OS X.4 DVD on Wallstreet II

[Michael Dolberry]

I have been playing around with upgrading to X.4 on my
Wallstreets, using the new XPostFacto4. But I have run
into a snag.

I suspect that it is hopeless, but just wanted to
check.
 
Using the new XPostFacto 4, I can load the software
and recognize the DVD, even in OS 10.2. But when it
tries to load from the DVD at restart, it keeps
waiting for data, which the help site interprets as
"Not able to read the media".
 
I know that the DVD-decoder is not supposed to work in
OS X, but it appears to work in OS X.2. (I guess I
need to try to watch a movie and see.)
 
Does anyone have any further ideas or information, or
possibly a work-around which doesn't involve swapping
the drive? I can't try firewire mode. No firewire.
 
Just curious, before I tell the wife and teen, it's a
NO GO.
 
Shel


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Matt Halter]

I don't have my OS X handbook with me but I remember reading about a 
problem with OS 9 not being able to boot.  I don't remember the 
solution but I know there was one.  If I can get to my book tomorrow 
I'll send you the info.  In the meantime, I've had several computers 
with OS X not want to boot off the 9 disk.  A re-install(not a clean 
install) of X took care of the problem sometimes.  Also, try resetting 
the power manager and pram. A couple weeks ago my wife's Wallstreet 
wouldn't boot from anything and out of desperation I reset the PM and 
pram and got it to at least begin booting off a CD.  Can't explain why 
that worked, but may be worth a try if you haven't already.

As an aside--Most of my mac using friends feel it is asking for trouble 
installing X over 9.  They all recommend wiping the disk and starting 
fresh.  I was a doubter, but the more I see, the more I think they may 
be right.

Matt

On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 11:59  PM, Krevnik wrote:



From: nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

yes on both...it does mount fineand work on other computers...and
before i installed os X on my computer i had os 9 working
perfictlythen (of course) it would boot into nine and onto a 9
cd...this only started now that i have os X on my HD...
Hmm, so you did install onto the Wallstreet with the CD before 
installing X?
Or did you use a separate CD? The thing is, if you cannot boot using 
the CD
you installed 9 with... then there is a problem with the CD or your 
CD-ROM
drive.

It does sound like your HD is going south though... the best way to 
check is
to boot off the 10.2.x Install CD and run Disk Utility, or from the OS 
9 CD
(Catch-22) and run Disk Utility.

- Adam

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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Krevnik]

> From: nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> yes on both...it does mount fineand work on other computers...and
> before i installed os X on my computer i had os 9 working
> perfictlythen (of course) it would boot into nine and onto a 9
> cd...this only started now that i have os X on my HD...

Hmm, so you did install onto the Wallstreet with the CD before installing X?
Or did you use a separate CD? The thing is, if you cannot boot using the CD
you installed 9 with... then there is a problem with the CD or your CD-ROM
drive.

It does sound like your HD is going south though... the best way to check is
to boot off the 10.2.x Install CD and run Disk Utility, or from the OS 9 CD
(Catch-22) and run Disk Utility.

- Adam


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[nick]

yes on both...it does mount fineand work on other computers...and 
before i installed os X on my computer i had os 9 working 
perfictlythen (of course) it would boot into nine and onto a 9 
cd...this only started now that i have os X on my HD...

i dont think that anything has happend to my cd drive since then 
becouse it is the same one and it does everything else the same...

n

On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 08:47 pm, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

Have you ever been to boot from that CD? Maybe it's damaged? Or maybe 
your
CD or DVD drive has problem? It's hard to tell, but if the Mac reboots 
in 9,
it definitely doesn't like something with the CD, be it the media 
itself or
the drive reading the media. Did you try inserting the CD once booted 
in OS
X? Does it mount OK?

-Laurent.


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 31/08/03 22:43, nick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> well it is the os 9 boot cd that came when i orderd os 10and since
> i never had to specify a  computer im guessing its as generic as you
> get
> how would i check my hard drive??? could it be a firmware
> thing..the harddrive was upgraded when i got my wallstreat  and has
> been giving me all sorts of problems ever since..the guy that owned
> it before me diddent know much about this stuffcouse he put a 512mb
> ram in it and it can only reconise 256
> so im guessing he diddent do something wright after he swapped the old
> hd for a 20 gig toshiba
> can anyone think on how id fix it??
> 
> n
> 
> when i try to boot into nine it starts up, shows the happy
> computer...then the screen goes all weird and flickery then it boots up
> into 10

Have you ever been to boot from that CD? Maybe it's damaged? Or maybe your
CD or DVD drive has problem? It's hard to tell, but if the Mac reboots in 9,
it definitely doesn't like something with the CD, be it the media itself or
the drive reading the media. Did you try inserting the CD once booted in OS
X? Does it mount OK?

