[Goanet]31 OCT 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS Oct 31, 2004 GOACOM VIDEO NEWS: Video Clip from Goa on the first Session of HERITAGE JAZZ YATRA organised by Armando Gonsalves of Trancemedia at Rebelo Mansion at Betalbatim on October 10, 2004, at http://www.goacom.com/news Clips_Heritage_Jazz Yatra_1: CHECK the latest issue of GoaNOW webzine at http://www.goacom.com/goanow COUNCIL MUSICAL CHAIRS: While the Mormugao Municipal Council in Vasco - and more recently in Mapusa Municipal Council - has been rocked by these power struggles to the detriment of progress, it has now come to light that 11 out of the 20 councillors of the Mormugao Body had signed an agreement between themselves to provide 'a stable and efficient Council'.it was unanimously resolved by them when they endorsed it on 14 February, 2003, that they would share the 'hot seat' among themselves till October 2004. (WE-GT) SEX TRADE CRACKED: Four young girls allegedly involved in sex trade in the coastal belt of Calangute were arrested along with two other persons after the CID/Crime branch laid a trap for them on Saturday. The four girls are said to be from the north east region and were in the age group of 22 to 24. The action against sex trade activities follows complaints by the villagers of Calangute and the co-operation extended by the police in curbing the menace. (WE-GT) SAFETY MEASURES AT OLD GOA: In its report submitted to Archaeological Survey of India, the Directorate of Fire and Emergency Services has recommended a number of fire protection measures to be implemented in the heritage buildings of Basilica of Bom Jesus and Se Cathedral premises at Old Goa. Consequent to the major fire on October 21 that is estimated to have caused a loss of more than Rs.50 lakh, the Directorate conducted a fire protection survey of the building for assessment of specific risk at the heritage site. (H) CURTORIM RESIDENTS OPPOSE PLANT: The citizens of Curtorim held a meeting on October 30 to oppose the proposed setting up of a new industrial plant, a cellular base station and a housing project comprising of about 140 dwelling units. (NT) TARGETS FOR FIRE MISHAPS: With nearly 80 per cent of the industrial units without the mandatory No-Objection Certificates from the Ponda fire services, the three industrial estates in Kundaim, Marcaim and Bethora in Ponda taluka have become perfect targets for major fire mishaps. (H) MAG MEET TODAY: The Motorcycle Action Group has convened on Sunday a public meeting at the Menezes Braganza Hall, Panaji, to protest the helmet rule and the "undue harassment" being meted out to them by the state police. (WE-GT) LURE OF GOA: The tourism season is on the roll and the lure of Goa is not only attracting millionaires but also destitute orphans. (NT) BODY FOUND IN A WELL: Calangute police have recovered a body of an unidentified male aged about 35 years from a well at Candolim. (WE-GT) REFRAIN FROM BURNING NARKASUR: The Corporation of the City of Panaji has appealed to the public to refrain from burning effigies of Narkasur on the roads during the early hours of the Diwali day, that is November 11. (NT) WHEEL-CHAIR FACILITY FOR SICK, DISABLED: The sick and the disabled who would wish to pay homage to Goencho Saib during the Exposition will be provided with special facilities at the venue. (H) MINOR BOY MOLESTS GIRL: A resident of Divar complained that a 14-year-old boy trespassed into his home, confined his minor daughter in the house and then proceeded to undress the girl. The boy then allegedly outraged the modesty of the girl. (WE-GT) NRI CENTRE SEMINAR ON GOAN HERITAGE: Contributing to efforts towards the preservation of Goa's culture and heritage, not only for local residents but also for visiting NRI Goans, the NRI Facilitation Centre is organizing a one-day seminar on "Goan Heritage" at Margao on November 6, 2004. The chairman of the NRI Facilitation Centre, Mr Chandrakant Keni told The Navhind Times that Goa's tradition needed to be preserved. (NT) BRITON HELD WITH DRUGS: The anti-narcotic cell of the Goa police arrested a British national, Martin Hughes, on drug charges after three type of narcotics were allegedly found in his room at Anjuna two days ago. (H) LOUTULIM VILLAGERS COMPLAIN: Villagers from Loutulim have complained that the Town & Country Planning department is being discriminatory in the implementation of one of its notifications regarding setbacks for different construction along the entire stretch ranging from Borim Junction via Loutulim market. (WE-GT) DEMAND FOR ACTION AGAINST MAMLATDAR: One Egidio Braganza, a resident of Altinho-Mapu
[Goanet]Iffy Angle on IFFI
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Re: S. Rys' on Goa being up and running for IFFI of Oct 30 My friend, yours is the veritable "voice in the wilderness"! It seems what most people here only care about is the moola to be made (from road type project contracts, spiralling real estate values, juicy rents etc etc). No one is bothered about the filmi aspects of the festival! The spirit of Cannes is not at all in evidence at least so far on the very eve of the festival's Goa avatar. Sure, we will muddle through. Maybe next year people will give proper thought to the filmi aspects provided IFFI 2004 is not a disaster literally or figuratively speaking and Goa continues as the permanent venue as orginially designated. Keep your fingers crossed!
Re: [Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry and save the world
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## --- Bosco D'Mello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >It's more about don't vote for Dubya - the greater of >the two evils. > Wrong! There is nothing evil about Kerry, or for that matter, about Bush. This is not an election of the lesser of two evils. Self-important cynical remarks like these, made in the above post, are insulting to the genuine sentiments of the voters in this election, especially when made by people who are marginally aware of, or uninterested in, the important issues at stake. > >Kerry remains the un-Presidential looking President->wannabe !! > Nonsense! The debates showed Kerry to be much more presidential than Bush. Indeed, Bush looked like a bumbling clown in his presence. > >On most serious issues, there has been little or no >evidence that Kerry would reverse policies that Dubya >has formulated and implemented..it's all about >being at the right (wrong) place at the right (wrong) >time !! > Wrong again! Kerry would reverse almost every Bush policy. For example, he would repeal the irresponsible tax cut for the wealthy. He would re-introduce and re-enforce responsible environmental regulations. He would extend health care to the uninsured. He would not privatize social security. He would renegotiate the global climate change treaty. He would reverse the ban on embryonic stem cell research. He would enforce fairness in international trade agreements. He would ensure that the anti-terrorism laws do not compromise individual liberties, civil rights and basic human rights. He would re-impose the assault weapons ban. He would invite international cooperation and commitment in securing and rebuilding Iraq. He would not fight unnecessary wars. He would promote diplomacy in solving international problems. He would stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons to multilateral and bilateral agreements. He would promote research into alternative sources of energy. He would not be beholden to corporate interests. He would reduce the ballooning deficit, pay down the national debt and impose fiscal discipline once again. He would support public education and make college education more accessible to everybody. He would adopt smarter, more efficient and more effective anti-terrorism measures, e.g. by holding countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan more accountable. He would not infuse ideology and religion into the affairs of the public. He would not support the amendment of the constitution for trivial ideological reasons. He would not appoint ideologically driven supreme court justices. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Road names
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## >On Friday, corporators agreed to drop names like Rua de Ourem, Rua Gov make way for Goan freedom fighters Mark Fernandes, Peter Alvares, and
[Goanet]Re: Vote Kerry and save the world
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## On Fri, Oct 29 15:08:28 2004, samir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To the US citizens among GoaNet members: > This is a fervent appeal. You have an important and sacred duty in the > next few days. It is to save the world. A vote for Kerry will save the > world; a vote for Bush will I am afraid take us to a further mess. RESPONSE: Samir, considering what transpired in Poinguin after you implored Goanetters not to vote for I. Ferns...one can only foretell the results of the US election.:-) Some Goanetters have shared some wonderful insights and analysis of why Americans should vote for or against Dubya.While The Economist, Harpers, Foreign Affairs and other such intellectual media in nearly all streams of soceity have openly written about incoherent policies of Dubya's administration..very few make a case to vote for Kerry instead. It's more about don't vote for Dubya - the greater of the two evils. Kerry remains the un-Presidential looking President-wannabe !! On most serious issues, there has been little or no evidence that Kerry would reverse policies that Dubya has formulated and implemented..it's all about being at the right (wrong) place at the right (wrong) time !! Not to be outdone in this media frenzy, even O. B-laden has stepped into the limelight with the release of his new video that came in straight at number 1 on the News Networks. It's obvious he wants Dubya to win.for now it appears he feels Dubya is the only one he can rely on to perpetuate violence against Americans. In recent US history, a President's second term has been pernicious to their self-image - Reagan (Iran-Contra) and Clinton (Lewinsky-gate). So even if Dubya rides back into 1600 Penn Ave on his Elephant-faced steed.there possibly could be further hiccups than those witnessed in his first term. If Dubya loses Tuesday nightor in December - assuming they are still counting in FL.;-).Leno, Letterman, O'Brien and the other stand-ups will not be short on Presidential jokes as Kerry has been a regular feature of their repertoire. Heckit's the last Saturday before the US elections.could well be the last night for Dubya-jokes on Saturday-Night-Live.I'm tuning out of here into Live-from-New-York:-) Best wishes - Bosco --- Goanet - http://www.goanet.org - Goa's premier mailing list is 10 years old
[Goanet]Goa's 'fun' image in no danger: Deccan Herald. 30 Oct. By Devika Sequeira
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Headline: Goa's 'fun' image in no danger Byline: An attempt to present the 'other' face of Goa did not gather support from the Union Minister of Tourism, Renuka Chowdhary at the Goa Mahotsav held in Delhi. BY DEVIKA SEQUEIRA Source: Deccan Herald. 30 October 2004 at: http://67.18.142.206/deccanherald/oct302004/n8.asp Full text: It isn't clear what image of Goa the BJP-led government here proposes to promote during the International Film Festival of India (IFFI), which is being viewed as a great tourism boost for the state. If he had his way Goa's Minister for Art and Culture Ramrao Dessai would like to "erase the false image of Goa as a land of fun, feni and frolic" and "westernised" society. The Goa government has organised a six-day Goa Mahotsav in New Delhi to project the 'other' face of this state. But Mr Dessai's pronouncement on Tuesday in Delhi before an audience of mainly non-resident Goans and the Union Minister for Tourism Renuka Chowdhary fell somewhat flat when the event's joint organisers, Goenkaracho Ekvott distributed miniature bottles of feni to dignitaries and members of the media. More embarrassing still, Ms Chowdhary decided to snub the minister for his comments. Goa she said, represented the beautiful beaches, the smell of feni and pork 'vindaloo'. "There is no better place for Christmas and New Year in the country," the union minister remarked even as she promised to promote the state as India's number-one tourist destination. Poorly organised event Mr Dessai's characteristic remarks were not the only glitch at the poorly organised Delhi event. An 80-member dance troupe that travelled all the way from Goa ended up performing before an audience of barely 20 persons at the Siri Fort Auditorium as Goan officials had forgotten to send out invitations. Meanwhile the event management of the film festival being held in Goa from November 29 to December 9 has been given to the Times Group's 360 Degrees, the state government announced recently. The company is being paid Rs 37 lakh to handle the screening of films on the beach, entertainment and ushering at the multiplexes, a government spokesman said. = Forwarded by Eddie Fernandes Thought: Is the Kala Academy an official alcohol-free zone? Will it remain so for IFFI? I should be able to let you know in due course since my wife is an official IFFI delegate and we are timing out Goa holiday to coincide with the event. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.782 / Virus Database: 528 - Release Date: 22/10/2004
[Goanet]GoanetReader -- Goa's main corporation switches 21 road names
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOA'S MAIN CORPORATION SWITCHES 21 ROAD NAMES, FOUR DECADES LATER >From Pamela D'Mello (The Asian Age) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Panaji, Oct 30: Corporators of state capital Panaji okayed proposals to drop Portuguese names from 21 roads in the city and re-anoint them to honour freedom fighters and eminent personalities. The exercise comes nearly four decades after Portugal's ouster from its former west coast enclave and is the second name change exercise to drop the names of Portuguese governors and personalities. Panaji's arterial main roads had already been renamed in the past --- after Mahatma Gandhi, Dayanand Bandodkar (Goa's first chief minister) and T B Cunha (Goan freedom fighter). Minor road names -- little known even to residents of this small town --- were however retained until now. Road nomenclature became an issue once again when freedom fighters and saffron groups in the state took offence to plaques and sign posts that publicised the "pro-Portuguese' names during heritage restoration and city upgrade projects in recent months. On Friday, corporators agreed to drop names like Rua de Ourem, Rua Gov Texeira de Silva, Rua Cruzador Admastor, Rua Diago de Couto among others and make way for Goan freedom fighters Mark Fernandes, Peter Alvares, and Viswanath Lawande. The name changing exercise was not without acrimony. In June this year, saffron groups vandalised sign posts and plaques to make their point in a state that plays up its Iberian westernised image to create its tourism unique selling-point. Starred hotels in the state opt for flamboyant Portuguese words and imagery to create ambiance and bolster sales. Meanwhile, city administrators have also decided to crack down on begging and hawking in its bid to spruce up the city for the November 29 international film festival of India. Rs 100 crore (Rs 1000 million) have been sunk into putting up infrastructure along a narrow strip of waterfront road. --- GOANET-READER WELCOMES contributions from its readers, by way of essays, reviews, features and think-pieces. We share quality Goa-related writing among the 7000-strong readership of the Goanet/Goanet-news network of mailing lists. If you appreciated the thoughts expressed above, please send in your feedback to the writer. Our writers write -- or share what they have written -- pro bono, and deserve hearing back from those who appreciate their work. GoanetReader welcomes feedback. Post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Goanet, 1994-2004, building community and social capital for a decade. ---
[Goanet]The second Pinto revolt : Panjim Parrikar ani Pinto Hic!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Cecil Pinto Sat Oct 30 08:56:01 2004 As a person who lives in Miramar and works in Panjim I would suggest that you keep your sympathy for Panjim residents to yourselves.> Dear Mr. Pinto, I do know that you have some difficulty with the understanding of the differences between (1) Owning property in a place (2) Residency and (3) Voting in an election. That is understandable. I know too that you have some difficulty in the understanding of the differences between North, Central and South of a State in any particular country (say) in the US. That is understandable. Do you also have a problem the comprehension of the English language? jc _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]GoanetReader -- Goa's main corporation switches 21 road names...
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## GOA'S MAIN CORPORATION SWITCHES 21 ROAD NAMES, FOUR DECADES LATER >From Pamela D'Mello (The Asian Age) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Panaji, Oct 30: Corporators of state capital Panaji okayed proposals to drop Portuguese names from 21 roads in the city and re-anoint them to honour freedom fighters and eminent personalities. The exercise comes nearly four decades after Portugal's ouster from its former west coast enclave and is the second name change exercise to drop the names of Portuguese governors and personalities. Panaji's arterial main roads had already been renamed in the past --- after Mahatma Gandhi, Dayanand Bandodkar (Goa's first chief minister) and T B Cunha (Goan freedom fighter). Minor road names -- little known even to residents of this small town --- were however retained until now. Road nomenclature became an issue once again when freedom fighters and saffron groups in the state took offence to plaques and sign posts that publicised the "pro-Portuguese' names during heritage restoration and city upgrade projects in recent months. On Friday, corporators agreed to drop names like Rua de Ourem, Rua Gov Texeira de Silva, Rua Cruzador Admastor, Rua Diago de Couto among others and make way for Goan freedom fighters Mark Fernandes, Peter Alvares, and Viswanath Lawande. The name changing exercise was not without acrimony. In June this year, saffron groups vandalised sign posts and plaques to make their point in a state that plays up its Iberian westernised image to create its tourism unique selling-point. Starred hotels in the state opt for flamboyant Portuguese words and imagery to create ambiance and bolster sales. Meanwhile, city administrators have also decided to crack down on begging and hawking in its bid to spruce up the city for the November 29 international film festival of India. Rs 100 crore (Rs 1000 million) have been sunk into putting up infrastructure along a narrow strip of waterfront road. --- GOANET-READER WELCOMES contributions from its readers, by way of essays, reviews, features and think-pieces. We share quality Goa-related writing among the 7000-strong readership of the Goanet/Goanet-news network of mailing lists. If you appreciated the thoughts expressed above, please send in your feedback to the writer. Our writers write -- or share what they have written -- pro bono, and deserve hearing back from those who appreciate their work. GoanetReader welcomes feedback. Post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Goanet, 1994-2004, building community and social capital for a decade. ---
Re: [Goanet]IFFI and sponsored news item
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## oh people of goean!! its too late to debate on the IFFI subject. The event is set for take off as sceduled and no GOAN/PARDESI GOAN can stop this from happening. As SAMIR states that the CRORES invested in the IFFI could have been used to build up the basic facilities the city lacks. You need to agitate the GOAN living in GOA The press/media today is the best source for exposing the scams and scamsters... Is it possible in GOA. We have journalists who bring up topics and then quickly dissapear from the scene... GOA NEEDS A TEHELKA If you all know what tehelka means... law new immigrant (not bhailo) pune/baga/kuwait = == Men are like steel: when they lose their temper, they lose their worth. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: [Goanet]The iffi angle on IFFI
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Parrikar has been selling goa left,right and centre. I don't think an average GOAN knows what this IFFI is about. The IITian has taken this decision to impress Delhi during the BJP RAJ. No fully developed metro accepted to host the IFFI but our genius stepped forward with his scheme... MP knew the IFFI was no gain but personal GAIN. He is also aware of the weakness and the attitude of the goan public. They will shout for a while and there shut up. Beside most are engaged in 'bring down thy neighbor"business. who cares hats happening in Panjim. If the panjimites were so strong they could have protested...but they didnot. the folks will make noice and eventually retire at the tavern...gossip...gossip...gossip eg. ISIDORE and his re election has proved it all... > > Samir wrote... > > > > It is ironical that some people based in the > Middle East are boot-licking > > Parrikar. I have a feeling this camoflagued news > item is sponsored by the > > 15 crores of your and my money. --- Seb dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How true!! Shame on those who do...and think of > those who have made a > fortune in IFFI name. > = == Men are like steel: when they lose their temper, they lose their worth. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: [Goanet]IFFI and the "sponsored" news item
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "samir_kelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:13 pm Subject: Re: IFFI makes Goa CM Hero No. 1 This issue was discussed recently at http://www.indialists.org/pipermail/goajourno/2004-October/001739.html Please see the linked thread. FN
[Goanet]IFFI and sponsored news item
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Dear Gaspar, The above comment from Samirbab is most unfortunate and pointedly unfair. >There are many gold diggers amongst us - but NOT Gaspar Almeida. While I do not have a logical understanding of the reasons of Gaspar's continuous and quite unreasonable support of Parrikar, I have not meant that Gaspar is being paid for posting this news item. However, what I am asking is whether the news item could be generated out of a PR agency (some news media) which is sponsored through this Rs. 150 crores. regards, Samir >Ican safely say that I KNOW of the selflessness with which Gaspar Almeida has helped Goans especially in the aftermath of the 1991 invasion of Kuwait. I don't know Gasparbab, IF any of those Goans even said Thank You to you - in return. But life is such. Kam Zalem, Voiz Melo, or as the Marathi saying goes "Kama purta Mama". Even today Gasparbab, I KNOW that you personally assist MANY a Goan business in Goa - without expecting or receiving a single cent in return. If there are ANY of those on this net, I hope they will write in and confirm this. Having said that, Gasparbab, Samir is one of the good guys. He makes a very good point. I agree with his concerns. Further to the concerns raised, I ask (yes, from half way around the globe): WAS this 150 crore IFFI project THE priority for Goa at this point and time? Do we have clean bedsheets in our hospitals? Do Goans deserve clean bedsheets in their hospitals? Are all the IMPORTANT machines working at GMC? Are the roads of Goa fixed up to safety standards? Do Goa's street lights provide adequate illumination? Are the schools OK? Are Goa's poor and elderly taken care of? Are the Goa Freedom Fighters (only the real ones...not those anarchists or these NEW 2004 emotional Freedom Fighters ) provided for? etc etc These are genuine concerns. Perhaps the Goa patrakars have been asking these questions ad nauseam. If so, Do forgive my queries from afar. BTW: I went on to the Panjim.net site. You said that it did contain some (was it 1997-8) episodes of A View from Afar. Could you please post the url for those posts? It will be interesting to see what was said a good 6 or so years ago. good wishes >c please visit "NEW" on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]The 'masochistic' people of Panjim don't need your sympathy
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:23 AM Subject: [Goanet]The 'masochistic' people of Panjim don't need your sympathy Dear Philip and Jose, As a person who lives in Miramar and works in Panjim I would suggest that you keep your sympathy for Panjim residents to yourselves. The CM is the Panjim MLA. Panjim is the Capital City. Crores of money are being poured into Panjim. While the recession in the building industry is still to recover in the rest of Goa, real estate prices in Panjim are going through the roof. We have infrastructure, services and facilities that no other city in Goa has. We complain because "we are like that only". But you don't see any of us moving to Margao or Mapusa or Ponda do you? Why should we when the world is coming to our doorstep? So just keep paying your taxes properly and in time and watch with envy as all your money is put into bettering Panjim. While the Ponjekars laugh all the way to the bank as they rent out their properties at rates comparable to Singapore! Cheers! Cecil RESPONSE: I am so happy for you and other Panjimites, If rents have reached the heady heights of Singapore, why not move out and live on the rent? It now transpires that the 4 multiplexes is just one cinema with 4 screens, ( as mentioned by Philip Thomas). I don't live in the centre of London - rather, Greater London, my local cinema has 15 screens I think! In due course I shall rent my place up and move to Goa, hopefully renting at a rate higher than H.K. and S'pore. I keep urging my fellow Goenkars to move to Goa, where they can enjoy life and at the same time help the economy! Unfortunately there are no takers - I believe partly, because of the bad press about Road fatalities and the Goa Medical College bed sheets! It does not help when many are putting Goa down! I say follow the example of Viviano D'Souza. Cheers, Gabe.
[Goanet]IFFI and the "sponsored" news item
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## From: "samir_kelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:13 pm Subject: Re: IFFI makes Goa CM Hero No. 1 Dear Gaspar, The above comment from Samirbab is most unfortunate and pointedly unfair. There are many gold diggers amongst us - but NOT Gaspar Almeida. I can safely say that I KNOW of the selflessness with which Gaspar Almeida has helped Goans especially in the aftermath of the 1991 invasion of Kuwait. I don't know Gasparbab, IF any of those Goans even said Thank You to you - in return. But life is such. Kam Zalem, Voiz Melo, or as the Marathi saying goes "Kama purta Mama". Even today Gasparbab, I KNOW that you personally assist MANY a Goan business in Goa - without expecting or receiving a single cent in return. If there are ANY of those on this net, I hope they will write in and confirm this. Having said that, Gasparbab, Samir is one of the good guys. He makes a very good point. I agree with his concerns. Further to the concerns raised, I ask (yes, from half way around the globe): WAS this 150 crore IFFI project THE priority for Goa at this point and time? Do we have clean bedsheets in our hospitals? Do Goans deserve clean bedsheets in their hospitals? Are all the IMPORTANT machines working at GMC? Are the roads of Goa fixed up to safety standards? Do Goa's street lights provide adequate illumination? Are the schools OK? Are Goa's poor and elderly taken care of? Are the Goa Freedom Fighters (only the real ones...not those anarchists or these NEW 2004 emotional Freedom Fighters ) provided for? etc etc These are genuine concerns. Perhaps the Goa patrakars have been asking these questions ad nauseam. If so, Do forgive my queries from afar. BTW: I went on to the Panjim.net site. You said that it did contain some (was it 1997-8) episodes of A View from Afar. Could you please post the url for those posts? It will be interesting to see what was said a good 6 or so years ago. good wishes jc please visit "NEW" on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net Recommended Goa related sites 1. http://www.goa-world.com 2. http://www.SuperGoa.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.com/
[Goanet]RE: Goa is up and running for IFFI
