Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most 
other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game 
before and it does not sound like something you want to buy, though I 
did discover a handicapped option option in the menu thaw twas not 
available in the demo.


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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Bogdan Muresan]

   I started today playing basketsim. I do not understand exactly what 
players are the best from my lot. Any suggestions? Who can explayn more 
tricks and arange players in matches.


-Mesaj original- 
From: Ian McNamara

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Hi i play baskit sim my self it is a very good game and as every one says 
you don't need to spend a massive amount of time on there.


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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Actually to make it easier for screen reader it is
www.DraconisEntertainment.com 
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Re: [Audyssey] Question about version 1.5 of tdv.

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Well I am not sure what the new features are of 1.5 I wonder if thee is 
an addendum or change Log somewhere.


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Re: [Audyssey] Jumping in Mota

[burakyuksek]

Maybe no need but you can do if you want.
saygilar sevgiler.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jumping in Mota



Hi Burak,
That is not correct. There is no need to perform a running jump at that
firepit.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Behalf Of burakyuksek
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jumping in Mota

Hi,
You must do a running jump.
spoiler
runn at the fire pit with ctrl+shift+right aro and when she come to the 
edge


of the pit, she will jump.
Sorry for my bad English.
saygilar sevgiler.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:06 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Jumping in Mota



Hi, now I'm back from my holidays I can focus more on games and other
things.  I'm back in Mota now, but I'm still struggling with jumping. 
For



example I'm at the first fire pit, I hold down control then hold right
arrow but still end up getting nicely fried!  Where am I going wrong, and
how do I know how long to hold the keys down for?  thanks from Lori.
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
Considering we are from different countries, I probably haven't seen your
team...but who are they?

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

Hi i play baskit sim my self it is a very good game and as every one says
you don't need to spend a massive amount of time on there.

Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
I could help, but I'm not honestly sure what your problem is: can you
explain that again?

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bogdan Muresan
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

I created an acount on basketsim and I recyeved my team. How to stablish 
orders of matches more easy? I do not understand exactly. Any help would be 
apreciated. Thanks!

-Mesaj original- 
From: shaun everiss
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:07 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

aah.ok.
I could probably do it then.
At 10:15 a.m. 2/05/2011, you wrote:
>Shaun,
>You actually do not need to spend a whole lot of time on Basketsim--say 20
>minutes a day, tops.
>
>Best Regards,
>Hayden
>
>
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>Behalf Of shaun everiss
>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:03 PM
>To: gamers@audyssey.org
>Subject: [Audyssey] basket sim
>
>Hi.
>Blindcooltech has a podcast on basketsim.
>Its quite good.
>I don't have the time at the moment to join up yet but it sounds quite 
>cool.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

[Hayden Presley]

Burak,
There is a bonus level, actually...but you have to find it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

But there is no bonus level! I will trie installing the patch.
saygılar sevgiler.
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To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 

Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


You don't even have to complete level 2. Just go right to the first sewer
and hit RIght three times when you jump
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: "Lori Duncan" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


Hi
s
p
o
i
l
e
r
s
p
a
c
e:  What you do is:  1 complete level 2, 2 go back to the first soar.
finally, go until you hear your second jump warning which is the mettal
sound under your feet, then hit up arrow to jump and as you do so hit right
arrow 3 times and you'll land in the bonus level.  If you want to hear it
demonstrated then go to:  www.asmodean.net  a really good site if I may say
so.  hth
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


It is actually attained in Raul's audio walk-through of the game.  It's been
a while since I've listened to it, so I don't remember for sure, but I think
he back tracked to and rejumped the first pit and did something else while
doing that in order to trigger the bonus.  That seems close, anyway.

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From: "dark" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


If I remember rightly, it's the 2nd pit not the first one that has the bonus
level in it.

Bryan actually wrote a pretty good guide on this, maybe looking there will
help.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


Hi,
I want to go to the bonus level on super liam. I am pressing right aro three
times in seberben streets first act. But I am sure I presst three times
right aro on the pit but Liam is dieing. Why this is hapining? Is the
patchfix it?
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Re: [Audyssey] The Science Invasion Cycle

[Hayden Presley]

Hi Ken,
Aha...so now you get why so many people were asking for it. Lol

Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:41 PM
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Subject: [Audyssey] The Science Invasion Cycle

This game is certainly not the best I've ever played, though it's better
than many.  So why do I keep playing this instead of Mota?
It all started with that dang jingle the taxi driver sing.  I start humming
it, then singing it, then before I know it I'm off to the desktop for
another round of getting creamed by the zombies in the bar--even with cheats
on, cuz you can't use your bazooka in there.  One time I actually did make
it to the hotel and, stupid fool, ate the poisoned food.  Should have known
when they asked if I wanted to eat lol
anyway I gotta break this crazy cycle...
Attention everyone!  Attention everyone!  Who wants to go by my car...
Off to play again
help
help!

Ken Downey
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Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
I realize that. But does that mean the titles "have" to be copyrighted?

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed

I will admit that I really don't like copywright law. It's really odd
and so convoluted that most lawyers don't get it.
still, I think it makes sense, in the sense that there's a specific
and definite impetus for the games that can be pointed to, without
paying royalties.

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard

On 4/26/11, Alex Kenny  wrote:
> Hi,
> Whether or not the games are abandoned is not related to their
> copyright status. When code is abandoned, it does not at all mean that
> it is no longer copyrighted. For example, Windows 98, though now
> abandoned, is still copyrighted by Microsoft, and they have the right
> to decide how the code may be distributed.
>
> On 4/26/11, Hayden Presley  wrote:
>> Hi Damien,
>> I'm just curious. These games are abandoned, like several others. Yet
>> there
>> is no "copyright" on those. So why do we have to have a copyright on
>> these?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Hayden
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Damien Pendleton
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:30 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>> Precisely. I feel that these games are way below my current standard now,
>> especially as regards bugs. So it's simple. I either recreate Danger City
>> on
>>
>> popular demand and completely revamp it and commercialise it under a new
>> name, but keep some of the concepts the same, or I transfer the rights to
>> somebody else.
>> Regards,
>> Damien.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Alex Kenny" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Old Titles Removed
>>
>>
>>> I'm not a developer, but I think there is a reason why a developer
>>> would choose not to allow older programs to be redistributed.
>>>
>>> As Damien has previously mentioned, these older titles were written in
>>> a deprecated language by amateur developers. The code is difficult to
>>> read, update, compile and run. I believe there is probably a
>>> reputation issue. Developers don't want buggy and useless code
>>> floating around the net that they wrote. True, Damien didn't write
>>> these games, but by purchasing them, the code is now his
>>> responsibility.
>>>
>>> Another reason I've heard for developers refusing to redistribute
>>> abandonware is that, even if they don't support it, people will still
>>> contact them expecting help. If Damien did allow the games to be
>>> distributed, I have no doubt that someone would download a copy
>>> somewhere, encounter a problem, and send Damien an email saying, "Game
>>> X won't run! Help!" Even if he emphasizes in the game documentation
>>> that the games are abandonware, we've all seen first-hand that many
>>> people in the blind community do not bother reading documentation or
>>> other information that's right in front of them.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/16/11, The Addictor  wrote:
 Hey Tom,
 While I agree a hundred per cent, I still don't see why he's asking
that
 no
 one else distribute the games.  I have them all, as well as other games
 like
 Shell Shock.  They are certainly not all that great, but to demand that
 nobody else distribute them seems a bit odd.  I know they're his games,
 that
 he purchased them, but I don't see a reason for that.
 Ken Downey
 The Addictor
 www.TheAddictor.com
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[David Chung]

Hi there.
What country are you from?
It seems to me that you are not from the United States.
If you are from one of the European countries, my recommendation is to
ask questions in the forums because basketsim has many European
players.
As matches are concerned, you have to play around with the combo boxes
to set your line up correctly.
For the tactics, read the manual and experiment because I can not tell
you what your team's strengths and weaknesses are.
Cheers,
Maranatha!