-Laurent.
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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[nick]

well it is the os 9 boot cd that came when i orderd os 10and since 
i never had to specify a  computer im guessing its as generic as you 
get
how would i check my hard drive??? could it be a firmware 
thing..the harddrive was upgraded when i got my wallstreat  and has 
been giving me all sorts of problems ever since..the guy that owned 
it before me diddent know much about this stuffcouse he put a 512mb 
ram in it and it can only reconise 256
so im guessing he diddent do something wright after he swapped the old 
hd for a 20 gig toshiba
can anyone think on how id fix it??

n

when i try to boot into nine it starts up, shows the happy 
computer...then the screen goes all weird and flickery then it boots up 
into 10

On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 08:06 pm, Krevnik wrote:

Well, you will need a generic 9.x install CD... ones that come with a
specific machine (other than your Wallstreet) will not boot. The DVD 
player
will not run from Classic, because it needs access to the hardware, 
which
Classic does not provide.

You will need a generic 9.x install CD and install (you might want to 
check
your HD too, since the 'not able to boot 9' problem sounds BAD).


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Krevnik]

Well, you will need a generic 9.x install CD... ones that come with a
specific machine (other than your Wallstreet) will not boot. The DVD player
will not run from Classic, because it needs access to the hardware, which
Classic does not provide.

You will need a generic 9.x install CD and install (you might want to check
your HD too, since the 'not able to boot 9' problem sounds BAD).

> From: nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> will the dvd player run in classic mode??? i am asking this becouse i
> just orderd a dvd player  and decoder for my wallstreet...and my
> wallstreat will not boot into mac os9!! ak
> anyone know either how to get it to boot into nine or if you have tried
> to do it in classic please tell me!!


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[nick]

will the dvd player run in classic mode??? i am asking this becouse i 
just orderd a dvd player  and decoder for my wallstreet...and my 
wallstreat will not boot into mac os9!! ak
anyone know either how to get it to boot into nine or if you have tried 
to do it in classic please tell me!!

ps my computer will not boot off my 9 partition when i set it in the 
startup disk..even though that partition works in classic 
mode...and it will not even boot of a os9 boot cd thet works fine on an 
imac!!

n

On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 03:34 pm, Krevnik wrote:

Sorry, but the Wallstreet and Lombard cannot play DVDs in OS X. OS X 
uses
the video card for DVD playback (so no PC Card decoders will work), 
and the
RagePro LT is woefully underpowered for that sort of thing... (And 
Apple has
incomplete LT drivers, as you probably know by now)


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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Krevnik]

Sorry, but the Wallstreet and Lombard cannot play DVDs in OS X. OS X uses
the video card for DVD playback (so no PC Card decoders will work), and the
RagePro LT is woefully underpowered for that sort of thing... (And Apple has
incomplete LT drivers, as you probably know by now)

> From: Emery Stora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have the DVD card and the DVD/CD drive.  I was able to play DVDs
> fine but then I put on OSX (Jaguar) and 9.2.2.  I can no longer get
> my DVD to work.  When I click on DVD Player it gives me Error 3.
> 
> Is anyone else using the DVD card on the Wallstreet and might be able
> to tell me what to try to get it working again.  Thanks.


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DVD on Wallstreet

[Emery Stora]

I have the DVD card and the DVD/CD drive.  I was able to play DVDs 
fine but then I put on OSX (Jaguar) and 9.2.2.  I can no longer get 
my DVD to work.  When I click on DVD Player it gives me Error 3.

Is anyone else using the DVD card on the Wallstreet and might be able 
to tell me what to try to get it working again.  Thanks.
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Re: DVD on Wallstreet

[Hottentot]

Occasionally on my Wallstreet the cards would eject while the mechanism
would remain "cocked" as it were. The solution was to use a paperclip in
the eject hole when the slot was empty. This allows the card to be inserted.

Keith


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>I am having difficulty inserting a DVD decoder card into my Wallstreet.
>I fell the resistance however it does not lock into place.  Anybody have
>previous experience with these cards?
>
>Jeff



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DVD on Wallstreet

[Jeff Spray]

I am having difficulty inserting a DVD decoder card into my Wallstreet.
I fell the resistance however it does not lock into place.  Anybody have
previous experience with these cards?

Jeff



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