Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos1.44Boot Floppy

2011-01-17 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Garry,

 A while back someone asked about getting a ISO image, or a floopy bootdisk 
 1.44mb

Did somebody suggest

http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/

already? It is from 1 year ago and available as 1-3 floppy
bootdisks of 1.44mb each. You can also download a combined
2.88mb boot image based on the first two floppies :-).

 I took the liberty to make these images, hope it is ok,..

Of course :-)

 they worked fine on my computer, and also when I downloaded them and useing 
 POWERISO
  ver.3.7 http://www.poweriso.com copied to a floppy , still boot fine.
  I did not try burning these to  CD,...there are 2 disks, one has a
  few utilitys, such as edit, keyb,..the other is just a boot disk,
  thats all it dose is boot, one could build a batch file, etc,
  with it...as it dose have the basic, command.com kernel and sys.

Sounds interesting.

 I would be interested in know how they work on any other computers,
  but also am not responsible for anything. So any way if anyone can

As long as you are interested in improving them :-p

  use these,they are welcome to get them.
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBootWithutilities.daa
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBoot.daa

I assume DAA only works with Poweriso? How about 1:1 raw floppy
images or simple ISO files for the CD case?

 I also have the same, in a .bif form, but did not post the link,
  also drop box, as in this form they still have to be converted to a 
image,..

 Any way hope someone finds these useful, and like I said, I would
  really like to know how they work on others computers, or don't,
  if they don't. My computer is IBM, I made the disks simply useing
  the /s in the format, then I added the edit and a few other files,

You get more flexibility using SYS after format.

  to the one. So I don't know ,they might not boot on other machines..

That would probably depend on drivers, but most DOS things are generic.

  I am curious about this. Thats all for now, from Garry

Thanks! Regards, Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread Santiago Almenara
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Mike Eriksen thinstation.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi!
  I have set up my FreeDOS PC and everthing is working just fine except for
  the audio (ok I pray to God someday there will be a way to play DOS games
  with sound under plain DOS)
  Now I want to connect this PC to a Windows/SMB share to speed the file
  transfer. Right now, I have to burn a CDRW in one machine and use it in
 the
  FreeDOS PC.
  What I think I need in my DOS PC:
  1. A network card (duh!)
  2. A driver for the card
  3. A packet driver for the card
  4. mTCP (for DHCP)
  5. some software to connect the DOS to SMB.

 IMHO, not quite so. 2 and 3 is one point, If you can't get a packet
 driver for your NIC, you are forced to fight with NIDIS 2. Have fun...
 Ad 5) Well, depends... Windows for Workgroups ( and the DOS add-on
 DOS for Workgroups) originally worked through the NETBEUI protocol,
 not TCP. From win95 and forward a parallel TCP communication channel
 got added to Windows Networking. So even though you can get TCP up
 and running with FD, you still need a FD front end to translate
 NETBEUI net use * \\server\share into TCP. Such a front end may
 exist, but I don't know one.


Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet
driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly.
Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share
through TCP/IP.

The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to
install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try
NFS.
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[Freedos-user] Emulating FreeDOS

2011-01-17 Thread the bcpino
Hi!

Please if you find this topic too Offtopic, please tell me, I won't insist.

Have you tried Qemu? I have been using it without problems before I
tried to configure the network.

- Network

Basically, Qemu have two options (RTL8139 and NE2000 ISA). Do you use
any of those under Qemu?

RTL8139 works fines under other OS, however the DOS packet drivers
hangs the system.
In the other hand, the NE2000 (ne2k_isa) packet driver, I can even use
DHCP, but I can't ping or try to connect to anything.

RTL8139: qemu -hda freedos.img -net nic,model=rtl8139 -net user
NE2000: qemu -hda freedos.img -net nic,model=ne2k_isa -net user -M isapc

Do use FreeDOS networking under qemu?

- DOS Idling

Under MS-DOS a idler is needed to avoid the guest DOS use many cycles
in the host PC. Do FreeDOS have the same problem and needs dosidle.

Thanks,

Bcpino

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDos1.44Boot Floppy

2011-01-17 Thread Robert Riebisch
Eric Auer wrote:

 I assume DAA only works with Poweriso? How about 1:1 raw floppy
 images or simple ISO files for the CD case?

An older DOS port of DAA2ISO is available from my site:
http://www.bttr-software.de/ports/

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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Santiago,

 Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet
 driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly.
 Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share
 through TCP/IP.

Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it?
I mean what you installed and which config files you had
to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-)

 The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to
 install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try
 NFS.

Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP?
Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and
the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-)

Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread mbbrutman
Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de:


 Hi Santiago,

 Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet
 driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly.
 Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share
 through TCP/IP.

 Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it?
 I mean what you installed and which config files you had
 to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-)

I second that motion - I've never used NDIS and a shim before and  
I'd like to see how that is done.


 The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to
 install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try
 NFS.

 Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP?
 Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and
 the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-)

 Eric


If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get  
wget done?


Mike


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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread cordata02
With all the discussion on mTCP it seems this package is getting a lot of 
attention.

Is there any update as to when we might be able to get source or even just a 
binary library?

 

 


 

 

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Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 2:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share


Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de:





 Hi Santiago,



 Update: I installed easily the NDIS2 drivers for my card, then the packet

 driver wrapper. mTCP is working perfectly.

 Right now, I am trying TCP's MS CLIENT 3.0 to connect to the SMB share

 through TCP/IP.



 Nice! Maybe you could email a summary of how you did it?

 I mean what you installed and which config files you had

 to edit in which way to make MTCP work via NDIS etc :-)



I second that motion - I've never used NDIS and a shim before and  

I'd like to see how that is done.