On 5/2/11, Bogdan Muresan  wrote:
> I created an acount on basketsim and I recyeved my team. How to stablish
> orders of matches more easy? I do not understand exactly. Any help would be
> apreciated. Thanks!
>
> -Mesaj original-
> From: shaun everiss
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:07 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim
>
> aah.ok.
> I could probably do it then.
> At 10:15 a.m. 2/05/2011, you wrote:
>>Shaun,
>>You actually do not need to spend a whole lot of time on Basketsim--say 20
>>minutes a day, tops.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Hayden
>>
>>
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>>Behalf Of shaun everiss
>>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:03 PM
>>To: gamers@audyssey.org
>>Subject: [Audyssey] basket sim
>>
>>Hi.
>>Blindcooltech has a podcast on basketsim.
>>Its quite good.
>>I don't have the time at the moment to join up yet but it sounds quite
>>cool.
>>
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[Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[The Addictor]

Hey Tom,
any chance you'll consider adding an analog weapons system to the game?  I had 
several ideas on this.
First, I personally tend to use my fists more than any other weapon--they get 
the job done just as well for me.  I was thinking that you could add a stamina 
counter that goes down the harder you fight, the longer you run, etc.  So to 
deliver a light punch, you would hold space down for a fraction of a second, 
and to give a heavy punch hold it down longer.  The heavier the punch, the 
bigger the drain on the stamina, but one heavy punch would be more effective 
than five light ones.  If you include dexterity later on, it could take out dex 
points if Angela's not wearing gauntlets or gloves.  This would require 
judgment again, as a skeleton might only need two light punches, where it might 
take a heavy punch to knock out a minotaur.
the same could be true if she swings a sword.  Also, if she has any type of 
powered weapon, the longer the button is held down the bigger the charge.  What 
are your thoughts on this?
Ken Downey
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[Audyssey] Need cordless headset info.

[Ron Kolesar]

To my fellow gamers.
A while back there was a discussion on a cordless headset.
I'm looking for a cordless headset with a microphone boom microphone with a 
mute button.
As a plus but not seriously needed, but as a extra feature, would like to 
have the unit surround sound speakers in the headset.
Between the corded USB USB headset mic and the new f510 corded USB 
controller. I'm getting tangled in all of the cables.
Any and all advice is appreciated.
Many Many Thanks.
Ron and that four pawed game cheater Boz who said that having four paws 
beats having only two hands any time of the week. SMILES.

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[Audyssey] Totally confused!

[Lori Duncan]

Ok, I've mastered jumping in Mota now I think, but here's the thing.  I jump 
that fire and come to a rope, I climbe up it until I hear the ledge to my left 
then jump off to the left, hear a lever and activate it.  Then comes the 
confusion.  1, I can't seem to find any other way out other than dead ends, and 
2 each time I leap back off the rope I'm hearing more levers?  Oh and I got a 
shock at one point when the music changed and fired my gun out of reaction, 
that's how elert I am   Anyway I'm lost, could someone help to get me 
out please?  Thanks from Lori.
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[Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Lori Duncan]

Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice in Mota 
now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what he sounds 
like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice Tom?  "Speak the 
correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your soul is mine!"  I 
just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

[Meka White, LMP]

if you mean www.core-exiles.com it isn't a mud at all, which is why you 
can't access it that way.  It is a browser-based game.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:53 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles


Hi I found this one on the net, I thought I could get into it using my VIP 
MUD client, but it seems not.  Has anyone else managed to playing it using a 
mud.
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[Audyssey] Ledge in Mota

[Lori Duncan]

Hi I've found a ledge where that first rope is, the ledge is on my left, but I 
never seem to land on it, instead I end up back at the bottom of the rope, not 
sure why this is.  I just can't seem to go on further in the game, you could 
say I'm at the end of my rope 
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Re: [Audyssey] Ledge in Mota

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lori,

The analog jump system in beta 18 is very sensative. I've  fine tuned
this in beta 19, but if Angela grabs a rope you have to let up on the
keys rather quickly or she'll swing off of it onto the floor. Another
issue might be is you are letting up too soon and not jumping quite
far enough to grab it. That's what an analog jump system is all about.
Practice, and llearning on just exactly how long to hold down the keys
or buttons to jump the proper distance.


I realise you probably have little experience with this, but many
classic games such as Super Mario had such a jump system in place
clear back as early as the 1980's. The longer the jump button and
directional cross was held down together the higher and further Mario
could jump. This allowed you, the gamer, to perform a small jump or a
very big jump depending on how far you needed to go just by judging
the length of time etc you held the jump button down.

HTH

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi I've found a ledge where that first rope is, the ledge is on my left, but
> I never seem to land on it, instead I end up back at the bottom of the rope,
> not sure why this is.  I just can't seem to go on further in the game, you
> could say I'm at the end of my rope 
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Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

[darren harris]

What made anybody think that core exiles is a mud? 

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Sent: 02 May 2011 20:50
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

if you mean www.core-exiles.com it isn't a mud at all, which is why you 
can't access it that way.  It is a browser-based game.


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Subject: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles


Hi I found this one on the net, I thought I could get into it using my VIP 
MUD client, but it seems not.  Has anyone else managed to playing it using a

mud.
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Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

[Lori Duncan]

I wasn't sure if it was a mud or not, that's why i was askig, anyway it 
doesn't seem very blind-friendly
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What made anybody think that core exiles is a mud?

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Behalf Of Meka White, LMP
Sent: 02 May 2011 20:50
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

if you mean www.core-exiles.com it isn't a mud at all, which is why you
can't access it that way.  It is a browser-based game.


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:53 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles


Hi I found this one on the net, I thought I could get into it using my VIP
MUD client, but it seems not.  Has anyone else managed to playing it using 
a


mud.
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice in
> Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what he
> sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice Tom?
> "Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your soul
> is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Imbar Golt]

Where can one find basket sim?

Thanks,

Imbar
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim



Hi there.
What country are you from?
It seems to me that you are not from the United States.
If you are from one of the European countries, my recommendation is to
ask questions in the forums because basketsim has many European
players.
As matches are concerned, you have to play around with the combo boxes
to set your line up correctly.
For the tactics, read the manual and experiment because I can not tell
you what your team's strengths and weaknesses are.
Cheers,
Maranatha!


On 5/2/11, Bogdan Muresan  wrote:

I created an acount on basketsim and I recyeved my team. How to stablish
orders of matches more easy? I do not understand exactly. Any help would 
be

apreciated. Thanks!

-Mesaj original-
From: shaun everiss
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

aah.ok.
I could probably do it then.
At 10:15 a.m. 2/05/2011, you wrote:

Shaun,
You actually do not need to spend a whole lot of time on Basketsim--say 
20

minutes a day, tops.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Subject: [Audyssey] basket sim

Hi.
Blindcooltech has a podcast on basketsim.
Its quite good.
I don't have the time at the moment to join up yet but it sounds quite
cool.


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Re: [Audyssey] Question about version 1.5 of tdv.

[Imbar Golt]

Problem is solved, I managed to land with the keyboard and understand the 
changes they made.


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Well I am not sure what the new features are of 1.5 I wonder if thee is an 
addendum or change Log somewhere.


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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Charles Rivard]

If you read the documentation that comes with it, as you should do with any 
game, you will find the demo's limitations and what you can do with the full 
game.  The demo, like any other, is so that you get a general idea of what 
the game is like.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?


Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most 
other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game 
before and it does not sound like something you want to buy, though I did 
discover a handicapped option option in the menu thaw twas not available 
in the demo.


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Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

[burakyuksek]

I've find it but I couldn't enter it lol
saygılar sevgiler.
- Original Message - 
From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


Burak,
There is a bonus level, actually...but you have to find it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of burakyuksek
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:38 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

But there is no bonus level! I will trie installing the patch.
saygılar sevgiler.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list"

Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


You don't even have to complete level 2. Just go right to the first sewer
and hit RIght three times when you jump
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


Hi
s
p
o
i
l
e
r
s
p
a
c
e:  What you do is:  1 complete level 2, 2 go back to the first soar.
finally, go until you hear your second jump warning which is the mettal
sound under your feet, then hit up arrow to jump and as you do so hit right
arrow 3 times and you'll land in the bonus level.  If you want to hear it
demonstrated then go to:  www.asmodean.net  a really good site if I may say
so.  hth
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


It is actually attained in Raul's audio walk-through of the game.  It's been
a while since I've listened to it, so I don't remember for sure, but I think
he back tracked to and rejumped the first pit and did something else while
doing that in order to trigger the bonus.  That seems close, anyway.

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- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


If I remember rightly, it's the 2nd pit not the first one that has the bonus
level in it.

