Samba 3.2 FreeBSD

2009-02-10 Thread Proskurin Kirill

Hello all.

Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports?

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Re: Samba 3.2 FreeBSD

2009-02-10 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Proskurin Kirill
proskurin...@fxclub.orgwrote:

 Hello all.

 Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports?


net/samba3-devel ??


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Re: How do I spinup disk from power-up in standby ?

2009-02-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar

simply read any sector

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Dieter wrote:


Western Digital SATA disk in power-up in standby mode.
disk is connected to nforce4-ultra
FreeBSD 7.0  amd64

Google found that MirBSD's atactl man page has:

puisspinup  Explicitly spins up the device if power-up in standby (puis)
   mode is enabled.

I can't find anything like this on FreeBSD.  (I checked 7.1 also)
And the disk doesn't show up in dmesg.  It should be ad6,
but there is no ad6 and no Western Digital or WD in dmesg.
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Re: How do I spinup disk from power-up in standby ?

2009-02-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar

   mode is enabled.

I can't find anything like this on FreeBSD.  (I checked 7.1 also)
And the disk doesn't show up in dmesg.  It should be ad6,
but there is no ad6 and no Western Digital or WD in dmesg.


sorry i missed this. here is a problem that it's not seen.

when it enters such a mode?
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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-10 Thread Joshua Isom


On Feb 7, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Polytropon wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:28:46 -0500, Akenner 
slackwarew...@comcast.net wrote:


In order to play an audio CD, you can utilize the cdcontrol command
included in the base system:

% cdcontrol play

Refer to man cdcontrol for further options and eventually how to
specify the CD device (if needed).




One thing that I don't think I've read but personally encountered.  
When using cdcontrol, it seems to tell the cd-rom drive to play the 
disc so it's not really done in software.  If the audio cable from the 
cd-rom drive is not connected to the motherboard you won't get sound.  
For the vast majority of users this is a non-issue, but it be confusing 
to figure out.


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RE: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution

2009-02-10 Thread Arjan van der Oest
Hi Mel,

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, I have been out of the office
for some time...

 Does this one also have a link UP message after nfs mounting? If not,
then
 there's your culprit: network isn't up at mountcritremote time. You
should 
 mark it 'late' in fstab

The UP message came more or less at the same time. Marking it late fixed
the problem, still leaving me puzzled why the NFS mounts work without
problem on identical machines but not in this one. Anyhow, since it's
not a critical fs, the late option works fine.

Thanks.


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Re: How to troubleshoot why ath0 can't connect to a passwordless wireless network?

2009-02-10 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 2/10/09, Yuri y...@rawbw.com wrote:
 Quoting Paul B. Mahol one...@gmail.com:

 wlandebug(8) for general 802.11 debuging

 ath driver have it's own debug options ... documented in source code 


 Thanks!

 In the debug log I see the line:
 ath0: ieee80211_scan_update: no scanner suppport for mode 8
  From source code I see that mode 8 is IEEE80211_M_MONITOR.
 As I understand in 'monitor' mode no packets are being sent or received.

In monitor mode packets can be only received.
The question is why you are using monitor mode at all ...

 When I try to turn it off with 'ifconfig ath0 -monotor' interface
 still seems to stay in monitor mode.

 Why wouldn't -monitor turn monitor mode off?

 Yuri





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FreeBSD 7.1 distribution DVD

2009-02-10 Thread Carl
I've downloaded 7.1-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso and created a bootable USB 
thumb drive with it. It boots up and launches sysinstall as expected. 
However, when I try to launch the liveFS from the Fixit menu, it will 
only look on /dev/acd0. What do I need to modify so that it will look 
for the liveFS on the thumb drive?


Alternatively, since I'm using Grub as a multiboot manager, how would I 
alter the FreeBSD boot configuration such that it boots the liveFS 
directly instead of the primitive sysinstall-only boot option?




Carl / K0802647

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Re: Samba 3.2 FreeBSD

2009-02-10 Thread Proskurin Kirill

Odhiambo Washington wrote:

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Proskurin Kirill


Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports?

net/samba3-devel ??


Oh. But why it is devel?
Samba 3.3 is officially stable.

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Re: Slow DNS (and host: connection timed out)

2009-02-10 Thread David Naylor
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 09:33:36 Mel wrote:
 On Thursday 05 February 2009 22:55:56 David Naylor wrote:
  Hi,
 
  My ISP is using a WinGate DNS but resolving host names often takes a long
  time.  The problem is also present in Konqueror (3  4) and Firefox.
 
  An example:
  # time host google.co.za
  google.co.za has address 66.249.93.104
  google.co.za has address 72.14.207.104
  google.co.za has address 64.233.161.104
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

 Do your own DNS. Your ISP chokes in  ('IPv6') look ups. If you're not
 allowed to, still run a local resolver with aggressive neg ttl caching.

 See the numerous tutorials on the web on how to run your own resolver.

Well spotted.  You are right that the ISP is choking on , except it is 
returning SERVFAIL.  I already have a local named running and acts as a 
forwarder.  Unfortunately I have to use the ISP to resolve names (it is the 
only nameserver I have access to).  

Google says bind won't cache SERVFAIL responces and I have no idea how to 
disable named from forwarding  requests.  


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Re: Samba 3.2 FreeBSD

2009-02-10 Thread Michael Powell
Proskurin Kirill wrote:

 Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Proskurin Kirill

 Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports?
 net/samba3-devel ??
 
 Oh. But why it is devel?
 Samba 3.3 is officially stable.
 

Look in the subdirectory called files for the port. You will see a 
collection of patch files. These are developed by the port maintainer(s) in 
order to facilitate a successful build and runtime for the FreeBSD OS 
environment.

Since these maintainer(s) are volunteers who do this in their spare time 
there can be a lag between the time some upstream application releases a new 
version and the port gets updated for FreeBSD. 

It is still possible that one can try and simply download the source tarball 
for some application and compile it outside of the ports system. You may or 
may not be successful with this. In any event, should you pursue this path 
you will find that future maintainability isn't as easy as if you had just 
stuck with the ports system.

-Mike
 


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Re: Samba 3.2 FreeBSD

2009-02-10 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:04:52 +0300
Proskurin Kirill proskurin...@fxclub.org wrote:

Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Proskurin Kirill

 Just wondering - why samba 3.2+ is not in a ports?
 net/samba3-devel ??

Oh. But why it is devel?
Samba 3.3 is officially stable.

Have you tried contacting the port maintainer?

ti...@freebsd.org

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nss_ldap SSL/TLS problems..

2009-02-10 Thread Arjun Singh
Hi,

I'm trying to set up an ldap server on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE.

I installed all of the latest versions of openldap24-server,
openldap24-client, nss_ldap, and pam_ldap.

When I do any sort of ldapsearch or 'getent passwd' or anything, everything
works perfectly. The only time I have trouble is when I'm logging in via
SSH..then it gets really weird.

1.) When I log in as a user in LDAP only and give the incorrect password
first and then supply the correct password, everything works fine. If the
user is in wheel, I can sudo.
2.) When I log in as the same user and give only the correct password the
first time, it hangs for roughly 45 seconds and then lets me in. Even though
this user is in wheel, it says that the user is not in the sudoers file.

Here are the log messages I get in auth.log that correspond to the events
above:

sshd[54031]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user uid=user..(cut)...
(Invalid credentials) # This is the incorrect pw
sshd[54029]: error: PAM: authentication error for user from localhost
#Incorrect pw
sshd[54032]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable
# correct pw
sshd[54029]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost port
32935 ssh2 #correct pw

When I enter just the right password, the first time, I get this in the log:

sshd[54047]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost port
51972 ssh2
sshd[54050]: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP server

Again, when SSL/TLS are disabled, I get normal log output and none of the
weird stuff above..

I turned on debugging in nss_ldap.conf and found that each time I gave only
the correct password (corresponding with the 45 second hang) I found this in
the debug output:

...bunch of normal looking output...
ldap_chkResponseList ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
ldap_chkResponseList returns ld 0x801b31480 NULL
ldap_int_select
read1msg: ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
ber_get_next
TLS trace: SSL3 alert write:fatal:bad record mac --- what is the cause of
this?
ldap_free_connection 1 0
ldap_free_connection: actually freed
ldap_err2string
ldap_result ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5
wait4msg ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 (timeout 3000 usec)
wait4msg continue ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
** ld 0x801b31480 Connections:
** ld 0x801b31480 Outstanding Requests:
   Empty
  ld 0x801b31480 request count 0 (abandoned 0)
** ld 0x801b31480 Response Queue:
   Empty

I get the above regardless of whether I'm using start_tls or ssl.

If you have any insight, it'd be really useful. I've spent tons of time
scouring lists for help and haven't found anything yet..

Thanks,

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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:31:41PM -0400, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Glen Barber wrote:
 
  On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Marc G. Fournier scra...@hub.org wrote:
  Are you starting hald and dbus via rc.conf?
 
  Yes ... both mouse and keyboard have been working great ...
 
 
  Well, that's good to hear. ;)
 
  Thought I'd as to be safe.
 
 Ya, that was the easiest problems to search on google and get fixed :)
 
 I'm going to try downgrading to xorg 7.3 ... I'm having headaches with 
 fonts (Location bar in firefox3 is unreadable, although all pages are fine 
 ... mail messagesin mulberry are unreadable, although the message index is 
 *just* readable, etc) ... someone mentioned some changes in 7.4 concerning 
 fonts, and I figure, my luck, this might be something that is trickling 
 into other areas :(

for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700
laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver
instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.
And if I enable_hald=YES in rc.conf, my cdrom is not working at all.
I submitted a PR on this:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=i386/131426


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Newsletter PIEK International Education Center I.E.C.

2009-02-10 Thread Piek International Education Centre (I.E.C.)

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Re: ipv6 and freebsd

2009-02-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
gahn wrote:
 Ok, i meant the configuration of ipv6_network_interface=fxp0 alone 
 doesn't seem to be working:

[...]

 how could I enable IPv6 only on the interface fxp0 instead of every interface?

It is possible to completely disable IPv6 on an interface, but man (8)
ndp recommends against doing this manually.

However, you can pretty well achieve the same effect by informing the
interfaces to not accept RAs.

First (and to answer your next question), enable 'auto config'. You can
put the next line in /etc/sysctl.conf to enable it at boot (without the
word 'sysctl'):

pearl# sysctl net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1

Now, you can disable acceptance of rtadv messages on individual
interfaces by:

pearl# ndp -i fxp1 -- -accept_rtadv

...or re-enable:

pearl# ndp -i fxp1 -- accept_rtadv

So, I think that this will suit your requirements. The only difference
being is that although the unused interfaces won't accept RAs, they will
still have a link-local address.