 The SMB share is actually a Dlink NAS, I can use NFS too, but I have to

 install some modules before. I'll try a little more for SMB and then try

 NFS.



 Interesting. I assume you can also access the NAS via FTP or even HTTP?

 Samba sounds okay for me, but of course the choice between MSCLIENT and

 the ported Linux Samba command line tool smbclient is not that big :-)



 Eric





If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get  

wget done?





Mike





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Re: [Freedos-user] Emulating FreeDOS

2011-01-17 Thread Eric Auer

Hi Bcpino,

 - DOS Idling

 Under MS-DOS a idler is needed to avoid the guest DOS use many cycles
 in the host PC. Do FreeDOS have the same problem and needs dosidle.

Ironically, at some point you had to avoid using idlers such as
fdapm apmdos in Bochs, because it tried to be too smart ;-)

To be exact, when you did HLT to reduce CPU load, Bochs simply
was happy to be able to simulate faster, so some games etc went
too fast while you had idling drivers active.

However, I think most virtual computers, including Dosemu, now
save host CPU load if you use idling drivers inside DOS, so I
would generally recommend them. The FreeDOS kernel even has a
(minimalistic / simple) built-in idling function which you can
activate via fdconfig.sys or config.sys - it needs no extra RAM.

The command for that is IDLEHALT=1 Possible values: 0, 1, 2, 3
for none, normal, Windows-silent, Windows-visible where the two
last values refer to the int 2f.1680 release time slice call.
This may change in the future. Still, 0 is none, more is more.

Other fun FreeDOS config.sys extensions are VERSION=xx.x and
ANYDOS=1, SCREEN=xx (for example 0x12 for 8x8 font, 50 lines)
Those and more are explained in the config.txt file :-)

Regards, Eric


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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread Mike Eriksen
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM,  mbbrut...@brutman.com wrote:
 Quoting Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de:
[CUT]
 If most NAS boxes do HTTP, is this the reason/motivation I need to get
 wget done?

+1!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Connecting FreeDOS to a SMB share

2011-01-17 Thread mbbrutman
Quoting cordat...@aol.com:

 With all the discussion on mTCP it seems this package is getting a  
 lot of attention.

 Is there any update as to when we might be able to get source or  
 even just a binary library?

Short story - working on it.

Longer story ..  it's all my original code and I have copyright to it.  
  However, the large corporation that pays me insists on approving any  
open source contributions.  (Which is reasonable.)  So you can imagine  
the look on people's faces when I said I want to start a new open  
source project, for DOS.  I seriously don't think they know what to  
do. :-)

A binary library is possible and I originally started down that path,  
but it makes more sense to just have people include the original  
source code and directly compile and link in everything they need.   
Otherwise they wind up dealing with whatever compromises were compiled  
into the library.

It is all evolving as I learn ..


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[Freedos-user] Full Networked FreeDOS image for VirtualBox

2011-01-17 Thread Ulrich Hansen
Hi list!

I have built a special FreeDOS 1.0 image for Virtualbox:

Networking should be much easier with this image. The appropriate 
packet driver for Virtualbox is already loaded at boot. So file 
exchange between host and client over the network shouldn't be a 
problem any more.

The image and an installation walkthrough can be found at:

http://lazybrowndog.net/freedos/virtualbox

Please feel free to download and play with it!

It would be great to get some feedback. Please send improvements. IMHO 
the memory management could be better, especially with MS Client loaded.

Thanks! Happy hacking ;-)
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[Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 415 FreeDos1.44Boot Floppy (Eric Auer)

2011-01-17 Thread Garrison Ricketson
Freedos-user Digest, Vol 415,
7. Re: FreeDos1.44Boot Floppy (Eric Auer)
Did somebody suggest
http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/

already? It is from 1 year ago and available as 1-3 floppy
bootdisks of 1.44mb each. You can also download a combined
2.88mb boot image based on the first two floppies :-).
 I took the liberty to make these images, hope it is ok,..
Of course :-)
 they worked fine on my computer, and also when I downloaded them and useing 
 POWERISO
 ver.3.7 http://www.poweriso.com copied to a floppy , still boot fine.
 I did not try burning these to  CD,...there are 2 disks, one has a
 few utilitys, such as edit, keyb,..the other is just a boot disk,
 thats all it dose is boot, one could build a batch file, etc,
 with it...as it dose have the basic, command_com kernel and sys.
Sounds interesting.
 I would be interested in know how they work on any other computers,
 but also am not responsible for anything. So any way if anyone can
As long as you are interested in improving them :-p
 use these,they are welcome to get them.
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBootWithutilities.daa
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBoot.daa
I assume DAA only works with Poweriso? How about 1:1 raw floppy
images or simple ISO files for the CD case?
 I also have the same, in a .bif form, but did not post the link,
 also drop box, as in this form they still have to be converted to a 
image,..
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From garry: Eric, thanks on this: http://sites.google.com/site/rugxulo/
 I had never noticed it before, if anybody did suggest it, but thats a great 
resource, I looked at the site, and it has alot to offer,..here are the other 
images, I made I guess they are what you call raw images:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBoot.bif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15387474/FreeDosBootWithutilities.bif
But to be honest I know very little about makeing ISO images,..
I am interested in improveing them, if I can,...
 Anyway, it looks like your site, or the one you've posted ,is much more 
complete, I think I could learn more from there, aslo I am going to add a link 
to it on mine, so I don't forget itif thats ok.
 Also, Thank you Robert, I already have the link to your site, but I had not 
ever noticed the /ports/:  An older DOS port of DAA2ISO is available from my 
site:
http://www.bttr-software.de/ports/
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 also an apology, in the previous e-mail, I did not realize writeing 
command dot com , with the . would cause it to show as a link, to some kind of 
wall hanging site,...so sorry about that.
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