RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

Now I work with FrameMaker for more than 20 years,
but I had never encountered this issue.
I will not add IDs to the graphics files. At least in my (rare) cases
they would not have helped.
With IDs translation or updating to a new doc. release
would be much more work.
Instead I will take extra care when I move files.
Thanks for the help.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:23 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried; Framers
Subject: RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

...

Hi Winfried,

yes, FrameMaker searches for missing graphics in the last successfully opened 
graphics folder (of the actual session at least). So, if you have just opened a 
first file, all missing graphics for the second file will be replaced with 
graphics for the first file if they have the same names, without checking if 
they are identical.

This can be very annoying and therefore I recommend to use unique IDs for 
graphics (including version/revision) instead of or in addition to simple names.

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin



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Re: FrameMaker on MacOS Retina display?

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Try SwitchResX and choose one of the HiDPI settings.

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FrameMaker on MacOS Retina display?

[Alan Houser]

Colleagues,

I'm migrating from a 13" MacBook Pro to a 13" Retina MacBook Pro. On the 
new system, much of the FrameMaker user interface text (top-level menus, 
dialog box text, etc.) is _tiny_.


I'm running a Windows 7 virtual machine under Parallels 10.

My screen resolution is about 2000 x 1066 (less than full resolution). 
I've experimented with decreasing the resolution on the Mac and on the 
Windows VM, to no real effect. (Interestingly, some UI text, like 
sub-menu items, renders just fine).


Has anybody done this successfully? I feel that I'm missing something 
basic that I must change to resolve the issue.


-Alan

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RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

[Heiko Haida]

 

Hi Harro, 

this is a bug and I think it has been discussed here already. 

The link information will be truncated in the mif (not in the FM file
itself) to the max possilble no. of folders available in the folder
hierarchy at the level where the mif file is actually stored to (not
where the FM file is stored) ! 

In your case, you need 2 more hierarchical folder levels. 

Hi Winfried, 

yes, FrameMaker searches for missing graphics in the last successfully
opened graphics folder (of the actual session at least). So, if you have
just opened a first file, all missing graphics for the second file will
be replaced with graphics for the first file if they have the same
names, without checking if they are identical. 

This can be very annoying and therefore I recommend to use unique IDs
for graphics (including version/revision) instead of or in addition to
simple names. 

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Reng, Dr. Winfried: 

> Hi, 
> 
> I think this is a bug! 
> 
> Steps: 
> 
> Copy a file with a referenced graphics into another folder. The graphics path 
> might be .graphicstest.eps 
> 
> Open the first file. 
> 
> Then open the copied file. It will show the referenced graphics although it 
> should complaint that the graphics file could not be found in .graphics. 
> 
> Obviously FrameMaker calculates for the copied file the graphics path to the 
> graphics file the first file. 
> 
> Best regards 
> 
> Winfried 
> 
> FROM: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
> [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] 
> SENT: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:57 PM
> TO: Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths 
> 
> Winfried Reng said: 
> 
>> However, I do not know how FrameMaker gets the path 
> 
>> to the orginal graphics files. 
> 
>> Does this happen only, if another file is open which points to 
> 
>> the graphics files of the copied file? 
> 
>> Otherwise I wonder how FrameMaker can find out where the 
> 
>> graphics files are located. 
> 
> That part of detecting the absolute file location is easy. After a program 
> accessing a file (through all the relative references), determining the 
> absolute location of a file is trivial in code. 
> 
> The truncation mentioned by Harro is troublesome though. 
> 
> Also, there is a path length limit in Windows - I thought it was 256 
> characters, but may be 64 characters? And this does not explain the network 
> file name issue mentioned … 
> 
> I'll look … 
> 
> Z 
> 
> FROM: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] ON BEHALF OF Harro de Jong
> SENT: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 10:35 AM
> TO: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> SUBJECT: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths 
> 
> hi all, 
> 
> I recently ran into an issue: we received a set of FrameMaker files for 
> translation. After we sent the translated files back to the customer, they 
> complained that all of the image paths in their files were changed. 
> 
> They were using relative paths that had lots of 'parent' references: 
> 
> Graphicsetc 
> 
> When I received these files, I placed them in a directory 4 levels deep: 
> 
> F:Customerprojecttranslationincomingblah.fm 
> 
> When I opened this file Frame asked for the location of external graphics. I 
> selected 'Ignore all missing files' and saved the file as MIF. 
> 
> When I inspected the MIF, the graphics paths were truncated to 
> 
> Graphicsetc 
> 
> So the path gets truncated to the number of levels available from the current 
> location. 
> 
> When I store the file on an UNC path, it gets worse: 
> 
> \ServerCustomerprojecttranslationincomingblah.fm [1] 
> 
> graphics paths: 
> 
> \Graphicsetc [2] 
> 
> In my opinion, this is a bug. When I select 'Ignore all missing files', Frame 
> should leave the existing paths alone. 
> 
> Has anyone else seen the same behavior? 
> 
> Harro de Jong
 