Bryan actually wrote a pretty good guide on this, maybe looking there will
help.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "burakyuksek" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


Hi,
I want to go to the bonus level on super liam. I am pressing right aro three
times in seberben streets first act. But I am sure I presst three times
right aro on the pit but Liam is dieing. Why this is hapining? Is the
patchfix it?
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Damien Pendleton]

Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance to 
play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal performance 
either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like a 15 year old. 
Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out of sync with the 
rest of the available audiogames out there simply because of my broad 
yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice 
in

Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

[Bryan Peterson]

If you find it you enter it. THey're the same thing.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: "burakyuksek" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


I've find it but I couldn't enter it lol
saygılar sevgiler.
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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


Burak,
There is a bonus level, actually...but you have to find it.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of burakyuksek
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:38 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help

But there is no bonus level! I will trie installing the patch.
saygılar sevgiler.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list"

Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


You don't even have to complete level 2. Just go right to the first sewer
and hit RIght three times when you jump
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


Hi
s
p
o
i
l
e
r
s
p
a
c
e:  What you do is:  1 complete level 2, 2 go back to the first soar.
finally, go until you hear your second jump warning which is the mettal
sound under your feet, then hit up arrow to jump and as you do so hit right
arrow 3 times and you'll land in the bonus level.  If you want to hear it
demonstrated then go to:  www.asmodean.net  a really good site if I may say
so.  hth
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:55 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] possible spoiler of Super liam bonus level help


It is actually attained in Raul's audio walk-through of the game.  It's been
a while since I've listened to it, so I don't remember for sure, but I think
he back tracked to and rejumped the first pit and did something else while
doing that in order to trigger the bonus.  That seems close, anyway.

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heart.
- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


If I remember rightly, it's the 2nd pit not the first one that has the bonus
level in it.

Bryan actually wrote a pretty good guide on this, maybe looking there will
help.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "burakyuksek" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Super liam bonus level help


Hi,
I want to go to the bonus level on super liam. I am pressing right aro three
times in seberben streets first act. But I am sure I presst three times
right aro on the pit but Liam is dieing. Why this is hapining? Is the
patchfix it?
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[Audyssey] bug in mota

[Lori Duncan]

Hi I'm reluctent to report this bug as it's really cool, but whenever I get hit 
my health stays at excelent and never drops, but when I played the game for the 
first time I did lose health, not sure where that bug has come from, but am 
happy to have it   Also not sure if this is a bug or not, but I've just 
been poisoned by a spider thing I think, the only problem is he's lined up in 
my sights but whatever I do nothing seems to kill him, is there a special wepon 
I need?  Thanks from Lori
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Re: [Audyssey] Totally confused!

[Charles Rivard]

Maybe there's something you must find elsewhere in order to get farther.

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From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:51 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Totally confused!


Ok, I've mastered jumping in Mota now I think, but here's the thing.  I 
jump that fire and come to a rope, I climbe up it until I hear the ledge 
to my left then jump off to the left, hear a lever and activate it.  Then 
comes the confusion.  1, I can't seem to find any other way out other than 
dead ends, and 2 each time I leap back off the rope I'm hearing more 
levers?  Oh and I got a shock at one point when the music changed and 
fired my gun out of reaction, that's how elert I am   Anyway I'm 
lost, could someone help to get me out please?  Thanks from Lori.

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Lori Duncan]

Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, I'm 
from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, I just 
sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and have to get 
my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you should hear what I 
sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am coughing my brains out!
- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance 
to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal performance 
either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like a 15 year 
old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out of sync with 
the rest of the available audiogames out there simply because of my broad 
yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice 
in

Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

[darren harris]

It's perfectly blind friendly. I've been playing it for over a year. 

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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Lori Duncan
Sent: 03 May 2011 13:46
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles

I wasn't sure if it was a mud or not, that's why i was askig, anyway it
doesn't seem very blind-friendly
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles


> What made anybody think that core exiles is a mud?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
> On Behalf Of Meka White, LMP
> Sent: 02 May 2011 20:50
> To: Lori Duncan; Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles
>
> if you mean www.core-exiles.com it isn't a mud at all, which is why 
> you can't access it that way.  It is a browser-based game.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lori Duncan" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:53 AM
> Subject: [Audyssey] Core-Exiles
>
>
> Hi I found this one on the net, I thought I could get into it using my 
> VIP MUD client, but it seems not.  Has anyone else managed to playing 
> it using a
>
> mud.
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[Audyssey] frustrated

[Kim Friedman]

I don't know why it is so, but I find vip mud frustrating. First of all,
I probably don't have it set correctly. Second, the text goes by so fast
and I can't even ask any questions about what I'm hearing. How am I
supposed to choose a race for a character if I can't read about it in
the first place? Also, what if you have no idea what sort of name the
damned game is looking for? The tutorials may be dandy but those
commands go by so fast and the screen reads them so quickly that I'm
stuck. I sure wish my Braille display was recognized so I wouldn't have
to rely on the fast-moving, frustrating speech. I can't even ask a
decent question because every time the enter key is pressed, it is
assumed you're giving a command. Help will be appreciated. Believe me,
I'd like to chuck that client out the window if it would do me any good,
which I doubt. 
Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: If you don't approve this message, I'm
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Damien Pendleton]

Hi Laurie,
River Raiders is an audiogame I created over Christmas and am continually 
having to patch for various reasons.

Regards,
Damien.



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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, I'm 
from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, I just 
sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and have to get 
my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you should hear what 
I sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am coughing my brains 
out!
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
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Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance 
to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal 
performance either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like 
a 15 year old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out 
of sync with the rest of the available audiogames out there simply 
because of my broad yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice 
in
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what 
he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] Totally confused!

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Hi Lori,

It sounds to me what is happening is you aren't jumping far enough to
land on the ledge and end up back on the ground floor. Using the r key
will confirm this ifyou get confused. In fact, perhaps I need to add
the visited here feature to the side-scroller version as well as I've
been getting this question a lot after beta 18 came out as I don't
think people are aware they are missing the ledge and run right back
into the rooms they just left.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Ok, I've mastered jumping in Mota now I think, but here's the thing.  I jump
> that fire and come to a rope, I climbe up it until I hear the ledge to my
> left then jump off to the left, hear a lever and activate it.  Then comes
> the confusion.  1, I can't seem to find any other way out other than dead
> ends, and 2 each time I leap back off the rope I'm hearing more levers?  Oh
> and I got a shock at one point when the music changed and fired my gun out
> of reaction, that's how elert I am   Anyway I'm lost, could someone
> help to get me out please?  Thanks from Lori.
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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Phil Vlasak]

Hi Alfredo,
There are several things you get with the full version of Ten Pin Alley.
1. You can play all ten frames instead of the last few.
2. The game will remember your score and give you totals on how you are 
doing and your average score.

3. You can choose a name to use from over a hundred pre-recorded names.
4. You can add your own name if it isn't in the list, although the procedure 
for doing this is a bit cumbersome.
5. You can use the handicapping feature which allows two players of 
different skills to play against each other with either having the same 
chance of winning.
6. You get to hear the radio and TV commercials that pop up after the fifth 
frame.
7. You can support Me and Draconis with the money we get for the game, so we 
can continue developing new games.

smiles,
Phil

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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?


Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most 
other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game 
before and it does not sound like something you want to buy, though I did 
discover a handicapped option option in the menu thaw twas not available 
in the demo.


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Re: [Audyssey] frustrated

[Lori Duncan]

Hi, I know it's really anoying sometimes.  What you could try is hit control 
key to shut the mud up then tab to the output wondow and use your arrow keys 
to scrole through the classes.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] frustrated



I don't know why it is so, but I find vip mud frustrating. First of all,
I probably don't have it set correctly. Second, the text goes by so fast
and I can't even ask any questions about what I'm hearing. How am I
supposed to choose a race for a character if I can't read about it in
the first place? Also, what if you have no idea what sort of name the
damned game is looking for? The tutorials may be dandy but those
commands go by so fast and the screen reads them so quickly that I'm
stuck. I sure wish my Braille display was recognized so I wouldn't have
to rely on the fast-moving, frustrating speech. I can't even ask a
decent question because every time the enter key is pressed, it is
assumed you're giving a command. Help will be appreciated. Believe me,
I'd like to chuck that client out the window if it would do me any good,
which I doubt.
Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: If you don't approve this message, I'm
sorry but I'm overset and need to vent my feelings. K.


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Re: [Audyssey] bug in mota

[Richard Claridge]

Hi
Last night for the first time I also played without losing health.
I was going to let you know but was beaten to it lol.
cheers
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 May 2011, at 14:31, Lori Duncan  wrote:

> Hi I'm reluctent to report this bug as it's really cool, but whenever I get 
> hit my health stays at excelent and never drops, but when I played the game 
> for the first time I did lose health, not sure where that bug has come from, 
> but am happy to have it   Also not sure if this is a bug or not, but 
> I've just been poisoned by a spider thing I think, the only problem is he's 
> lined up in my sights but whatever I do nothing seems to kill him, is there a 
> special wepon I need?  Thanks from Lori
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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Charles Rivard]

I like that seventh choice.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?



