Re: port for separation audio from video in mp4 file
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:05:20 +0200, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote: title says it, i downloaded mp4 file by youtube-dl, but it downloaded video and audio as well. I would like to separate audio from that file. Maybe mplayer can do that for you. It has options -dumpvideo and -dumpaudio. As you know, mplayer / mencoder can do everything that you can imagine. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: General and specific make questions
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:12:17 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 11:52:17PM -0500, Lars Eighner wrote: What I need most is to find (a) make tutorial(s) that do not suppose make is being used for compling c/c++ programs. Yes, I know, that is mostly why make exists, but many tutorials plunge right into C examples with implicit C rules, while -- it seems to me -- make could be much more useful for a variety of things, and I could sure use more of the general and arbitrary examples. I use make to e.g. build complex LaTeX documents with included gnuplot graphs. Works like a charm. But that it is not conceptually different from compiling a C program. Correct. I do the same here. Additionally, I use make and Makefile to process HTML to emulate SSI before uploading, which I do with - you already guessed it - with make install (uses ftp -u then), and make deinstall deletes stuff from the webserver. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PDF inventory software
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:17:29 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for a way to manage my personal collection of research articles. Ideally I'd like some way to keep records on authors, keywords, journals, and publication years of articles (PDF files) downloaded onto my local drive. In the course of reading literature for research, it often happens that I find myself wanted to return to something I have previously read, but I only recall a few things about the article, often the author and a keyword. Is there some inventory/database software (for local use only) that can be easily used for this purpose? (The closest things that comes to mind (conceptually) is image collection software.) What are some of my options here? One of your options - one of the most basic ones - is to use a CSV file where you define the different fields you want to be able to search. This is an imaginable approach: # inventory.csv # = # $1: $2: $3: $4: $5 # Author(s) : Title : Year : Keywords : File # --:---:---:---:- Foobar, J : Foo and Bar : 2000 : Foo Bar Baz Bleep : xyz12345.pdf Klopps, M : My Bratklops : 1975 : Eat Food Meat Loaf: qwertzui.pdf ... You can then use grep, cut, awk, sed, perl or any other scripting language for postprocessing, like making a list of your collection of a subset of it. The File field could even contain the full path of the file, or you use locate go get its location. This is handy for automating tasks, like print all the articles by Foobar J. One general advantage of this approach is that your favourite editor, along with grep, sed, awk 'n stuff are your tools of choice. You don't need to install lots of stuff. Even your bare base system can handle it. Because it's pure text, it's human readable and can be easily transfered between systems. It is very versatile and not limited by the functionalities of one certain program that you use. I'm very sure there is already a tool or a whole GUI subsystem that does indexing and taking care of arbitrary file collections, but of course I don't know its name because I never used it. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PDF inventory software
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:45:38 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Poly and LoH: Thanks, these are great ideas! I'd like to add that if you define your data fields well, you can use it to generate BibTeX and other LaTeX entries from your records. You can even easily turn it into HTML. But as I said: Keep in mind that it's very basic - but that makes is so versatile and strong. You could add a script that does some work (add, delete, modify, search or duplicate entries) for you, if you don't want to spend much time in the editor, and don't want to keep the pretty printing of the file intact (it doesn't matter anyway). The MOST important thing to pay attention to is NOT to use the desired delimiter inside a data field. If you already know that : will be in one of the fields, just use a less common symbol as delimiter, such as | or even ~. Of course, more comfortable solutions will surely keep off this manual work from you, but in most cases, they involve installing LOTS of dependencies. Finally, the advice of using some version control for the upcoming changes of the file is a good idea. You can even have more than one file, e. g. for separating topics or projects. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PDF inventory software
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:37:01 -0400 (EDT), vogelke+u...@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) wrote: Are these PDF files generated by scanning journal pages, or do they contain text? If the latter, you could use something like xapian or hyperestraier to make a full-text index of your files. On a much lower level, PDF files that contain text could be decomposited into ASCII using pdftotext, making it easy for further indexing. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PDF inventory software
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 23:11:50 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Since all the PDFs contain text (none are scanned images), can I simply use some command like grep to search for text within the collection? If so, how would I do this? Can grep read text from within PDFs? I don't think so, because PDF files seem to be binary format. There are two ways. The first is using the strings program that can isolate printable strings from binary files. The second - the much better way - is to use pdftotext to turn the PDF files into regular ASCII text which is greppable then. You could write a kind of pdfgrep tool that acts as a wrapper around pdftotext, grep, and your PDF file collection. In any case, it would surely help if your files have meaningful filenames, so they can easily be identified. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problem with burncd
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:31:10 -0400, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I just installed FreeBSD-7.2. I attempted to burn a CD; however, when the burn completes, I receive this message: burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE); Input/output error. This is the command line: # burncd -ev -s max fixate data notes.txt As far as I know, the command should be like # burncd -ev -s max data notes.txt fixate I don't know if the order matters. Furthermore: You know that you are recording notes.txt directly onto the CD and omitting the ISO-9660 filesystem? Now, if I do not use the 'fixate' command, no error message is displayed; however, the CD is not readable. Yes, it is not fixated. I have no idea what the problem is. I have used brand new CD disks that work fine on my Windows PCs. I had similar problems with burncd a long while ago, and I dropped it completely in favour of SCSI / CAM based tools. Is there a better CD-Burner program that I could use instead? There is. Install cdrecord and / or cdrdao for CDs, and growisofs for DVDs. Loat atapicam kernel module. Use it. Be happy. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: PDF inventory software
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:07:03 -0500, LoH lordofhyph...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel Underwood wrote: Yes, it works fine on most PDFs. There are a couple that give me: $ pdftotext Sanda-JAMA-2009\ \(Prostate\ Cancer\ Treatment\).pdf Error: Document has not the mandatory ending %EOF It's probably an issue with the PDF itself, not with the program. Check % file Sanda-JAMA-2009\ \(Prostate\ Cancer\ Treatment\).pdf Just to be sure it REALLY is a PDF file - and not a PPT with wrong name. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Control-Z the Sleep Signal
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:30:30 -0500, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu wrote: Which signal is sent to a process when one types ^z or Control-z? It appears to be SIGSTOP and according to signal's man page, this is one signal you can't catch. You can check the setting with this command: % stty -a cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = undef; eol2 = undef; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^H; intr = ^C; kill = ^U; lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q; status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W; ^ This entry indicates that ^Z sends the suspend signal. According to % stty -g ... status=14:stop=13:susp=1a:time=0:werase=17: ... ^^^ and % man 3 signal says that 17SIGSTOP stop process stop (cannot be caught or ignored) And I think that 17 (decimal) is refered to as 1a (hexadecimal) in the previous stty command. I have an application with a signal handler I wrote and I am trying to discourage folks typing CTRL-Z if it hangs because that does make it seem to go away but it is really still hanging around and any lock files it created are not removed. The effect is about as bad as if it crashed and left lock files. Normally, CTRL-c makes it remove the locks before exiting. If I read the information above correctly, ^Z cannot be caught. (I'm always interested in statements that correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Control-Z the Sleep Signal
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:07:30 -0500, Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com wrote: ^Z sends a SIGTSTP, which can be caught (or ignored, in your case). 18SIGTSTP stop process stop signal generated from keyboard What is the way to get this information? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Control-Z the Sleep Signal
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:15:27 +0200, Erik Trulsson ertr1...@student.uu.se wrote: Not quite. It indicates (according to stty(1)) that ^Z generates the SUSP character. The termios(4) manpage (referenced by stty(1)) says that SUSPIf the ISIG flag is enabled, receipt of the SUSP character causes a SIGTSTP signal to be sent to all processes in the foreground process group for which the terminal is the controlling terminal, and the SUSP character is discarded when processed. So it appears to be SIGTSTP which is sent by typing ^Z, which agrees with signal(3) where the SIGTSTP signal is described as stop signal generated from keyboard That's highly interesting. Thanks for the pointer to termios man page. I'm always surprised how well intended things work in FreeBSD. =^_^= -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeSBIE
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:13:45 -0700 (PDT), Chris Neudorf chrisneud...@yahoo.ca wrote: Hello, I'm not sure who to contact about this, but there is a problem with the freesbie.org website. I can't seem to connect to it. Me neither. % telnet 83.149.156.188 80 Trying 83.149.156.188... ... long long time passes ... telnet: connect to address 83.149.156.188: Operation timed out telnet: Unable to connect to remote host And nothing more. Seems that the site (or their web server in particular) is down. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:11:56 -0400, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: This is my first attempt to compile in a driver in a new kernel I am attempting to build. Using loader.conf, I have the 'snd_hda' driver presently being loaded. I want to compile it directly into the kernel. I tried this: devicesnd_hda # Sound driver Unfortunately, the kernel will not build. What is the proper way to build a kernel with sound embedded into it? I have this: # Sound device sound device snd_cmi As far as I know, both sound and snd_* for your particular hardware is needed in the kernel configuration file. I'm not sure if only device sound is sufficient and / or will load snd_* required automatically. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:48:32 +0200, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Yes. No go. I even tested to put snd_hda=YES in /etc/rc.conf I don't think that can have any effect. :-) The setting snd_hda_load=YES in /boot/loader.conf would be the correct choice. Anyway, if you included device sound device snd_hda in your kernel configuration file, the driver (a) should be compiled in and (b) loaded at startup. Of course, it won't show up in kldstat then, but % cat /dev/sndstat should indicate the running driver. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:44:56 +0200, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Polytropon skrev: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:48:32 +0200, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Yes. No go. I even tested to put snd_hda=YES in /etc/rc.conf Even tested kldload snd_hda=YES in rc.conf In 7.1 it dit work with some errors. Of course. /etc/rc.conf is executed, in the normal way it is used it simply associates values to variables. If you would put echo Get me beer! into /etc/rc.conf, you would see this message. So what you did: You executed kldload snd_hda=YES which you could also have tried the same command at the command line (sh). Indeed. But it does not load snd_hda Of course not. You could put kldload snd_hda.ko into /etc/rc.conf, but that isn't the way such things are done. None. No driver. Always have to add it manually. Which would not work if the driver was actually compiled int the kernel. Example: I have compiled snd_cmi and sound into my kernel. So my kldstat looks like this: # kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 13 0xc040 6959cc kernel 21 0xc0a96000 683b4acpi.ko If I now try to load the snd_cmi kernel module, this happens: # kldload snd_cmi.ko kldload: can't load snd_cmi.ko: File exists This indicates that the driver is already present. It has been preloaded by the kernel (it is IN the kernel), so it cannot be loaded by kldload. So if you ARE able to kldload the module, it hasn't been in the kernel (or at least not loaded). Maybe you can check your hints file for some strange entries? I'm going to reboot now so i get a fresh dmesg. OAU Good luck. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:51:03 -0800, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 11 June 2009 11:11:46 Polytropon wrote: Of course, it won't show up in kldstat then It will if you add -v to kldstat. Hmmm... true! % kldstat -v ... 118 pci/snd_cmi 119 sound ... But anyway, if you would kldload snd_something AFTER the kernel or through the means of /boot/loader.conf, kldstat without -v would show it, with .ko appended, as far as I remember. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:45:59 +0200, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.net wrote: Mel Flynn said the following on 2009-06-12 01:23: FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #0: Thu Jun 11 21:56:24 CEST 2009 r...@fqdn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC ^^^ Did you edit GENERIC Yes. Added sound and snd_hda Polite note: This is NOT the way to create a custom kernel. The handbook mentions that it's advised to create a copy of GENERIC and work with that. It's even possible to create a config file from scratch, including material from LINT and NOTES, as well as from GENERIC. In order to avoid problems, you should follow this advice given in the handbook. or did you forget to set KERNCONF during build/installkernel? No. cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC reboot is what I did. No snd_hda It looks understandable (allthough not mentioned in the handbook). Just to be sure, try the recommended approach. If you're not using KERNCONF, GENERIC will be selected automatically. # cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf # cp GENERIC MYKERNEL (or use any other descriptive name instead of MYKERNEL). edit MYKERNEL and add device sound device snd_hda # cd /usr/src # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL # reboot Check /etc/make.conf and /etc/src.conf for any strange values that may be a reason for our strange observations. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: XFCE4 and screen resolution
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:27:54 -0400, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: I tried a trick I found while Googling to place 'xrandr - 1024x768 -r 85' in the '.xinitrc' file; however, that did not work either. Maybe your .xinitrc isn't executed? In mine, I have xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xrandr --size 1400x1050 to override non-functioning X autodetect and non-working xorg.conf settings. Obviously I am doing something wrong here. Should I post this on the XFCE forum or does someone here have a solution. Do you have the same problems with other WM / DE? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:43:46 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: why not: edit MYKERNEL config MYKERNEL cd ../compile/MYKERNEL make depend make make install ? Yes, why not? It still works. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Installation Manual
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:09:04 +0200, n...@pettefar.com wrote: In www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.html It says: If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. but nowhere in the manual or the installation program is there any information or options on X server configuration or choosing a Default Desktop! Help! Today's X configures automatically. Otherwise, refer to the handbook's section about configuring X. For selecting a default desktop, refer to KDE and Gnome on FreeBSD which you'll find in the handbook, too. Of course you can use XFCE, Fluxbox, FVWM, WindowMaker, Metacity, Enlightenment or any other DE / WM you can think of. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: XFCE4 and screen resolution
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:42:52 -0400, Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote: Evidently, it is not being executed by startxfce4. If I run the command once XFCE4 is started, it works. Of course. ..-) What is startxfce4? Do you call it from text mode? Or is it a command in .xinitrc or .xsession? Because my primary dialog shell is csh, I have these: .xsession: #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc It incorporates the settings from .cshrc and then continues as .xinitrc. #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --fb 1400x1050 xrandr --size 1400x1050 exec startxfce4 (The last line is assumed; I have start wmaker there.) Make sure both files are +x. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Installation Manual
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:02:38 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Unless you're starting X with one of the methods that ignores .xinitrc and looks at .xsession instead, like xdm. Exactly this is why I invented the .xinitrc + .xsession double strike. :-) It works perfectly with xdm, and even without xdm, if you run startx from text mode. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:35:42 +0200, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote: The handbook, IMO, is wrong. The copy of GENERIC will in the course of upgrades deviate from the original one. You won't pick up improvements, like the scheduler change from 4BSD - ULE I don't think the handbook is wrong, but you mentioned a different, but still completely valid solution: What I do is include the GENERIC file and override things with nooption/nodevice directives. Never tried this, but surely will. The last time I compiled a kernel, I made a copy of GENERIC, edited the copy to only include what is really present on the system, and used KERNCONF with this file. So I composed a new file on the example of GENERIC. Of course I know that it's not possible to use a kernel config from 4.10 to build a kernel on 7.2, so caution is intended. :-) The benefit of my solution is that you are not depending on another file, or have to read it through in order to form the intended nodevice and nooption statements. Anyway, you have to review the file with each system update, to find out if something important changed (e. g. the default scheduler, as you mentioned). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: vim question...
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:22:48 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: PS: if gvim ever evolves into a word-processor, life will be *perfect* ;-) If you load a LaTeX file in gvim, it will get ahead of a word processor and evolve into a typesetting system. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automated Production of Web Pages
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:55:41 -0500, Martin McCormick mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu wrote: This needs to be some sort of script application so we can feed it automatically and not have to manually build each page. Is there any open-source platform which makes this especially quick and easy? I've found that a source file from : separated valus serves well for the (sometimes changed and appended) source data, and a Makefile that does everything else. From this Makefile, I simply first call a preamble HTML file, then a simple awk script that adds the data lines, sourced by the CSV file, in HTML format, and finally a HTML file with the rest of the page. The command make install would then automatically upload it. Of course, as one who likes to script repetitive tasks, I can attest to the fact that that first script is murder at times but the time you spent building it is payed back the next time when it runs automatically at 3 A.M. and only took 15 seconds to run. Really, it's not a big deal, no murder at times. The easiest way is you start with one HTML file that represents what you want to have in the end, then cut it into three parts (the preamble, the changing part, the footer) and the replace the changing part by a script. Well, you can even (ab)use cpp for this. HTMLPP=cpp -C -P -traditional The advantage is that you have separated parts for everything. The preamble file changes the look of the page, e. g. via CSS. The CSV database contains the changing data, and the awk script contains the description how the data should be displayed. This separation makes it very easy if you want to change of of the different aspects I mentioned. So, are there php-based or other packages that help automate this process? Forgive my polite disagreement, but according to your description which sounds to describe a relatively easy problem, PHP looks like really too much, too big for this job. (I don't use PHP very often, so my opinion might not be the best one to rely on.) That's why I love Unix. If you love UNIX, why not following its philosophy? Keep the thing simple. Make one solution that solves the problem best, nothing more, nothing less. As you said, it may take some time to get it running, but when it runs, it will run nearly forever. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Changing my login directory
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:33:24 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for that little tidbit in return -- I've been trying to figure how prompt settings. :) See those: set promptchars = %# set prompt = %...@%m:%~%# Or even: set prompt = [%T] %...@%m:%~%# set prompt = [%T] *%h =%? :%m/%l @%n %~%B%#%b set prompt = *%h=%? [%T] %...@%m/%l:%~%B%#%b There's lots of customization that you can do with csh's prompt variable; man csh is really very interesting. Ah yes, and don't forget to set autolist which is very handy, by the way. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ftp user issues
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:45:43 -0700, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote: I just upgraded to 7.2, and I am no longer able to log in via ftp with my user name. Other accounts are ok on the server. I checked the ftpusers file and my name is not on the list. You can use ftp -v to get more information, and maybe tcpdump from that interface so see what's happening. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to auto-mount a CD in XFCE4
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:30:22 -0400, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, that works. In retrospect, 99% of PC users insert a CD and it just 'works'. Why can't FreeBSD make it that simple? Because it is already doing it simple. Personally, I find myself often putting in a CD and NOT wanting to do something with it right now. Then any kind of forced interaction would be annoying. FreeBSD keeps it right in my opinion: Keep to the OS what is the OS's stuff, and leave everything optional to modular parts, such als HAL or DBUS. What should, in your opinion, happen? Mounting the disc to a predefined directory? Which one? What if it isn't a ISO-9660 disc, but a UFS or tar or plain disc? What if the disc is empty, should a CD recording applicaion be launched? Which one should it be? If two discs are put into two different drives (a situation common if you want to copy a disc 1:1), what should happen then? What if the order of puttin in the two discs is vice versa? If it is a rewritable disc, mount it rw? What if it gets popped out right after that (because it was the wrong disc), what should the OS do? When there's something executable on the disc, should it be executed right now? Maybe with root privileges, just to be sure? If there's more than one executable, should all of the executables be launched? If there are documents on it, should they be automatically opened? By which programs? If there's an installer for some program on the disc, should the application be installed automatically? Should the content of the disc be indexed right away, because this could be needed sometimes in the future? If you can answer these and many following questions, you are on your way on making FreeBSD being just like everything else that just works - like Windows. :-) FreeBSD is acting determinable: It does exactly what you tell it to do, by commands or by preconfiguration. This is a big strength, you always can predict what will happen. Have you ever thought about using PC-BSD? It is very convenient for 99% of the users you described, and still a FreeBSD system. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:52:39 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: i'll explain later, but if i can use a lightweight computer that has audio with the kde apps, i can create a reasonably priced tts or speech synthesizer that would be accessible to a great many people. instead of the $8-9 kilobuck windose devs. Lightweight computer and KDE apps? You must be joking. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:42:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 09:18:55AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: HP Tech Support gave me advice to replace it with FreeBSD 7.2. Try it from a flash drive first to test everything then replace the Ubunto. I hear some people on the list have FreeBSD on Asus Eee net books and it is working well. is there a particular url[s], or should i just google? Thre's an excellent article: http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt Don't be scared because of .de - it's in English. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:25:23 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: one q, polyt. am i mis-reading the timestamp on your mail? it reads 05:24 which is getting pretty late. i admit to not sacking out until 04:09 this morning, but hey, it's sunday! Actually, it's Monday morning in Germany: % date Mon Jun 22 06:59:58 CEST 2009 I'm up since 2:00 in the morning (night). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: self-serving redeux/revisited, and more questions?