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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:39:33PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:

 for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700

Sorry, do you really run FreeBSD with xorg on this machine? This laptop
must be at least 10 years old, right?

 laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
 7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver

Do you have [x] CHIPS enabled when you run make config in
x11-drivers/xorg-drivers? I guess this should install the right driver
for your Armada.

 instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.

Did you follow the hints in /usr/ports/UPDATING?


Uwe

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Re: CUPS, initial PATH environment

2009-02-10 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 01:46:46PM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote:
 If one installs CUPS as the printing system, one must use the
 /usr/local/bin versions of lp, lpr, lpq and lprm instead of the
 FreeBSD versions in /usr/bin, otherwise you get errors when using
 the command line interface...
 
 I could rename /usr/bin/lp, lpr, lpq, lprm to e.g. lp.origfreebsd, etc..
 forcing the use of the /usr/local/bin versions
 but this would oblige me to do that again after every FreeSBD upgrade.
 
 Or I could put /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin in the path.
 Two questions:
 - is this a save thing to do (won't other things go wrong then?)
 - if OK to do that, where can I change the path for every user, whatever
   shell (csh, sh, bash, tcsh, rbash) he uses?

Hi,

Having installed CUPS only recently here's what helped me:

http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~ranga/notes/freebsd_cups.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/cups/article.html
http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/cups_setup.html

Make sure cups is fired up upon boot:
/etc/make.conf:
WITH_CUPS=YES
CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes

Make sure System lpr doesn't get built/installed when you build a new
system/kernel:

/etc/src.conf:
WITHOUT_LPR=YES

Replace system lpr-things with a link to the CUPS equivalents:
cd /usr/bin
for i in lp* ; do mv $i $i.freebsd-original ; ln -s /usr/local/bin/$i $i ; done

Hope this helps,
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Re: xorg 7-current ( kde || nvidia driver ) == desktop crash

2009-02-10 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 03:28:09PM +0100, Uwe Laverenz wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:39:33PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
 
  for me xorg 7.4 doesn't work at all on 7.1-stable i386 Compaq Armada 1700
 
 Sorry, do you really run FreeBSD with xorg on this machine? This laptop
 must be at least 10 years old, right?

I keep it as an additional test box. The issue is that 7.3 worked and 7.4
doesn't on this box.

  laptop, I get no device found at X -configure stage. It worked fine with
  7.3. The graphics device is Chips and Technologies. When I use vesa driver
 
 Do you have [x] CHIPS enabled when you run make config in
 x11-drivers/xorg-drivers? I guess this should install the right driver
 for your Armada.

sure. As I said, chips (and mouse and keyboard) worked fine with 7.3, but not
anymore. I blame hal and dbus.

 
  instead I get to the graphics screen, but still no mouse or keyboard.
 
 Did you follow the hints in /usr/ports/UPDATING?

yes, I did. After that didn't help I deinstalled and reinstalled all X-related
ports - same result.

On 8.0-current i386 I have different problems (black screen, cannot return
to console, have to reboot) but the result is the same - xorg 7.4 isn't
working at all.

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Re: CUPS - no german Umlaut characters

2009-02-10 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 07:01:03PM +0100, Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote:
 Try some sort of filter like print/enscript:
   # enscript your_file
 should get your Umlaut's.
 

Thanks much for the hint! I installed a2ps-a4 - workes nicely - and
prints Umlauts :-)

Kind regards,
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mysqld out of memory

2009-02-10 Thread Valentin Bud
Hello community,

 Today I had for the first time this problem with mysql on a production
server.
The following start flowing in the mysql-err.log
090210  9:12:17 [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: Out of memory (Needed
1676280 bytes)

Doing a top resulted in mysql eating up about 2GB of memory of a total of 4
GB which
i have on that particular box. After googling a little i found some post on
the mailing list about
setting kern.maxdsiz to 1GB. After that I have checked out the kern.maxdsiz
with
# limits -Hd
Resource limits (current):
  datasize  1048576 kB

I noticed that it is already at 1GB. Now my problem is how can i avoid this
in the future because
on that production server mysql is crucial or in case it happens how ca I be
the first to know
of that problem?

I will post some info about the server
# uname -a
FreeBSD nemty 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #5: Tue Mar 25 16:38:28 CET
2008 r...@nemty:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEMTY  i386

# mysqladmin version
...
Server version  5.0.75-log
...
If there are any other info that might help in troubleshooting this problem
i will be glad
to provide them. Thanks for yout input.

a great day,
v
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Re: mysqld out of memory

2009-02-10 Thread Ivan Voras
Valentin Bud wrote:

 
 I noticed that it is already at 1GB. Now my problem is how can i avoid this
 in the future because
 on that production server mysql is crucial or in case it happens how ca I be
 the first to know
 of that problem?

If you examine the mysql-server script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d you'll see
it supports the mysql_limits option for rc.conf. Set
mysql_limits=YES to /etc/rc.conf and the server start with removed limits.

You can increase maxdsiz (which is different than limits) by adding a
line to loader.conf, something like:

kern.maxdsiz=2GB
kern.dfldsiz=2GB

Note that you can't increase it to more than 3 GB on i386.

Another thing is that mysql shouldn't take infinite amounts of memory to
work. You need to configure entries in my.cnf to match your limits and
maxdsiz (in steady state + estimated spikes).



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Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

2009-02-10 Thread FreeBSD

Graeme Dargie a écrit :


-Original Message-
From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] 
Sent: 06 February 2009 16:47

To: Graeme Dargie
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

Graeme Dargie a écrit :

-Original Message-
From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] 
Sent: 04 February 2009 21:55

Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

FreeBSD a écrit :

Graeme Dargie a écrit :

If you do a dmesg are you also showing a watchdog time out for the nic ?

I only ask as I am having the exact same problem with the exact same 
card and I have yet to find a solution, if I come across something I 
will let you know.


Regards
Graeme

Not a single time...sorry.


-Original Message-
From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] Sent: 26 January 2009 
18:58

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

FreeBSD a écrit :

Hi everyone,

Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the 
card available:


SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari

Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP'
event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already
established. To address the issue, check current link state after
driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in
r185753 on fast ethernet controllers.

---

I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I 
get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I 
dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works 
fine for every other PCs.


Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP

I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result.

There is the pciconf -lv output:

r...@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x02831028 chip=0x816810ec 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00

vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet

There is the output of vmstat -i:

interrupt  total   rate
irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766  0
irq19: atapci0277001  3
cpu0: timer156068748   1961
Total  156409515   1966

Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the 
same IRQ?


Thank you for your help,

Martin
I just tried with a brand new Dell 2708 switch and the problem is 
still there. I just confirmed that the UP/DOWN occurs every 10 minutes 
(+- a few seconds).


Thanks again,

Martin


Just to follow-up on my own problem...

I tried to disable some options of the card with :
ifconfig re0 -rxcsum -txcsum -tso -lro -vlanhwtag

but nothing as changed. I just tried to download a big file (FreeBSD 
7.1-REL DVD iso in fact) to see if the deconnection occurs even during a 
transfer. The DVD downloaded successfully and I verified that the MD5 
are OK. BUT, /var/log/messages continue to tell me that:

Feb  4 16:09:29 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
Feb  4 16:19:26 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
Feb  4 16:19:30 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
Feb  4 16:19:32 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN

during the transfer (which worked OK). I don't know if that can help 
someone to help me ;)


Thanks,

Martin

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I have a solution to this well a work around.

Add -tso to the relevant line in /etc/rc.conf

ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.1.103  netmask 255.255.255.0 -tso

Adding -tso stops the link up / link down problem. Now I am understand that 
this may increase cpu if the traffic on the nic is high. I am sure some one the 
list will know of any other implications this may have.

It is a known problem and I site I read the bug had been submitted so hopefully it wont exist in 8.0 


Regards

Graeme



As I stated in my last post, I tried to disable a few options, including 
TSO. Still, I gived a try to your workaround. I now have this line in 
rc.conf:

ifconfig_re0=DHCP -tso

but I have the same problem (it disconnect every 10 minutes and ask for 
an IP to the DHCP).


Thanks for your suggestion,

Martin
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I don't use DHCP so it never causes me a problem, have you considered setting a 
static IP address ?

Regards

Graeme



IT WORKS!!! As soon as I setted a static IP there is no deconnection 
anymore. Thanks for 

Upgrade to 7.1 and upgrade of ports broke Xorg

2009-02-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
If anyone spots something that would solve this problem, I'd appreciate your 
pointing it out to me.  I'm far from an expert on X, so I could easily be 
missing something simple.


FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan  1 14:37:25 UTC 2009

Xorg runs the CPU up to 100% and makes the machine unusable.

PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
37218 root  1 1180   300M  5784K RUN1   0:58 100.00% Xorg

There's no errors in the Xorg.log, and the startup of Xorg appears to be 
perfectly normal - until the machine locks up.  After that I can't kill Xorg, 
can't restart it (Ctl-Alt-Bksp) and can't switch to a tty to see what's going 
on.


I've seen this behavior before, and it was caused by the video driver.  So I 
uninstalled and reinstalled the xf86-video-ati driver, but the problem persists.


Here's the xorg.conf file.  This is a single monitor setup - very simple:

Section ServerLayout
   Identifier X.org Configured
   Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
   InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
   InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
#   RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
   ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
   FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
EndSection

Section Module
#   Load  GLcore
   Load  xtrap
EndSection

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Keyboard0
   Driver  kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
   Identifier  Mouse0
   Driver  mouse
   Option  Protocol auto
   Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section Monitor
   #DisplaySize   10   100 # mm
   Identifier   Monitor0
   VendorName   DELL
   ModelName1905FP
EndSection

Section Device
   Identifier  Card0
   Driver  radeon
   VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
   BoardName   RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
   BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
   Identifier Screen0
   Device Card0
   MonitorMonitor0
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 1
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 4
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 8
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 15
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 16
   EndSubSection
   SubSection Display
   Viewport   0 0
   Depth 24
   Modes   1280x1024
   EndSubSection
EndSection

hald and dbus are running fine, and the keyboard and mouse are detected.