Hi Alfredo,
There are several things you get with the full version of Ten Pin Alley.
1. You can play all ten frames instead of the last few.
2. The game will remember your score and give you totals on how you are 
doing and your average score.

3. You can choose a name to use from over a hundred pre-recorded names.
4. You can add your own name if it isn't in the list, although the 
procedure for doing this is a bit cumbersome.
5. You can use the handicapping feature which allows two players of 
different skills to play against each other with either having the same 
chance of winning.
6. You get to hear the radio and TV commercials that pop up after the 
fifth frame.
7. You can support Me and Draconis with the money we get for the game, so 
we can continue developing new games.

smiles,
Phil

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?


Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most 
other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game 
before and it does not sound like something you want to buy, though I did 
discover a handicapped option option in the menu thaw twas not available 
in the demo.


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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[dark]

My only issue is ken, personally staminer in that way would just be an 
irritating game mechanic to me, sinse what I'd do would be fight with maxed 
attacks, then just stand around until i was recovered.


so, all it would add to the game would be more standing around essentially.

while chargeable or otherwise limted weapons have existed the usual method 
is slightly different.


for instance in many games (mega man, metroid, gunstar heroes, zelda etc), 
tapping an attack button produces a weak attack, while holding for a length 
of time then releasing can build up to a stronger attack up to a certain 
level, the catch being that while you can constantly throw weak attacks, 
strong attacks have charge time so you'll need to dodge around for a bit 
before launching one.


some beat em ups employ this principle too.

the basic idea is that you need free time from attacking to produce a 
stronger attack, meaning that attack must be accurate, or meaning you must 
trade several small attacks for one powerful one.


this is why so many of the mega man zero bosses are particularly hard, sinse 
zero fights with a z sabre, a short range sword, and must dodge around with 
it charged and maneuver carefully around the boss's attacks to get close 
enough to give a powerful hit.


I'm not sure about this in mota, sinse I can't really see how you would 
retain physical charge on a sword (ie, stand and prepare for a big swing), 
and climb a rope, though it could bee interesting if the mechanics could be 
worked out.


Alternatively, using the tap vs press idea, short attacks could be quicker 
but weaker, while strong attacks be slower but stronger, so when fighting a 
skeleton, many short attacks might despatch it quickly, while a strong enemy 
like a centaur might need one heavy blow sinse it'd just shrug off quick 
hits and attack you back.


some games have had a method like this one too, for instance several 
abilities in kirby superstar, and some of the weapons in gunstar heroes and 
Omega boy.


for limiting by staminer or some other measure though which recovered slowly 
over time, i'm less certain really for the reason i mentioned.


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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

Actually, that's a point.

i've been reading mails from the chap for about five years now, but never 
heard his voice.


I've heard phil, che and jim on interviews, but not tom?  maybe he's 
really a growling demon from the pits of hades and doesn't want us to know 
it,  that would also explain his intensive knolidge of griek 
mythology, - though maybe less so his liking for startrek, starwars and 
wrestling,  unless the tv reception in hades is pretty good ;D.


Eitherway, I agree, it'd be rather nice to here his voice in the game.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 8:53 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice in 
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what he 
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice Tom? 
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your soul 
is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.

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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[dark]

not much in Demos of first person games compared to the main game?

I'm a litle confused by that comment Alfredo.

shades of doom, terraformers Gma tank commander and Sarah all have pretty 
huge main games compared to what is in the demo, even dynaman and packman 
talks stil have a fair amount to offer.


pluss, while the view in ten pin alley could be called first person siinse 
the scan of the pins runs infront of you from left to right, this is 
probably exaggerating the deffinition slightly, sinse for a start the first 
person viewpoint really isn't the games distinguishing feature.


All that being said, I do personally agree.

ten pin alley is one of the Draconis titles I've not bothered buying, sinse 
though the game has many features like adding in player names, none really 
make a massive difference to the gameplay which is pretty much like crazy 
darts when all said and done,  though with more ambience.


Maybe this might be different if you had several people at one machine to 
play it with, but as a single player game, Ten pin alley for me just wasn't 
worth it, and imho Draconis should possibly considder this if they plan on 
upgrading the game.


Besides, I found it far too easy to guarantee a strike every go by throwing 
at the correct place, which made the game pretty repetitive and might even 
make playing with multiple players not much fun.


Then again, I'll admit sports games aren't an interest of mine, so maybe I'm 
slightly harsh in characterizing the gameplay of ten pin alley this way.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?


Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most 
other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game 
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

Ouch Tom.

i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.

I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none audio 
way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not actually 
heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound pretty much like 
kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who played Frazier, beast 
in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons etc.


So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse I've 
not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like frazier 
anyway ;D.


All the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

A shame lori, i think scots accents sound fantastic!

My parents' local accent is nottingham, which is a horrible mix betwene 
yorkshire, bermingham and manchester, and sounds really! horrible.


this is one reason I myself have such queens' english pronunciation, I 
trained myself out of my local accent at the age of about 17, - that and 
going to a university full of slightly upper class people, and of course 
doing singing fairly seriously.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, I'm 
from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, I just 
sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and have to get 
my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you should hear what 
I sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am coughing my brains 
out!
- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance 
to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal 
performance either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like 
a 15 year old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out 
of sync with the rest of the available audiogames out there simply 
because of my broad yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the voice 
in
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what 
he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Lori Duncan]

sAME HERE dARK, i IMAGINED tOM TO SOUND LIKE A SUPER HERO TYPE OF VOICE, 
MAYBE LIKE sEAN bEAN FROM lORD OF THE RINGS.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Ouch Tom.

i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.

I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none 
audio way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not 
actually heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound 
pretty much like kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who 
played Frazier, beast in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons 
etc.


So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse I've 
not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like frazier 
anyway ;D.


All the best,

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Dark,

Yeah, I do pretty much the same thing when reading e-mails. Since I
don't know what someone souhnds like I tend to associate them with the
voice of some film star, movie character, etc as well. However, as
this topic proves that can be as far from the truth as possible.

As for my own voice I manage. I've learned over the years if I want to
be pretty clear to my audience, such as speaking to a client over the
phone, I will talk a bit slower than usual  in order to make my words
clear and not slur them. Like a person who stutters I have to
consciously think about how to say some words in order to make them
loud and clear enough to be understood without repeating them. If i
don't my words will come out with a little lisp or slurring. I might
be able to do a podcast or something, but doing voice overs for menus,
status reports, i don't think would sound too good in a game.

On 5/3/11, dark  wrote:
> Ouch Tom.
>
> i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.
>
> I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none audio
> way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not actually
> heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound pretty much like
> kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who played Frazier, beast
> in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons etc.
>
> So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse I've
> not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like frazier
> anyway ;D.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.

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[Audyssey] For Clemant.

[Tom Randall]

Hey man did you get my email last week?  Just in case you didn't the short
version is I'm starting to play around with MK9 which I picked up last week
and I had written you and Yohandy to see if you guys needed any menus read
or anything as I may have some sighted help available pretty soon.  If so
just let me know either on here or direct.

Laters.

Tom

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Lori Duncan]

Hi Tom I actually have a skight lisp sometimes, usually when I get nervous 
or panicky, you'd notice it more in a recording than in real life though.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Dark,

Yeah, I do pretty much the same thing when reading e-mails. Since I
don't know what someone souhnds like I tend to associate them with the
voice of some film star, movie character, etc as well. However, as
this topic proves that can be as far from the truth as possible.

As for my own voice I manage. I've learned over the years if I want to
be pretty clear to my audience, such as speaking to a client over the
phone, I will talk a bit slower than usual  in order to make my words
clear and not slur them. Like a person who stutters I have to
consciously think about how to say some words in order to make them
loud and clear enough to be understood without repeating them. If i
don't my words will come out with a little lisp or slurring. I might
be able to do a podcast or something, but doing voice overs for menus,
status reports, i don't think would sound too good in a game.

On 5/3/11, dark  wrote:

Ouch Tom.

i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.

I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none 
audio

way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not actually
heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound pretty much 
like
kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who played Frazier, 
beast

in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons etc.

So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse 
I've
not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like 
frazier

anyway ;D.