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:14:47 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: ok, sorry. Brain fault: Core dump :-) Core fault: brain dump. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: you're not going to believe this.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:31:06 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: today we have huge flash disks for really cheap, but still don't have native flash filesystem in any OS, be it FreeBSD or windoze or mac os x or whatever. This flash chips have to emulate hard drive, which slows them down manyfold Article: NILFS: A File System to Make SSDs Scream http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7345/1.html -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: you're not going to believe this.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:59:44 -0500, David Kelly dke...@hiwaay.net wrote: We are already there. SSDs are not slower than mechanical disk drives, they are faster. The only detriments are 1) cost, 2) limited write life. What about power consumption? Because they seem to be primarily intended for portable devices, it should be better than tradidional hard disks, but as I read, it's worse (less efficient, because higher current drain). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2 system stuck trying at boot, trying to mount root device
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:13:41 -0400, Forrest Aldrich for...@gmail.com wrote: I also did a proper mount, fsck, and umount under the LiveFS shell, which made no difference. I hope I'm just reading it in the wrong order. The correct order is to 1st fsck, then mount, not vice versa. Never fsck a mounted file system. The other messages I see on the console include GEOM output: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad4s1a is ufsid/blahblah then GEOM_LABEL: Label for ufsid/blahblah removed. This is completely normal today. As long as a file system is not mounted, the label is provided. When it gets mounted, this label is being removed. You see this on your console. Anyone know how I can rescue this? Does /var/log/messages show something strange looking? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Versioning File System for FreeBSD?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:11:25 +0200, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: VMS had a filesystem that uses versioning: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Files-11] That's the first thing that came into my mind when reading this message. See LOGIN.COM;1 and then rm -rf /*.*;* :-) But it's not had, it's has, because VMS and its file system does still exist. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Versioning File System for FreeBSD?
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:57:34 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Yep, you're right. I thought about a way to extend the API in a backwards compatible way, but that's not as easy or straight forward as it seems. In fact, it opens a whole can of worms. If the versioned file system isn't also POSIX compatible (where everything happens in HEAD unless specified otherwise), it's practically useless. The question is: Do you want to take versioning support into the file system intendedly? FreeBSD keeps most things on a per-file basis (ordinary files, devices, processes etc.). Versioning can always be added as a separate solution (using versioning systems as separate programs) that does not make any assumptions on the file system used. As you concluded, the file system's complexity would of course grow with those requirements. In addition to your arguments, just imagine how a fsck for such a file system would have to be implemented... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:20:42 -0400, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/24 Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com: everyone has hundreds of GB's on the disk No. No they don't. Please hang up and try again. If you need to make a collect call, please dial zero to speak with an oper- ator. Dial all the numbers altogether to talk to the fat guy with the big hard disk. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:33:12 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot z.szal...@lcwords.com wrote: Hello, I am trying to figure out how to mount a network NTFS drive (192.168.16.3\backups) on a FreeBSD system. Can you point me to the appropriate documentation? The Handbook mentions the mount command but I am not sure I can do it using mount? Or can I? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mount-unmount.html Thank you very much in advance! Because Windows does not conform to standards, you have to use mount_smbfs. As far as I understood, it doesn't even matter which file system is on the Windows disk. I will give an example. First, set up those in your /etc/fstab (makes things more easy): //administra...@ntws2kxx/a$ /smb/a smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //administra...@ntws2kxx/c$ /smb/c smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //administra...@ntws2kxx/d$ /smb/d smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //administra...@ntws2kxx/e$ /smb/e smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 //administra...@ntws2kxx/f$ /smb/f smbfs rw,noauto 0 0 Then, make /etc/nsmb.conf look like this: [default] workgroup=ARBEITSGRUPPE [NTWS2KXX] addr=192.168.16.3 [NTWS2KXX:Administrator] password= You can then simply issue # mount /smb/c You can check out manpages for: mount_smbfs fstab nsmb.conf Then, I'm sure, how you can add a directory name as you mentioned above (\backups). I think that's possible, too. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:34:22 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Looked for mkisofs in the online FreeBSD man pages, but couldn't find it. What is modern equivalent? Ther is no modern equivalent - mkisofs is the tool of choice, and it's very modern because it does the job well which it is intended for. Anyway, it does not belong to the base OS, so it needs to be installed by the port / package cdrtools. More information via man mkisofs is available then. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:24:13 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: To be honest, I never have had a problem with /usr since disks are large enough to have all on only one. Mostly, partitioning according to directory structures has nothing to do with disk space, but with intention. There are many many arguments pro and contra partitioning. It's a matter of intention. It would be even better to have an editor like joe in /bin than anything like vi. Certainly. Ok, then let us support joe. Or the Midnight Commander's editor, mcedit. :-) The good thing about vi - yes, there is such a thing - is the fact that it even works completely under the weirdest circumstances, e. g. if you are on a terminal line that does not have cursor keys or function keys, then you can still use the full power of vi, as long as you know how to master it, but that's true for anything in the UNIX world. But isn't there emacs in the ports too? Sure, let's take emacs into the OS, as well as any other editor one could imagine. And because most people like graphical applications, let's include OpenOffice for editing configuration files in maintenance mode. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:55:48 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: this is not what I mean. I wanted to say, as long as the boot disk come up, I also have /usr available when I have the space to have it all on the same disk. I see. The fact that /usr isn't available after booting in maintenance mode (SUM) is often important for recovery purposes. The OS leaves it to the admin to take such important decisions. :-) The good thing about vi - yes, there is such a thing - is the fact that it even works completely under the weirdest circumstances, e. g. if you are on a terminal line that does not have cursor keys or function keys, then you can still use the full power of vi, as long as you know how to master it, but that's true for anything in the UNIX world. Aren't all - or at least most - of the Unix editors like this? I think most of them are. But, for example, I don't think that the mcedit (Midnight Commander's editor) is very usable without cursor and function keys... But isn't there emacs in the ports too? Sure, let's take emacs into the OS, as well as any other editor one could imagine. And because most people like graphical applications, let's include OpenOffice for editing configuration files in maintenance mode. :-) Yes, this is the idea of the ideas. But why don't we take Microsoft Word running under wine? I mean, if we strike, we should have a real strike. That's a very good suggestion. But let's take into mind that we do need the most advanced and modern MICROS~1 technology, so FreeBSD should include a pirated copy of Windows 7 in order to run the latest and most expensive pirated copy of Office, programmed in Java, running through Flash. With music. And dancing puppies. If - then real. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:33:56 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 am 10:02:30 Polytropon wrote: Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany big brother is watching me. Yes, Dr. Schäuble does so. :-) An xterm just came up with this message: The default editor in FreeBSD is vi, which is efficient to use when you have learned it, but somewhat user-unfriendly. To use ee (an easier but less powerful editor) instead, set the environment variable EDITOR to /usr/bin/ee Isn't this the best reasoning why it should stay as it is? The ee editor isn't that bad. Especially ^K and ^L are more easy to use than vi's edit buffer equivalent. While there's ed and ex in /rescue, ee isn't. % which ee | xargs ldd /usr/bin/ee: libncurses.so.7 = /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x28088000) libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280c6000) Relies on ncurses, but so does dialog / sysinstall... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:38:00 +, af300...@gmail.com wrote: for LaTeX. I was using a Linux system at work and would like to install it on my FreeBSD system at home since I've been looking for something like this for exchanging math questions I have with a friend who's helping me understand mathematics as I pursue my degree. LaTeX is just what I've been looking for. However, when I went to find the port by doing make search name=latex I was returned so many hits, frankly, I'm overwhelmed. What do I need to install from ports to get the LaTeX language on my system, show the markup using the native DVI and more importantly, write pdf file from the markup? The easiest way is to install teTeX via package. # pkg_add -r teTeX You can then use latex and pdflatex commands from your tex source files. The tutorial I was going off of was using something called pdftex I think, but not sure. tex - latex == pdftex - pdflatex. :-) There's just so much there. Obviously, LaTeX is much more than I thought it was. I'm looking forward to understanding it more. LaTeX is a professional typesetting system which can be (ab)used to do everything imaginable. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /binHi,
