fly spray ) I will check with her to see what she has to say
regarding ticks. If you have some around, give it a try, I have not had any
big problems with them yet. Maybe it's luck or maybe it's the Tea Tree oil I
don't know for sure.

Roberta
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> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone
that is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like
"debris" left behind by the ticks.



Re: wood ticks & garlic

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Glick
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We had three colts this spring. All three mares are on garlic. One was on
garlic before the colt was born and the other two were started on garlic after
the colts were born. I didn't notice any effects on any of the colts. They all
nursed, gained weight and grew like weeds. I couldn't ask for nicer colts. I
weaned the first colt at three months of age, about two weeks ago. He also
gets garlic with his grain and he cleans it up good.

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
Denver, PA
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Re: wood ticks & garlic

2004-06-04 Thread Tamara Rousso

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Hi Joe,

I've just started using the garlic and have noticed a difference on 
Harrison.  I also have a pregnant rescue mare, but I am leary about 
using lots of garlic on her.  Do you know if it is okay to use on 
pregnant mares and will it off-flavor the milk so the foal won't nurse?


Tamara
Fallbrook  CA

On Friday, June 4, 2004, at 05:44 AM, Joe Glick wrote:


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I feed my horses garlic to help control insect bites. I seldom see 
ticks on my
horses since I'm using garlic. Flys will land on the horses but 
usually don't
bite, as I don't see any signs of bites any more. I feed one ounce a 
day and
add it to their suppliments. During the summer most of my horses get 
no grain,
just pasture grass, garlic and suppliments. Some horses don't really 
like
garlic but they usually clean it up if it's added with something they 
like.

Some horses will eat it by itself.

I buy my garlic from Springtime. Here is their web link:
http://www.springtimeinc.com/live/

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
Denver, PA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Marsha Jo Hannah
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> "Brigid Wasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We have ticks where I board. Fortunately, few get on the horses during 
> non-shedding season, as they attach their disgusting selves when the horses 
> rub on 
> trees and bushes. I have also noticed the scabs on the tail dock. [...]
> I guess they know where to go to be least detected, so it 
> doesn't surprise me that their favorite horse places are the dock and under 
> the 
> lower mandible. I've been told that dog flea and tick shampoo will kill them, 
> although I haven't tried this. Strong fly spray does seem to repel them, and 
> those which do attach I just remove and squash :-s

When we lived in the SF Bay Area of California, all the equines had
major problems with ticks for most of the winter (in that climate,
ticks hibernate during the dry summers).  Few of the trails were
groomed, so any ride resulted in lots of the little critters climbing
up the horses' legs, and of course, they picked them up when on
pasture.  In that area, about 2% of the ticks tested positive for Lyme
disease.

One of my vets got me started worming with ivermectin, every month.
The original idea was to get rid of what she thought was Nansy's case
of neck threadworm, but this regimen had the side effect of killing
ticks!  For the first three weeks after a dose of wormer, we would
occasionally find a crawling tick, or a tiny dead one, but no big
engorged ticks.  The final week of the month, we'd gradually start
finding a few more small attached ticks, but nowhere near the problem
we had before I started worming monthly.  I had another vet tell me
that ivermectin wormer couldn't possibly stay in the animal's system
that long---but he admitted that others of his clients were seeing the
same effect that I was!

The place where we usually found attached ticks was in the equines'
crotches---inner thighs, navel, sheath/udder area.  That was a "no
touch zone" on the donkey, but fortunately, she was flexible enough
that she could clean that area for herself.  The Fjords greatly
appreciated having us pick off ticks.  Nansy was the most
communicative about it---would stomp one hind leg, then look/whuffle
hopefully at us; once we started searching for ticks, she would move
to try to put our hand over a spot that needed attention.  (I had to
be careful, tho, because she would darned near pin me to a wall,
thinking only about where my hand was!)

After a ride, we'd usually go over the Fjords' legs with a flea comb.
That would pull out most of the crawling ticks, before they got up to
the animal's body.  Sometimes, we'd use a bottle of oil to "drown"
them in; most often, we'd just do the combing with the animal standing
on a concrete slab, and use the corner of the comb to squish each
tick.

Fortunately, this area of Oregon seems to have far fewer ticks.  I
don't think I've seen one on the equines, and only a couple on the
dog.  I certainly don't miss them!

Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   anything that can go wrong, will!
15 mi SW of Roseburg, Oregon



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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Dear Listers;

Just wanted to give you a "heads up"...

Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone that is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like "debris" left behind by the ticks.  



 

One more thing about the tick problem.  Watch your horses for any 
change.  Not eating and shifting of weight on feet.  This is how Heidi 
got erlickosis (sp) and they can go down hill very fast from this.  The 
cure is simple antibodic over a 10 day stretch or so.  Wood ticks carry 
this.


--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Epona1971
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In a message dated 6/4/2004 4:09:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone 
that is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like 
"debris" left behind by the ticks.  

** Linda-

We have ticks where I board. Fortunately, few get on the horses during 
non-shedding season, as they attach their disgusting selves when the horses rub 
on 
trees and bushes. I have also noticed the scabs on the tail dock. When I get 
ticks, their favorite hiding place is under my bra (ladies, you're probably all 
itching now!); I guess they know where to go to be least detected, so it 
doesn't surprise me that their favorite horse places are the dock and under the 
lower mandible. I've been told that dog flea and tick shampoo will kill them, 
although I haven't tried this. Strong fly spray does seem to repel them, and 
those which do attach I just remove and squash :-s


/ )_~
/L/L
Brigid Wasson
SF Bay Area, CA
www.Brigid.Clickryder.com



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Joe Glick
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I feed my horses garlic to help control insect bites. I seldom see ticks on my
horses since I'm using garlic. Flys will land on the horses but usually don't
bite, as I don't see any signs of bites any more. I feed one ounce a day and
add it to their suppliments. During the summer most of my horses get no grain,
just pasture grass, garlic and suppliments. Some horses don't really like
garlic but they usually clean it up if it's added with something they like.
Some horses will eat it by itself.

I buy my garlic from Springtime. Here is their web link:
http://www.springtimeinc.com/live/

Joe Glick
Glick Family Farm
Denver, PA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread Carol J. Makosky

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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Dear Listers;

Just wanted to give you a "heads up"...

Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone that is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like "debris" left behind by the ticks.  

Of course, all the horses were checked and all had ticks on their tailbones, forelocks and manes..especially the fjords.  

I have been seeing the same thing here.  I can't count how many ticks I've taken out of Heidi's tail.  I just keep her tail sprayed real good with the usual stuff and spend plenty of time each day picking through the tail hair for ticks.  This is the time that I wish she did not have such a thick tail. They are really bad this year.  Just be thankful the Fjords are light colored so you can see the little buggers crawling on them.  
 



--
Built Fjord Tough
Carol M.
On Golden Pond
N. Wisconsin



wood ticks

2004-06-04 Thread HorseLotti
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Dear Listers;

Just wanted to give you a "heads up"...

Last night we discovered Lena had a wood tick infestation on her tail bone that 
is unbelievable!  We found ticks, scabby spots and what looked like "debris" 
left behind by the ticks.  

Of course, all the horses were checked and all had ticks on their tailbones, 
forelocks and manes..especially the fjords.  

I plan to call my vet this am to see if there is a "frontline" type product for 
horses to control ticks.

I have NEVER had a tick problem in the 12 years I have had horses.  
YUK!!!

Suggestions anyone??

Linda Lottie