Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread michael



On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote:


On Monday, 23 January 2006 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this
with the Linux driver.


Here:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15118735

I read: Is it possible to have 1680*1050 displayed under Linux?
Yeah, I have a nVidia 6600 GT and a Dell 2005FPW and it works perfectly.

and here:
http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/OSAlternatifs/MDK10-xorg-geforce-6600gt-sujet-44968-1.htm
on a french list, I found this

Section "Files"
   # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
   # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
   # the X server to render fonts.
   FontPath "unix/:-1"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   #DontZap # disable  (server abort)
   #DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching)
   AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse
doesn't work
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
   Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
   Load "extmod"
   Load "type1"
   Load "freetype"
   Load "glx" # 3D layer
   Load "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Keyboard1"
   Driver "keyboard"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
   Option "XkbLayout" "fr"
   Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Mouse1"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
   Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
   Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "monitor1"
   VendorName "Generic"
   ModelName "Flat Panel 1280x1024"
   HorizSync 31.5-67
   VertRefresh 50-75

   # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
   # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
   ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563
-hsync -vsync

   # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1280x800
   ModeLine "1280x800"  147.89  1280 1376 1512 1744  800 801 804 848

   # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1680x1050
   ModeLine "1680x1050"  214.51  1680 1800 1984 2288  1050 1051 1054 1103

   # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1920x1200
   ModeLine "1920x1200" 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync
+VSync

   # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
   # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
   ModeLine "768x576" 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630

   # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
   ModeLine "768x576" 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifier "device1"
   Driver "nvidia"
   Option "NvAgp" "1"
   Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "screen1"
   Device "device1"
   Monitor "monitor1"
   DefaultColorDepth 24

   Subsection "Display"
   Depth 8
   Virtual 1280 1024
   EndSubsection

   Subsection "Display"
   Depth 15
   Virtual 1280 1024
   EndSubsection

   Subsection "Display"
   Depth 16
   Virtual 1280 1024
   EndSubsection

   Subsection "Display"
   Depth 24
   Virtual 1280 1024
   EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "layout1"
   InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
   InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
   Screen "screen1"
EndSection

It seems it did work, and these messages are dated December 2004.


From various messages it appears that some users had no problems and other did

have many. However, it looks to me that the 6600 GT does support 1680x1050.

If you're not interrested in gaming, you might settle for a 6600 (not GT),
they are slower & cheaper but should otherwise be compatible.


Excellent. Thank you very much!

Michael
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 23 January 2006 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this
> with the Linux driver.

Here:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15118735

I read: Is it possible to have 1680*1050 displayed under Linux?
Yeah, I have a nVidia 6600 GT and a Dell 2005FPW and it works perfectly.

and here: 
http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/OSAlternatifs/MDK10-xorg-geforce-6600gt-sujet-44968-1.htm
on a french list, I found this

Section "Files" 
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) 
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of 
# the X server to render fonts. 
FontPath "unix/:-1" 
EndSection 
 
Section "ServerFlags" 
#DontZap # disable  (server abort) 
#DontZoom # disable / (resolution switching) 
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse 
doesn't work 
EndSection 
 
Section "Module" 
Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension 
Load "v4l" # Video for Linux 
Load "extmod" 
Load "type1" 
Load "freetype" 
Load "glx" # 3D layer 
Load "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier "Keyboard1" 
Driver "keyboard" 
Option "XkbModel" "pc105" 
Option "XkbLayout" "fr" 
Option "XkbOptions" "" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier "Mouse1" 
Driver "mouse" 
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" 
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" 
Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Monitor" 
Identifier "monitor1" 
VendorName "Generic" 
ModelName "Flat Panel 1280x1024" 
HorizSync 31.5-67 
VertRefresh 50-75 
 
# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? 
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync 
ModeLine "1024x480"65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344   480  488  494  563 
-hsync -vsync 
 
# Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1280x800 
ModeLine "1280x800"  147.89  1280 1376 1512 1744  800 801 804 848 
 
# Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1680x1050 
ModeLine "1680x1050"  214.51  1680 1800 1984 2288  1050 1051 1054 1103 
 
# Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1920x1200 
ModeLine "1920x1200" 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync 
+VSync 
 
# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. 
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync 
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630 
 
# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync 
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616 
EndSection 
 
Section "Device" 
Identifier "device1" 
Driver "nvidia" 
Option "NvAgp" "1" 
Option "DPMS" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Screen" 
Identifier "screen1" 
Device "device1" 
Monitor "monitor1" 
DefaultColorDepth 24 
 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 8 
Virtual 1280 1024 
EndSubsection 
 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 15 
Virtual 1280 1024 
EndSubsection 
 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 16 
Virtual 1280 1024 
EndSubsection 
 
Subsection "Display" 
Depth 24 
Virtual 1280 1024 
EndSubsection 
EndSection 
 
Section "ServerLayout" 
Identifier "layout1" 
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard" 
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer" 
Screen "screen1" 
EndSection

It seems it did work, and these messages are dated December 2004.

>From various messages it appears that some users had no problems and other did 
have many. However, it looks to me that the 6600 GT does support 1680x1050.

If you're not interrested in gaming, you might settle for a 6600 (not GT), 
they are slower & cheaper but should otherwise be compatible.

Thierry

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread michael




On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote:


 On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >  Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !
> > 
> >  Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer

> >  either.
> 
>  Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip,

>  AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA
>  (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros
>  now. Works for me :-)

 You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine
 very well with a Savage IX.
 I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a
 try.

 Did not have good experiences with ATI however.


Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My
only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native
resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b)
well supported under gentoo.

Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board.


Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this
with the Linux driver.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread michael



On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote:


On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !


Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer
either.


Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip,
AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA
(GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros
now. Works for me :-)


You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine
very well with a Savage IX.
I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try.

Did not have good experiences with ATI however.


Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My
only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native
resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b)
well supported under gentoo.

Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >> Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !
> >
> > Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer
> > either.
>
> Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip,
> AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA
> (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros
> now. Works for me :-)

You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine 
very well with a Savage IX.
I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try.

Did not have good experiences with ATI however.

Thierry

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capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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[gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread Simon Kellett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>> Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !
>
> Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer
> either.

Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip,
AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA
(GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros
now. Works for me :-)

(I forgot to mention that you may wish to choose a card that is
*passively* cooled if you do not like fan noise !!)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-23 Thread Jason Weisberger
Michael,Any NVIDIA card is a home run as far as Linux drivers go.  It will even allow you to run some advanced graphical applications if you chose.  If you're looking for the most for the money, I'd either try a 6600GT or the brand new 7200, which may not be released on the market yet, I'd check on that first.  The 6600GT will generally run betweeb 115-130 and the 7200 is priced starting at 
99.00.  You should note that the 6600GT will have much better performance because of it's fast memory and the fact that it does not use TurboCache.  That uses a portion of your system RAM as video memory and really clogs things up.  You can go cheaper than the 100 dollar mark, but I really wouldn't recommend it.
JasonOn 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow:On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:>>> I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously>> something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
>> particular. Any suggestions?>> Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computereither.
>>> Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?>> I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and> receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However,
> when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI -> you have to buy a card that supports both !!Ok, that might not be so bad.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-22 Thread michael

Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow:


On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously
something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
particular.

Any suggestions?


Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !


Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer
either.





Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?


I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and
receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However,
when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI -
you have to buy a card that supports both !!


Ok, that might not be so bad.
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[gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw

2006-01-21 Thread Simon Kellett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously
> something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in
> particular.
>
> Any suggestions?

Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !

> Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog?

I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and
receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However,
when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI -
you have to buy a card that supports both !!

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