Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
Michael,Any NVIDIA card is a home run as far as Linux drivers go. It will even allow you to run some advanced graphical applications if you chose. If you're looking for the most for the money, I'd either try a 6600GT or the brand new 7200, which may not be released on the market yet, I'd check on that first. The 6600GT will generally run betweeb 115-130 and the 7200 is priced starting at 99.00. You should note that the 6600GT will have much better performance because of it's fast memory and the fact that it does not use TurboCache. That uses a portion of your system RAM as video memory and really clogs things up. You can go cheaper than the 100 dollar mark, but I really wouldn't recommend it. JasonOn 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow:On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. Any suggestions? Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming !Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computereither. Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog? I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However, when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI - you have to buy a card that supports both !!Ok, that might not be so bad.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) (I forgot to mention that you may wish to choose a card that is *passively* cooled if you do not like fan noise !!) -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine very well with a Savage IX. I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try. Did not have good experiences with ATI however. Thierry -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine very well with a Savage IX. I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try. Did not have good experiences with ATI however. Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b) well supported under gentoo. Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine very well with a Savage IX. I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try. Did not have good experiences with ATI however. Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b) well supported under gentoo. Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board. Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this with the Linux driver. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Monday, 23 January 2006 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this with the Linux driver. Here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15118735 I read: Is it possible to have 1680*1050 displayed under Linux? Yeah, I have a nVidia 6600 GT and a Dell 2005FPW and it works perfectly. and here: http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/OSAlternatifs/MDK10-xorg-geforce-6600gt-sujet-44968-1.htm on a french list, I found this Section Files # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection Section ServerFlags #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort) #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver keyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptions EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Generic ModelName Flat Panel 1280x1024 HorizSync 31.5-67 VertRefresh 50-75 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1280x800 ModeLine 1280x800 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1680x1050 ModeLine 1680x1050 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1920x1200 ModeLine 1920x1200 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 Driver nvidia Option NvAgp 1 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer Screen screen1 EndSection It seems it did work, and these messages are dated December 2004. From various messages it appears that some users had no problems and other did have many. However, it looks to me that the 6600 GT does support 1680x1050. If you're not interrested in gaming, you might settle for a 6600 (not GT), they are slower cheaper but should otherwise be compatible. Thierry -- The problem with the world is stupidity. Not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself? Frank Zappa -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this with the Linux driver. Here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15118735 I read: Is it possible to have 1680*1050 displayed under Linux? Yeah, I have a nVidia 6600 GT and a Dell 2005FPW and it works perfectly. and here: http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/OSAlternatifs/MDK10-xorg-geforce-6600gt-sujet-44968-1.htm on a french list, I found this Section Files # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection Section ServerFlags #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort) #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver keyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptions EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Generic ModelName Flat Panel 1280x1024 HorizSync 31.5-67 VertRefresh 50-75 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1280x800 ModeLine 1280x800 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1680x1050 ModeLine 1680x1050 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1920x1200 ModeLine 1920x1200 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 Driver nvidia Option NvAgp 1 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer Screen screen1 EndSection It seems it did work, and these messages are dated December 2004. From various messages it appears that some users had no problems and other did have many. However, it looks to me that the 6600 GT does support 1680x1050. If you're not interrested in gaming, you might settle for a 6600 (not GT), they are slower cheaper but should otherwise be compatible. Excellent. Thank you very much! Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. Any suggestions? Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog? I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However, when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI - you have to buy a card that supports both !! Ok, that might not be so bad. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. Any suggestions? Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog? I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However, when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI - you have to buy a card that supports both !! -- Simon Kellett,| Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox Darmstadt, Germany| Xemacs, Vm, Gnus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