# ps -auxw | grep -e hald -e dbus
messagebus   915  0.0  0.0  3336  1708  ??  Is   11:15AM   0:00.01 
/usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system
haldaemon   1021  0.0  0.1  6728  4292  ??  Ss   11:15AM   0:02.25 
/usr/local/sbin/hald

root1025  0.0  0.1  5760  2456  ??  I11:15AM   0:00.02 hald-runner
root1033  0.0  0.1  5564  2236  ??  I11:15AM   0:00.01 
hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
root1036  0.0  0.0  3620  1556  ??  S11:15AM   0:00.08 
hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd0 (hald-addon-storage)
root1038  0.0  0.0  3620  1556  ??  S11:15AM   0:00.08 
hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd1 (hald-addon-storage)


# hal-device | grep -e mouse -e kbd
 info.category = 'input.mouse'  (string)
 info.capabilities = { 'input', 'input.mouse' } (string list)
 input.device = '/dev/sysmouse'  (string)
 input.x11_driver = 'mouse'  (string)
 info.addons = { 'hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse' } (string list)
 freebsd.driver = 'ukbd'  (string)
 freebsd.device_file = '/dev/ukbd0'  (string)
 input.device = '/dev/ukbd0'  (string)
 input.x11_driver = 'kbd'  (string)
38: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'
 info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'  (string)
 freebsd.driver = 'atkbd'  (string)
 freebsd.device_file = '/dev/atkbd0'  (string)
 input.x11_driver = 'kbd'  (string)
 info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'  (string)
 platform.id = 'atkbd.0'  (string)
39: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'
 info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'  (string)
 freebsd.driver = 'atkbdc'  (string)
 platform.id = 'atkbdc.0'  (string)

Here's the Xorg.log:

X.Org X Server 1.5.3
Release Date: 5 November 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE 

Re: ipv6 and freebsd

2009-02-10 Thread gahn

Thanks for the tips.

But i still only see the fe80::..., link-local address, not the fec0:... 
something as I expected.

--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 From: Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca
 Subject: Re: ipv6 and freebsd
 To: ipfr...@yahoo.com
 Cc: freebsd general questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 6:28 AM
 gahn wrote:
  Ok, i meant the configuration of
 ipv6_network_interface=fxp0 alone
 doesn't seem to be working:
 
 [...]
 
  how could I enable IPv6 only on the interface fxp0
 instead of every interface?
 
 It is possible to completely disable IPv6 on an interface,
 but man (8)
 ndp recommends against doing this manually.
 
 However, you can pretty well achieve the same effect by
 informing the
 interfaces to not accept RAs.
 
 First (and to answer your next question), enable 'auto
 config'. You can
 put the next line in /etc/sysctl.conf to enable it at boot
 (without the
 word 'sysctl'):
 
 pearl# sysctl net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv=1
 
 Now, you can disable acceptance of rtadv messages on
 individual
 interfaces by:
 
 pearl# ndp -i fxp1 -- -accept_rtadv
 
 ...or re-enable:
 
 pearl# ndp -i fxp1 -- accept_rtadv
 
 So, I think that this will suit your requirements. The only
 difference
 being is that although the unused interfaces won't
 accept RAs, they will
 still have a link-local address.
 
 Steve


  
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Re: ipv6 and freebsd

2009-02-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
gahn wrote:
 Thanks for the tips.
 
 But i still only see the fe80::..., link-local address, not the fec0:... 
 something as I expected.

Provide the output to:

# sysctl -a net.inet6.ip6.accept_rtadv
# ndp -i fxp0
# ifconfig fxp0

...and, run a tcpdump on fxp0 capturing only IPv6 packets. Eventually
you should see the router advertisements:

# tcpdump -n -i fxp0 ip6

If you don't see them, check your router config. What type of router is
it? Most routers have RAs disabled by default.

Steve
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please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Constantin Stalzer
Hello, can you please remove all search results with the name Constantin 
Stalzer immediately, so that my name will not be seen on google.
 thanks in advance...pleasseee

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Re: Upgrade to 7.1 and upgrade of ports broke Xorg

2009-02-10 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Paul Schmehl wrote:

 If anyone spots something that would solve this problem, I'd appreciate 
 your pointing it out to me.  I'm far from an expert on X, so I could 
 easily be missing something simple.

I didn't spot anything, but you could try switching to a VESA driver
and seeing if the issue still persists. If not, then it's a radeon
driver issue and you can proceed from there.

Henrik


 FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan  1 14:37:25 UTC 2009

 Xorg runs the CPU up to 100% and makes the machine unusable.

 PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
 37218 root  1 1180   300M  5784K RUN1   0:58 100.00% Xorg

 There's no errors in the Xorg.log, and the startup of Xorg appears to be  
 perfectly normal - until the machine locks up.  After that I can't kill 
 Xorg, can't restart it (Ctl-Alt-Bksp) and can't switch to a tty to see 
 what's going on.

 I've seen this behavior before, and it was caused by the video driver.  
 So I uninstalled and reinstalled the xf86-video-ati driver, but the 
 problem persists.

 Here's the xorg.conf file.  This is a single monitor setup - very simple:

 Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection

 Section Files
 #   RgbPath  /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
ModulePath   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/
FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/
 EndSection

 Section Module
 #   Load  GLcore
Load  xtrap
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
#DisplaySize   10   100 # mm
Identifier   Monitor0
VendorName   DELL
ModelName1905FP
 EndSection

 Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  radeon
VendorName  ATI Technologies Inc
BoardName   RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
 EndSection

 Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes   1280x1024
EndSubSection
 EndSection

 hald and dbus are running fine, and the keyboard and mouse are detected.

 # ps -auxw | grep -e hald -e dbus
 messagebus   915  0.0  0.0  3336  1708  ??  Is   11:15AM   0:00.01  
 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --system
 haldaemon   1021  0.0  0.1  6728  4292  ??  Ss   11:15AM   0:02.25  
 /usr/local/sbin/hald
 root1025  0.0  0.1  5760  2456  ??  I11:15AM   0:00.02 hald-runner
 root1033  0.0  0.1  5564  2236  ??  I11:15AM   0:00.01  
 hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse: /dev/ums0 (hald-addon-mouse-sy)
 root1036  0.0  0.0  3620  1556  ??  S11:15AM   0:00.08  
 hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd0 (hald-addon-storage)
 root1038  0.0  0.0  3620  1556  ??  S11:15AM   0:00.08  
 hald-addon-storage: /dev/acd1 (hald-addon-storage)

 # hal-device | grep -e mouse -e kbd
  info.category = 'input.mouse'  (string)
  info.capabilities = { 'input', 'input.mouse' } (string list)
  input.device = '/dev/sysmouse'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'mouse'  (string)
  info.addons = { 'hald-addon-mouse-sysmouse' } (string list)
  freebsd.driver = 'ukbd'  (string)
  freebsd.device_file = '/dev/ukbd0'  (string)
  input.device = '/dev/ukbd0'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'kbd'  (string)
 38: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'
  info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbd_0'  (string)
  freebsd.driver = 'atkbd'  (string)
  freebsd.device_file = '/dev/atkbd0'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'kbd'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/atkbdc_0'  (string)
  platform.id = 

upgrading xorg - no mouse

2009-02-10 Thread kenneth hatteland
I am running several machines with freebsd 7.1 Up until the last xorg 
update I have been a happy camper, but the last 2 weeks or so my mouse  
does not work, neither on i386 or amd64 architecture. Tried reinstalling 
to release ( using stable on all machines) and building world etc, but 
the same shit happens. Fluxbox starts fine, but no mouse action.
Any ideas ? Is it just for me to wait for a repaired xorg, or is it so I 
have to configure every time I upgrade from now on, and in that case 
could anyone point me to a place to learn how to fix it.
If you`d like to see any printouts from my system just state which file 
is interesting and I`ll provide them..


Blessed Be
Kenneth Hatteland, Norway
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Re: upgrading xorg - no mouse

2009-02-10 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:48 PM, kenneth hatteland
kenneth.hattel...@kleppnett.no wrote:
 I am running several machines with freebsd 7.1 Up until the last xorg update
 I have been a happy camper, but the last 2 weeks or so my mouse  does not
 work, neither on i386 or amd64 architecture. Tried reinstalling to release (
 using stable on all machines) and building world etc, but the same shit
 happens. Fluxbox starts fine, but no mouse action.
 Any ideas ? Is it just for me to wait for a repaired xorg, or is it so I
 have to configure every time I upgrade from now on, and in that case could
 anyone point me to a place to learn how to fix it.
 If you`d like to see any printouts from my system just state which file is
 interesting and I`ll provide them..


Read /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding the Xorg update.

Add a 'ServerFlags' section to xorg.conf containing:
option AutoAddDevices off

HTH.

-- 
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Re: nss_ldap SSL/TLS problems..

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Cowart
Arjun Singh wrote:
 I'm trying to set up an ldap server on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE.
 
 I installed all of the latest versions of openldap24-server,
 openldap24-client, nss_ldap, and pam_ldap.
 
 When I do any sort of ldapsearch or 'getent passwd' or anything, everything
 works perfectly. The only time I have trouble is when I'm logging in via
 SSH..then it gets really weird.
 
 1.) When I log in as a user in LDAP only and give the incorrect password
 first and then supply the correct password, everything works fine. If the
 user is in wheel, I can sudo.
 2.) When I log in as the same user and give only the correct password the
 first time, it hangs for roughly 45 seconds and then lets me in. Even though
 this user is in wheel, it says that the user is not in the sudoers file.
 
 Here are the log messages I get in auth.log that correspond to the events
 above:
 
 sshd[54031]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user uid=user..(cut)...
 (Invalid credentials) # This is the incorrect pw
 sshd[54029]: error: PAM: authentication error for user from localhost
 #Incorrect pw
 sshd[54032]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is unavailable
 # correct pw
 sshd[54029]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost port
 32935 ssh2 #correct pw
 
 When I enter just the right password, the first time, I get this in the log:
 
 sshd[54047]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost port
 51972 ssh2
 sshd[54050]: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP server
 
 Again, when SSL/TLS are disabled, I get normal log output and none of the
 weird stuff above..
 
 I turned on debugging in nss_ldap.conf and found that each time I gave only
 the correct password (corresponding with the 45 second hang) I found this in
 the debug output:
 
 ...bunch of normal looking output...
 ldap_chkResponseList ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
 ldap_chkResponseList returns ld 0x801b31480 NULL
 ldap_int_select
 read1msg: ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
 ber_get_next
 TLS trace: SSL3 alert write:fatal:bad record mac --- what is the cause of
 this?
 ldap_free_connection 1 0
 ldap_free_connection: actually freed
 ldap_err2string
 ldap_result ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5
 wait4msg ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 (timeout 3000 usec)
 wait4msg continue ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
 ** ld 0x801b31480 Connections:
 ** ld 0x801b31480 Outstanding Requests:
Empty
   ld 0x801b31480 request count 0 (abandoned 0)
 ** ld 0x801b31480 Response Queue:
Empty
 
 I get the above regardless of whether I'm using start_tls or ssl.
 
