Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have just recently switched to a G5. Before that, I have been using a PM G4 DA (upgraded with a 1.4 GHz CPU) for many years, and I just loved it. Apart from some slugginess with Adobe CS3 and when browsing, it was still just fine. If the G5 wasn't for free :-D I'd still be using the G4. Gaming, of course, is a different thing. There, the newer the better. I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'd say that OSX loves Ram. Having 1GB Ram might improve speed (especially if you have several open apps at the same time). I think you can easily find PC133 SDRAM sticks for free or almost, nowadays. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. People criticizing just because someone is doing things differently than them, are just plain annoying. You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same. (Jonathan Davis) PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. You're english is pretty good. :-) Although I'm Italian myself, so I should't know. :-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
I have used my 2002 Quicksilver G4 (867 MHz, Mac OS X 10.5.8) everyday for about the past 9 years. It does everything I need -- e-mail, web browsing, music, video and photography. I use NeoOffice as my document processor, presentation maker, and for spreadsheets. I am quite happy with it! On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM, gira93 diskce...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Are powermac g4 still useful? Date:Tuesday, 03. January 2012 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I can't understand your concern. Am I missing something? Number of download seems increasing to me. Considering only the RC/final 4 versions (G3, G4x2, G5): TFF 4.0.1 = 19904 TFF 7.0 = 20703 TFF 8.0 = 22334 I for one downloaded TenFourFox in *all* its optimized builds, because I do have a G3, G4s (both kinds: 7400 and 7450) and G5s. So, 1) technically you should only count me once. And 2) I am sure that some people downloaded it twice. I’d estimate no more than 10,000 TenFourFox users, which is then in return a good estimate of users still running PowerPC-based Macs. On the other side there are some million Firefox users. Don’t get me wrong. I’d say that 10,000 is enough to keep the developement going, and I’m very very grateful and happy that Cameron Kaiser and Floodgap Systems is doing all the work. I love the idea of having an AltiVec-optimized WebM engine on my PowerMac, and the faster JavaScript interpreter, which makes me wonder where it has been all these years before TenFourFox! I didn't consider TFF 9, because it's still work in progress. DL numbers seem going up, though. Version 9.0 is current, you should update immediately as it closes a few security holes and fixes some bugs. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
On Jan 3, 2012, at 12:58 PM, gira93 wrote: Are powermac g4 still useful? I use a PowerMac G4 MDD 1.42Hhz every day and it does everything I want and relatively fast, almost as fast as my wife's Intel iMac. I use PhotoShop, Filemaker Pro, iWork, iMovie HD and Peak LE to name a few applications. I can see no valid reason to upgrade. OS 10.5.8 2 GB ram Firewire 800 built-in USB 2 PCI card ATI Radeon 9600 Graphics Card Sonnet Tempo Serial ATA card with two 1 TB hard drives attached One 320 ATA GB PATA Hard drive Samsung SyncMaster930b display My peripherals are: Epson 3200 scanner M-Audio Firewire Audiophile Minolta Dimage Dual Scan IV Lexmark E232 printer Nick -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Of Course G4s are still usefull, if they weren't people like me and other wouldn't took time to write this FAQ (on how to get most things done on powerpc macs) http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1091765 and this site: http://powerpcusers.com/ I would love to use mine everyday, but I am a student, and most of the time I am on library,etc... It's quiet, and runs fine most of the needed apps: Powermac Sawtooth G4 @ Sonnet 1.2GHz 1.5Gb Ram Geforce 6200 256Mb 500Gb Samsung F3 HDD @A-CARD 6290M PCI Sata Conceptronic WIFI N PCI Card (Ralink chipset) USB Bluetooth (1 dollar from ebay) NEC PCI USB (5 dollars on ebay) Apple Pro Kb+Logitech M505 Hp W1907v Enjoy your powermac, if it fits your needs why you should be crazy? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Your English is very good! If it works for you, tell them to blow off. ;^) G4 MDD Dual 1.0GHz (10.4.11) here is barely adequate, have to continually change my YouTube resolution to 360, but it works fine for Word and most other things. I plan on upgrading, but only because I feel its limitations. If you don't, ignore those 'other' folks. ;^) Ciao, - Peter - Original Message - From: gira93 diskce...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 9:40:05 AM Subject: Are powermac g4 still useful? Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Crazy? You'd be crazy only if it didn't do what you needed and made you miserable. (Which certainly makes the case for most windows users, but I digress.) I still have my MDD G4s and they're very useful. They still rip DVDs, browse the web, transcode video to work on my TiVo, and run iTunes to load my iPod. As long as it works, be happy. By the way, have a plan for when it fails. At some point, the power supply will die and you'll want to transfer files to a new machine. I have 5 G4s in the house, 2 have died so far. On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93 diskce...@gmail.com wrote: I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just because i use such an old mac for the everyday use. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93 diskce...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. Your English is great! Everyday use is exactly what older computers are great for. Email, Internet surfing, word processing, most YouTube (with the right tricks), there is nothing they won't do. The kind of people who say that is usually the kind of people who won't watch a Fellini movie because it's old... Ciao, Felix -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