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:21 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: What kind of editor do you need for rescue? Just edit one or two lines in some config file to allow the full system to start again. Rescue does not need an editor programmers are used to edit their source files. I won't say anything different. For the usual maintenance and get the damn thing working again tasks the /rescue editor, especially vi, should be enough. Commands are i, a, and :wq. From my experience, I can't remember to have used anything else. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:40:50 +0800, Erich Dollansky er...@apsara.com.sg wrote: On 26 June 2009 pm 14:01:02 Polytropon wrote: Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 was this the russian PDP-11? I'm not sure if there was a PDP-11 compatible system. Contruction mostly concentrated on IBM compatibles (and I don't mean PCs with that, of course). Maybe there's something USSR-special with a russian name (Iskra, Minsk, erm, no the Minsk wasn't a PDP-like...). There in fact was a system compatible to DEC's VAX architecture, the robotron K1840: http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/k1840.htm It did not only have software support for VAX (with its OS SVP1800), but as well for UNIX (with its OS MUTOS1800). As far as I know, the russians (i. e. the soviets) participated, like every country in the RGW, in manufacturing computers. From the USSR, especially processors were delivered, while other countries specialized on other fields, such as the GDR on magnetic tape units. The P8000 was manufactured by EAW in Berlin in the GDR. It was a UNIX System III multi-user workstation environment, used mostly for application programming. http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000.htm http://www.robotrontechnik.de/index.htm?/html/computer/p8000compact.htm I still own such a system and would like to get it working some day (one P8000 and one P8000 compact). So much for today's history lesson. :-) multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many years in the distant past. :-) You want to say 'yesterday'? No. Yesterday, all my troubles seemed so far away. :-) Being into that computer stuff makes you feel old, even when you're young, because you've already seen everything... When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting pain. :-) I do not think so. He will go directly to heaven. Why? He made all computer users pray that no data get lost when the machine freezes again. And finally, he invented God, the Heaven, the Hell (delivered in small packages called Windows), the universe, life and everything. Children get educated that way, at least in today's german schools. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:32:31 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully Polytropon will chime in on this, but I had to install TeXLive for everything to work. Ere I am, J. H., the ghost in the machine. :-) I've never tried TeXLive, I have to admit, because I NEVER had ANY problem using the teTeX package. And yes, I don't build it from source because pkg_add -r is so much comfortable. There are some tools that are a good put aside for teTeX, such as xpdf (which brings also pdftotext), and gv, dvitty, xdvi. Suggestion: try teTeX. If you encounter problems, then install TeXLive. It would be nice to hear what - in such a case - has been the problem with teTeX that TeXLive then solved. As I said, I never found myself in such a situation, and I'm using LaTeX for nearly everything. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Which latex should I install
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:53:46 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Polytropon, here is the problem I was having: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2351398+0+archive/2009/freebsd-questions/20090607.freebsd-questions Granted, that's not much to go on :) Ah, I see, the famous xcolor package. Okay, I have to admit that I never used it before, so no problem for teTeX from the ports. Until now, I was fine with usepackage(color) and usepackage(colortbl), then rowcolor, columncolor and cellcolor, and finally colorbox. Seems that I am not a color-power-user. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Stale lock files
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:00:24 -0500, Charles Howse cho...@charter.net wrote: What are stale lock files? I've been having them for a few weeks now, they need to go away! Lock files are used by several programs to indicate file-wise that they are running. The lock file is created when the program starts, and usually deleted when it ends. If it is interrupted (due to an error or ^C), the lock file isn't removed. Most programs remove stale lock files by theirselves when they are started again (e. g. fetchmail). It's possible that there are programs that refuse to start, because the lock file (falsely) indicates that the program is already running. The location of the lock file seems to depend on the respective program. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Best practices for securing SSH server
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:17:11 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. For example, the server in question is a desktop machine at work. I regularly see transfer rates of 13MB/s. It's at a major university, which is by itself another high-risk factor, precisely because there are so many (often weakly protected) high-speed connections. That's a valid point, and I'd like to add that there is some consideration: Servers are usually protected with proper means. This goes especially for UNIX servers. Desktops, on the other hand, can more easily be taken over (especially non-UNIX machines), so if an attacker got his foot inside a network, it's very useful to him. There are even trading platforms where criminals buy and sell whole networks of compromised PCs. Of course, everything happening inside such networks should be seen as what it is: a threat to security. Just imagine some clever guy uses telnet inside such a network to configure the server... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:15:12 -0500, Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: I like M$ Notepad - is there a version of that for FBSD? You are on the wrong list. Correct your inner state of mind and try again. :-) No, seriously: Maybe gnotepad+ appeals to you? Actually the old edit from dos is sweet too Try the Midnight Commander's mcedit editor, it has some of the functionaliy, keyboard-usage-wise... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: The question of moving vi to /bin
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:23:17 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: what about j, k [down, up]. and h,l [left, right]? why reach over for the arrow keys! oh, and o, and O [open line below/Above], and \search and that's 97 and 44/100ths of what you'll ever need. Well, I'm not good at vi. As a lazy guy (TM) I honestly prefer ee, as long as the cursor keys work. If they don't, well, I have a vi keyboard reference in my extremely important documentation folder - and yes, it is a real folder, not a directory. :-) So if everything fails, there's still vi and the content of /rescue to get you back working. Maybe this is because vi scared me when using WEGA (which is the GDR's equivalent of UNIX System III, run on the P8000 multi-user workstation). Well, we were all young, many many years in the distant past. :-) ps: when bill j. dies and meets st. pete at the pearly gate, pete'll say: So what did you do-- And bill will say, I wrote vi. red-carpet is rolled out :_) When Bill G. arrives at the pearly gate, ol' Pete won't ask him what he did do, instead send him to MICROS~1 C:\HELL.EXE with the advice to click on the devil to start the everlasting pain. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: serial modem
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:13:31 -0400, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: yes the entry was wrong... changed it. when i try to use tip i get device busy. when i use cu it says connected but nothing else happens and i don't see any prompts. it's like frozen. i can't type any AT commands... nothing. i changed the baud rate around. all the way down to 9600. so now the same thing happens with tip. if used tip says connected but i can not issue any commands... You could try to leave it to ppp, just for testing purposes. Everything you need is a number you can dial. Here's an example for an /etc/ppp/ppp.conf that would do something like this: # --- ppp.conf --- default: set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE) set device /dev/cuad0 set speed 115200 set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT OK-AT-OK ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT set timeout 120 enable dns papchap: set phone PHONE_NUM set authname USERNAME set authkey PASSWORD add default HISADDR test: set phone 0123456789 set authname QWERTZ set authkey ASDFGH add default HISADDR # --- ppp.conf --- end --- With such a file, you can now: # ppp test ppp dial *click dit dit dit dit... do doo... * PPP close *click* ppp # In this case, you have confirmed that the serial modem works as intended. You can of course enter real data for an ISP that offers modem dial-in to get online. :-) You can find more help and examples in man ppp. the modem has 2 leds. one yellow and one green. according to the manual the yellow should be blinking as follows: Fast Blinking (0.5 sec on/0.5 sec off) Net search/ Not registered/Turning Off Slow Blinking (0.3 sec on/ 2.7 sec off) Registered, Full Service i think i'm only seeing 'Fast Blinking'. i wonder what 'Net search' really means and where it's searching for it. it's connected through a RS-232 to the serial port... ?!? But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 +, no-s...@people.net.au wrote: Sorry for starting a new thread with this - my ISP's mail server seems to rejecting all mail recipients when I Which which reason? send email with a mail client, so I'm having to use webmail instead. Their tech says they won't help - they only support Outlook! Grrr! Can I read this as they don't support proper POP/SMPT? What an ISP... :-( -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit] depth)), Why not a choice, 800x600 for laptops with smaller screen (or in 16:9 format for modern laptops) - or try to autodetect what is REALLY on the screen (instead of assuming a standard)? Just a polite idea. run firefox or another lightweight browser You're a funny guy. :-) When talking about lightweight browser in X, strangely dillo comes to my mind. Yes, I know, it's quite limited, but... (even lynx in the console if X fails to start) Very good idea. on it's own filesystem or over apache. Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for your choice of WM from the internet. A kind of preview screenshot would be good - you know, users judge from first sight primarily. :-) I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to the broad public. Hmmm... I don't think so. In my opinion, it's a very good idea. You're offering functionality (like preinstalled and preconfigured) in a matter that only PC-BSD serves today, and for PC-BSD, you need quite modern hardware. It's not usable for older systems, and you know how fast today's systems are considered older. So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-) No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's only my own, unimportant point of view. The advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that sysinstall offers. This would be very interesting as long as it does not require too much additional services to be included and run. Anybody else think it's a good idea? At least an interesting idea, and this is what counts. Good is always defined from the viewer's site. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Older FreeBSD reorders my disk nodes, can't mount root
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:19 -0400, Alexander Sack pisym...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, no big deal. My da's in the fstab were reordered so I try to find it by mounting s1a from the other da nodes and no matter what I choose I can not mount root. I can't see the exact disk because dmesg scrolls by too fast but based on the number of da's, it seems to have found both the internal Adaptec and external SAN via the QLogic 23xx card. I tried every node but nothing mounts (I get either 6 or 22 I forgot off hand). For scrolls too fast: Use the Scroll Lock key, then the cursor and page scrolling keys to see the messages that went off the screen. For reordering: Does the 4.x kernel already have ATA_STATIC_ID? Maybe this applies to your problem. I'm not running such a setting, so this is only a wild guess. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: WebInstaller (was: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released)
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:41:46 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
A 800x600 resolution is just too crowded when you try to make a system
on it.
It's no problem when you run the browser without title line, menu bar,
icon bar, other bars, and status line. You don't need to make all
the text in 100pt letters. :-)
I think there's more 1024x768 resolutions than 800x600.
Don't assume anything. Test for it.
If
1024x768 doesn't work, we revert back to a console tty? I have said
nothing firm as in it's this way or no way.. I'm just trying to see
reasonable defaults.
Default = use what's present - the easiest way in my opinion.
And I didn't mention dillo because I don't use it or have ever seen
it. lightweight to me is lynx.
Yes, complete agree.
A kind of preview screenshot would be good - you know, users judge
from first sight primarily. :-)
Nice point. I'll have to think of a way to get this considered. a
JPG would be nice, up until the X fails to start. :D
You know HTML? img src=some_image.jpg alt=image of XFCE desktop
longdesc=The XFCE desktop looks very nice, it has lots of icons,
and some windows are opened. :-)
I need input here:
If said chosen WM is unsatisfactory to the user, how the heck can I
offer a reconfiguration window? sysinstall was built with a different
mindset, so we can't easily use sysinstall.
Selection of window manager is usually done through user's .xinitrc.
In case of xdm used, .xsession (which can incorporate .xinitrc).
Doesn't work for KDE and Gnome because they bring their own
replacements for xdm, i. e. kdm and gdm; all of them involve
changes in /etc/ttys.
Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-)
No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into
life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance
that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of
course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions
with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's
only my own, unimportant point of view.
WindowMaker? sure. Sun keyboard? no, absolutely not. My way, or no way.
:D
I've got a 122 key IBM model M, too. How about that? :-)
what do you mean by completely install systems myself -- that's
what you're doing. You're installing a -RELEASE aren't you? you're
installing a software kit that will eventually be referred to a
package once it's stored on your system... Gets a big chunk out of
the way.
Exactly. I usually go with the install CD for the base system, then
pkg_add -r for the applications. Compile only for mplayer (due to
options). Then some configuration work (usually done with samples
from previous systems), and then use. Install once, use then. I
know this makes me look like a very lazy guy. :-)
Personally, and this is for the archives, when I setup a box. I like
it to be up quick.
If I want this, I simply take an already installed system, use dump
and restore, and then do the changes that are neccessary, like
reconfiguring X and network settings. As I said, I'm lazy, and this
way is quite fast.
install -RELEASE. freebsd-update. pkg_add -r
packages. port{upgrade,master}. Now you have a functioning install
in less time than windows takes to install and update. :D
Yes, that is true. And it will continue working much longer than
Windows will even exist.
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Google Earth on FreeBSD 7.0
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:45:52 +0300, Mike Barnard mike.barna...@gmail.com wrote: LD_LIBRARY_PATH has that path in its entry. Is there something I am missing. If google earth program is a Linux program, have you installed and started the Linux ABI? Maybe the needed library will be required to be located in the /usr/compat/linux/ subtree. Anybody managed to get it to work? Never tried, sorry. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: QUESTION: Of the various modern Linux distributions, which do you prefer? and why? Actually, I'm not a Linux user. But Linux was my first step into using UNIX on a x86 PC. More than 10 years ago, I started with Slackware Linux, and with the rise of FreeBSD 4.0, I did abandon it. Modern Linux distributions don't appeal very much to me, because they are messy: Missing manpages, partially ununderstandable file system hierarchy layout, untidy source code. Ah yes, and I need a very modern PC to run them. No thanks, not my party. That's why I can't tell about them, because I've not used them. The only thing that I observed when playing around with SuSE live CDs was that the Gnome version of their Linux had a much better internationalisation than the KDE version. Set language to German, and Gnome gives german text and messages most of the time, nearly everywhere. KDE cannot do that. It even gives english error messages. This is what scares Germans who want to try Linux. They cannot stand such complicated computer thingies. :-) I'm very interested to see the spread of opinion about Linux distributions from FreeBSD fans. Why? And an addition: I'm not a FreeBSD fan, I'm a FreeBSD user. I am using it because it serves my needs best, and I am nearly exclusively using it (along with Solaris). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: serial modem
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:19:56 -0400, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote: But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something? Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually don't search for nets... Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line? it's a gsm/sms modem. i need to get to it to set some settings using AT commands... Okay, then I do understand. My advice of using PPP should be fine then. You just have to add somme AT commands you need. PPP can issue them instead of dialing a number and then establish the connection. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:28:01 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: That and Linux seems to only ever get the abridged version of manual pages. When you compare manual pages for an equivalent commands between FreeBSD and most Linux flavors, it really shows. I noticed this when I went from Debian to FreeBSD. Finally! Real documentation! There ware two things that I found to be solved better in FreeBSD than in various Linusi: 1. Amount of manual pages: FreeBSD does not only document commands, it documents configuration files, kerlen interfaces, library functions and maintenance procedures. The tradition of manual pages furthermore is carried by third party software (ports), e. g. man opera - you would not guess that it existed. In the opposite, try to find a manpage of some KDE program (as if anyone would read manpages for KDE things). 2. Quality of documentation: The manpages are excellently written. No look at our Wiki or this page intentionally left free there. furthermore, the OS's source is very tidy, uses good names for functions, variables and datatypes, and has lots of useful comments. As a developer, documentation is a MUST HAVE for me. Having all the documentation avaliable off line right after installation is very good. Sadly, Linux didn't (doesn't?) offer this. In functionality - driver availability, to call it by name - Linux may be much better than FreeBSD. It may even support crap devices as it is done by proprietary Windows drivers. But because I (1) do not own such hardware and (2) usually don't use modern computers, I do not depend on them. That's the great thing when you live in the stone age - you don't have to care for any modern stuff. :-) FreeBSD, in opposite to most Linusi, enables me to run my old hardware FASTER (!) with each release. Sadly, this gain of speed is eaten up by other things I use right away, such as X and its applications. I can't imagine that Linux would make a better shape here. I sometimes try some Live system CD from a Linux distribution to see it this is still the case. Is this the case? Yes, it is the case. Reboot, return to FreeBSD. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:14:12 +0300, Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:07:08 +0200, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: I was wondering if there were any other Slackers out there! Of course we are still `out there'. I started using a UNIX-like clone on my 386 SX with Slackware, by fetching the floppy disk images. I've abandoned Linux for serious work for years now, but I still have my Infomagic CD-ROMs :) hehe, me too. :-) In my case, it's a POWER!-CD LINUX (from Sybex) of Slackware with kernel 2.0.32, X 3.1.1 - purchased with a magazine for 29,95 DM many years ago. The system it ran on was a 486 DX2 / 66. And the system was quite usable, especially support for PS printer and LaTeX were most helpful. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) However /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a do not exist. I do have entries such as /dev/ad6a and/dev/ad8a but gmirror doesn't like those. What must I do the get them to show after I've labeled? If you have /dev/ad[68]a, it indicates that you haven't created a slice on those disks, instead you created one partition (a) on each of the disks. If you are a lazy guy (as I am), then use sysinstall to create the slices and the partition. Choose standard MBR after the slice editor and go ahead with the partition editor. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:57:13 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Whenever I run the particular Linux MATLAB installation I have access to, it must be run from the command-line. Consequently, I have the MATLAB gui and an open terminal window (which only gets in the way). Is there a way to hide this terminal window completely? If I close it, MATLAB closes. Of course. I know I can move it to another Workspace, but I'm hoping there's another way. This is a function the window manager (i. e. XFCE 4) will have to do. Maybe you can do a trick to not have a terminal window. How about running the MATLAB program from a kind of Start: dialog. I know it existed in XFCE 3. Create an icon for it, and as the command line, enter the MATLAB starting command. Or does MATLAB explicitlely require to run from out of a terminal session? I don't mind that the Terminal window opens whenever I run MATLAB, I would just like to be able to hide it each time. Check for some kind of minimize after start option in XFCE 4. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: POLL: Linux preferences from FreeBSD users
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:59:26 -0400, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote: Are most of these shortcomings primarily due to the fact that FreeBSD has a single structured line of development? In opposite to Linux, FreeBSD has the concept of a centrally maintained operating system (the OS) and additional applications (everything else) which means packages, ports, and 3rd party software. You can see this even through the directory hierarchy: Everything inside the /usr/local subtree is not needed for the OS (and can be removed with leaving you with a completely intact OS). The distributors of Linux choose what belongs to their distribution which does not have such a separation. Basal software, as well as additional stuff, is incorporated via some kind of packages, even the kernel can be handled that way. Of course, as you said, most Linux distribution has its own concept and line of development, separated from those of the other distributions. That creates incompatibilities and differences between the distributions. FreeBSD, on the other hand, manages to keep even binary compatibility between major OS changes. Those who develop and control the OS are programmers who put a lot emphasize on quality - and that's very important to me. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Fix It CD, bsdlabel, and /dev?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:05:13 -0700, Drew Tomlinson d...@mykitchentable.net wrote: Next I used bsdlabel and created 500M a: partitions on two of the drives (ad6 ad8). ^ There is no colon after the partition letter. The colon is used to refer (or change) to the 1st DOS diskette drive. :-) I'm not sure what you mean here. I showed it as a: as that's how bsdlabel reports it when displaying the label 'bsdlabel ad6' for example. Of course you're correct: bsdlabel shows a:. In terminology, when refering to a partition, it's usually said partition a or partition ad6s1a instead of partition a:. The convention a: - drive letters - is very common in DOS, as well as in other modern MICROS~1 products. In fact, I was just joking, as when people are asking questions about a /home folder or hard discs. Terminology. :-) I think this was part of my problem. For example, I did 'bsdlabel ad6' instead of 'bsdlabel ad6s1'. Now I have entries such as /dev/ad6s1a and /dev/ad8s1a after using 'bsdlabel -e dev'. As Wojciech mentioned, the *need* to have a slice on a disk is mostly not there when you're using BSD only - there's no problem if you don't have a slice, but just one partition covering the whole disk. Then you just operate on this partition. You can even newfs the whole disk without making a partition. In this case, the c partition - the whole disk - is used, and you can omit the c. If you newfs ad6, you end up with a formatted ad6 partition ad6c, which is equivalent to ad6. But that's going off-topic. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hide Terminal window (using xfce4. and 7.2-RELEASE)?
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:28:29 -0400, Randy Pratt bsd-u...@embarqmail.com wrote: I'm not familar with MATLAB but you may find ports/sysutils/screen helpful. See http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/ for more information. I use it for starting some programs in a detached mode but they can be reattached at any time. There's a tool called detach included in the ports. It allows you to start a process and then keep it running independent of the existence of its starting shell or your login shell. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Num Lock key in X, PF keys, involves xmodmap, xev
xmodmap is for X, that is WHAT for the console (text mode)? Would be nice to make the keyboard work properly at VTs, too. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...Fr ! ESC / DefF keycode 134 = Escape ! A-Abf / Abruf keycode 210 = F25 ! PsAus keycode 219 = F26 ! Linie / Pos1 keycode 111 = F27 ! Pause / E-Lö keycode 220 = F28 ! bSDef / DrDef keycode 221 = F29 ! Eing Lösch keycode 110 = F30 ! Bed-hilfe / Hex keycode 205 = F31 ! Aufz Mode / Pause keycode 207 = F32 ! Wiedgabe / Test keycode 204 = F33 ! ^a keycode 170 = Insert ! I- / Zoom keycode 99 = Home ! Bild ^ keycode 105 = Prior ! a° / aaa° keycode 103 = Delete ! -I keycode 106 = End ! Bild v keycode 107 = Next ! ^ keycode 98 = Up ! - keycode 100 = Left ! v keycode 97 = Down ! - keycode 102 = Right ! keycode 104 = Down ! Num keycode 9 = Num_Lock ! / keycode 78 = KP_Divide ! * keycode 63 = KP_Multiply ! - keycode 112 = KP_Subtract ! . keycode 82 = period ! -J keycode 86 = KP_Add ! Daten Freigabe keycode 108 = KP_Enter ! Anford / Ungült keycode 181 = F13 ! Nachricht / Antw keycode 126 = F14 ! Fmt Wechs / Instr keycode 182 = F15 ! Zeile just keycode 190 = F16 ! Druck / S-Abf keycode 191 = Print ! FAusW Ausw Roll / Test keycode 192 = Scroll_Lock ! Pause / Untbr keycode 193 = Pause ! Dup keycode 198 = F20 ! Such keycode 199 = F21 ! Vers / Kop keycode 200 = F22 ! Holen keycode 201 = F23 ! Zu keycode 203 = F24 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SanDisk FreeBSD 7.2 p1 install
On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:46:15 -1000, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote: I discovered that in the HP Mini netbook FreeBSD 7.2 unfortunately does not recognize the Nic's either hard wired or Wlan. Anone know how to find what nics are in this HP MIni? There are no instructions about this with the unit. And I have had no help on the HP Forums. Any body know how I can detect these chips under FreeBSD 7.2. The command # pciconf -lv should list you all the devices the kernel detects, no matter if a driver is attached (means: will usually work then) or not. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Num Lock key in X, PF keys, involves xmodmap, xev
Additional information, just recognized: When Num Lock is on (as described in my first message), some window manager functions don't work anymore: When doubleclicking on a title bar, the window does not roll up. When pressing Alt and dragging a window with the left mouse button, the window does not move. If Num Lock is switched off, it works as intended. With Num Lock on, other things still work, such as pressing Ctrl and Shift and double- clicking on the title bar maximizes the window (Ctrl alone maximizes vertically, and Shift horizontally). Pressing Alt and clicking left on the title bar sets the window into the background. (For most of these functionalities, I'd like to use the 2x5 keys on the left as I did it with the Sun keyboard.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to symlink devfs devices?
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:33:42 -0500, Sagara Wijetunga sag...@tomahawk.com.sg wrote: Hi Is it possible to create a symlink to a device and use the symlink in place of the real device name in FreeBSD, especially in version 7.2? 1. A disk /dev/camera - /dev/da0s1 2. A network device re0 - lan0 That's no problem: Use the link statement: link source target, such as linkda0s1 camera linkre0 lan0 in you /etc/devfs.conf file. See the manual page for this file for more information, or see the example entries in this file. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for a high school class? (long)
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 07:58:21 -0700, Chris eaglet...@hughes.net wrote: 1. Taking the specs into account, what is the window manager that will provide the closest match to the Apple desktop for mouse ops, browsing files/directories, and editing text files. I suppose I should add running Firefox (or a reasonable similar browser that will render HTML and execute Javascript identically). Maybe XFCE 4 is a good choice: http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/ -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:03:04 -0800, Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: And use xev to figure out the keycode of an unused key on your keyboard you can easily access (like multimedia keys). Then you can activate it when leaving your spot or when that creepy guy from accounting tries to look over your shoulder. You would probably need some window/session manager that supports global key shortcuts. Just as an example, I do use this with WindowMaker. My Sun Type 6 keyboard has a nice double-width button Help in the upper left - excellent for hitting it when leaving the workstation. It is connected with the xlock command. I like the bluetooth idea too, with the caveat that the range might not be sufficient. To make it more complicated, what about wearing some specific USB device on your clothes, attached to a chain, and when you leave the computer, it will pop out of the USB socket and therefore cause xlock to be called? :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk
On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:33:50 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:35:24AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: To make it more complicated, what about wearing some specific USB device on your clothes, attached to a chain, and when you leave the computer, it will pop out of the USB socket and therefore cause xlock to be called? :-) Does FreeBSD still have the kernel panic when mounted USB storage devices are detached without unmounting problem? Hmmm... How do other operating systems react if you suddenly remove a direct storage media that is just read from or written to? Do other operating systems go like, Oh wow, the hard disk just disappeared, so then I will write the data on another hard disk... :-) As far as I know, there are some tools like DBUS and HAL that make using USB sticks more easy in terms of automount if plugged in, autoumount when removed, but I have to be honest: I don't use any automount feature (due to security reasons), so in my opinion it's always safe to first umount, then remove. If so, you could just mount a USB storage device, and unplug it when you leave the keyboard. Then your computer would be safe from snooping, because it would kernel panic every time you walk away! I first thought about that, too, but in my opinion it's not needed to mount whatever you plug in as USB device, maybe a defective MP3 player made from crap, a memory stick or who knows what. The lock / unlock action could be assigned to the simple presence of the device. And: Yes, I know, that's a very stupid idea. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Automatic screen lock when leaving desk
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:45:02 +0100, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: I used to be a NeXTie, and the Screensaver.app there had a really nifty little feature. I'm surprised it's not been copied into other screensaver applications since, as it's pretty simple. They just had a facility where moving the mouse cursor to one corner of the screen and leaving it still for a few seconds would cause the screen saver / screen lock to come on straight away. Conversely you could designate another corner of the screen as don't turn on screensaver even after an extended period of idleness. Being a NeXT app this was all configurable by dragging little '+' or '-' icons around a scaled down image of the screen, or off it entirely if you didn't want that facility. This feature has been implemented in the (original) Norton Commander (Version 4 or 5, I think), but just as a screensaver, no real lock. Remember, it was DOS. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Hareware-RAID (hptrr) - Slice size changes (FreeBSD 7.0)
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:04:16 +1000, ghostcorps ghostco...@gmail.com wrote: Looking at the DEV folder I notice [...] Just for terminology: /dev directory. No folder. FreeBSD doesn't have folders, it has directories. The directory's name is not DEV, it is dev, precise /dev. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:48:37 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: So . . . how do I upgrade Firefox from 3.0 to 3.5 without running the risk of losing everything (bookmarks, a 100-tab session, et cetera)? Well, I don't think those settings get altered in any way - they do not reside in the port's directories (where it will be installed into). To be sure, make a backup copy of your ~/.mozilla/ directory before. For some reason, it seems that the upgrade has to be made by deleting 3.0 and installing 3.5 afterward. What's up with that? No idea. Anyway, user's files won't be touched. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:36 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:43:47AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:48:37 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: So . . . how do I upgrade Firefox from 3.0 to 3.5 without running the risk of losing everything (bookmarks, a 100-tab session, et cetera)? Well, I don't think those settings get altered in any way - they do not reside in the port's directories (where it will be installed into). To be sure, make a backup copy of your ~/.mozilla/ directory before. Does that cover both bookmarks *and* my tab session? I think so. Because a !root user cannot write to Firefox's directories (inside the /usr/local/ subtree), data local to the user will be stored in his home directory. The correct path is ~/.mozilla/firefox and maybe ~/.mozilla/default. I can at least confirm it for the bookmarks. I haven't checked for tab sessions because I'm not using that feature. But just judging from a conceptual point of view: WHY NOT? :-) For some reason, it seems that the upgrade has to be made by deleting 3.0 and installing 3.5 afterward. What's up with that? No idea. Anyway, user's files won't be touched. Do you know this from personal experience, or are you just assuming that I won't pull out all my hair five seconds after I discover it deleted a bunch of shit I wanted to keep? As I said, I can confirm it for bookmarks in Firefox. It's a similar thing with Thunderbird's mailboxes. The rest is just deduction from UNIX principles, formed into a kind of counter-question: Why (and how) should user data be saved within the application's directory structures? The update process will ONLY have effect on the files installed by the port. Are your user files mentioned in the corresponding control files of the port? Surely not - how could they? The port will only delete those files that are list as have been installed by the port, nothing more, nothing less. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Clearing ttyv0 after boot
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:11:56 -0500, Joe Snikeris j...@snikeris.com wrote: Hi all, As the subject suggests, I'd like to clear ttyv0 immediately after booting so that it looks exactly like the other ttys. I suspect I might have to add a local rc script, but I'm fairly new to FreeBSD and am not sure if this is the correct way to go. Does anyone have any pointers? You could add the command /usr/bin/tput clear as the last line (prior to exit 0) to /etc/rc - but it's not encouraged to modify this file because it can cause trouble on updating. But it will work. Note that you can still press the Scroll Lock key and see the messages that have been scrolled off the terminal. If you want, you can use an additional call to /usr/sbin/vidcontrol to clear the buffer. Refer to the vidcontrol manpage for how to do that. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade from Firefox 3.0 to Firefox 3.5