All the best,

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Ken,

I don't really know. I'm not really sure how something like that could
be implented into the game. The combat system is rather generic in
that you simply name the type of weapon, give it a hit point value,
mmin and max range, and let it go in the engine. It was never designed
with the concept of light vs heavy attacks etc in mind. I'm not sure
how I would go about changing this behavior even if I wanted to.

Cheers!


On 5/2/11, The Addictor  wrote:
> Hey Tom,
> any chance you'll consider adding an analog weapons system to the game?  I
> had several ideas on this.
> First, I personally tend to use my fists more than any other weapon--they
> get the job done just as well for me.  I was thinking that you could add a
> stamina counter that goes down the harder you fight, the longer you run,
> etc.  So to deliver a light punch, you would hold space down for a fraction
> of a second, and to give a heavy punch hold it down longer.  The heavier the
> punch, the bigger the drain on the stamina, but one heavy punch would be
> more effective than five light ones.  If you include dexterity later on, it
> could take out dex points if Angela's not wearing gauntlets or gloves.  This
> would require judgment again, as a skeleton might only need two light
> punches, where it might take a heavy punch to knock out a minotaur.
> the same could be true if she swings a sword.  Also, if she has any type of
> powered weapon, the longer the button is held down the bigger the charge.
> What are your thoughts on this?
> Ken Downey
> The Addictor
> www.TheAddictor.com
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Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA

[Valiant8086]

Hi.
My thought is can you have it check for key Pressed instead of key Down? 
Then it will interrupt anything it was saying when you press control, 
but when you hit w it should be able to speak it.


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On 4/29/2011 7:28 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi all,

Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of
the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working
on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a
key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire
weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However,
I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the
new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then
press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't
say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is
however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I
can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak
number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other
is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts
on this matter?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA

[Valiant8086]

In that case, I'm for changing ctrl+w to shift+w. Either that or 
changing the stop speech to alt, like it is in GMA Games.


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On 4/29/2011 8:05 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi philip,

Thanks. That's a good suggestion. Although that means a major rewrite
of the G3D input code. At least for Windows. I'm not really willing to
put that many hours into bug fixes right now. As I explained on the
USA Games list I'm looking for quick and simple solutions to bugs so I
can get MOTA 1.0 out of the door. I can worry about rewriting input
handling at some other point. I've already got my hands full
completing the Windows version let alone finish updating the Linux
version of the G3D engine and releasing a cross-platform version of
MOTA.

Cheers!





On 4/29/11, Philip Bennefall  wrote:

Hi Thomas,

There is a third option, which will let you maintain the current keyboard
layout. You can first perform a check to see if the ctrl key is pressed, if
this is the case then interrupt the speech. This should obviously be a key
pressed rather than a key down check, so that it only reports true again if
the user releases the key and then pushes it down once more. Then you can
check if the w key is pressed, and if this is the case check if the ctrl key
is down. This is what I do in my upcoming game to solve this issue and it
works very well. Just make strategic use of key down versus key pressed and
there won't be a problem. What will end up happening, of course, is that
speech is first interrupted when the control key is pressed but then
immediately restarted again if w is pressed and control is still down.
However speech won't be interrupted again on the next loop iteration because
control will just be down, but not newly pressed. similarly the status
command won't be restarted over and over again because w has not been newly
pressed either. Using a key pressed rather than a key down check would also
solve the slight quirk where holding down one of the number keys starts a
violent stutter of the weapon name as it gets retriggered on every single
loop iteration.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

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Re: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA

[Valiant8086]

I also like the idea of using Escape

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On 4/29/2011 9:25 AM, Pitermach wrote:

hi thomas,
I have read through this thread and I personally wouldn't use the 
slash or grave key to interrupt speech. Escape, however, would be ok. 
Another option would be alt, that's what sound rts uses and you can 
get used to it quickly enough.
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:28 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Interrupting Speech in MOTA



Hi all,

Early this morning I was working on some bug fixes for Mysteries of
the Ancients, and one of the things I've finally got around to working
on is this issue of keyboard interrupts. I.E. being able to press a
key and interrupt speech as well as being able to run, walk, or fire
weapons why the game is talking. All of that is good news. However,
I've ran into something of a miner technical issue dealing with the
new speech interrupt code. If I asign it to the control key and then
press something like control+w to speak the current weapon it won't
say anything because the control key is the silence key. There is
however a couple of quick and easy work arounds for this issue. One, I
can remap those keys to shift+w for speak weapon, shift+p to speak
number of potions, shift+t to speak torches remaining, etc. The other
is to think of using something else as the silence key. Any thoughts
on this matter?

Cheers!



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[Audyssey] surprising voices - Re: Idea for Mota

[Charles Rivard]

I had always figured Tom's voice to be somewhat like that of James North. 
You just never know.  It's sometimes interesting to find out how you sound 
to others, or what they think you sound like if they have never heard your 
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Ouch Tom.

i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.

I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none 
audio way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not 
actually heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound 
pretty much like kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who 
played Frazier, beast in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons 
etc.


So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse I've 
not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like frazier 
anyway ;D.


All the best,

Dark.

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Charles Rivard]

Hmm.  I always thought of your voice as sounding like an English butler. 
Sort of like Giles French of Family Affair.


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- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



A shame lori, i think scots accents sound fantastic!

My parents' local accent is nottingham, which is a horrible mix betwene 
yorkshire, bermingham and manchester, and sounds really! horrible.


this is one reason I myself have such queens' english pronunciation, I 
trained myself out of my local accent at the age of about 17, - that 
and going to a university full of slightly upper class people, and of 
course doing singing fairly seriously.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, I'm 
from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, I 
just sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and have 
to get my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you should 
hear what I sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am coughing 
my brains out!
- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance 
to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal 
performance either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like 
a 15 year old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out 
of sync with the rest of the available audiogames out there simply 
because of my broad yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the 
voice in
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what 
he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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[Audyssey] vipMud was: Re: frustrated

[Che]

 you should stick with VIPMud, and make sure you read the instructions for 
basic use included with it.
 Playing any mud with a screenreader requires a good bit of reviewing , and 
David at GMA has made this very easy, jus ttab to the output window and tab 
back when your done.
 There are also cool search tools included to help you find what your 
looking for in the output .
david has made it very easy to create aliases, triggers, your own sound 
triggers, etc. but like anything else it takes a bit of time and effort to 
get smooth with it.
 I've used pretty much all the major mud clients the past few years, but 
VIPMud is my favorite for a lot of reasons. its not perfect, but nothing is.
 hang in there with it, you'll be glad you did if you plan on doing much 
mudding with a screenreader.

later
che

-Original Message- 
From: Lori Duncan

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:57 AM
To: kimfr...@verizon.net ; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] frustrated

Hi, I know it's really anoying sometimes.  What you could try is hit control
key to shut the mud up then tab to the output wondow and use your arrow keys
to scrole through the classes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kim Friedman" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] frustrated



I don't know why it is so, but I find vip mud frustrating. First of all,
I probably don't have it set correctly. Second, the text goes by so fast
and I can't even ask any questions about what I'm hearing. How am I
supposed to choose a race for a character if I can't read about it in
the first place? Also, what if you have no idea what sort of name the
damned game is looking for? The tutorials may be dandy but those
commands go by so fast and the screen reads them so quickly that I'm
stuck. I sure wish my Braille display was recognized so I wouldn't have
to rely on the fast-moving, frustrating speech. I can't even ask a
decent question because every time the enter key is pressed, it is
assumed you're giving a command. Help will be appreciated. Believe me,
I'd like to chuck that client out the window if it would do me any good,
which I doubt.
Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: If you don't approve this message, I'm
sorry but I'm overset and need to vent my feelings. K.


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[Audyssey] voices, was: idea for mota

[Che]

Hi,
 Just changing the subject line here so I won't have to check emails that 
don't relate to the subject line at all.
 would be nice if the participants in these threads would do this 
themselves, and save the rest of us some time.
 Not meanign to come across like a nag, but lately this list is getting to 
be a bit much with the one line replies, off topic posts and flood of spammy 
useless posts.  I'm sure I'm not alone with my annoyance, but sometimes a 
reminder from the community is a good thing

thanks for your understanding,
che


-Original Message- 
From: Charles Rivard

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:38 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

Hmm.  I always thought of your voice as sounding like an English butler.
Sort of like Giles French of Family Affair.

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From: "dark" 

To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list"

Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



A shame lori, i think scots accents sound fantastic!

