Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
sorry I mistyped 1.2.4 for 1.4.2 ! > issue with RedHat > Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
Esp jdk 1.3 was a PITA under linux. afaik sun finally fixed their bugs, so it should run a lot better.. Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 10:13, Danny Angus wrote: > > One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM. > > You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of JVM and > Linux, at work we're still trying to resolve an issue with RedHat > Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, and there were significant issues with certain > earlier redhat and 1.3 combinations. > > That said these tend not to be noticable in development, and only bite you > in the arse when you proudly set your work free and watch it fail to cope > with heavy load or fail to achieve high uptimes > > But as they we say in English, c'est la vie! > > d. > > > *** > The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the > addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for > delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us > immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You > may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other > person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student > Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to > this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to > rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written > confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender > accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your > responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in > this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and > views of The Student Loans Company Limited. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the > presence of computer viruses. > > ** > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mvgr, Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
> One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM. You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of JVM and Linux, at work we're still trying to resolve an issue with RedHat Enterprise and J2sdk 1.2.4, and there were significant issues with certain earlier redhat and 1.3 combinations. That said these tend not to be noticable in development, and only bite you in the arse when you proudly set your work free and watch it fail to cope with heavy load or fail to achieve high uptimes But as they we say in English, c'est la vie! d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
Opt for one with support for NPTL - RH 9 was the first mainstream distro to have it available, but I think most of then supports it now: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaTechandLinux/RedHat/ Another aspect that I think it's very important is good fonts - that's the main reason I prefer Eclipse over Swing-based IDEs... -- Felipe On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 17:28, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. > Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM. Sun requires that a VM be certified on an exact distribution, so if you use a VM certified for Red Hat on say Mandrake, you are using a non-certified installation. I know this sound incredibly lame, but it is very important for projects like Geronimo where we are working on certifying our code, since Sun only allows a library to be certified on a certified VM. FWIU, the only linux distros with certified VMs are Red Hat (enterprise?) and Suse. -dain -- Dain Sundstrom Chief Architect Gluecode Software 310.536.8355, ext. 26 On Jan 6, 2005, at 1:00 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i'd say now that provided you go for an up-to-date distribution, you shouldn't notice much difference between most distro's when it comes to java (so you probably want to choose on some other basis). the biggest choice is how you install your java: the traditional way (stuff everything somewhere odd in /opt or /var outside the standard linux directory structure) or use a packaging system such as http://www.jpackage.org/ (which is now pretty good). i've used mandrake as a secondary java development environment for a number of years and have no complaints. i've done some work on a fedora box recently and been very impressed (i used to hate red hat). debian is very good for servers but less so for java development using a GUI. it has a well deserved reputation for being tough for newbies but is very powerful. (i installed my last server with debian and haven't had a single regret.) - robert On 6 Jan 2005, at 20:05, Alain Gaeremynck wrote: Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of. It is base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to manage the configuration of the different componant. Since i was fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from windows to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you have any specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact me off the list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related chatter Dennis Lundberg wrote: I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from? -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alain Gaeremynck CTO Le Groupe Interstructure (514) 374-1110 (514) 825-7810 cell weblog: http://www.sanssucre.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
i'd say now that provided you go for an up-to-date distribution, you shouldn't notice much difference between most distro's when it comes to java (so you probably want to choose on some other basis). the biggest choice is how you install your java: the traditional way (stuff everything somewhere odd in /opt or /var outside the standard linux directory structure) or use a packaging system such as http://www.jpackage.org/ (which is now pretty good). i've used mandrake as a secondary java development environment for a number of years and have no complaints. i've done some work on a fedora box recently and been very impressed (i used to hate red hat). debian is very good for servers but less so for java development using a GUI. it has a well deserved reputation for being tough for newbies but is very powerful. (i installed my last server with debian and haven't had a single regret.) - robert On 6 Jan 2005, at 20:05, Alain Gaeremynck wrote: Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of. It is base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to manage the configuration of the different componant. Since i was fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from windows to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you have any specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact me off the list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related chatter Dennis Lundberg wrote: I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from? -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alain Gaeremynck CTO Le Groupe Interstructure (514) 374-1110 (514) 825-7810 cell weblog: http://www.sanssucre.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
Mandrake is the most User centric desktop distro that i know of. It is base on the red hat core and it has a control panel application to manage the configuration of the different componant. Since i was fortunate enough to get a lot of help when i first switched from windows to Linux i am more then happy to return the favor so if you have any specific question related to linux don't hesitate to contact me off the list so has not to clutter it with non jakarta related chatter Dennis Lundberg wrote: I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from? -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Alain Gaeremynck CTO Le Groupe Interstructure (514) 374-1110 (514) 825-7810 cell weblog: http://www.sanssucre.ca - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?
Tbh, probably not a lot of difference, especially compared to the differences between the distros themselves. Avoid going to the *BSD's. I'd recommend not using the Java bits that come with the distro, but installing it all yourself. Otherwise, choose the distro for the other reasons. As a developer, you'll probably want to avoid the consumer Linuxes, Linspire etc. Hen On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Dennis Lundberg wrote: I'm considering moving to a Linux environment for my Java development. Which distros would be a good choice and which should one stay away from? -- Dennis Lundberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]