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:57:57 -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I suspect the real concern is not that the upgrade itself will wreck something, but that the upgraded FF may do something odd the first time it is fired up :( That's possible. At least, I don't think FF 3.x - 3.y will have such an impact. When I updated Opera, my favourite web browser, I didn't have problems with bookmarks, cookies, certificates and other stuff, but that doesn't imply anything to Firefox. Only solution: Trial and error. :-) One hopes that backing up ~/.mozilla would cover it. It does. In worst case, restore older Firefox and keep using the working settings. Otherwise, try to translate changed settings to the new Firefox version. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Recover deleted file
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:07:46 +0200, Morgan Wesström freebsd-questi...@pp.dyndns.biz wrote: sysutils/testdisk I haven't used it in FreeBSD but I have used it successfully in Linux to undelete files and folders on NTFS partitions. In worst case, there's always TSK (The Sleuth Kit), operating on a level lower than the file system. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange (repeatable) hang when ripping a CD
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:39:07 -0700, jw jwde...@gmail.com wrote: Jul 18 22:25:46 lumpy kernel: acd0: WARNING - TEST_UNIT_READY taskqueue timeout - completing request directly Jul 18 22:26:25 lumpy kernel: acd0: FAILURE - device detached Jul 18 22:26:25 lumpy kernel: acd0: WARNING - TEST_UNIT_READY freeing taskqueue zombie request [...] acd0: CDRW LITE-ON LTR-24102B/5S07 at ata0-slave UDMA33 Any ideas what is going on or how to fix it? It is nicely repeatable, at least. Maybe wrong cable (40 pin)? The device detached message doesn't look good. First of all, it shouzld at least be UDMA66. Maybe defective drive due to failing TUR taskqueuing? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scontrib
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:47:15 +1000, Brett Wiggins s0x...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi, I am installing an old version of FreeBSD (5.2) that I am using with the book 'The design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System - McKusick/Neville-Neil'. During the install there is an error saying that scontrib was unable to be retrieved from the install CD. Will this effect the system from running? the only thing I want from this install is access to the 5.2 source code. Please cc me if you reply to this question as I am not subscribed to this list. The contrib/ subtree contains various additional modules and libraries, such as amd/expat/ less/ ngatm/ smbfs/ bc/ file/ libbegemot/ ntp/tcp_wrappers/ bind9/ gcc/libf2c/ nvi/tcpdump/ binutils/ gcclibs/libobjc/one-true-awk/ tcsh/ bsnmp/ gdb/libpcap/openbsm/telnet/ bzip2/ gdtoa/ libreadline/openpam/texinfo/ com_err/gnu-sort/ libstdc++/ opie/ top/ cpio/ gperf/ lukemftp/ pam_modules/traceroute/ csup/ groff/ lukemftpd/ pf/ wpa_supplicant/ cvs/hostapd/ncurses/pnpinfo/ diff/ ipfilter/ netcat/ sendmail/ This is from a FreeBSD 7 installation. In 5.2, there is surely less stuff included. :-) Depending on what you want to do with accessing the source code, it may be valid to say that you can leave out scontrib, but as far as I remember, it will be needed for building things from the source code (make vuildworld and buildkernel). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scontrib
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:52:22 +1000, Brett Wiggins s0x...@netspace.net.au wrote: I want to be able to read and compile the source. I have looked at ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ For this purpose, I think you'll need the contrib/ subtree. but am unable to find an iso and am not sure how to make a iso or install cd from what is provided. There's the command make distribution in /usr/src. I have installed the system minus scontrib and it boots ok. Of course, it's only the sources (scontrib is part of the sources). Those are not needed for running the operating system. Would I be able to get the full source from the ftp-archive, exctract it to my FreeBSD system and then re-build and install the system? Yes, of course. First, download ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/5.2-RELEASE/src/scontrib* which is scontrib.aa ... scontrib.bb, along with install.sh. You can then use the command # ./install.sh contrib which will concatenate the archive parts scontrib.* and extract them info /usr/src (or any other place you may specify). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scontrib
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 03:59:30 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Since it has booted fine, you can also obtain the source from the SVN tree[1], assuming you can get devel/subversion to build on such an old version. It's no problem to install cvsup-without-gui from ports or use the csup utility (I think it was already present in 5.2) to use the # make update way from within /usr/src - with correctly setup supfiles, of course, but that's quite easy. Put this into /etc/make.conf: SUP_UPDATE=yes SUP=/usr/bin/csup SUPFLAGS=-g -L 2 SUPHOST=cvsup.freebsd.org SUPFILE=/etc/sup/standard.sup Or change the SUP line, if you've installed cvsup-without-gui to SUP=/usr/local/bin/cvsup Then create /etc/sup directory and create the following standard.sup file (which controls what will be subject to update): *default host=cvsup.freebsd.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_0 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all You can change cvsup.freebsd.org into a mirror near you. Check the correct setting for RELENG_5_2_0 (equals 5.2-RELEASE, if I see this correctly) or any other version you want to obtain (such as 5.2 with security patches, latest of 5.x, generally latest). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Strange (repeatable) hang when ripping a CD
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:05:19 -0700, jw jwde...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, thanks for the 'bad cable' idea. I've seen this error on systems where the manufacturer / composer had chosen a 40 pin cable because of economy reasons. Hard diks and optical disc drives that could run as UMDA66 or even UDMA100 would show up as UDMA33 and run slowly and / or buggy. Putting in the recommended 80 pin cable usually solved the problem. In fact, even the so called 80 pin cable has only 40 pins on the plugs, but 80 wires connecting them. :-) I replaced the (brand new) cable and it's working, now. Previously, it was the right kind, it must have just been flakey. Judging from today's quality hardware... that's quite possible. The device still shows as UDMA33 though. Don't know if that represents a different problem. Maybe the drive isn't faster, so it's no problem. You can always check the drive's capabilities with these commands: # atacontrol cap acd0 If you've loaded the atapicam facility (via kldload or compiled into your kernel), you can as well use this: # camcontrol devlist # camcontrol inquiry 1:0:0 If you're already using cdrtools from the ports, there's another means of diagnostics: # cdrecord -scanbus # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 -inq # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 -prcap Odd that it would have read a mounted CD just fine through the bad cable... Maybe this is due to the error correction that is included in the data CD format (ISO-9660) which has a different block size than the audio CD format (2048 vs. 2352). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Odd behavior after installing a tape drive
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:43:29 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: I'm no expert on tape drives either, but I was sure that losing a SCSI device is a bad thing for SCSI -- think of it as an IDE drive. you don't just go pulling power or data from a running, booted computer. With SCSI, hot plug is usually not that problematic as with modern ATA and SATA on the PC. Anyway, using # camcontrol stop unit before switching off or detaching a SCSI component is often a good idea. All the devices in a computer are on, stays on, until the system shuts down. SCSI allows you to have internal devices outside the computer, connected with a cable. In principle, it doesn't even matter if a hard disk is inside the computer or outside, same for optical disc drives, tape drives, and even scanners. Hot plug has always been a nice feature of SCSI, even 10 or more years ago, where you couldn't imagine something similar in the PC world. The PTY/SCSI subject of your email should be unrelated, but a abruptly missing device is never a positive outcome for an OS. Think about the old removing a mounted USB drive = panic issue we've dealt with for years. Or /dev/mem: device disappeared. :-) I am questioning your reasoning behind turning off a tape drive on a live system. I would never recommend that. As I said, if you do it the SCSI way, it's completely unproblematic. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Samba PDC with LDAP backend
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:50:48 +0800, Ruel Luchavez ruel.free...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Olivier Nicole o...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: I know this is running slapd_flags='-h \ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ ldap://0.0.0.0/ ldap://127.0.0.1/\;' as is issue a command ps -aux | grep slap, hers whats the box give to me #ps -aux | grep slap ldap 1273 0.0 6.6 341992 7816 ?? Is4:17PM 0:00.14 /usr/local/libexec/slapd -h ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ ldaps://127.0.0.1/ ldap://192.168.5.200/ -u l I see no ldaps:// in the command, but one in the ps, that is strange! Olivier Hey What do you mean you dont see no ldaps:// slapd_flags: f1 = ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ f2 = ldap://0.0.0.0/ f3 = ldap://127.0.0.1/ ps output: p1 = ldapi://%2fvar%2frun%2fopenldap%2fldapi/ p2 = ldaps://127.0.0.1/ p3 = ldap://192.168.5.200/ Compage f3 to p2: ldap://127.0.0.1/ vs. ldaps://127.0.0.1/ -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: K3b-DVD
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:39:45 -0500, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: I did try to burn data DVD with my NEC DVD ND-1300A but I got an error: :-( Media is not formatted or unsupported Write error Check if your drive really supports DVD-R (allthoug it obviously should) by running this command: # cdrecord -scanbus # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 -inq # cdrecord dev=1,0,0 -prcap The cdrecord program is part of the cdrtools port / package. growisofs --- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/pass4 obs=32k seek=0' /dev/pass4: Current Write Speed is 1.0x1352KBps. :-[ wr...@lba=0h failed with SK=5h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Invalid argument :-( media is not formatted or unsupported. :-( write failed: Invalid argument growisofs command: --- /usr/local/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/cd0=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:1930464 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m Check if the growisofs command alone produces the same error messages (just to make sure it's not a K3B problem): # growisofs -Z /dev/cd0 -r -J some files here Check permissions for the cd and pass devices. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: K3b-DVD
On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:29:20 -0500, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the help. I don't know what is wrong still. I did burn DVD on FreeBSD 7.2 and before that on Linux. Now I have FreeBSD 7.2 (no ther OS) but it doesn't work. Did you always use K3B? Have you changed permissions on the device files? And finally: Are you sure that you are really using a blank DVD-R that is not defective? I'm asking because I was that clever myself to try to write to a defective media. :-) cdrecord -scanbus 2,0,0 200) '_NEC' 'DVD_RW ND-1300A ' '1.06' Removable CD-ROM [...] cdrecord dev=2,0,0 -prcap Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A: Does write CD-R media Does write CD-RW media Does write DVD-R media Okay, this indicates it writed DVD-R. Additionally, it doesn't seem to be able to write DVD+R. Again, check for the appropriate media. Everything else looks completely valid. Have you tried to use plain growisofs in order to check that it's not a K3B problem? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: backticks in rc.conf
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:46:47 +0100, chris scott kra...@googlemail.com wrote:
can i use backticks in rc.conf?
