Re: [Flightgear-devel] view change crashes
On Saturday 19 August 2006 01:15, Syd wrote: > Hi all, > Within the last week or 2 , Flightgear has been crashing when I press V > to change views I get this error message: > > Attempting to schedule tiles for bogus lon and lat = (-1000,0) > This is a FATAL error. Exiting! > > Has anyone else been experiencing this , or is my system going haywire ? > Cheers, > Syd This problem was reported couple times on the IRC recently, so I think your system is fine. :) Ampere - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
On Friday 18 August 2006 19:19, Jocelyn Couetdic wrote: > -> Or should the 3d clouds code be written to use the FramebufferObject, > which seems to be (from what I could gather on the net) a replacement > for older off-screen rendering and Rendering To Texture using pbuffers > extensions. > BTW, this GL_EXT_framebuffer_object is supported by the ATI drivers. Don't know, as I am not a programmer, but I do know that RenderTexture.cpp could be written in such a way to allow 3D clouds to work with graphic cards other than Nvidia. The first implementation of the 3D clouds works with ATI -- with opensource driver, too! Ampere - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] view change crashes
Hi all, Within the last week or 2 , Flightgear has been crashing when I press V to change views I get this error message: Attempting to schedule tiles for bogus lon and lat = (-1000,0) This is a FATAL error. Exiting! Has anyone else been experiencing this , or is my system going haywire ? Cheers, Syd - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
> Yes... the Lightning also suffers from this jitter when the > parking brake is > applied. It's not as bad as with previous versions of JSBSim > (where it could > rapidly escalate and flip the whole plane over) but it's there and a bit > annoying. > > I haven't played that much with the gear constants - they seem > about right > when landing, so I'm hesitant to mess about with them; but it > could be that > some of the jitter could be reduced that way? > > Cheers, > > AJ OK, I have tried this out and identified the problem. It's with the landing gear. Don't use it, and you're OK! ha. ;-) Seriously, it seems to be there only if/when you use the brakes, and further it seems to only be there at initialization. I've tried it from a rolling speed - braking and stopping, and the jitter seemed not as bad. I can reproduce it in the standalone version of JSBSim using a custom script. That way, it will be much easier for me to develop a fix (and I still can't run OpenGL apps pending resolution of my video card problem). I'll be at the AIAA Modeling and Simulation conference in Keystone CO next week. I believe that at least a couple of papers are being presented about landing gear modeling. I may pick up some ideas there. If not, I may have some time to do some debugging using my wife's notebook, if I get up early enough... Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] RTT issue with ATI cards (3d clouds)
Hi, I hope I'm posting to the right ml. I tried to find out what was wrong with ATI cards, and the 3d clouds code. For information, my system is a laptop with an ATI Mobility X700 graphics card. I run a debian testing, with a 2.6.16 "home build" kernel, and I use the ATI proprietary driver (fglrx) version 8.27.10. I also have a winXP, with which 3d clouds work well. I use flightgear 0.9.10 I did some quick and dirty debugging in the RenderTexture class (using the TestRenderTexture program), and find out, that the reason it doesn't work, is that neither GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, or GLX_SGIX_pbuffer extensions are supported by the ATI GLX implementation : $ glxinfo name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_hyperpipe, GLX_SGIX_swap_barrier, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig client glx vendor string: ATI client glx version string: 1.3 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture GLX version: 1.2 GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_ARB_multisample OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic OpenGL version string: 2.0.5946 (8.27.10) OpenGL extensions: [snip] This causes the initialize method of a RenderTexture object to fail quite early on (in _VerifyExtensions()). As a result, the bbcache code returns this during init : "bbcache:Initialize failed, RTT not available for 3D clouds" So here are a few questions : -> I am totally off ? (I have absolutely no background in OpenGl whatsoever). Is there somebody using those ATI driver, who can confirm that those two extensions are not there ? (and that it's not some @#!% driver installation bug on my system) -> If this is indeed the problem, should someone file a ticket to ATI to ask for support of those extensions in coming releases of the drivers ? -> Or should the 3d clouds code be written to use the FramebufferObject, which seems to be (from what I could gather on the net) a replacement for older off-screen rendering and Rendering To Texture using pbuffers extensions. BTW, this GL_EXT_framebuffer_object is supported by the ATI drivers. Regards, -- Jocelyn Couetdic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making of: jitter.png (Unix)
* Buchanan, Stuart -- Friday 18 August 2006 18:45: > The obvious next question is, could we display the png in a FG dialog box? No. Why would it have to be an FG dialog box?! Isn't the kst window enough? > I'm thinking in terms of a landing tutorial that displays the student's > ground track and airspeed at the end... > > It could be a nice demo for a booth/kiosk. Yes, but only for that. A closer integration with fgfs isn't really desirable. Too OS dependent, and buys you nothing. m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making of: jitter.png (Unix)
--- Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Maybe someone's interested in one way to make nice live streaming graphs > from fgfs values, like I did for this image here: > > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/jitter.png [20 kB] > > Used software: > fgfs, awk, kst (http://kst.kde.org/ -- free & GPL) > The obvious next question is, could we display the png in a FG dialog box? I'm thinking in terms of a landing tutorial that displays the student's ground track and airspeed at the end... It could be a nice demo for a booth/kiosk. -Stuart ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Making of: jitter.png (Unix)
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 18 August 2006 17:41:
> settimer(func {
> print("PLOT ", getprop("/velocities/uBody-fps"), " ",
> getprop("/accelerations/pilot/y-accel-fps_sec"));
> }, 0);
Err ... of course this should be a function that calls itself:
var ubody = props.globals.getNode("/velocities/uBody-fps", 1);
var yaccel = props.globals.getNode("/accelerations/pilot/y-accel-fps_sec", 1);
loop = func {
print("PLOT ", ubody.getValue(), " ", yaccel.getValue());
settimer(loop, 0);
}
loop();
m. :-)
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[Flightgear-devel] Making of: jitter.png (Unix)
Maybe someone's interested in one way to make nice live streaming graphs
from fgfs values, like I did for this image here:
http://members.aon.at/mfranz/jitter.png [20 kB]
Used software:
fgfs, awk, kst (http://kst.kde.org/ -- free & GPL)
(A) make sure fgfs outputs the relevant data. Logging could certainly be
used for that, but I'm not half as familiar with it as with Nasal, so
I simply put a line like the following in a Nasal file:
settimer(func {
print("PLOT ", getprop("/velocities/uBody-fps"), " ",
getprop("/accelerations/pilot/y-accel-fps_sec"));
}, 0);
The actual code looked a bit different, but this should do it. It
outputs lines like the following:
PLOT 0.1429881410812092 0.004077885088460977
(B) create a FIFO and pipe the fgfs output there, filtering out all other
lines, as well as removing the "PLOT" marker along the way:
$ mkfifo /tmp/fifo
$ fgfs --aircraft=OV10_USAFE 2>&1|awk '/^PLOT /{print $2" "$3}' >/tmp/fifo
(C) now wait until fgfs is started and the buffer contains enough values. You
can start the OV10 engines in the meantime. Then start kst on the live
stream:
$ kst -y 1 -y 2 -m 1 -n 1000 stdin http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
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[Flightgear-devel] bo105 wihtout pedals
Hi, all people, who want to fly the bo without padels, can change the line 93 dst0=".0065" dst1=".0065"/> in bo105.xml to dst0=".35" dst1="-.05"/> This adds the throttle input to the pedals, dst0 ist the value at maximum collective and dst1 is the value at minimum collective. The values are not optimized, but should work. Keep in mind, that you loose realism with this, but without pedals it is a good choice. Maik - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim jitter (was: Re: How to turn offmanaged-view?)
> Here's a graph that illustrates it: > > http://members.aon.at/mfranz/jitter.png [20 kB] > > Command line was > > $ fgfs --aircraft=OV10_USAFE --airport=krhv > --disable-real-weather-fetch > > and a few settings in local preferences.xml (nothing > relevant). SimGear & FlightGear from CVS/HEAD, of course. > Plotted properties are: > > /velocities/uBody-fps > /accelerations/pilot/y-accel-fps_sec > > No other part of fgfs messed with them AFAIK, only JSBSim. > The only thing that I did was accelerating and braking. > Nothing else. (y-axis is fgfs frames, that is, one pair of > value output 14 times per second. Yeah, bad fps! :-) > > m. Thanks, Melchior, that helps a lot. Jon - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] JSBSim jitter (was: Re: How to turn off managed-view?)
* Jon S. Berndt -- Friday 18 August 2006 01:42: > Interesting. I ran a test earlier today with the OV-10 sitting on the runway > in JSBSim standalone. It's just sitting there. So, I wonder if there is a > problem in the interaction with FlightGear, somehow? Does anyone else see > this? Here's a graph that illustrates it: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/jitter.png [20 kB] Command line was $ fgfs --aircraft=OV10_USAFE --airport=krhv --disable-real-weather-fetch and a few settings in local preferences.xml (nothing relevant). SimGear & FlightGear from CVS/HEAD, of course. Plotted properties are: /velocities/uBody-fps /accelerations/pilot/y-accel-fps_sec No other part of fgfs messed with them AFAIK, only JSBSim. The only thing that I did was accelerating and braking. Nothing else. (y-axis is fgfs frames, that is, one pair of value output 14 times per second. Yeah, bad fps! :-) m. - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Using waypoints and autopilot
Hello all,I would like to pass some waypoints and turn on the autopilot to drive through this points. Could anyone help me to show some tutorial or howto? Thank you so much,Thiago Holanda - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] How to turn off managed-view?
On Friday 18 August 2006 00:42, Jon S. Berndt wrote: > Interesting. I ran a test earlier today with the OV-10 sitting on the > runway in JSBSim standalone. It's just sitting there. So, I wonder if there > is a problem in the interaction with FlightGear, somehow? Does anyone else > see this? Yes... the Lightning also suffers from this jitter when the parking brake is applied. It's not as bad as with previous versions of JSBSim (where it could rapidly escalate and flip the whole plane over) but it's there and a bit annoying. I haven't played that much with the gear constants - they seem about right when landing, so I'm hesitant to mess about with them; but it could be that some of the jitter could be reduced that way? Cheers, AJ - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