Links:
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[1] file:///\ServerCustomerprojecttranslationincomingblah.fm
[2] file:///\Graphicsetc
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RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

I think this is a bug!
Steps:
Copy a file with a referenced graphics into another folder. The graphics path 
might be .\graphics\test.eps
Open the first file.
Then open the copied file. It will show the referenced graphics although it 
should complaint that the graphics file could not be found in .\graphics.
Obviously FrameMaker calculates for the copied file the graphics path to the 
graphics file the first file.

Best regards

Winfried

From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:57 PM
To: Reng, Dr. Winfried; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths

Winfried Reng said:
>However, I do not know how FrameMaker gets the path
>to the orginal graphics files.
>Does this happen only, if another file is open which points to
>the graphics files of the copied file?
>Otherwise I wonder how FrameMaker can find out where the
>graphics files are located.

That part of detecting the absolute file location is easy. After a program 
accessing a file (through all the relative references), determining the 
absolute location of a file is trivial in code.

The truncation mentioned by Harro is troublesome though.

Also, there is a path length limit in Windows - I thought it was 256 
characters, but may be 64 characters? And this does not explain the network 
file name issue mentioned ...

I'll look ...

Z

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harro de Jong
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 10:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM 10 sometimes changes graphics paths


hi all,

I recently ran into an issue: we received a set of FrameMaker files for 
translation. After we sent the translated files back to the customer, they 
complained that all of the image paths in their files were changed.
They were using relative paths that had lots  of 'parent' references:
..\..\..\..\..\..\Graphics\etc

When I received these files, I placed them in a directory 4 levels deep:

F:\Customer\project\translation\incoming\blah.fm

When I opened this file Frame asked for the location of external graphics. I 
selected 'Ignore all missing files' and saved the file as MIF.
When I inspected the MIF, the graphics paths were truncated to
..\..\..\..\Graphics\etc

So the path gets truncated to the number of levels available from the current 
location.

When I store the file on an UNC path, it gets worse:
\\Server\Customer\project\translation\incoming\blah.fm
graphics paths:
\\Graphics\etc

In my opinion, this is a bug. When I select 'Ignore all missing files', Frame 
should leave the existing paths alone.

Has anyone else seen the same behavior?
Harro de Jong




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RE: PDF Issue

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Still a bug ... no fix provided.

Z

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Hi,

Does anyone have any update on the following response, to a query I posted a 
couple of months ago?

2: The response from an Adobe person here was that the Save as PDF using CMYK 
has a bug (that they have been able to reproduce). No fix indication yet.

I am still unable to save a PDF using CMYK. It will save fine using RGB setting.

Any advice is appreciated.

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Re: PDF Issue

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At 14:42 + 15/1/15, Denis Daly wrote:

>Does anyone have any update on the following response, to a query I posted a 
>couple of months ago?
> 
>2: The response from an Adobe person here was that the Save as PDF using CMYK 
>has a bug (that they have been able to reproduce). No fix indication yet.
> 
>I am still unable to save a PDF using CMYK. It will save fine using RGB 
>setting.

I can confirm this: at FrameMaker 12.0.3.424 I get ok results with RGB PDF, but 
bizzarre ones with CMYK. What appears to be happening in the crude test I've 
just run is that with CMYK selected a graphic in the background is being output 
in the foreground and obliterating text.

Surely it's about time Adobe got CMYK working properly? It's been in use in the 
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PDF Issue

[Denis Daly]

Hi,

Does anyone have any update on the following response, to a query I posted a 
couple of months ago?

2: The response from an Adobe person here was that the Save as PDF using CMYK 
has a bug (that they have been able to reproduce). No fix indication yet.

I am still unable to save a PDF using CMYK. It will save fine using RGB setting.

Any advice is appreciated.

Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer

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Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, 
IRELAND

Mobile: +353 86 3539962
Phone:  +353 21 2439119/140
Fax:   +353 21 2380559
Info:  www.icpnewtech.com

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