On Jan 2, 2012, at 2:54 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Crazy? You'd be crazy only if it didn't do what you needed and made you miserable. (Which certainly makes the case for most windows users, but I digress.) I still have my MDD G4s and they're very useful. They still rip DVDs, browse the web, transcode video to work on my TiVo, and run iTunes to load my iPod. As long as it works, be happy. By the way, have a plan for when it fails. At some point, the power supply will die and you'll want to transfer files to a new machine. I have 5 G4s in the house, 2 have died so far. On Jan 2, 12:40 pm, gira93 diskce...@gmail.com wrote: I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just because i use such an old mac for the everyday use. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
2012/1/2 gira93 diskce...@gmail.com Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. I am still working occasionaly with a G3 350. No problem. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:40 AM, gira93 wrote: Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? I routinely use a MDD G4 with dual CPUs. I do CAD work and software development on it for embedded systems. It's not my main machine, that's a MacBook Pro. Many days I use the G4 more than the MBP. I don't watch streaming video on it but I do watch mp4 video files on it. And when I've compiled the code I'm working on I use a G3 Pismo to download it to the MicroController I'm working on. Besides CAD and editing / compiling I use the usual web browsing, database, word processing, spreadsheet, etc. applications on it. My household fileserver is a G4 QuickSilver with a SATA card and about 2Tb of storage. Yes, G4s are still quite viable. As to being crazy, I can't say but there is nothing wrong with using a G4 for daily use. PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. Your bad english is better than quite a few so called native speakers I've seen on the Internet. It is certainly better than my Italian which is non-existant. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:40 AM, gira93 wrote: Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? I use my dual CPU 867 MHz MDD It has 2 Gig RAM and runs OS X 10.5.8 Prior to that I ran a Quicksilver with maxxed out RAM and OS X 10.4.11 I upgraded due to a need for more RAM and the ability to add more HDs The quicker speed was also a factor Prior to that was a BW GW (a Smurf) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Hello! -- Original message -- Subject: Are powermac g4 still useful? Date:Monday, 02. January 2012 From:gira93 diskce...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, Yes! I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I have/had the exact one too. But I upgraded the processor. The 733 MHz model lacks level 2 cache, which makes it really slow compared to the 733 MHz version of the G4 Digital Audio. I’d recommend getting a used processor module (+ heatsink) of the Dual-800 MHz or even the Dual-1 GHz version. Alternatively a third party upgrade will help a lot. Even on 10.4 the QS-733 felt significantly slower than the MDD-Dual-1-GHz. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. I’m a crazy person when it comes to answering your question: am I still using an old G4? Well, I've got a lot of G4s, two G5s and one G3. And what do I use mostly? The G3! I got the slowest and oldest of them all running Tiger, Microsoft Office (which just rocks compared to LibreOffice; I don’t know much about iWork) and TenFourFox for the internet. I don’t actually use YouTube on it thou. Wouldn’t work anyway. I also occasionally use a G4 Cube which I plan to upgrade: a GeForce 6200 graphics card maybe, but I’d loose compatibility for the older Mac OSes. I’ll definitely upgrade the single 450 MHz processor in favour of a Dual-500 MHz module that I already have tested in one of my G4 towers. What else… I now used one of the G5s a lot. I found that YouTube works great using TenFourFox and WebM/html5. It’s got some issues with the fans thou. Crazy? Just a matter of perspective. If you can still do with it what you want to do with it, why on earth should that be crazy? I ran Linux on my G4 MDD Dual-1 GHz at first. It was great, but I eventually went for a newer G5 to replace it, which ended in a desaster—just two words: hardware support. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? I think the replies to your post answer it well. There are still people out there that keep their Power Macs running. I don’t want to fall into a negative mood here, but still I find it importaint to point out an observation of mine that made me think that, sadly, these times are going to end soon: look at the download figures of TenFourFox. This will give you a good idea of how many of “us” are still out there… http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list – “Downloadcount” PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. I’m not in the possition to tell you any different than that your English is great. I’m from Austria. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Every day. It is the storage server for my network. DA 500 MHz dual processor 1.5gigs of RAM OS-10.4. Your bad English is better than my students normal speech. Peace, Dennis On 1/2/2012 11:40 AM, gira93 wrote: Hello everyone! Hi would like to know if someone here still uses his Powermac g4, I have a g4 quicksilver (733mhz, 630mb ram) that i still use (and love) today for web browsing, web administration and youtube, it works very well with 10.4.11. I'm writing this because a friend said i was crazy just beacuse i use such an old mac for the everyday use. So does anyone here is still using his old trusty G4? PS: Sorry for my bad english, i'm italian. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Are powermac g4 still useful?
Il giorno 2-01-2012 23:36, Mac User #330250 ha scritto: I don¹t want to fall into a negative mood here, but still I find it importaint to point out an observation of mine that made me think that, sadly, these times are going to end soon: look at the download figures of TenFourFox. This will give you a good idea of how many of ³us² are still out thereŠ http://code.google.com/p/tenfourfox/downloads/list ³Downloadcount² I can't understand your concern. Am I missing something? Number of download seems increasing to me. Considering only the RC/final 4 versions (G3, G4x2, G5): TFF 4.0.1 = 19904 TFF 7.0 = 20703 TFF 8.0 = 22334 I didn't consider TFF 9, because it's still work in progress. DL numbers seem going up, though. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