My parents' local accent is nottingham, which is a horrible mix betwene 
yorkshire, bermingham and manchester, and sounds really! horrible.


this is one reason I myself have such queens' english pronunciation, I 
trained myself out of my local accent at the age of about 17, - that 
and going to a university full of slightly upper class people, and of 
course doing singing fairly seriously.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, I'm 
from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, I 
just sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and have 
to get my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you should 
hear what I sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am coughing 
my brains out!
- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had chance 
to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal 
performance either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much like 
a 15 year old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds much out 
of sync with the rest of the available audiogames out there simply 
because of my broad yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the 
voice in
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what 
he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Shiny protector]

I have to agree with Ken. This would be cool.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "The Addictor" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system



Hi Ken,

I don't really know. I'm not really sure how something like that could
be implented into the game. The combat system is rather generic in
that you simply name the type of weapon, give it a hit point value,
mmin and max range, and let it go in the engine. It was never designed
with the concept of light vs heavy attacks etc in mind. I'm not sure
how I would go about changing this behavior even if I wanted to.

Cheers!


On 5/2/11, The Addictor  wrote:

Hey Tom,
any chance you'll consider adding an analog weapons system to the game? 
I

had several ideas on this.
First, I personally tend to use my fists more than any other weapon--they
get the job done just as well for me.  I was thinking that you could add 
a

stamina counter that goes down the harder you fight, the longer you run,
etc.  So to deliver a light punch, you would hold space down for a 
fraction
of a second, and to give a heavy punch hold it down longer.  The heavier 
the

punch, the bigger the drain on the stamina, but one heavy punch would be
more effective than five light ones.  If you include dexterity later on, 
it
could take out dex points if Angela's not wearing gauntlets or gloves. 
This

would require judgment again, as a skeleton might only need two light
punches, where it might take a heavy punch to knock out a minotaur.
the same could be true if she swings a sword.  Also, if she has any type 
of

powered weapon, the longer the button is held down the bigger the charge.
What are your thoughts on this?
Ken Downey
The Addictor
www.TheAddictor.com
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Lori Duncan]

No really thick broad scotish accents are quite gutterle and horrible 
sounding I think.  Although my family arn't broad scotish I too have got my 
voice so it's clear and through my drama and voice training I've managed to 
get my diction sorted too 
- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hmm.  I always thought of your voice as sounding like an English butler. 
Sort of like Giles French of Family Affair.


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- Original Message - 
From: "dark" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



A shame lori, i think scots accents sound fantastic!

My parents' local accent is nottingham, which is a horrible mix betwene 
yorkshire, bermingham and manchester, and sounds really! horrible.


this is one reason I myself have such queens' english pronunciation, I 
trained myself out of my local accent at the age of about 17, - that 
and going to a university full of slightly upper class people, and of 
course doing singing fairly seriously.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi is this a video game you did the voice for?  I too hate my accent, 
I'm from Scotland uk, but luckily for me my accent isn't broad scotish, 
I just sound very shy and sometimes mix up what I'm trying to say and 
have to get my tongue out of a tangle   Don't worry Thom, you 
should hear what I sound like at the moment, my throat is sore and am 
coughing my brains out!
- Original Message - 
From: "Damien Pendleton" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Thomas,
I know what you mean about your voice. Don't know if you have had 
chance to play River Raiders, but I'm not too impressed with my vocal 
performance either. I'm 23 years old and I still think I sound much 
like a 15 year old. Add to that I'm from the UK, so my voice sounds 
much out of sync with the rest of the available audiogames out there 
simply because of my broad yorkshire accent. Smiles.

Regards,
Damien.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Lori,

Ummm...No, I couldn't really do that. To begin with my actual voice is
terrible. Kind of like a teenager going through puberty where it
cracks and doesn't know if it wants to be high or low. Secondly, and
more importantly, I have muscle/nerve damage to my face so it makes it
very difficult at times to talk and eat, because I don't have full
muscle control over my mouth. As a result I tend to mumble words or
slur them because I'm unable to make my mouth properly form the words.
That's why I don't use my own voice for games etc. I will say its
really frustrating for me to try and talk on the phone, and have a
client, friend, etc ask me to try and repete something because I just
can't say what I want to say too clearly.

On 5/2/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Hi, just out of interest I thought as it's scansoft Tom doing the 
voice in
Mota now, what about the real Tom?  Would be interesting to know what 
he
sounds like, couldn't you introduce a talking statue with your voice 
Tom?
"Speak the correct word and thou shalt pass!  Answer wrongly and your 
soul

is mine!"  I just thought it would be an interesting idea.
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Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?

[Dakotah Rickard]

The trouble is that most companies today, in the mainstream, don't
offer demos of games. THey offer trailors. I love our companies,
because they do offer demos, but for some people, buying the full
version should unlock loads of worlds, new equipment, etc. like in
Shades of Doom.

I think that the comment stems from games like Ten Pin Alley and to an
extent, Entombed, that do not differ in gameplay from demo to full
version, only in content. I value this difference enough to buy
Entombed, and I've considered buying Ten Pin Alley off and on,
although (no criticism intended) I enjoy Wii Sports a little more, and
I already have it.
I've often thought that, should I begin to market games once I'm
proficient enough to make them interesting, I'll offer either a
trailor, a very limited demo, or a timed demo. The first is
self-explanatory, the second is a demo like Shades of Doom, where you
run into one additional weapon and two monsters, and the third option
is like Galaxy Rangers etc.

Ten Pin Alley does rather offer a lot of itself up, but this in no way
makes purchasing the full game unreasonable.

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard

On 5/3/11, dark  wrote:
> not much in Demos of first person games compared to the main game?
>
> I'm a litle confused by that comment Alfredo.
>
> shades of doom, terraformers Gma tank commander and Sarah all have pretty
> huge main games compared to what is in the demo, even dynaman and packman
> talks stil have a fair amount to offer.
>
> pluss, while the view in ten pin alley could be called first person siinse
> the scan of the pins runs infront of you from left to right, this is
> probably exaggerating the deffinition slightly, sinse for a start the first
> person viewpoint really isn't the games distinguishing feature.
>
> All that being said, I do personally agree.
>
> ten pin alley is one of the Draconis titles I've not bothered buying, sinse
> though the game has many features like adding in player names, none really
> make a massive difference to the gameplay which is pretty much like crazy
> darts when all said and done,  though with more ambience.
>
> Maybe this might be different if you had several people at one machine to
> play it with, but as a single player game, Ten pin alley for me just wasn't
> worth it, and imho Draconis should possibly considder this if they plan on
> upgrading the game.
>
> Besides, I found it far too easy to guarantee a strike every go by throwing
> at the correct place, which made the game pretty repetitive and might even
> make playing with multiple players not much fun.
>
> Then again, I'll admit sports games aren't an interest of mine, so maybe I'm
> slightly harsh in characterizing the gameplay of ten pin alley this way.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alfredo_The_Music_maker" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?
>
>
>> Actually when you buy it there is not much that you can get like most
>> other demos of first person style games, for I have played this game
>> before and it does not sound like something you want to buy, though I did
>> discover a handicapped option option in the menu thaw twas not available
>> in the demo.
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[Audyssey] game demos and full versions

[Charles Rivard]

If you get a game demo, you get the idea of the game.  Once you buy it, you 
unlock it and find that the demo scratched the surface.  Phil gave the 
benefits of buying Tenpin Alley compared to playing the demo.  SOD gives you 
the first level of the game.  Buy it and you have a heck of a lot more 
gaming fun.  Tank Commander gives 5 more levels with no time limits.  Lone 
Wolf's demo gives the first 2 of 17 missions, plus the ability to play 
almost 100 others that gamers have created.  The demo of MOTA, although 
still in testing, gives 2 out of how many levels that will be created?  My 
point is, a demo is a great way to introduce or showcase a game, and if you 
like it, you'll like the full version even more.  It's up to the gamer, but 
the full version of a demo is usually well worth the money spent.


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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?



The trouble is that most companies today, in the mainstream, don't
offer demos of games. THey offer trailors. I love our companies,
because they do offer demos, but for some people, buying the full
version should unlock loads of worlds, new equipment, etc. like in
Shades of Doom.

I think that the comment stems from games like Ten Pin Alley and to an
extent, Entombed, that do not differ in gameplay from demo to full
version, only in content. I value this difference enough to buy
Entombed, and I've considered buying Ten Pin Alley off and on,
although (no criticism intended) I enjoy Wii Sports a little more, and
I already have it.
I've often thought that, should I begin to market games once I'm
proficient enough to make them interesting, I'll offer either a
trailor, a very limited demo, or a timed demo. The first is
self-explanatory, the second is a demo like Shades of Doom, where you
run into one additional weapon and two monsters, and the third option
is like Galaxy Rangers etc.