Basically, yes. The /etc/rc.conf file is run through sh, it is
a shell script that assigns values to variables, but can (ab)use
it to execute programs.
rsyncd_flags=--config=/etc/rsyncd.conf --address=` ifconfig bce1 | grep
inet | awk '{print $2}'`
it works fine from the shell, however on reboot the address section doesnt
expand, or rather it goes blank
You should use the full pathnames leading to ifconfig, grep, and awk.
Make sure they are accessible when rc.conf is executed.
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Re: K3b-DVD
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:18:14 -0500, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: in /etc/devfs.conf: Commonly used by many ports linkacd0cdrom linkacd0dvd linkcd0 cdrom linkcd0 dvd All four lines? Where do /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom actually point to? The devices should be cd0, not acd0. The growisofs program utilizes /dev/cd0 for burning via the atapicam facility - I'm sure you have loaded it. # K3b perm/dev/acd0 0666 perm/dev/cd00666 I'm not sure the /dev/ prefix is needed... permcdrom 0666 permdvd 0666 permxpt00666 permpass4 0666 For comparison: I have linkacd0cdrom linkcd0 dvd only, and permissions own cd0 root:operator permcd0 0664 own xpt0root:operator permxpt00660 own pass0 root:operator permpass0 0660 I added my username to the operator group (and wheel), so I can have power on the devices needed for burning. Have you done this, too? and in /etc/fstab: /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/cd0/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 I don't know why you are employing cd0 and acd0 in parallel. You can use cd0 for everything. I'm using the acd driver only for reading CDs and DVDs, but for recording them, cd0 is used. So the corresponding entries in my /etc/fstab is this: /dev/acd0/media/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Allthough it looks like a medium error, it's still possible that it is a permission problem, and growisofs is showing this problem. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gutenprint and lpd
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:26:21 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Gould andrewgo...@yahoo.com wrote: Is there a way to use gutenprint drivers with lpd when the printer definition is not in the foomatic database? A problem is that CUPS seems to replace the default printer spooler mechanism. There are settings in /etc/rc.conf that have to be done in order to use CUPS and leave the lpd facility of the BSD system aside. Is there something special I need to do for applications to see CUPS printers? No. CUPS defines a printer name or uses the default lp. You can set the environmental variable PRINTER to point to the default printer. CUPS works as a printer filter, called driver in MICROS~1 land. Input data is given to this filter, and it translates it into the natural language of the printer. This data is then handed to the printer spooler's waiting queue, and finally transmitted into the printer when it's online and ready. As an example, I have apsfilter as a printer filter which creates PCL from any input data (using gs) from any application. My printer has the name Laserjet (a HP Laserjet 4000 duplex). I'm using FreeBSD's printer spooler. In your case: You surely want to solve the potential problem of concurrent printer spoolers - those of the system (/usr/bin/lp*) and those of CUPS (/usr/local/bin/lp*). I think there's documentation around in the FreeBSD Handbook in the Printing section. Personally, I dislike CUPS, but it seems to be the only way to get unprinters work on FreeBSD - modern egg-laying woolmilksows that do not conform to any standards... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: make installkernel KERNCONF= faults with error
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:11:14 +0300, Anton an...@sng.by wrote: Hello freebsd-questions, It says that there is no libbsm Check that all your sorces are complete and of the same version. The libbsm is part of openbsm - /usr/src/contrib/openbsm/. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports and package creation Automation
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:50:23 -0400, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: I believe you are looking for the following: make package make package-recursive If you're using portupgrade / portinstall, the -p option should be a good choice: -p --package Build a package when each specified port is installed or upgraded. If a package is upgraded and its dependent packages are given from the com- mand line (including the case where -r is speci- fied), build packages for them as well. As well as for for make package, packages are stored in the /usr/ports/packages/ directory. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't login to the system...!
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:56:35 +0300, thanos trompoukis atr0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am a noobie here. I was in the system as root and I type this command: chsh -s usr/local/bin/bash (without reason,by mistake) when I reboot the system I give username password and I see this: login: usr/local/bin/bash: No such file or directory FreeBSD/i386 (leonidas.MSHOME) (ttyv0) login: But I can access the system as another user, and when I type *su* I can login as root fine. I have no idea what i've done. Give me your lights please. Just change back the shell to the standard dialog shell, which is the C shell /bin/csh. If you intendedly want to use a different shell when working as root, consider using the toor account and change the shell of toor. Do not change the shell of root. Login as any user. Then: % su root Password: # chsh ... change back to csh ... # exit % exit Now you can login as root again. Note that you missed the leading / in the BASH name, as the login message states: login: usr/local/bin/bash: No such file or directory ^ The correct path is /usr/local/bin/bash. And you can use this path for toor, no problem at all. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Restarting hal
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:43:50 -0400, Bob Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to get hal to reload its configuration withou rebooting? I've tried sending a HUP signal and I've tried rc.d/hal restart, but so far rebooting is the only thing that works properly. Maybe it's neccessary to restart DBUS as well - just a wild guess, im not using DBUS or HAL because I like my X working. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: OT: web-based applications and security...
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:05:00 -0600, Modulok modu...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me being paranoid, or is all this 'online' and 'live' aka web-based applications and data storage like... the biggest security threat in the Universe? No. The biggest security threat is the human nature, participating in operating these facilities. Not only from the perspective of the company offering said services selling you out, but also in the fact that it creates a high-value target (tons of data in one place) for the entire world to try and exploit. Gaining information, especially those that have a certain worth (such as corporate data), is one important goal of criminals across the whole Internet. Offering opportunities, given by the fact that such online live storage clients and servers run MICROS~1 software (which is very well known for its high quality, haha), may turn such data silos into interesting targets. I'm sure that criminals have already found out about this fact, they're just waiting for more and more corporate decision carriers to adopt to all these modern techniques: If we store our valueable data on those web servers, it will save us backup costs! Maybe they're just waiting for some data to arrive where conventional espionage and sabotage would be too complicated. It's always nice when your victim delivers the loot willingly, isn't it? In fact, the situation you described isn't quite new. For many years now, data is stored on servers that are connected to the Internet, delivering certain services to the users. With the goal of decentralized computing, processing and working, the in-house solution seems to get less and less important. Thoughts? Yes. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Restarting hal
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:39 -0400, Bob Hall rjh...@gmail.com wrote: Aside from the ctrl-alt-bksp bug, this has been the easiest X setup I've ever done. I've tried it with and without hal and both are easy to set up. Given my level of ignorance, that's saying something. I've seen a lot of complaints about Xorg's new system, but I like it. I'm sure it works very well on up-to-date hardware, but on older hardware, where all the autodetect magic won't work properly, problems may occur. Furthermore, if you need to have a non-standard keyboard layout, e. g. the german one, this has to be set in a different place now. As far as I know, HAL and DBUS, along with FreeBSD 8, work very well for different automounting scenarios (CD, DVD, USB). Soon I will encounter the joy of the new X modularity and dependencies. :-) It's still worth mentioning that it's possible to run X in the old fashioned way, but DBUS and HAL have to be excluded at compile time. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Moxa 8-port serial multiplexor, how-to
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0500, Doug Poland d...@polands.org wrote: After reading the handbook(26.2) and man puc(4), sio(4). man sio(4) talks about adding /boot/device.hints but not for my particular hardware. I'm at a loss on how to continue. Suggestions, pointers, URLs welcome. The file is /boot/device.hints. For each serial port, the following dataset has to be completed: hint.sio.N.at=isa hint.sio.N.port=0x3F8 ---+ hint.sio.N.flags=0x10 ---+--- set up hint.sio.N.irq=4---+ Still, I don't know how to determine the correct addresses and IRQs, maybe the documentation belonging to the expansion card can help... If I see this correctly, each serial port should then be visible as a /dev/cuadN device file. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