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Goanetters! Besides those technical information, do anyone know who are the guest stars - from Bollywood & Hollywood? Since that is the main thing people will see first and which help tomake the IFFI great! Rys Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:23:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Goan Voices <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Goa is up and running for IFFI Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Goa is up and running for IFFI Raju Nayak Posted online: Friday, October 29, 2004 Goas capital Panaji has been spruced up in time for the International Film Festival of India. The capital, which happens to be the constituency of Chief Minister Manohar Parrikar, is receiving a major face-lift. Kala Academy, the states showcase of culture near the Miramar beachfront, too has got a new look. The old Goa medical complex has been overhauled completely and can now rightfully bear the tag of a premier heritage building. Adjacent to this, four multiplexes replete with ultra modern facilities, are nearing completion. The promenade along this entire stretch, ranging from Patto to Dona Paula alongside the Mandovi river, will be the jewel in the crown of Panaji. Gutters are being cleaned up, lakes have been dredged, all old heritage buildings are being given a face-lift and traffic islands and other landscapes being beautified. With an outlay of Rs 150 crore, Panaji is all dressed up to parade before the world. The opposition Congress party has been railing about the neglect of the mofussil areas in the state that have inadequate water supply, electricity, medical and transport facilities, with the entire focus shifting to the capital city. Goa has been the focal point of the tourism industry. And residents here opine that the long term benefits of IFFI will be beneficial to the state as a whole with the infrastructural facilities proving a boon to the influx of touristsboth from within the country and abroad. courtesy: SCREEN Weekly - Forwarded by AlmeidaG(ji), www.goa-world.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet]Lambert Mascarenhas says OUT WITH THE BJP. TOO LATE Shri Lambhott! TOO LATE!
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## In this morning's Goan Observer Lambert Mascarenhas writes a VIEWPOINT OUT WITH THE BJP http://www.goanobserver.com/ === TOO LATE Mr. Mascarenhas TOO LATE If there were signs of a preventable disease - and the Doctors SAT ON THE FENCE and instead of doing what they could, the DOCTORS would be rightly sued and punished for negligence. Parents are blamed IF their young children go astray Teachers are blamed if their students consistently perform poorly. What do you think about THOSE who write stories and editorials in the Newspapers - and form political opinions of the young, Mr. Mascarenhas? WHAT ABOUT THEM? The poison of communalism is NOT a new phenomenon is it? WHAT did you do when you had the opportunity as Editor of Navhind Times and later the Publisher and Editor of Goa Today? What did our Goa Patrakars who followed youdo? Don't tell me that you expected non-Goan Patrakars to do anything about it? As far as I am concerned, You Mr. Mascarenhas SAT on the FENCE. You never bothered to truly revisit the plight of Goans who struggled in their own little Land which continued to Sorrow and Bleed. Thank God for the likes of Rajan Narayan and Ethel da Costa And Thank God for the likes of Floriano Lobo, Goa Suraj folks, Datta Naik and Francisco Colaco. But...trust me.it is too late. The Communal Forces have come to stay. Now, there is nothing You or anyone else can do to get the BJP out. As the saying goes: Beware of inviting the Snake to get rid of the pesky Rats. After gobbling the rats, the Snake will bite you! You invited the Snake, You suffer the bite. Pity that the Snake will bite others too. jc _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
[Goanet]The 'masochistic' people of Panjim don't need your sympathy
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Philip Thomas wrote: The people of Panjim seem to be masochists to tolerate the wholesale upheaval being wrought by last minute IFFI and Exposition preparations all the way from Old Goa/Ribandar to Miramar and Dona Paula. It really didnt have to be done this crude and heavy handed way. Jose Colaco wrote: I totally agree with you. The people of Panjim are indeed masochists. In fact they are cyclic masochists. Every 40 or so years, they "tolerate wholesale upheaval being wrought" on their lives in a "crude and heavy handed way".'They are like that only' == Dear Philip and Jose, As a person who lives in Miramar and works in Panjim I would suggest that you keep your sympathy for Panjim residents to yourselves. The CM is the Panjim MLA. Panjim is the Capital City. Crores of money are being poured into Panjim. While the recession in the building industry is still to recover in the rest of Goa, real estate prices in Panjim are going through the roof. We have infrastructure, services and facilities that no other city in Goa has. We complain because "we are like that only". But you don't see any of us moving to Margao or Mapusa or Ponda do you? Why should we when the world is coming to our doorstep? So just keep paying your taxes properly and in time and watch with envy as all your money is put into bettering Panjim. While the Ponjekars laugh all the way to the bank as they rent out their properties at rates comparable to Singapore! Cheers! Cecil
[Goanet]Incompetent or the incoherent? - Economist