Ten Pin Alley does rather offer a lot of itself up, but this in no way
makes purchasing the full game unreasonable.

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard



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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Hayden Presley]

HI,
You can find it by going to:
http://www.basketsim.com.
By the way, Ian, I noticed yousaid youi have a team...what is it?

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Behalf Of Imbar Golt
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

Where can one find basket sim?

Thanks,

Imbar
Ms Imbar Golt
im...@netvision.net.il
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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim


> Hi there.
> What country are you from?
> It seems to me that you are not from the United States.
> If you are from one of the European countries, my recommendation is to
> ask questions in the forums because basketsim has many European
> players.
> As matches are concerned, you have to play around with the combo boxes
> to set your line up correctly.
> For the tactics, read the manual and experiment because I can not tell
> you what your team's strengths and weaknesses are.
> Cheers,
> Maranatha!
>
>
> On 5/2/11, Bogdan Muresan  wrote:
>> I created an acount on basketsim and I recyeved my team. How to stablish
>> orders of matches more easy? I do not understand exactly. Any help would 
>> be
>> apreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> -Mesaj original-
>> From: shaun everiss
>> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:07 AM
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim
>>
>> aah.ok.
>> I could probably do it then.
>> At 10:15 a.m. 2/05/2011, you wrote:
>>>Shaun,
>>>You actually do not need to spend a whole lot of time on Basketsim--say 
>>>20
>>>minutes a day, tops.
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Hayden
>>>
>>>
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>>>Behalf Of shaun everiss
>>>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 5:03 PM
>>>To: gamers@audyssey.org
>>>Subject: [Audyssey] basket sim
>>>
>>>Hi.
>>>Blindcooltech has a podcast on basketsim.
>>>Its quite good.
>>>I don't have the time at the moment to join up yet but it sounds quite
>>>cool.
>>>
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
Well...the question of which players are the best gets complicated. Realize
that there are five positions on a basketball team: point guard, shooting
guard, small forward, power, forward, and center. Although in real lifethey
are only formalities, in Basketsim it's important you set things correctly.
For example, for a point guard you  will want a good passing, quickness, and
defense. I might be able to help you if you send me some info about your
team, but as David said you might be better checking around the basketsim
forums.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

I started today playing basketsim. I do not understand exactly what 
players are the best from my lot. Any suggestions? Who can explayn more 
tricks and arange players in matches.

-Mesaj original- 
From: Ian McNamara
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

Hi i play baskit sim my self it is a very good game and as every one says 
you don't need to spend a massive amount of time on there.

Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Charles Rivard]

In this game, are you the one who runs the team?, or do you actually 
participate in the game by using timing, aim, and quickness as one of the 
players.  Thanks.


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From: "Hayden Presley" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim



Hi,
Well...the question of which players are the best gets complicated. 
Realize

that there are five positions on a basketball team: point guard, shooting
guard, small forward, power, forward, and center. Although in real 
lifethey
are only formalities, in Basketsim it's important you set things 
correctly.
For example, for a point guard you  will want a good passing, quickness, 
and

defense. I might be able to help you if you send me some info about your
team, but as David said you might be better checking around the basketsim
forums.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

   I started today playing basketsim. I do not understand exactly what
players are the best from my lot. Any suggestions? Who can explayn more
tricks and arange players in matches.

-Mesaj original- 
From: Ian McNamara

Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

Hi i play baskit sim my self it is a very good game and as every one says
you don't need to spend a massive amount of time on there.

Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Hayden Presley]

Hi Charles,
The former. You actually own  the team.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:58 PM
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In this game, are you the one who runs the team?, or do you actually 
participate in the game by using timing, aim, and quickness as one of the 
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim


> Hi,
> Well...the question of which players are the best gets complicated. 
> Realize
> that there are five positions on a basketball team: point guard, shooting
> guard, small forward, power, forward, and center. Although in real 
> lifethey
> are only formalities, in Basketsim it's important you set things 
> correctly.
> For example, for a point guard you  will want a good passing, quickness, 
> and
> defense. I might be able to help you if you send me some info about your
> team, but as David said you might be better checking around the basketsim
> forums.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hayden
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
> Behalf Of Bogdan Muresan
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 10:20 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim
>
>I started today playing basketsim. I do not understand exactly what
> players are the best from my lot. Any suggestions? Who can explayn more
> tricks and arange players in matches.
>
> -Mesaj original- 
> From: Ian McNamara
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:57 PM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] basket sim
>
> Hi i play baskit sim my self it is a very good game and as every one says
> you don't need to spend a massive amount of time on there.
>
> Ian McNamara
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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lori,

Well, if you think that's bad you should hear ESpeak set to Scottish.
Its really really strange hearing this extremely robotic voice trying
to pull off a Scottish brogue. If it wasn't so aweful sounding it
would be funny.

On 5/3/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> No really thick broad scotish accents are quite gutterle and horrible
> sounding I think.  Although my family arn't broad scotish I too have got my
> voice so it's clear and through my drama and voice training I've managed to
> get my diction sorted too 

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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Muhammed and Ken,

Well, all I cansay right now is I'll consider it. I've got my hands
rather full right now working on the Linux cross-platform G3D Engine
as I want to release both Windows and Linux versions of beta 19
simaltaniously if I can. It will make it easier for me if I manage to
get the cross-platform engine updated now, and then I can work on both
of the versions of the game at the same time. Probably even using the
same engine if things work out as planned.

On 5/3/11, Shiny protector  wrote:
> I have to agree with Ken. This would be cool.

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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Hayden Presley]

Hi,
Myself I say let the man get this thing out the door...he has to be ready to
work on something else.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Hi Muhammed and Ken,

Well, all I cansay right now is I'll consider it. I've got my hands
rather full right now working on the Linux cross-platform G3D Engine
as I want to release both Windows and Linux versions of beta 19
simaltaniously if I can. It will make it easier for me if I manage to
get the cross-platform engine updated now, and then I can work on both
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On 5/3/11, Shiny protector  wrote:
> I have to agree with Ken. This would be cool.

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Re: [Audyssey] bug in mota

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Lori,

Question. Are you wearing any armor, using a shield, or anything like that?

 If so enemy attacks aren't as effective while wearing armor etc. If
not then we have a but of some kind. However, it is really important
for me to know what items you had when that occured.

Thanks.


On 5/3/11, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi I'm reluctent to report this bug as it's really cool, but whenever I get
> hit my health stays at excelent and never drops, but when I played the game
> for the first time I did lose health, not sure where that bug has come from,
> but am happy to have it   Also not sure if this is a bug or not, but
> I've just been poisoned by a spider thing I think, the only problem is he's
> lined up in my sights but whatever I do nothing seems to kill him, is there
> a special wepon I need?  Thanks from Lori
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Re: [Audyssey] basket sim

[Ian McNamara]

it's called blackburnrovers.

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Re: [Audyssey] Different Muds

[Dennis Towne]

Lori,

If you're still looking for MUDs, you might want to try out Alter
Aeon.  We've worked hard to make sure it's blind friendly.  You also
start out on a quest right from the beginning, so no mud school to
plod through.

Dennis Towne

Alter Aeon MUD
http://www.alteraeon.com

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi I was just wondering what people's favourite MUDs are?  I'm having this 
> problem of when I start playing a MUD there's always this MUD School you've 
> to go through, I know you can skip if you like but I preffer ones like 
> Miriani where you just start out at the landing pad.  could someone tell me 
> if there's any other MUDS out there like Miriani?  I also hate how in a lot 
> of MUDS the Jaws will give you a lot of prompts instead of just standard 
> text, I think it's called Spam but not sure   My final question is how 
> would i go about creating my own MUD when I have no clue about programming or 
> understanding the language.  Thanks from Lori.
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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Thomas Ward]

Hi Hayden,

Amen to that. I hear you there.

On 5/3/11, Hayden Presley  wrote:
> Hi,
> Myself I say let the man get this thing out the door...he has to be ready to
> work on something else.
>
> Best Regards,
> Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

As long as it's not as synister as my brothers'.

While growing up he had a severely short tonge, and would regularly make r 
sounds as double u's, combined with something of a lisp.


Now, he's a frightning lawyer and games player, and most of the time speakes 
very precisely,  unless he's about to really stick someone in the 
proverbial, either in chess, in an arguement or wherever else..


when playing chess with him hearing the words "wook to d thrwee" usually 
spell doom!


it's really quite scary!

Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota


Hi Tom I actually have a skight lisp sometimes, usually when I get nervous 
or panicky, you'd notice it more in a recording than in real life though.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota



Hi Dark,

Yeah, I do pretty much the same thing when reading e-mails. Since I
don't know what someone souhnds like I tend to associate them with the
voice of some film star, movie character, etc as well. However, as
this topic proves that can be as far from the truth as possible.

As for my own voice I manage. I've learned over the years if I want to
be pretty clear to my audience, such as speaking to a client over the
phone, I will talk a bit slower than usual  in order to make my words
clear and not slur them. Like a person who stutters I have to
consciously think about how to say some words in order to make them
loud and clear enough to be understood without repeating them. If i
don't my words will come out with a little lisp or slurring. I might
be able to do a podcast or something, but doing voice overs for menus,
status reports, i don't think would sound too good in a game.

On 5/3/11, dark  wrote:

Ouch Tom.

i'm really sorry to here this, and actually it's a major surprise.

I tend to automatically imagine people's voices when i read in a none 
audio
way especially if they are a character in a story or if I've not 
actually
heard their voice before, and in my head you actually sound pretty much 
like
kelsy gramma (possibly mangled spelling), the chap who played Frazier, 
beast

in the x men films, side show bob in the simpsons etc.

So hereing this makes for quite an odd disparity really, though sinse 
I've
not heard your voice in person I'll go on believing you sound like 
frazier

anyway ;D.

All the best,

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

Thank you sir.

Though sir forgets that butlers are always! the murderous ones ;D.

given the English sterriotype though charlse and the fact that I do have a 
rather propper accent, i can see why you thought this, though of course like 
all sterriotypes it's not really true I think.


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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[dark]

I never had sean bean in mind for tom really lori, the midlands accent sort 
of just never fitted.


i did however have Tom down for the more cultured sort of American voice, 
the type that sounds quite close to an English accent but stil 
American,  I think it's the boston accent, the way frazier speaks.


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[Audyssey] demo's was: Re: Free version tenpin alley?

[dark]

   Hi Dekota.

i'm afraid I disagree completely, my favourite demos are the none limited 
time, but limited content ones like shades of doom, entombed, sarah etc.


These allow you as nmuch time as you want to get to grips with the game, and 
essentially say "if you like it, have more of this" Which is what a demo 
should do.


By giving unlimited time however, they remove the urgency of having to make 
a decision or learn to play a complex game quickly. had lone wolf been 
limited time, I'd probably not have bought the game simply because it took 
me a good while to get the knack of playing, and indeed several times 
downloading and trying the demo (especially after people's recommendations).


Lots of games companies now, both indi ones and main stream, are offering 
demos when they develope for the pc or other systems, games like dragon age 
2 for instance.


of course the hardware restrictions in the past of putting out a single 
cartrage or disk for a console made it difficult to show demos, - though 
back in the old floppy disk days, magazines with limited content demos (eg, 
the first level of a game), were quite common for computers like the amigar 
or aple.


that's why even now games like mortal combat 9 are having downloadable demos 
on the various virtual console networks or for pc.


As regards trailers, i see trailers as a different purpose to a demo really.

a trailer i always think of more as a showing of best bits and essentially 
explosions.


Evil boss dialogue, some cunning tactics etc. However it can never show what 
a game is fully like to play.


Monkey business is one of the few games I've slightly regretted buying, 
sinse at the time there was no demo, and I went just on Kelly's review.



while this was good for showing the games' sounds and atmosphere, it didn't 
show me the problem with the game which i would've learned very quickly with 
a demo,  the navigation issue.


this is why I personally wrate limited content but unlimited time demos as 
my personal favourite option,  though of course limited content doesn't 
mean half the game, or even a quarter!


Entombed is actually a bit longer than expected I think, chiefly because the 
demo covers the same range of floors as the last beta, however I believe if 
those beta's hadn't been in the equation, the demo would've only been 
perhaps 4 floors, maybe five to show the goblin stronghold entrance, but 
certainly not include the goblin king or the drake but save those for the 
full version.


Stil, as I said, i think this is more a developement decision on Jason's 
part, sinse if the demo had less in than the last beta people would just 
play the beta instead.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Dakotah Rickard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Free version tenpin alley?



The trouble is that most companies today, in the mainstream, don't
offer demos of games. THey offer trailors. I love our companies,
because they do offer demos, but for some people, buying the full
version should unlock loads of worlds, new equipment, etc. like in
Shades of Doom.

I think that the comment stems from games like Ten Pin Alley and to an
extent, Entombed, that do not differ in gameplay from demo to full
version, only in content. I value this difference enough to buy
Entombed, and I've considered buying Ten Pin Alley off and on,
although (no criticism intended) I enjoy Wii Sports a little more, and
I already have it.
I've often thought that, should I begin to market games once I'm
proficient enough to make them interesting, I'll offer either a
trailor, a very limited demo, or a timed demo. The first is
self-explanatory, the second is a demo like Shades of Doom, where you
run into one additional weapon and two monsters, and the third option
is like Galaxy Rangers etc.

Ten Pin Alley does rather offer a lot of itself up, but this in no way
makes purchasing the full game unreasonable.

Signed:
Dakotah Rickard

On 5/3/11, dark  wrote:

not much in Demos of first person games compared to the main game?

I'm a litle confused by that comment Alfredo.

shades of doom, terraformers Gma tank commander and Sarah all have pretty
huge main games compared to what is in the demo, even dynaman and packman
talks stil have a fair amount to offer.

pluss, while the view in ten pin alley could be called first person 
siinse

the scan of the pins runs infront of you from left to right, this is
probably exaggerating the deffinition slightly, sinse for a start the 
first

person viewpoint really isn't the games distinguishing feature.

All that being said, I do personally agree.

ten pin alley is one of the Draconis titles I've not bothered buying, 
sinse
though the game has many features like adding in player names, none 
really

make a massive difference to the gameplay which is pretty much like crazy
darts when all said and done,  though with more ambience.

Maybe thi

Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Hayden Presley]

Hi Dark,
As faras I can see we Americansseem to have an accident for English that we
seem to apply across the board.

Best Regards,
Hayden

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of dark
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 5:00 PM
To: Charles Rivard; Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

Thank you sir.

Though sir forgets that butlers are always! the murderous ones ;D.

given the English sterriotype though charlse and the fact that I do have a 
rather propper accent, i can see why you thought this, though of course like

all sterriotypes it's not really true I think.

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Re: [Audyssey] For Clemant.

[Yohandy]

thanks for the offer man. If possible, I'd love to get a list of online 
menus. not sure if you're on ps3 or xbox, but if you're on xbox you 
can get them immediately. PS3 you'll have to wait for PSN to come back up. 
should be happening this week. yay!




- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Randall" 

To: "blindgamers" 
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 1:41 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] For Clemant.



Hey man did you get my email last week?  Just in case you didn't the short
version is I'm starting to play around with MK9 which I picked up last 
week

and I had written you and Yohandy to see if you guys needed any menus read
or anything as I may have some sighted help available pretty soon.  If so
just let me know either on here or direct.

Laters.

Tom

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Re: [Audyssey] game demos and full versions

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

What I have come to understand, is that usually demos try to hide the 
surprising part so that way they try to get you interested. I mean, if 
they put the surprising part in with the demo, it is useless to buy it 
since it is not a demo at all

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Re: [Audyssey] voices, was: idea for mota

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

I am one of the few that do actually.

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Re: [Audyssey] What is Core Exiles?

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Hello,
I tried to look this game up on Audio games but I do not see anything 
that talks about this game. If someone can tell me more about what this 
is that would be great.

Alfredo

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Re: [Audyssey] Idea for Mota

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Well Lori, I do not want to put this in the list, maybe I just should 
tell you off list, but I was wondering if Miscast might interview tom 
and ask him how he thinks his concatenated version of his voice is a 
help out there. If you want to yak about this more I will most 
definitely e-mail you off list.


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Re: [Audyssey] analog Weapons system

[Alfredo_The_Music_maker]

Well you would have to add different variables and counts for that to 
create an analogue I am not sure if one already exists but it sounds 
possible.


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Re: [Audyssey] What is Core Exiles?

[dark]

Hmmm Alfredo, that is most odd, sinse core exiles does have an 
audiogames.net entry (I added it myself).


http://audiogames.net/db.php?id=Core+Exiles

hth.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] What is Core Exiles?



Hello,
I tried to look this game up on Audio games but I do not see anything that 
talks about this game. If someone can tell me more about what this is that 
would be great.

Alfredo

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