 If you have any insight, it'd be really useful. I've spent tons of time
 scouring lists for help and haven't found anything yet..

I don't have any more insight into the problem other than to say we've
had some similar issues in our environment. Initial password-based
logins do not have groups initialized, but SSH key logins and /bin/login
logins have groups initialized successfully.

We were piloting nscd on some of our 7.0 boxes. It turns out that
enabling nscd was a successful workaround. We have since enabled it on
the rest of our 7.0 installations.

Anyone out there have ideas?

-- 
Chris Cowart
Network Technical Lead
Network  Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
UC Berkeley


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Acroread plugin problem...

2009-02-10 Thread Peter Harrison
I had the firefox plugin for acroread8 working perfectly until I ran a 
portupgrade recently. I ended up running portupgrade -af so alot of stuff got 
touched that might not otherwise.

Now I'm getting the following message when I open firefox:

LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/usr/home/peter/.mozilla/plugins/nppdf.so [Shared object libc.so.6 not found, 
required by nppdf.so]

and the plugin doesn't work.

Standalone, acroread still works fine.

Any ideas what I'm missing?

This is on:

FreeBSD laptop.piggybox 7.1-STABLE FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE #11: Sat Jan 17 17:08:22 
GMT 2009 r...@laptop.piggybox:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

with:

linux-atk-1.9.1_1   Accessibility Toolkit, Linux/i386 binary
linux-cairo-1.0.2   Linux cairo binary
linux-expat-1.95.8  Linux/i386 binary port of Expat XML-parsing library
linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_7 Linux/i386 binary of Fontconfig
linux-gtk2-2.6.10_1 GTK+ library, version 2.X, Linux binary
linux-hicolor-icon-theme-0.5_1 A high-color icon theme shell from the 
FreeDesktop project
linux-jpeg-6b.34RPM of the JPEG lib
linux-nvu-1.0_1 A complete Web Authoring System
linux-pango-1.10.2_1 Linux pango binary
linux-png-1.2.8_2   RPM of the PNG lib
linux-realplayer-10.0.9.809.20070726 Linux RealPlayer 10 from RealNetworks
linux-scim-gtk-fc4-1.4.4 Smart Common Input Method platform, gtk module, Linux 
binar
linux-scim-libs-fc4-1.4.4_1 Smart Common Input Method platform, library part, 
Linux bin
linux-tiff-3.7.1TIFF library, Linux/i386 binary
linux-xorg-libs-6.8.2_5 Xorg libraries, linux binaries
linux_base-fc-4_14  Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64)
linux_dri-7.0   Binary Linux DRI libraries for 3D hardware acceleration of 
linuxdoc-1.1_1  The Linuxdoc SGML DTD

Any thoughts on how I can get this working again?

TIA.


Peter Harrison.
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Localized keyboard under Xorg 7.4...

2009-02-10 Thread Peter Harrison
So I've run the Xorg update. I've come across a number of problems (the biggest 
of which was needed to rebuilt xfce and losing all my settings).

The one I'm having real difficulty with at the moment is using a UK keyboard 
layout. Previously I had this line in my xorg.conf under the Keyboard 
InputDevice section:

Option  XkbLayout gb

This doesn't work any more, so I followed the advice in this post:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=140908+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090208.freebsd-questions

to put the relevant entry in /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi

Still no joy. I get these lines in Xorg.0.log:

(II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
(II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.3.2
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
(**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
(**) Option Protocol standard
(**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
(**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
(**) Option XkbRules xorg
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: us

I'm getting around it at the moment by getting xfce to run this at startup:

setxkbmap gb

But that's hardly an ideal solution. Can anyone suggest a better one?

TIA.


Peter Harrison.


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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

-Chris

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Constantin Stalzer
constantinstal...@web.de wrote:
 Hello, can you please remove all search results with the name Constantin 
 Stalzer immediately, so that my name will not be seen on google.
  thanks in advance...pleasseee

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread william
I am curious to see if the idea is entertained even.



--Original Message--
From: Chris Knight
Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Feb 10, 2009 16:29
Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

-Chris

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Constantin Stalzer
constantinstal...@web.de wrote:
 Hello, can you please remove all search results with the name Constantin 
 Stalzer immediately, so that my name will not be seen on google.
  thanks in advance...pleasseee

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Re: Upgrade to 7.1 and upgrade of ports broke Xorg

2009-02-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, February 10, 2009 13:35:50 -0600 Henrik Hudson 
li...@rhavenn.net wrote:




On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Paul Schmehl wrote:


If anyone spots something that would solve this problem, I'd appreciate
your pointing it out to me.  I'm far from an expert on X, so I could
easily be missing something simple.


I didn't spot anything, but you could try switching to a VESA driver
and seeing if the issue still persists. If not, then it's a radeon
driver issue and you can proceed from there.



Doh!  Definitely a radeon driver problem.  Thanks.

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pkg_delete core dumping on 7.1

2009-02-10 Thread Ross Penner
hey list,

I've recently upgraded my machine (FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE) and pkg_delete
is segfaulting and dumping it's core when trying to deinstall
packages. What makes it more bizzare is that it had worked right after
the upgrade and now it doesn't.

I know there's probably more information I could give to help but I'm
enough of a novice to not know what that is. Thanks for any
suggestions on how to proceed.
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Re: Localized keyboard under Xorg 7.4...

2009-02-10 Thread Matt
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Peter Harrison
peter.piggy...@virgin.net wrote:
 So I've run the Xorg update. I've come across a number of problems (the 
 biggest of which was needed to rebuilt xfce and losing all my settings).

 The one I'm having real difficulty with at the moment is using a UK keyboard 
 layout. Previously I had this line in my xorg.conf under the Keyboard 
 InputDevice section:

 Option  XkbLayout gb

 This doesn't work any more, so I followed the advice in this post:

 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=140908+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090208.freebsd-questions

 to put the relevant entry in /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy/x11-input.fdi

 Still no joy. I get these lines in Xorg.0.log:

 (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so
 (II) Module kbd: vendor=X.Org Foundation
compiled for 1.5.3, module version = 1.3.2
Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.1
 (**) AT Keyboard: always reports core events
 (**) Option Protocol standard
 (**) AT Keyboard: Protocol: standard
 (**) Option AutoRepeat 500 30
 (**) Option XkbRules xorg
 (**) AT Keyboard: XkbRules: xorg
 (**) Option XkbModel pc105
 (**) AT Keyboard: XkbModel: pc105
 (**) Option XkbLayout us
 (**) AT Keyboard: XkbLayout: us

 I'm getting around it at the moment by getting xfce to run this at startup:

 setxkbmap gb

 But that's hardly an ideal solution. Can anyone suggest a better one?

Have you tried adding the:

Option AutoAddDevices off
Option AutoEnableDevices off

settings in the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf?  That should disable
the hal/dbus detections and use just the settings you have spelled out
in xorg.conf (which shouldn't be too much of an issue if you already
had a fully configured xorg.conf before the upgrade to 7.4).

Matt

 TIA.


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Re: Playing audio CDs

2009-02-10 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:39:17 -0600, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote:
 One thing that I don't think I've read but personally encountered.  
 When using cdcontrol, it seems to tell the cd-rom drive to play the 
 disc so it's not really done in software.  If the audio cable from the 
 cd-rom drive is not connected to the motherboard you won't get sound.  
 For the vast majority of users this is a non-issue, but it be confusing 
 to figure out.

Well, interesting you mentioned this. I have this audio cable installed
and after cdcontrol told the drive to play the audio CD, it is on the
CD audio channel of the sound card (and the mixer channel CD, of course).
I'm not sure how this is handled via the ATA cable where the CD drive
usually is connected, or the SATA calbe, if it's a newer drive. Or, to
make it more complicated, when the drive is a SCSI cable; I don't think
SCSI transmits audio data via the SCSI cable...

At least the drive should show the typical playing activity which can
be checked using a headphone on the drive's front connector (if it has
one).



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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

 Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
to be insulting.

You might explain to the person, who apparently does not understand
the net, that it would be impossible to remove all references with
his name because within minutes of it being posted to the list
it is mirrored and archived in many many places over which the list
manager has no control - in fact does not even know about.  One example 
of those is Google.  FreeBSD has no control over what Google stores.
But, there are many other sites that input this stuff, mung it according
to their interests and make it available on the net.

jerry


 
 -Chris
 
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Constantin Stalzer
 constantinstal...@web.de wrote:
  Hello, can you please remove all search results with the name Constantin 
  Stalzer immediately, so that my name will not be seen on google.
   thanks in advance...pleasseee
 
  Thanks, Greeetz
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Weird problem with firefox

2009-02-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
I just uninstalled Firefox v. 2.0.0.20 and then installed firefox v. 3.0.5. 
Which shows one firefox binary; firefox3.  Yet, when I start firefox and click 
on Help/About, it shows I'm running 2.0.0.20.  WTF?


Anyone have a sensible explanation for this?

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

 Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
to be insulting.

You might explain to the person, who apparently does not understand
the net, that it would be impossible to remove all references with
his name because within minutes of it being posted to the list
it is mirrored and archived in many many places over which the list
manager has no control - in fact does not even know about.  One example 
of those is Google.  FreeBSD has no control over what Google stores.
But, there are many other sites that input this stuff, mung it according
to their interests and make it available on the net.

Many years ago we hosted the original CDDB database (identifies
music CDs), and I got at least one complaint from somebody whose
name appeared in a song title saying to remove it or else.

I have had people ask to remove things from the Mailman archives
of lists we host, who backed off when I asked for my normal
hourly rate to (a) figure out how pipermail works, and (b) deal
with removing their messages.  I added that there are hundreds of
people receiving these messages around the world who may have
them archived as well, not to mention google.  I never heard from
them again.

Bill
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
 
  Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
 
 You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
 to be insulting.
 
 You might explain to the person, who apparently does not understand
 the net, that it would be impossible to remove all references with
 his name because within minutes of it being posted to the list
 it is mirrored and archived in many many places over which the list
 manager has no control - in fact does not even know about.  One example
 of those is Google.  FreeBSD has no control over what Google stores.
 But, there are many other sites that input this stuff, mung it according
 to their interests and make it available on the net.

