Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-09 Thread David Cousens
David

It does but I limited the number of backups kept in the GnuCash preferences
by not retaining backups for more than 30 days. For my usage of GnuCash this
generally gives me enough recovery. I also have backup to a NAS of the
primary GnuCash file which is part of a monthly full backup with daily
incrementals backups.  I don't use my Dropbox for too much else so I am
nowhere near approaching my free storage limit with it.

David



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-08 Thread David Carlson
David,

Does that method create scads of automatic backups in the Dropbox folder?

David Carlson

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 7:26 PM David Cousens 
wrote:

> Bob
>
> I have been using Dropbox to do this between 2 Linux computers (desktop and
> laptop) and a Windows10 laptop for several years now. The files usually
> sync
> within a minute or two of making any local  changes on any one computer
> when
> the others are connected to the network. The dropbox daemon seems to
> respond
> to changes of the content directly as they occur and not work ona time
> schedule. You do have to be careful not to have or leave files open on
> multiple computers at the same time however.
>
> You do need to download and setup the requisite Dropbox daemons on each
> machine and link them to the same Dropbox account but once that is done it
> is almost totally transparent. Usually there is a link on the signin page
> for Dropbox on the web which will download the app. Usually sense the OS
> and
> downloads the appropriate version. not familiar with Macs. Most Linux
> distros have the dropbox daemon available for their software sources.
> Windows 10i think you can also get from the store.
>
> Originally I copied my datafile to my dropbox account using the web
> interface and then setup the Dropbox folder on each machine to sync to the
> account on their server. Then used file open from within GnuCash to
> navigate
> to the local Dropbox account on each machine to open it. After that it
> should Save to the local Dropbox account copy you opened it from which will
> then sync to the server folder and in turn sync to the other computers.
>
> David Cousens
>
>
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-08 Thread David Cousens
Bob

I have been using Dropbox to do this between 2 Linux computers (desktop and
laptop) and a Windows10 laptop for several years now. The files usually sync
within a minute or two of making any local  changes on any one computer when
the others are connected to the network. The dropbox daemon seems to respond
to changes of the content directly as they occur and not work ona time
schedule. You do have to be careful not to have or leave files open on
multiple computers at the same time however. 

You do need to download and setup the requisite Dropbox daemons on each
machine and link them to the same Dropbox account but once that is done it
is almost totally transparent. Usually there is a link on the signin page
for Dropbox on the web which will download the app. Usually sense the OS and
downloads the appropriate version. not familiar with Macs. Most Linux
distros have the dropbox daemon available for their software sources.
Windows 10i think you can also get from the store. 

Originally I copied my datafile to my dropbox account using the web
interface and then setup the Dropbox folder on each machine to sync to the
account on their server. Then used file open from within GnuCash to navigate
to the local Dropbox account on each machine to open it. After that it
should Save to the local Dropbox account copy you opened it from which will
then sync to the server folder and in turn sync to the other computers.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-08 Thread Greg Feneis
Bob,

Adrien has it right.  See below.

Just a few notes

You can test by saving your GnuCash working file on computer 1 as with some
easy to find specific name in that computer's dropbox folder.

Before you stop using computer 1, check the Dropbox icon in the
notification area (assuming Windows). It should either indicate that
syncing is complete, or that it's still trying to sync. Don't shut down
computer 1 until sync is finished ;-)

To confirm the file was synced on computer 1, the icon in the notification
area should also have an option like visit Dropbox.com.  Click that
(browser opens...) and navigate to the file. If it's not there, then it
didn't sync. In the same icon, you can stop synching, then start synching.
Dropbox will check the Dropbox folder on the computer and make sure it is
synced with the cloud.

At computer 2, you can check the Dropbox icon in the tray, if it says
synching is complete, the file should be in the Dropbox folder. If not, you
can stop synching on computer 2 and then start it synching again.

It usually doesn't take this much micromanaging, but this is how you can do
it if needed


Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Thu, Aug 8, 2019, 11:30 Adrien Monteleone 
wrote:

> I haven’t used Dropbox in some time, but as I recall, you could access it
> directly or you could sync local folders to it.
>
> I’d think the local folder sync would be the best route for GnuCash. That
> way, each computer is writing to the local file system. This will improve
> save speed, remove occasion of network hiccups during the save, and
> avoiding any issues with GnuCash accessing remote file paths.
>
> So re-save the file on computer 1 in a folder on computer 1, then sync
> that folder to Dropbox.
>
> On computer 2, link the synced folder on Dropbox to a similarly named
> folder.
>
> When you save on computer 1, it will save locally, then sync to cloud.
>
> When you open computer 2, it will sync from cloud and then GnuCash will
> open locally.
>
> When you save on computer 2, the same process will happen in reverse.
>
> Other still current users of GnuCash and Dropbox might have other/better
> recommendations.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
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> > On Aug 8, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Bob Sisk  wrote:
> >
> > I thought I understood how to do this but I am confused - trying to run
> Gnucash on second computer and having access to the same data file. I
> thought I was keeping my data file on Dropbox - that is the one I open and
> enter data. When I go to secondary computer and open Gnucash the file has
> not been updated. Should I click “save as” and direct to Dropbox when
> closing the program and then navigating to that file in Dropbox and opening
> it? Is there a way to auto sync the data file to both computers? Or is
> there a totally different and better approach to do this? Help appreciated.
> >
> > Robert L Sisk
> > sisk@gmail.com
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-08 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I haven’t used Dropbox in some time, but as I recall, you could access it 
directly or you could sync local folders to it.