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## http://www.economist.co.uk/opinion/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3329802 The incompetent or the incoherent? Oct 28th 2004 From The Economist print edition With a heavy heart, we think American readers should vote for John Kerry on November 2nd YOU might have thought that, three years after a devastating terrorist attack on American soil, a period which has featured two wars, radical political and economic legislation, and an adjustment to one of the biggest stockmarket crashes in history, the campaign for the presidency would be an especially elevated and notable affair. If so, you would be wrong. This year's battle has been between two deeply flawed men: George Bush, who has been a radical, transforming president but who has never seemed truly up to the job, let alone his own ambitions for it; and John Kerry, who often seems to have made up his mind conclusively about something only once, and that was 30 years ago. But on November 2nd, Americans must make their choice, as must The Economist. It is far from an easy call, especially against the backdrop of a turbulent, dangerous world. But, on balance, our instinct is towards change rather than continuity: Mr Kerry, not Mr Bush. Whenever we express a view of that sort, some readers are bound to protest that we, as a publication based in London, should not be poking our noses in other people's politics. Translated, this invariably means that protesters disagree with our choice. It may also, however, reflect a lack of awareness about our readership. The Economist's weekly sales in the United States are about 450,000 copies, which is three times our British sale and roughly 45% of our worldwide total. All those American readers will now be pondering how to vote, or indeed whether to. Thus, as at every presidential election since 1980, we hope it may be useful for us to say how we would think about our vote-if we had one. The case against George Bush That decision cannot be separated from the terrible memory of September 11th, nor can it fail to begin as an evaluation of the way in which Mr Bush and his administration responded to that day. For Mr Bush's record during the past three years has been both inspiring and disturbing. Mr Bush was inspiring in the way he reacted to the new world in which he, and America, found itself. He grasped the magnitude of the challenge well. His military response in Afghanistan was not the sort of poorly directed lashing out that Bill Clinton had used in 1998 after al-Qaeda destroyed two American embassies in east Africa: it was a resolute, measured effort, which was reassuringly sober about the likely length of the campaign against Osama bin Laden and the elusiveness of anything worth the name of victory. Mistakes were made, notably when at Tora Bora Mr bin Laden and other leaders probably escaped, and when following the war both America and its allies devoted insufficient military and financial resources to helping Afghanistan rebuild itself. But overall, the mission has achieved a lot: the Taliban were removed, al-Qaeda lost its training camps and its base, and Afghanistan has just held elections that bring cautious hope for the central government's future ability to bring stability and prosperity. The biggest mistake, though, was one that will haunt America for years to come. It lay in dealing with prisoners-of-war by sending hundreds of them to the American base at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, putting them in a legal limbo, outside the Geneva conventions and outside America's own legal system. That act reflected a genuinely difficult problem: that of having captured people of unknown status but many of whom probably did want to kill Americans, at a time when to set them free would have been politically controversial, to say the least. That difficulty cannot neutralise the damage caused by this decision, however. Today, Guantánamo Bay offers constant evidence of America's hypocrisy, evidence that is disturbing for those who sympathise with it, cause-affirming for those who hate it. This administration, which claims to be fighting for justice, the rule of law and liberty, is incarcerating hundreds of people, whether innocent or guilty, without trial or access to legal representation. The White House's proposed remedy, namely military tribunals, merely compounds the problem. When Mr Bush decided to frame his foreign policy in the sort of language and objectives previously associated with Woodrow Wilson, John Kennedy or Ronald Reagan, he was bound to be greeted with cynicism. Yet he was right to do so. To pa
[Goanet]Re: A royal snub to the Congress and Goa's Lap Dancing patrakars
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## "samir_kelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do not understand why Samir is all so upset about this International Standard comment by the new Goa Governor. Has he not heard of Dacca, Karachi, Dafur, Havana and Port u Prince? Are they NOT International cities? (:-) jc BTW: What else do you expect from Politcians & those lap-dancing Patrakars who get so hot under the collar when you point out errors in their FAKE stories. which are then spread. Please see HOW a 1983 built Daman bridge was credited to the Portuguese by a "staff reporter" I wonder IF any corrections to this untruth were ever sent out and printed. Or was it "I have had my say & I will NOT engage in endless discussions about my fake details" etc etc http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/6/2003/08/28/story167.html Daman was a Portuguese colony until it was returned to India in 1961. The bridge, built by the Portuguese, was only wide enough for one-way traffic and had been in disrepair for years, according to Daman residents. also parotted in * in the Indo-Asian News Service * http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2003-August/004561.html The tragedy occurred when a 90-metre section of a Portuguese-built bridge over the Daman Ganga river collapsed. Among the victims ... * in.news.yahoo.com/030830/43/27e3y.html * http://indiaexpress.com/news/regional/gujarat/20030828-0.html * http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-08-28-india-bridge_x.htm accepted as truth and mentioned here* http://web.mid-day.com/columns/anil_thakraney/parting_shot/2003/september/62847.htm http://www.colaco.net/1/TGFgoamediawatch.htm Goa Media Watch _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.com/
[Goanet]Bush declares himself unfit to serve.
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## http://www.btcnews.com/btcnews/archives/0771.html Bush declares himself unfit to serve; Economist agrees 10/29/2004 - Although stopping short of withdrawing from the race, George W. Bush on Wednesday declared himself unfit to serve as president. "A political candidate who jumps to conclusions without knowing the facts is not a person you want as commander-in-chief," the president said. Some analysts interpreted the remarks as a dig at John Kerry for the latter's assault on the administration's now-documented failure to secure several hundred tons of very high explosives, RDX and HMX, under UN seal at Al Qa Qaa in Iraq. Other observers noted that the president has seemed more pensive and introspective in recent days, possibly as a result of an unrelenting barrage of negative news afflicting the reality-based community adjacent to the White House, and speculated that he may simply be so overwhelmed by events and confetti that he's ready to call it a day, in which case his supporters may feel obligated to put him out to pasture before he collapses entirely. The Economist piles on If so, the president isn't alone in wishing he could just go away. The Economist, a highly conservative London-based magazine with nearly a half-million U.S. subscribers, yesterday endorsed John Kerry in an editorial entitled "The incompetent or the incoherent?" By having far too few soldiers to provide security and by failing to pay Saddam's remnant army, a task that was always going to be long and hard has been made much, much harder. Such incompetence is no mere detail: thousands of Iraqis have died as a result and hundreds of American soldiers. The eventual success of the mission, while still possible, has been put in unnecessary jeopardy. So has America's reputation in the Islamic world, both for effectiveness and for moral probity. If Mr Bush had meanwhile been making progress elsewhere in the Middle East, such mistakes might have been neutralised. But he hasn't. Israel and Palestine remain in their bitter conflict, with America readily accusable of bias. In Iran the conservatives have become stronger and the country has moved closer to making nuclear weapons. Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia have not turned hostile, but neither have they been terribly supportive nor reform-minded. Libya's renunciation of WMD is the sole clear piece of progress. This only makes the longer-term project more important, not less. To succeed, however, America needs a president capable of admitting to mistakes and of learning from them. Mr Bush has steadfastly refused to admit to anything: even after Abu Ghraib, when he had a perfect opportunity to dismiss Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, and declare a new start, he chose not to. Instead, he treated the abuses as if they were a low-level, disciplinary issue. Can he learn from mistakes? The current approach in Iraq, of training Iraqi security forces and preparing for elections to establish an Iraqi government with popular support, certainly represents an improvement, although America still has too few troops. And no one knows, for example, whether Mr Rumsfeld will stay in his job, or go. In the end, one can do no more than guess about whether in a second term Mr Bush would prove more competent. Bob Smith piles on Elsewhere, former US senator Bob Smith, a very conservative New Hampshire Republican, joined the lengthening parade of Republicans endorsing John Kerry for president. Although Smith's counterpart on the Republican "left" (as if there's such a thing), Lincoln Chaffee of Rhode Island, didn't actually endorse Kerry-he just said he couldn't vote for Bush-the two Republicans and all those in between who've abandoned him, represent the entire spectrum of the GOP absent the messianic wing. Deep in Al Qa Qaa: the missing explosives pile on The Pentagon, meanwhile, in a bizarre piece of performance art that may well prove to have been a Democratic dirty trick, produced a witness who told reporters that while he definitely blew up something near Al Qa Qaa, it wasn't the 370 tons of very high explosives that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) had warned the U.S. was in storage at the facility and that an embedded television news crew taped as U.S. soldiers broke the IAEA seals and walked off leaving the doors unlocked. "I'm Osama bin Laden and I approve this message" It seems like a year ago that the primary topic of discussion was why the U.S. didn't go after bin Laden more forcefully when he was trapped at Tora Bora (click here for a handy Tora Bora timeli
Re: [Goanet]The iffi angle on IFFI
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## > Samir wrote... > > It is ironical that some people based in the Middle East are boot-licking > Parrikar. I have a feeling this camoflagued news item is sponsored by the > 15 crores of your and my money. > How true!! Shame on those who do...and think of those who have made a fortune in IFFI name. > > The best thing that the Goan people can do is to boycott IFFI. > > Only the hotel lobby will benefit in my opinion, not goans working in there. Nothing here for Goans, but only a screen on the beach. > > RE: GOAN VOICES' ON "IFFI MAKES CM HERO No.1 " OF OCT 28 > > Sure, a lot of people optimistically believe that things will be lovely in > Panjim when all the work is over. But what guarantee is there that the > powers that be wont come up with some new harebrained ideas to keep things > from ever settling down? And who knows what the quality of the rush > infrastructure jobs will really be like in the next monsoon or two. There > may be enough re-work to keep things topsy-turvy in perpetuity. Heaven help > us Panjimites is all I can say. > > Only time will tell if the multiplexes can withstand the test of time...After all it only takes a second to replace the H with a Z :-)) Cheers, Seb
[Goanet]Iffy Angle on IFFI
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Re: Goan Voices' on "Goa is up and running for IFFI" of Oct 29 Fyi, there is at least one factual error in the piece. It is incorrect to say that "there are four multiplexes" nearing completion. In fact it is just ONE multiplex with four screens. Goes to show that our IFFI organisers (or Panjimites for that matter!) dont seem to know the difference between a multiplex and a hot potato!