 Many years ago we hosted the original CDDB database (identifies
 music CDs), and I got at least one complaint from somebody whose
 name appeared in a song title saying to remove it or else.

 I have had people ask to remove things from the Mailman archives
 of lists we host, who backed off when I asked for my normal
 hourly rate to (a) figure out how pipermail works, and (b) deal
 with removing their messages.  I added that there are hundreds of
 people receiving these messages around the world who may have
 them archived as well, not to mention google.  I never heard from
 them again.

 Bill

snip

i'm not sure why being seen in google is a bad thing. unless you're Mark
Rich or something. If you're overly concerned, maybe you could just contact
google and they would be willing to suit you for a small fee, perhaps your
soul.

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RE: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

2009-02-10 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] 
Sent: 10 February 2009 17:22
To: Graeme Dargie
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

Graeme Dargie a écrit :
 
 -Original Message-
 From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] 
 Sent: 06 February 2009 16:47
 To: Graeme Dargie
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1
 
 Graeme Dargie a écrit :
 -Original Message-
 From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] 
 Sent: 04 February 2009 21:55
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

 FreeBSD a écrit :
 Graeme Dargie a écrit :
 If you do a dmesg are you also showing a watchdog time out for the nic ?

 I only ask as I am having the exact same problem with the exact same 
 card and I have yet to find a solution, if I come across something I 
 will let you know.

 Regards
 Graeme
 Not a single time...sorry.

 -Original Message-
 From: FreeBSD [mailto:free...@optiksecurite.com] Sent: 26 January 2009 
 18:58
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Link UP/DOWN problem with re0 on FreeBSD 7.1

 FreeBSD a écrit :
 Hi everyone,

 Just to put you in context, I applied the following patch to make the 
 card available:

 SVN rev 186389 on 2008-12-22 00:46:22Z by yongari

 Since we don't request reset for rlphy(4), the link state 'UP'
 event from mii(4) may not be delivered if valid link was already
 established. To address the issue, check current link state after
 driving MII_TICK. This should fix a regression introduced in
 r185753 on fast ethernet controllers.

 ---

 I don't have any issue related to that anymore. The problem is that I 
 get link UP/DOWN a few times per hour on 3 identical machines that I 
 dumped/restored. They are all pluged in a Cisco switch that works 
 fine for every other PCs.

 Jan 26 06:09:15 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
 Jan 26 06:09:17 term005 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP

 I tried to switch cables, but I got the same result.

 There is the pciconf -lv output:

 r...@pci0:3:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x02831028 chip=0x816810ec 
 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
 device = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet

 There is the output of vmstat -i:

 interrupt  total   rate
 irq18: re0 ehci0++ 63766  0
 irq19: atapci0277001  3
 cpu0: timer156068748   1961
 Total  156409515   1966

 Could it be related to the fact that there is re0 and ehci0++ on the 
 same IRQ?

 Thank you for your help,

 Martin
 I just tried with a brand new Dell 2708 switch and the problem is 
 still there. I just confirmed that the UP/DOWN occurs every 10 minutes 
 (+- a few seconds).

 Thanks again,

 Martin

 Just to follow-up on my own problem...

 I tried to disable some options of the card with :
 ifconfig re0 -rxcsum -txcsum -tso -lro -vlanhwtag

 but nothing as changed. I just tried to download a big file (FreeBSD 
 7.1-REL DVD iso in fact) to see if the deconnection occurs even during a 
 transfer. The DVD downloaded successfully and I verified that the MD5 
 are OK. BUT, /var/log/messages continue to tell me that:
 Feb  4 16:09:29 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
 Feb  4 16:19:26 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN
 Feb  4 16:19:30 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to UP
 Feb  4 16:19:32 term003 kernel: re0: link state changed to DOWN

 during the transfer (which worked OK). I don't know if that can help 
 someone to help me ;)

 Thanks,

 Martin

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 I have a solution to this well a work around.

 Add -tso to the relevant line in /etc/rc.conf

 ifconfig_re0=inet 192.168.1.103  netmask 255.255.255.0 -tso

 Adding -tso stops the link up / link down problem. Now I am understand that 
 this may increase cpu if the traffic on the nic is high. I am sure some one 
 the list will know of any other implications this may have.

 It is a known problem and I site I read the bug had been submitted so 
 hopefully it wont exist in 8.0 

 Regards

 Graeme

 
 As I stated in my last post, I tried to disable a few options, including 
 TSO. Still, I gived a try to your workaround. I now have this line in 
 rc.conf:
 ifconfig_re0=DHCP -tso
 
 but I have the same problem (it disconnect every 10 minutes and ask for 
 an IP to the DHCP).
 
 Thanks for your suggestion,
 
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

 Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.

 You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
 to be insulting.

I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.

Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
in case you think I was trying to be funny.

-Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
 
  Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
 
  You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
  to be insulting.
 
 I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
 
 Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
 in case you think I was trying to be funny.

To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
It is offensive and small.

jerry


 
 -Chris
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Re: Weird problem with firefox

2009-02-10 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, February 10, 2009 17:49:08 -0600 Paul Schmehl 
pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com wrote:




I just uninstalled Firefox v. 2.0.0.20 and then installed firefox v. 3.0.5.
Which shows one firefox binary; firefox3.  Yet, when I start firefox and click
on Help/About, it shows I'm running 2.0.0.20.  WTF?

Anyone have a sensible explanation for this?



Never mind.  Rebooting fixed the problem.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
  
   Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
  
   You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
   to be insulting.
 
  I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
 
  Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
  in case you think I was trying to be funny.

 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

 jerry


 
  -Chris
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can't you jest about something with someone? you don' t have to be
offensive.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:52 PM, will...@futurecis.com wrote:

 Let the flaming begin

 Or continue..meh!

 --Original Message--
 From: michael copeland
 Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 To: Jerry McAllister
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Feb 10, 2009 19:50
 Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
 
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
  wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
   
Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
   
You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
to be insulting.
  
   I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
  
   Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
   in case you think I was trying to be funny.
 
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.
 
  jerry
 
 
  
   -Chris
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 can't you jest about something with someone? you don' t have to be
 offensive.

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no flaming here.

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Bridge setup at boot

2009-02-10 Thread Da Rock
I feel like a real newbie asking this one, but the answer is still
eluding me :(

I have a system where I'm separating my servers for distinction so I'm
running qemu.

I have a bridge setup which works occasionally, but I need it to work
100% of the time. I also need this to run at boot time, which is where
it seems to fall short (not to mention that on occasion even the re
driver fails to load- not sure if its hardware or software yet, but
appears to have no bearing on the bridge problem; I could still get an
ip address via dhcp when the bridge is not working).

My loader.conf looks like this:

snd_hda_load=YES
if_bridge_load=YES
if_tap_load=YES

My rc.conf looks like this:

cloned_interfaces=bridge0 tap0
autobridge_interface=bridge0
autbridge_bridge0=re0 tap0
ifconfig_re0=up
ifconfig_tap0=up
ifconfig_bridge0=DHCP

If I tell re0 to use DHCP as well, I can access the host, but not the
guest. If I run qemu in a script, the guest cannot get a DHCP address.

This seems to happen intermittently- one problem then the other. If the
bridge fails to get an ip from dhcp, I find re going down just after
bridge0 starts looking for an ip- re comes up again after that starts.
If bridge0 does get an ip, the tap0 will go down and qemu guest can't
get an ip.

I feel like I'm going round in circles now. Using rc.conf nothing
appears to be happening in order- things seem to be going up and down
when they feel like instead of when they should. I need this to be
stable, not a cross your fingers and toes, we're going in scenario-
which is what bridging appears to be like at startup. Manually I can get
it working off the bat, but I'm trying to get this working within the
framework provided.

For reference the sysctl.conf settings mentioned in some circles are
useless in 7.1- net.link.ether.bridge_cfg and
net.link.ether.bridge.enable aren't recognized.

Any help?

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

We are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my opinion that to
make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

Cheers,

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Chris Knight boh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.

 We are going to have to agree to disagree.  It is my opinion that to
 make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
 lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
 Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
 time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

 Cheers,

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and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread william
Let the flaming begin

Or continue..meh!

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To: Jerry McAllister
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Sent: Feb 10, 2009 19:50
Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
  
   Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
  
   You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
   to be insulting.
 
  I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
 
  Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
  in case you think I was trying to be funny.

 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

 jerry


 
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can't you jest about something with someone? you don' t have to be
offensive.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:

 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

-Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread william
Score 1 to Chris, nice come-back. Flame on!!

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Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:

 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

-Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.
 
 We are going to have to agree to disagree.  

I read in a posting recently by a very, very prominent and respected
member of the Internet community that agreeing to disagree is very
disrespectful.

In other words, you are accepting the fact that someone is wrong without
finding a solution.

Jerry made a very valid point. Jerry has made countless hundreds of
posts to this list, many of which are directed at helping the newcomer
settle in. _Any_ poking fun at someone whatsoever is unacceptable, and
that is non-disputable.

 It is my opinion that to
 make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
 lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
 Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
 time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

It is not a point of humour to those who do not know any better. A
softer, more gentle approach would be appropriate here.

Even if *you* think it is humorous, have you ever known anyone, or had
any children with any sort of anxiety issues? I'm sure you haven't, or
you wouldn't be arguing with Mr. McAllister, and you surely wouldn't be
defending your post.

Perhaps by have to agree to disagree means that you will rephrase a
response to the OP directly that explains the 'hows' and 'whys' of the
non-feasibility of the request...

Cheers,

Steve
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread freebsdemail
Removing the results from Google is simple, removing from ALL search engines 
however is difficult. Either way this is not FreeBSD's problem.

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:52:40 
To: michael copelandmichael.copel...@gmail.com; 
owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org; Jerry McAllisterjerr...@msu.edu
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer


Let the flaming begin

Or continue..meh!

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To: Jerry McAllister
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Feb 10, 2009 19:50
Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:

  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
   On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:29:34PM -0800, Chris Knight wrote:
  
   Damn, that is the funniest thing I have seen in years.
  
   You might try posting a helpful response instead of trying
   to be insulting.
 
  I wasn't trying to be insulting. I was trying to be funny.
 
  Apparently, you don't know the difference; which is in fact an insult
  in case you think I was trying to be funny.

 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

 jerry


 
  -Chris
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offensive.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 Chris Knight wrote:
  On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu
 wrote:
  To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
  It is offensive and small.
 
  We are going to have to agree to disagree.

 I read in a posting recently by a very, very prominent and respected
 member of the Internet community that agreeing to disagree is very
 disrespectful.

 In other words, you are accepting the fact that someone is wrong without
 finding a solution.

 Jerry made a very valid point. Jerry has made countless hundreds of
 posts to this list, many of which are directed at helping the newcomer
 settle in. _Any_ poking fun at someone whatsoever is unacceptable, and
 that is non-disputable.

  It is my opinion that to
  make fun of someone's _stupidity_ is offensive.  Stupidity, like the
  lack of a sense of humor, is a disability that can not be cured.
  Ignorance, which is easily cured, is something that we all suffer from
  time to time and is therefore a more universal point of humor.

 It is not a point of humour to those who do not know any better. A
 softer, more gentle approach would be appropriate here.

 Even if *you* think it is humorous, have you ever known anyone, or had
 any children with any sort of anxiety issues? I'm sure you haven't, or
 you wouldn't be arguing with Mr. McAllister, and you surely wouldn't be
 defending your post.

 Perhaps by have to agree to disagree means that you will rephrase a
 response to the OP directly that explains the 'hows' and 'whys' of the
 non-feasibility of the request...

 Cheers,

 Steve
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on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:

 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

A man who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise mane.

A man who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.

One of my favorite quotes, which is particularly apt today in
light of the ignorance being displayed in D.C. is:

 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after
 all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider
 to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to
 have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while
 remaining in this state of ignorance.  -- Murray N. Rothbard

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
michael copeland wrote:

 on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going

Either can I. It's a flame-war, and I became part of it (tsk).

I just so want this list to be a good place for newcomers as I once was,
that I'd rather try to keep the list clean, and very much dislike it
when someone tries to challenge the integrity of a very well respected,
long term member of the list.

This thread is done for me now. Bring back on the IPv6 questions

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
 michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?
 
 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
 understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

A man who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise mane.

A man who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.

 One of my favorite quotes, which is particularly apt today in
 light of the ignorance being displayed in D.C. is:

 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after
 all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider
 to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to
 have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while
 remaining in this state of ignorance.  -- Murray N. Rothbard

 Bill
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, michael copeland 
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.comwrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
 michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?
 
 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
 understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

A man who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise mane.

A man who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.

 One of my favorite quotes, which is particularly apt today in
 light of the ignorance being displayed in D.C. is:

 It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after
 all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider
 to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to
 have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while
 remaining in this state of ignorance.  -- Murray N. Rothbard

 Bill

 Bill, it is my firm belief, nee understanding that everyone in D.C is
ignorant or more factually, a criminal.
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 michael copeland wrote:

  on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going

 Either can I. It's a flame-war, and I became part of it (tsk).

 I just so want this list to be a good place for newcomers as I once was,
 that I'd rather try to keep the list clean, and very much dislike it
 when someone tries to challenge the integrity of a very well respected,
 long term member of the list.

 This thread is done for me now. Bring back on the IPv6 questions

 Steve

sure thing buddy.
why does ipv6 irritate the hell out of me? :-D
i guess its the really odd jump of having to remember the address schematic.
an on top of that, i breaks my software so bad that we're dropping some code
that has worked for 20 years. but hey, its an improvement right?


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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread prad
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:38:26 -0500
Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

 Jerry made a very valid point.

i think so too.

assuming that constantin was sincere in his request, a simple
explanation as to what the difficulties are would have sufficed. we can
personally and/or anonymously find such a thing humorous, but it is
probably best not to make mockery of this sort of thing publically.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread michael copeland
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:52 PM, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:38:26 -0500
 Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:

  Jerry made a very valid point.
 
 i think so too.

 assuming that constantin was sincere in his request, a simple
 explanation as to what the difficulties are would have sufficed. we can
 personally and/or anonymously find such a thing humorous, but it is
 probably best not to make mockery of this sort of thing publically.

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 hindsite=20/20
i agree now that i think about it.
but what about the ipv6?!

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 Chris Knight wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
 To make fun of someone's ignorance is not humorous.
 It is offensive and small.

 We are going to have to agree to disagree.

 I read in a posting recently by a very, very prominent and respected
 member of the Internet community that agreeing to disagree is very
 disrespectful.

 In other words, you are accepting the fact that someone is wrong without
 finding a solution.

That is an incredibly narrow minded and arrogant way of looking at
things.  Opinions are not facts, they are flavors of belief.,
variances of ethos, and aspects of personalities.   What you are
saying is that one opinion is right, and that all others are wrong;
and in my opinion that is bull excrement.

I clearly stated in my earlier post that It is my opinion, and if
your assertion is that my opinion is wrong and that yours is right
then you really need to see a priest about your god complex.  Forget a
shrink, you are long past that point.

-Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM,  will...@futurecis.com wrote:
 Score 1 to Chris, nice come-back. Flame on!!

It is not my intention to flame.  I am simply defending my right to
make a simple one-liner joke.

In my opinion, it is the people who have gone rabidly on the offensive
who are trying to incite a flame war.

You asked a joke question, and I gave you a joke answer.  It's all fun
and games until someone shouts HITLER!.

-Chris




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 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
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 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Bill Campbell free...@celestial.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009, Chris Knight wrote:
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:

 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?

Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 Every person is ignorant about far more things than they
 understand well, as is well put in the sayings:

So very true, which is why the Far Side is so funny:  because it could
be any of us.  I fondly remember the Midfield School for the Gifted
cartoon every time I push on a pull door.  :)

-Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread prad
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:06:20 -0800
Chris Knight boh...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is not my intention to flame. 

that is quite clear and you should not be accused of doing so.

 I am simply defending my right to
 make a simple one-liner joke.
 
there is no such right.
'the quality of humor is not strained'

 You asked a joke question, and I gave you a joke answer.  It's all fun
 and games until someone shouts HITLER!.

you have just done so and therefore it is no longer fun and games.

time to stop.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 20:49 -0500, michael copeland wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote:
 
  michael copeland wrote:
 
   on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going
 
  Either can I. It's a flame-war, and I became part of it (tsk).
 
  I just so want this list to be a good place for newcomers as I once was,
  that I'd rather try to keep the list clean, and very much dislike it
  when someone tries to challenge the integrity of a very well respected,
  long term member of the list.
 
  This thread is done for me now. Bring back on the IPv6 questions
 
  Steve
 
 sure thing buddy.
 why does ipv6 irritate the hell out of me? :-D
 i guess its the really odd jump of having to remember the address schematic.
 an on top of that, i breaks my software so bad that we're dropping some code
 that has worked for 20 years. but hey, its an improvement right?
 
 

Would a bridge networking question lighten the mood? :P

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Constantin Stalzer
constantinstal...@web.de wrote:
 Hello, can you please remove all search results with the name Constantin 
 Stalzer immediately, so that my name will not be seen on google.
  thanks in advance...pleasseee

 Thanks, Greeetz

Dear Mr Stalzer,

  I am sorry to inform you that the very act of sending an email to
this list asking for the removal of your name from search results has,
in fact, sent the original posting to the top of the Google rankings
when searching for Constantin Stalzer.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Constantin+Stalzer%22hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialhs=MLkfilter=0

  At this point, the cat is out of the bag; as we say.  By sending an
email to this list, your request was not only sent to thousands if
individuals, but it was displayed on the pages of countless websites
where the content of this mailing list is redisplayed for public
access.  Those pages will also be indexed by Google over time, raising
the Google-Awareness of your name to even higher levels.  It would not
be absolutely impossible to reverse this process, but I fear it would
take an actual act of the Gods.

  Alas, I can offer no useful advice on how to remove Constantin
Stalzer from the search results, and I would be shocked if anyone
else could help either.  It is simply too late.  I am sorry.

-Chris
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trouble rebuilding kdelibs3.....

2009-02-10 Thread Gary Kline

Hi Guys,

I am trying to rebuild things-KDE [3] and got this from kdelibs3.


checking for libjpeg6b... no
checking for libjpeg... -ljpeg
checking for perl... /usr/local/bin/perl
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.3 and  4.0) (library
qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to k...@freebsd.org [maintainer] and attach the
/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/config.log including the
output
of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to
provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

r...@tao:/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10# tail -20 config.log
#define kde_socklen_t socklen_t
#define ksize_t socklen_t
#define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1
#define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
#define HAVE_RES_INIT 1
#define HAVE_RES_INIT_PROTO 1
#define SIZEOF_INT 4
#define SIZEOF_SHORT 2
#define SIZEOF_LONG 4
#define SIZEOF_CHAR_P 4
#define SIZEOF_SIZE_T 4
#define SIZEOF_UNSIGNED_LONG 4
#define HAVE_VSNPRINTF 1
#define HAVE_SNPRINTF 1
#define HAVE_LIBZ 1
#define HAVE_LIBPNG 1
#define HAVE_LIBJPEG 1
#define HAVE_LIBPTHREAD 1

configure: exit 1


Anybody have a clue?

gary



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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread prad
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:31:42 -0800
Chris Knight boh...@gmail.com wrote:

 By sending an
 email to this list, your request was not only sent to thousands if
 individuals, but it was displayed on the pages of countless websites
 where the content of this mailing list is redisplayed for public
 access.  Those pages will also be indexed by Google over time, raising
 the Google-Awareness of your name to even higher levels. 

i find this to be a good response. 

i hadn't thought of the 'chain-reaction' effects of posting to a list
which is well explained in the above. 

i was also surprised to see that his name comes up at the top of a
google search (already!!) though it doesn't show up at all in my clusty
or yahoo or excite search at all. anyone know why? possibly, google does
things much faster??

 It would not
 be absolutely impossible to reverse this process

this is an interesting thing to think about actually. some people try
very hard to get high rankings on google, but fail miserably. i looked
into websearch optimization some time ago and recall that you can do
'naughty' things like provide an excessive number of irrelevant keywords
and get penalized - not sure if something like that could be applied
here.

-- 
In friendship,
prad

  ... with you on your journey
Towards Freedom
http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website)
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Re: trouble rebuilding kdelibs3.....

2009-02-10 Thread Warren Liddell

Gary Kline wrote:

Hi Guys,

I am trying to rebuild things-KDE [3] and got this from kdelibs3.


checking for libjpeg6b... no
checking for libjpeg... -ljpeg
checking for perl... /usr/local/bin/perl
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.3 and  4.0) (library
qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support!
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to k...@freebsd.org [maintainer] and attach the
/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/config.log including the
output
of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to
provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

r...@tao:/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10# tail -20 config.log
#define kde_socklen_t socklen_t
#define ksize_t socklen_t
#define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1
#define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
#define HAVE_RES_INIT 1
#define HAVE_RES_INIT_PROTO 1
#define SIZEOF_INT 4
#define SIZEOF_SHORT 2
#define SIZEOF_LONG 4
#define SIZEOF_CHAR_P 4
#define SIZEOF_SIZE_T 4
#define SIZEOF_UNSIGNED_LONG 4
#define HAVE_VSNPRINTF 1
#define HAVE_SNPRINTF 1
#define HAVE_LIBZ 1
#define HAVE_LIBPNG 1
#define HAVE_LIBJPEG 1
#define HAVE_LIBPTHREAD 1

configure: exit 1


Anybody have a clue?

gary

  
If i had to have a guess, reading the error msg, there is a problem with 
your QT library, now i wouldnt say im an expert by any means, but a 
re-install of QT or it's libraries may fix the problem.

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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Eitan Adler
 
 You asked a joke question, and I gave you a joke answer.  It's all fun
 and games until someone shouts HITLER!.
This thread is getting close to fulfilling Godwin's Law.
Anyway the signal to noise ratio is decreasing rapidly with this thread.
   Could everyone please stop (don't reply on-list)
 
 -Chris
 
 
 
 --Original Message--
 From: Chris Knight
 Sender: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
 To: michael copeland
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Feb 10, 2009 20:35
 Subject: Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, michael copeland
 michael.copel...@gmail.com wrote:
 and if someone is ignorant of their stupidity?
 Then Gary Larson puts them in a Far Side Comic.  :)

 -Chris
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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 18:50 -0800, prad wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:31:42 -0800
 Chris Knight boh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  By sending an
  email to this list, your request was not only sent to thousands if
  individuals, but it was displayed on the pages of countless websites
  where the content of this mailing list is redisplayed for public
  access.  Those pages will also be indexed by Google over time, raising
  the Google-Awareness of your name to even higher levels. 
 
 i find this to be a good response. 
 
 i hadn't thought of the 'chain-reaction' effects of posting to a list
 which is well explained in the above. 
 
 i was also surprised to see that his name comes up at the top of a
 google search (already!!) though it doesn't show up at all in my clusty
 or yahoo or excite search at all. anyone know why? possibly, google does
 things much faster??
 
  It would not
  be absolutely impossible to reverse this process
 
 this is an interesting thing to think about actually. some people try
 very hard to get high rankings on google, but fail miserably. i looked
 into websearch optimization some time ago and recall that you can do
 'naughty' things like provide an excessive number of irrelevant keywords
 and get penalized - not sure if something like that could be applied
 here.
 

Lists and their webpost (nabble and whatever) counterparts will ensure
that the particular phrase, name, whatever gets stored in the google
webcrawler from many different areas which raises awareness of the
phrase, ergo top of the list in searching.

Its not how many times a phrase appears, its how many links relating to
the phrase there are. Thats why its hard work- you need to get others to
link to your site and the keyword. Thats what google sell in the google
ads system: links on other (related) sites.

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Re: please remove all search results with name XXXX XXXXX

2009-02-10 Thread Jon Radel


Steve Bertrand wrote:

michael copeland wrote:


on a side note, i can't believe this has kept going


Either can I. It's a flame-war, and I became part of it (tsk).

I just so want this list to be a good place for newcomers as I once was,
that I'd rather try to keep the list clean, and very much dislike it
when someone tries to challenge the integrity of a very well respected,
long term member of the list.


Oh, splendidly well done, all.  You've now gone on long enough for the 
first page of the OP's google results to eventually get replaced by a 
long flame fest as to whether he's an idiot or just ignorant.  Most 
excellent solution to the problem.


By the way, attempting to actually explain to people why these things 
aren't as simple as they might appear can be dangerous.  Those of us who 
tried it a couple of months back on a BSD mailing list were turned over 
to the police for stalking by the OP, who insisted that we and our 
associates were in a conspiracy to not remove all mention of her from 
google that displeased her.  I don't think she ever quite caught on that 
the more mail she sent to an archived, public list, the more hits that 
she didn't like would show up.


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Re: please remove all search results with name Constantin Stalzer

2009-02-10 Thread Chris Knight
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:50 PM, prad p...@towardsfreedom.com wrote:

 this is an interesting thing to think about actually. some people try
 very hard to get high rankings on google, but fail miserably. i looked
 into websearch optimization some time ago and recall that you can do
 'naughty' things like provide an excessive number of irrelevant keywords
 and get penalized - not sure if something like that could be applied
 here.

Google must be watching...  When I originally posted that Google link,
this thread was the top item in the search results.  Now it is nearly
entirely purged from the results.  I am impressed by whatever Internet
Gods have accomplished this task.

-Chris
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Re: Bridge setup at boot

2009-02-10 Thread Steve Bertrand
Da Rock wrote:
 I feel like a real newbie asking this one, but the answer is still
 eluding me :(
 
 I have a system where I'm separating my servers for distinction so I'm
 running qemu.
 
 I have a bridge setup which works occasionally, but I need it to work
 100% of the time. I also need this to run at boot time, which is where
 it seems to fall short (not to mention that on occasion even the re
 driver fails to load- not sure if its hardware or software yet, but
 appears to have no bearing on the bridge problem; I could still get an
 ip address via dhcp when the bridge is not working).
 
 My loader.conf looks like this:
 
 snd_hda_load=YES
 if_bridge_load=YES
 if_tap_load=YES
 
 My rc.conf looks like this:
 
 cloned_interfaces=bridge0 tap0
 autobridge_interface=bridge0
 autbridge_bridge0=re0 tap0
 ifconfig_re0=up
 ifconfig_tap0=up
 ifconfig_bridge0=DHCP
 
 If I tell re0 to use DHCP as well, I can access the host, but not the
 guest. If I run qemu in a script, the guest cannot get a DHCP address.
 
 This seems to happen intermittently- one problem then the other. If the
 bridge fails to get an ip from dhcp, I find re going down just after
 bridge0 starts looking for an ip- re comes up again after that starts.
 If bridge0 does get an ip, the tap0 will go down and qemu guest can't
 get an ip.
 
 I feel like I'm going round in circles now. Using rc.conf nothing
 appears to be happening in order- things seem to be going up and down
 when they feel like instead of when they should. I need this to be
 stable, not a cross your fingers and toes, we're going in scenario-
 which is what bridging appears to be like at startup. Manually I can get
 it working off the bat, but I'm trying to get this working within the
 framework provided.
 
 For reference the sysctl.conf settings mentioned in some circles are
 useless in 7.1- net.link.ether.bridge_cfg and
 net.link.ether.bridge.enable aren't recognized.

Can you stabilize the bridge at boot, without any other software
starting up?

If not, does re0 get set up consistently with the same config with a
basic setup?

I had similar issues a while back (pre 7.1) in which sometimes 're'
devices didn't start up at the proper speed/duplex. Every once in a
while, it would show up at 10 or 100 half, when it should have been auto
set at full 100 or 1000. If I forced proper speed/duplex, other outside
programs began to work properly.

However, I haven't witnessed those issues since 7.1


Steve
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Re: Bridge setup at boot

2009-02-10 Thread Da Rock
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 23:10 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
 Da Rock wrote:
  I feel like a real newbie asking this one, but the answer is still
  eluding me :(
  
  I have a system where I'm separating my servers for distinction so I'm
  running qemu.
  
  I have a bridge setup which works occasionally, but I need it to work
  100% of the time. I also need this to run at boot time, which is where
  it seems to fall short (not to mention that on occasion even the re
  driver fails to load- not sure if its hardware or software yet, but
  appears to have no bearing on the bridge problem; I could still get an
  ip address via dhcp when the bridge is not working).
  
  My loader.conf looks like this:
  
  snd_hda_load=YES
  if_bridge_load=YES
  if_tap_load=YES
  
  My rc.conf looks like this:
  
  cloned_interfaces=bridge0 tap0
  autobridge_interface=bridge0
  autbridge_bridge0=re0 tap0
  ifconfig_re0=up
  ifconfig_tap0=up
  ifconfig_bridge0=DHCP
  
  If I tell re0 to use DHCP as well, I can access the host, but not the
  guest. If I run qemu in a script, the guest cannot get a DHCP address.
  
  This seems to happen intermittently- one problem then the other. If the
  bridge fails to get an ip from dhcp, I find re going down just after
  bridge0 starts looking for an ip- re comes up again after that starts.
  If bridge0 does get an ip, the tap0 will go down and qemu guest can't
  get an ip.
  
  I feel like I'm going round in circles now. Using rc.conf nothing
  appears to be happening in order- things seem to be going up and down
  when they feel like instead of when they should. I need this to be
  stable, not a cross your fingers and toes, we're going in scenario-
  which is what bridging appears to be like at startup. Manually I can get
  it working off the bat, but I'm trying to get this working within the
  framework provided.
  
  For reference the sysctl.conf settings mentioned in some circles are
  useless in 7.1- net.link.ether.bridge_cfg and
  net.link.ether.bridge.enable aren't recognized.
 
 Can you stabilize the bridge at boot, without any other software
 starting up?
 

The short answer is no. The usual problem here is re0 goes down just
after bridge0 goes looking for an ip. The other times are a mix of tap0
going down or some other gremlin I haven't been able to find yet.

 If not, does re0 get set up consistently with the same config with a
 basic setup?
 

It can, but that would depend on whether the driver picks it up during
boot. If the driver comes back with an error then re0 doesn't exist for
the rc.conf, if re0 does exist it usually sets up and runs ok during the
entire system up time (as far as I'm aware- I'm accessing the system
usually through ssh, I haven't seen anything strange in the logs, so ?).

 I had similar issues a while back (pre 7.1) in which sometimes 're'
 devices didn't start up at the proper speed/duplex. Every once in a
 while, it would show up at 10 or 100 half, when it should have been auto
 set at full 100 or 1000. If I forced proper speed/duplex, other outside
 programs began to work properly.
 
 However, I haven't witnessed those issues since 7.1

I didn't know about that, but given the problems I'm having I'm starting
to wonder if they could be a root cause of the problem here.

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Re: mysqld out of memory

2009-02-10 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 07:58:31 Ivan Voras wrote:
 Valentin Bud wrote:
  I noticed that it is already at 1GB. Now my problem is how can i avoid
  this in the future because
  on that production server mysql is crucial or in case it happens how ca I
  be the first to know
  of that problem?

[snip]

 Another thing is that mysql shouldn't take infinite amounts of memory to
 work. You need to configure entries in my.cnf to match your limits and
 maxdsiz (in steady state + estimated spikes).

