Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Completness of AVR toolset in dev-embedded?
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006, Petr Kocmid wrote: Well, now I found one: one needs to be a clearvoyant to detect that dev-embedded/avr-libc is probably supposed to be used with sys-devel/crossdev toolset generator. right. # crossdev -t avr builds avr-libc / avr-gcc-3.4.6 / avr-bin-utils-2.16.1-r2 very easy... Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Completness of AVR toolset in dev-embedded?
Petr Kocmid Petr.Kocmid at project-bhairava.org writes: I wander, what's the point of having (noncompilable) dev-embedded/avr-libc in portage when there is no avr-gcc nor avr-binutils? No good reason for this However, I found some overlay ebuilds for avr toolset at http://gentoo.zugaina.org/erazor-zone/dev-embedded.html.en going to try it. Well, in my experience with Gentoo, what's available in portage, is a function of what the 'devs' are interested in. Indeed every packages in portage needs an evangelist to keep it current and correctly patched. It seems that none of the devs are much interested in firmware, assembler, (8-16) bit micro-Controllers and many things related to embedded software development. The answer is to find an embedded person that can 'get qualified' as a dev thereby supporting the needs of the firmware community, in my opinion. It's a *DAM SHAM* Micro-Controllers, state machines and minimal executives are the heart of where electronics meet computer science. I often used Debian, as it seem to much more agressive in supporting the needs of the embedded communities Other gravitate to LFS (linux from scratch) or other distros that are more interested in supporting the needs of the embedded communities. There is a gentoo-embedded group, but it seems to be limited to x86 and PPC architectures. If I'm really desperate, I look at bugs.gentoo.org to find folks that have posted bugs, revision update requests, and such and send them email directly for ideas, and patched software builds. 'Portage Overlay' is often used when a person, with embedded tendencies, attempts to create/hack an ebuild for the greater embedded community. We are orphans with Gentoo. YMMV (peace to all) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Completness of AVR toolset in dev-embedded?
On Monday 17 April 2006 13:48, James wrote: Petr Kocmid Petr.Kocmid at project-bhairava.org writes: I wander, what's the point of having (noncompilable) dev-embedded/avr-libc in portage when there is no avr-gcc nor avr-binutils? No good reason for this Well, now I found one: one needs to be a clearvoyant to detect that dev-embedded/avr-libc is probably supposed to be used with sys-devel/crossdev toolset generator. However, for now I am quite satisfied better with Ycarus's overlay ebuilds from zugaina.org. Well, in my experience with Gentoo, what's available in portage, is a function of what the 'devs' are interested in. Indeed every packages in portage needs an evangelist to keep it current and correctly patched. It seems that none of the devs are much interested in firmware, assembler, (8-16) bit micro-Controllers and many things related to embedded software development. The answer is to find an embedded person that can 'get qualified' as a dev thereby supporting the needs of the firmware community, in my opinion. It's a *DAM SHAM* Micro-Controllers, state machines and minimal executives are the heart of where electronics meet computer science. Verily you hit the Truth! As someone who spent my young age coding on mainframes AND building 8-bits, I am quite dissatisfied with fact today's young computer specialists either have no [soldering+assembler] skills or they can't read in any of prolog/lisp/scheme/haskell, or both. It's really causing a major technology slowdown, where are all those servicing robots we in 80's were expecting to have in 2000 at our homes? ;-) Sorry everyone for shifting off topic. -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