I’d think the local folder sync would be the best route for GnuCash. That way, 
each computer is writing to the local file system. This will improve save 
speed, remove occasion of network hiccups during the save, and avoiding any 
issues with GnuCash accessing remote file paths.

So re-save the file on computer 1 in a folder on computer 1, then sync that 
folder to Dropbox.

On computer 2, link the synced folder on Dropbox to a similarly named folder.

When you save on computer 1, it will save locally, then sync to cloud.

When you open computer 2, it will sync from cloud and then GnuCash will open 
locally.

When you save on computer 2, the same process will happen in reverse.

Other still current users of GnuCash and Dropbox might have other/better 
recommendations.

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - when replying to a digest, please copy/paste the subject you are 
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simply send the message to gnucash-user@gnucash.org, your e-mail client will 
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> On Aug 8, 2019, at 12:49 PM, Bob Sisk  wrote:
> 
> I thought I understood how to do this but I am confused - trying to run 
> Gnucash on second computer and having access to the same data file. I thought 
> I was keeping my data file on Dropbox - that is the one I open and enter 
> data. When I go to secondary computer and open Gnucash the file has not been 
> updated. Should I click “save as” and direct to Dropbox when closing the 
> program and then navigating to that file in Dropbox and opening it? Is there 
> a way to auto sync the data file to both computers? Or is there a totally 
> different and better approach to do this? Help appreciated. 
> 
> Robert L Sisk
> sisk@gmail.com


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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 197, Issue 15

2019-08-08 Thread Bob Sisk
I thought I understood how to do this but I am confused - trying to run Gnucash 
on second computer and having access to the same data file. I thought I was 
keeping my data file on Dropbox - that is the one I open and enter data. When I 
go to secondary computer and open Gnucash the file has not been updated. Should 
I click “save as” and direct to Dropbox when closing the program and then 
navigating to that file in Dropbox and opening it? Is there a way to auto sync 
the data file to both computers? Or is there a totally different and better 
approach to do this? Help appreciated. 

Robert L Sisk
sisk@gmail.com


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> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 10:16:18 +0200
> From: Geert Janssens 
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash fails to run after upgrade from Ubuntu
>14.04 to 16.04
> Message-ID: <3281791.952hr9h...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan>
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> Op donderdag 8 augustus 2019 08:41:33 CEST schreef James E:
>> I  used to run  Gnucash 2.6.12  in Ubuntu 14.04 .
>> 
>> I upgraded  to Ubuntu 16.04. During the upgrade  I was asked if I wanted
>> to keep several Gnucash   files/piece of information ? one of which was 
>> the Alpha Advantage API key .  I replied that I did .
>> 
>> The upgrade appeared to have finished successfully  . All of the
>> programmes/applications worked   but  with  one exception ? Gnucash.
>> 
>> The Gnucash loading screen and the tip of the day showed  up for a several
>> seconds
>> and both disappeared  again.
>> 
>> I  then decided to install  Gnucash  from the  Ubuntu Software centre ?
>> hoping that this would be compatible with 16.04   . So I removed the
>> existing  Gnucash  using the Ubuntu Software centre and installed Gnucash  .
>> 
>> This failed  in the same way - the Gnucash loading screen and the tip of the
>> day showed up for a several seconds  and both disappeared again.
>> 
>> I found from research that Ubuntu repositories usually contain a version of
>> Gnucash that is a release or two behind the latest stable version and  that
>> Gnucash 2.6.12 is included in Ubuntu 16.04 ?  this is the  same Gnucash
>> version as I was using   in Ubuntu  14.04 .
>> 
>> 
>> I give below  the terminal output  when I tried to run Gnucash :
>> 
>> jm@jm-OptiPlex-9020:~$ gnucash
>> ;;; note: auto-compilation is enabled, set GUILE_AUTO_COMPILE=0
>> ;;;   or pass the --no-auto-compile argument to disable.
>> ;;; compiling /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/business-gnome.scm
>> ;;; compiling /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm
>> ;;; WARNING: compilation of
>> /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm failed:
>> ;;; ERROR: In procedure #: Unbound variable:
>> gnc:menuname-business-reports
>> ;;; WARNING: compilation of
>> /usr/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/business-gnome.scm failed:
>> ;;; ERROR: In procedure #: Unbound variable:
>> gnc:menuname-business-reports
>> Backtrace:
>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>> 157: 11 [catch #t # ...]
>> In unknown file:
>>   ?: 10 [apply-smob/1 #]
>>   ?: 9 [call-with-input-string "(gnc:report-menu-setup)" ...]
>> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>> 2401: 8 [save-module-excursion #> ice-9/eval-string.scm:65:9 ()>]
>> In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>>  44: 7 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>>  37: 6 [lp (gnc:report-menu-setup)]
>> In gnucash/report/report-gnome.scm:
>> 155: 5 [gnc:report-menu-setup]
>> In unknown file:
>>   ?: 4 [gnc-hook-run "hook_report" ()]
>> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>> 387: 3 [eval # #]
>> 387: 2 [eval # #]
>> 393: 1 [eval # #> 561137149870>]
>> In unknown file:
>>   ?: 0 [memoize-variable-access! # #]
>> 
>> ERROR: In procedure memoize-variable-access!:
>> ERROR: