Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for all previous FG versions now... As a follow-up to the METAR issue: there actually is a workaround for FG 1.9.x and 2.0 - by using a proxy server. The requests sent by FG to a configured proxy server are fine. And the actual HTTP request for the weather server is then generated by the proxy - which, of course, also works. So this revives METAR for older FG versions. Only takes a valid proxy server given to the fgfs command-line. More details in the forum: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10002 cheers, Thorsten -- Centralized Desktop Delivery: Dell and VMware Reference Architecture Simplifying enterprise desktop deployment and management using Dell EqualLogic storage and VMware View: A highly scalable, end-to-end client virtualization framework. Read more! http://p.sf.net/sfu/dell-eql-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On 05 Nov 2010, at 20:37, ThorstenB wrote: Anyway, what are the plans for the next FG release? Hi Thorsten, I have a gut feeling we might just have chatted about this; but anyways, after December 15 (approximately), My immediate workload is settling down a bit, and hoping that we may pull a build off of the hudson machine, it should be too hard to build a release sometime during the late part of December. Cheers, Durk-- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On 7 Nov 2010, at 18:58, Durk Talsma wrote: I have a gut feeling we might just have chatted about this; but anyways, after December 15 (approximately), My immediate workload is settling down a bit, and hoping that we may pull a build off of the hudson machine, it should be too hard to build a release sometime during the late part of December. Right, I'm going to work with Gene (and anyone else!) to add automated steps to Hudson, such that there is zero work in cutting a release (or pre-release, or bug-fix release) beyond pressing one button on Hudson - tagging, make dist, uploading to flightgear.org and the mirrors, building of Mac + Windows installers should all be automated. Releasing software is no fun - let's make the computers do it :) James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, James Turner wrote: On 7 Nov 2010, at 18:58, Durk Talsma wrote: I have a gut feeling we might just have chatted about this; but anyways, after December 15 (approximately), My immediate workload is settling down a bit, and hoping that we may pull a build off of the hudson machine, it should be too hard to build a release sometime during the late part of December. Right, I'm going to work with Gene (and anyone else!) to add automated steps to Hudson, such that there is zero work in cutting a release (or pre-release, or bug-fix release) beyond pressing one button on Hudson - tagging, make dist, uploading to flightgear.org and the mirrors, building of Mac + Windows installers should all be automated. We got quite a bit done today too. The backup is even automated. :D Fred, is there any advantage to using VS2010 to build the Windows binaries with over the VS2008 compiler? I don't follow the C++ side of the house so I don't know of any compiler improvements that FG would benefit from. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
- Gene Buckle a écrit : Fred, is there any advantage to using VS2010 to build the Windows binaries with over the VS2008 compiler? I don't follow the C++ side of the house so I don't know of any compiler improvements that FG would benefit from. I'd stick to VS2008 until the next fg release. -Fred -- Frédéric Bouvier http://my.fotolia.com/frfoto/ Photo gallery - album photo http://www.youtube.com/user/fgfred64 Videos -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Thanks. I think it is pretty inconsiderate of the NOAA to change this two days before our largest flightsim event worldwide :-D But as you pointed out, METAR will have stopped working for older releases too. Which is even worse. m Op 05-11-10 20:37, ThorstenB schreef: That was a problem with the simgear METAR loader. Obviously NOAA is using a shared server for their websites now (one IP for several sites). The new webserver couldn't tell for which website we were asking for. HTTP requires a GET and a Host line - we were missing the latter. A fix is in GIT now. Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for all previous FG versions now... Anyway, what are the plans for the next FG release? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Hello, to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Maik m schrieb am 06.11.2010 09:30: Thanks. I think it is pretty inconsiderate of the NOAA to change this two days before our largest flightsim event worldwide :-D But as you pointed out, METAR will have stopped working for older releases too. Which is even worse. m Op 05-11-10 20:37, ThorstenB schreef: That was a problem with the simgear METAR loader. Obviously NOAA is using a shared server for their websites now (one IP for several sites). The new webserver couldn't tell for which website we were asking for. HTTP requires a GET and a Host line - we were missing the latter. A fix is in GIT now. Unfortunately this means METAR is broken (probably permanently) for all previous FG versions now... Anyway, what are the plans for the next FG release? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On 6 Nov 2010, at 08:46, Maik Justus wrote: to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Just to be clear, NOAA aren't being 'inconsiderate' - the FG code has been broken, and non-compliant, all along - it just happened to be a non-compliance the old servers tolerated. We weren't, prior to Thorsten's fix, sending a valid request - any cache, proxy or server would have been entirely permitted to ignore it. There's no need to postulate complex additions to our side - we should just check our HTTP compliance better! James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Hmmm Something is not quite right yet. I have recompiled simgear and fgfs. I had METAR info this morning, but now after a restart, it says NIL again. Intermittend... Is METAR info read on more than one place? m -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Funny, I disabled METAR for global weather in the GUI and later set it to Live Data again, and now it is collecting METAR info again... without restarting. m Op 06-11-10 12:09, fiers...@zonnet.nl schreef: Hmmm Something is not quite right yet. I have recompiled simgear and fgfs. I had METAR info this morning, but now after a restart, it says NIL again. Intermittend... Is METAR info read on more than one place? -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Saturday 06 November 2010 03:51:28 James Turner wrote: On 6 Nov 2010, at 08:46, Maik Justus wrote: to avoid this happen again in the future: Is it possible to add a metar-server functionality to the mpservers? If the NOAA protocol / access changes we only have to modify the mpservers, not the clients? Just to be clear, NOAA aren't being 'inconsiderate' - the FG code has been broken, and non-compliant, all along - it just happened to be a non-compliance the old servers tolerated. We weren't, prior to Thorsten's fix, sending a valid request - any cache, proxy or server would have been entirely permitted to ignore it. There's no need to postulate complex additions to our side - we should just check our HTTP compliance better! James I looked at the NOAA site last night. http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ There are some seriously old metar files mixed in there! http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ENLU.TXT for example, is from 02 JUN 2007! It would be nice if someone could figure out a way to guard against that! Thanks, Ron -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010 12:23:33 -0600, Ron wrote in message 201011061223.33277.w...@jentronics.com: I looked at the NOAA site last night. http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ There are some seriously old metar files mixed in there! http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/ENLU.TXT for example, is from 02 JUN 2007! It would be nice if someone could figure out a way to guard against that! ..easy now; how do we do historical weather? Or rather, how _should_ we do historical weather? E.g. of interest to air crash investigations? Custom event mp-servers? I understand you guys has set up a few air show mp servers here. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Recompiled all very early this morning. I have just noticed that in global weather, there is no METAR data. METAR source is set to live data. In the METAR data box I read 'NIL'. Something broke the METAR updates? m -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On 5 Nov 2010, at 08:16, fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote: Recompiled all very early this morning. I have just noticed that in global weather, there is no METAR data. METAR source is set to live data. In the METAR data box I read 'NIL'. Something broke the METAR updates? Torsten has been making changes near this (though not in the last couple of days - when was your previous, working, build from?), and I've been making core changes to fix other bugs (David Megginson's startup state issues), so this has probably got knocked around. I'll poke around when I have a spare moment. James -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 09:54 +, James Turner wrote: On 5 Nov 2010, at 08:16, fiers...@zonnet.nl wrote: Recompiled all very early this morning. I have just noticed that in global weather, there is no METAR data. METAR source is set to live data. In the METAR data box I read 'NIL'. Something broke the METAR updates? Torsten has been making changes near this (though not in the last couple of days - when was your previous, working, build from?), and I've been making core changes to fix other bugs (David Megginson's startup state issues), so this has probably got knocked around. I'll poke around when I have a spare moment. Another option would be that the metar server is unavailable .. checking, jup: metar EHAM ERROR: no metar data available from at http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/EHAM.TXT -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
Another option would be that the metar server is unavailable .. checking, jup: metar EHAM ERROR: no metar data available from at http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/EHAM.TXT I guess the same, I run a older GIT from early Octobre, and METAR worked two days ago. Now I get NIL at every airport. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] METAR stopped working
On Friday 05 November 2010 10:21, Heiko Schulz wrote: Another option would be that the metar server is unavailable .. checking, jup: metar EHAM ERROR: no metar data available from at http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/stations/EHAM.TXT I guess the same, I run a older GIT from early Octobre, and METAR worked two days ago. Now I get NIL at every airport. I see it with GIT and version 1.0.0. The files are present on the NOAA server but no version of metar that I have will pull them. Martin. -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