More specifically:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-April/173350.html

Use -eSHOW STATUS LIKE 'Max_used_connections' to get an indication of the 
number of connections you're seeing. Calculate your memory usage with that 
value, then see if it goes above memory limits.
Then try adjusting the key_buffer_size since it's globally allocated.

Note that this requires tuning. A lower key_buffer_size can mean that queries 
take longer, which in turn will increase your memory usage.

Things are more complicated with InnoDb.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/innodb-parameters.html
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Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules
and never get to the software part.
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Re: nss_ldap SSL/TLS problems..

2009-02-10 Thread Arjun Singh
Thanks for the advice. I tried to see if I could get nscd to solve anything,
but it seems to just hide the problem, and not completely. With nscd
enabled, the first login fails. After that, it's fine..

I get the following in auth.log corresponding with the failed first login
(with the correct pw):

Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server
- Server is unavailable
Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: fatal: login_get_lastlog: Cannot find
account for uid 1
Feb 10 22:03:23 new-hkn sshd[59371]: syslogin_perform_logout: logout()
returned an error


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Chris Cowart
ccow...@rescomp.berkeley.eduwrote:

 Arjun Singh wrote:
  I'm trying to set up an ldap server on FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE.
 
  I installed all of the latest versions of openldap24-server,
  openldap24-client, nss_ldap, and pam_ldap.
 
  When I do any sort of ldapsearch or 'getent passwd' or anything,
 everything
  works perfectly. The only time I have trouble is when I'm logging in via
  SSH..then it gets really weird.
 
  1.) When I log in as a user in LDAP only and give the incorrect password
  first and then supply the correct password, everything works fine. If the
  user is in wheel, I can sudo.
  2.) When I log in as the same user and give only the correct password the
  first time, it hangs for roughly 45 seconds and then lets me in. Even
 though
  this user is in wheel, it says that the user is not in the sudoers file.
 
  Here are the log messages I get in auth.log that correspond to the events
  above:
 
  sshd[54031]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user uid=user..(cut)...
  (Invalid credentials) # This is the incorrect pw
  sshd[54029]: error: PAM: authentication error for user from localhost
  #Incorrect pw
  sshd[54032]: nss_ldap: could not search LDAP server - Server is
 unavailable
  # correct pw
  sshd[54029]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost
 port
  32935 ssh2 #correct pw
 
  When I enter just the right password, the first time, I get this in the
 log:
 
  sshd[54047]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for user from localhost
 port
  51972 ssh2
  sshd[54050]: nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP
 server
 
  Again, when SSL/TLS are disabled, I get normal log output and none of the
  weird stuff above..
 
  I turned on debugging in nss_ldap.conf and found that each time I gave
 only
  the correct password (corresponding with the 45 second hang) I found this
 in
  the debug output:
 
  ...bunch of normal looking output...
  ldap_chkResponseList ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
  ldap_chkResponseList returns ld 0x801b31480 NULL
  ldap_int_select
  read1msg: ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
  ber_get_next
  TLS trace: SSL3 alert write:fatal:bad record mac --- what is the cause
 of
  this?
  ldap_free_connection 1 0
  ldap_free_connection: actually freed
  ldap_err2string
  ldap_result ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5
  wait4msg ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 (timeout 3000 usec)
  wait4msg continue ld 0x801b31480 msgid 5 all 0
  ** ld 0x801b31480 Connections:
  ** ld 0x801b31480 Outstanding Requests:
 Empty
ld 0x801b31480 request count 0 (abandoned 0)
  ** ld 0x801b31480 Response Queue:
 Empty
 
  I get the above regardless of whether I'm using start_tls or ssl.
 
  If you have any insight, it'd be really useful. I've spent tons of time
  scouring lists for help and haven't found anything yet..

 I don't have any more insight into the problem other than to say we've
 had some similar issues in our environment. Initial password-based
 logins do not have groups initialized, but SSH key logins and /bin/login
 logins have groups initialized successfully.

 We were piloting nscd on some of our 7.0 boxes. It turns out that
 enabling nscd was a successful workaround. We have since enabled it on
 the rest of our 7.0 installations.

 Anyone out there have ideas?

 --
 Chris Cowart
 Network Technical Lead
 Network  Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT
 UC Berkeley

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Re: Slow DNS (and host: connection timed out)

2009-02-10 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 03:09:54 David Naylor wrote:
 On Tuesday 10 February 2009 09:33:36 Mel wrote:
  On Thursday 05 February 2009 22:55:56 David Naylor wrote:
   Hi,
  
   My ISP is using a WinGate DNS but resolving host names often takes a
   long time.  The problem is also present in Konqueror (3  4) and
   Firefox.
  
   An example:
   # time host google.co.za
   google.co.za has address 66.249.93.104
   google.co.za has address 72.14.207.104
   google.co.za has address 64.233.161.104
   ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
   ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
 
  Do your own DNS. Your ISP chokes in  ('IPv6') look ups. If you're not
  allowed to, still run a local resolver with aggressive neg ttl caching.
 
  See the numerous tutorials on the web on how to run your own resolver.

 Well spotted.  You are right that the ISP is choking on , except it is
 returning SERVFAIL.  I already have a local named running and acts as a
 forwarder.  Unfortunately I have to use the ISP to resolve names (it is the
 only nameserver I have access to).

You cannot connect to an outside nameserver, due to ISP restrictions I take 
it?

 Google says bind won't cache SERVFAIL responces and I have no idea how to
 disable named from forwarding  requests.

Me neither. I battled with ISC about this before, but their position is that 
ISP nameservers and loadbalancers should 'get with the program'.
Not everyone has this luxury but if your ISP has any competition in your area, 
check them out.

I briefly looked into views but you don't seem to be able to select views 
based on RRs. Firewall isn't really an option either, since you'd have to 
inspect the UDP payload.

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Re: RTL8201 not explicitly in 7.1 supported hardware

2009-02-10 Thread Mel
On Thursday 05 February 2009 17:10:54 Len Conrad wrote:
 A client wants to buy some TigerDirect/VisionMan 1U's with this mobo:

 http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdetails.asp?model=P4M900%20MICRO%20775

 RTL8201 PHY Ethernet

 http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/hardware.html

 ... shows only RTL81xx

The RTL8201L should be supported since Apr 2002:

cvs annotate sys/dev/mii/miidevs:
...
1.18 (wpaul07-Apr-02): model REALTEK RTL8201L \
   0x0020 RTL8201L 10/100 media interface
...

Whether this is the exact card, you'd have to get a pciconf -lv and look for 
the 0x0020 model. You could always try freebsd-hardware list.
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Accessing the complete log (rlog)

2009-02-10 Thread Yann-Gaël Guéhéneuc

Dear FreeBSD,

With some colleagues, we would like to study the evolution of FreeBSD.
I would like to download the changelog file of all files/revisions of
FreeBSD, typically using the following commands:

export CVSROOT=:pserver:anon...@anoncvs.fr.freebsd.org:/home/ncvs
cvs login
(Password: anoncvs)
cvs rlog .  FreeBSD.cvs.changelog

However, when using this command I get the error:

cvs rlog: Logging .
cvs rlog: Logging CVSROOT
cvs [rlog aborted]: received abort signal
Assertion failed: (strstr (repository, /./) == NULL), function
do_recursion, file
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/cvs/../../../../contrib/cvs/src/recurse.c, line
643.

Is it possible that you CVS server does not support rlog because of
recursion? Do you think it could be possible to enable rlog?

Thank you very much in advance,
Yann

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Re: xorg and nvidia

2009-02-10 Thread Mel
On Monday 09 February 2009 02:51:04 Daniel Leal wrote:
 Hi everyone!

 I am trying to convince my girlfriend to use freebsd as a desktop in her
 (not so) old toshiba S2450-201 laptop. I use it in my toshiba A200
 laptop and it works fine.
 I just install it in her laptop with a 30GB disk I have... Installation
 was fine. This laptop as a nvidia geforce4 420 go graphics board with
 32MB.
 The setup of xorg.conf was made through Xorg -configure. I tested with
 startx and it worked. Then I installed the nvidia driver. I had to try
 all 3 driver versions and the only one that worked was
 nvidia-driver-71xx. Then reboot and then I run nvidia-xconfig. And
 startx... great, it worked! The nvidia logo appeared in the screen
 during xorg startup. Fine! Then I installed nvidia-settings. But when I
 try to run it it complains that it appear that I not using the NVIDIA X
 driver. But I am!!
 It also said that NV-CONTROL extension version 1.6 is too old and the
 minimum required version is 1.11.
 In my xorg.conf I have 1024x768 resolution, but xorg is with 800x600.
 I also dont have the VSR and HSR for this laptop. I just cant find it
 anywhere...

 Can someone help me with this please?

 Here is my xorg.conf:

 # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
 # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (r...@dinamite)  Sat Feb  7 22:24:54 WET
 2009

 Section ServerLayout
 Identifier X.org Configured
 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
 EndSection

 Section Files
 RgbPath /usr/local/share/X11/rgb
 ModulePath  /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/
 FontPath/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
 EndSection

 Section Module
 Load   dbe
 Load   extmod
 Load   glx
 Load   record
 Load   xtrap
 Load   freetype
 Load   type1
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard0
 Driver kbd
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse0
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol auto
 Option Device /dev/sysmouse
 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection

 Section Monitor
 Identifier Monitor0
 VendorName Monitor Vendor
 ModelName  Monitor Model
 EndSection

nvidia-xconfig couldn't read the monitor. If Xorg -configure + nv driver, 
generated a 1024x768 screen, then steal those values and put them here.

/var/log/Xorg.0.log should show why it doesn't accept that mode and also list 
some possible modes. Whether these modes are actually correct is undefined.
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Re: [7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64] NFS mount in fstab hangs during mountcritremote execution

2009-02-10 Thread Mel
On Tuesday 10 February 2009 01:34:47 Arjan van der Oest wrote:
 Hi Mel,

 Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, I have been out of the office
 for some time...

  Does this one also have a link UP message after nfs mounting? If not,

 then

  there's your culprit: network isn't up at mountcritremote time. You

 should

  mark it 'late' in fstab

 The UP message came more or less at the same time. Marking it late fixed
 the problem, still leaving me puzzled why the NFS mounts work without
 problem on identical machines but not in this one. Anyhow, since it's
 not a critical fs, the late option works fine.

There's 2 scenarios for late NFS mounting:
- local named: named gets started after mountcritremote, fixable with 
resolv.conf that has an additional nameserver or populate /etc/hosts.
- slow network card and/or DHCP server causing the network card to be down or 
without IP address / invalid resolv.conf at mountcritremote. Not really 
fixable.

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