[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
Ah, my apologies, for some reason, I started talking about the conversation model and server-server communication lines. On Nov 18, 2:21 pm, David Nesting wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Olreich wrote: > > interface was completely in the terminal). But first, the Wave > > protocol will probably need to be completed or at least relatively > > stable, so that a new version does not need to come out every few > > days. > > > Google, of course, will not do this. The reason why is that Google has > > Even assuming I bought into this theory (which I don't), Wave is designed to > federate among other types of servers. What you're asking for here is a > standard API for front-ends to talk to Google's implementation of Wave. Not > having this does not preclude you coming up with a standard API for > front-ends to talk to anyone else's implementation, which can in turn talk > to Google's (via federation). > > David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=en.
Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Olreich wrote: > interface was completely in the terminal). But first, the Wave > protocol will probably need to be completed or at least relatively > stable, so that a new version does not need to come out every few > days. > > Google, of course, will not do this. The reason why is that Google has > Even assuming I bought into this theory (which I don't), Wave is designed to federate among other types of servers. What you're asking for here is a standard API for front-ends to talk to Google's implementation of Wave. Not having this does not preclude you coming up with a standard API for front-ends to talk to anyone else's implementation, which can in turn talk to Google's (via federation). David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=en.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
There is already a group of people looking to build wave clients in native apps (it's obviously possible, as in the keynote Initechs user interface was completely in the terminal). But first, the Wave protocol will probably need to be completed or at least relatively stable, so that a new version does not need to come out every few days. Google, of course, will not do this. The reason why is that Google has so much invested in the Web that anything not run on the web is actually dangerous for it's business model (which is essentially Adsense). They are even building an operating system that is entirely web-based. Google Chrome OS. The Web will probably win this one too, because on the web, your operating system doesn't matter, everything is "free" and more and more, browsers are becoming less and less an obstacle for production. On Nov 17, 9:37 pm, Jo hyphen el wrote: > > >> Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends > > >> lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate > > >> into my mailbox. > > While this is true, I personally find it hugely annoying to have to > load up a web browser to use any form on communication. I do all my > email through Mac Mail (6 email accounts IMAPed) and reluctantly go to > facebook any time I get a new email notification. (I also use Twitter > with Tweet Deck, and now Google Wave). Too many places to check for > daily updates. > > > >> > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > > >> > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > > >> > data structure, > > I personally don't think they need to be compatible to appear in the > same inbox. Ideally (for me) I would like to have one inbox that shows > me a list of all my emails and waves in the same place. Emails could > be viewed as emails (gmail style), waves as waves, and with robots, > tweets / facebook messages / facebook wall posts could probably be > integrated into a special wave for each. That way I only have one > place to check. > > And in a perfect world this would be available as both a web UI and a > native mac app, I guess I'm just praying that Google might take it > upon themselves to make my life easier :P > > Jo-el > > On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Matt Richards wrote: > > > > > On a kind of related note what about intigration with Google Groups > > (at least being able to pull dicissions from Groups into a Wave)? > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Olreich wrote: > > > Well, there's already a Robot for email, and there's bound to be at > > > least a gadget and an extension built for it. > > > > On Nov 17, 5:21 am, Raphaël Pinson wrote: > > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, drone wrote: > > >> > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > > >> > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > > >> > data structure, but he also said that technically it should be > > >> > possible.. > > >> > Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, > > >> > I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email > > >> > (instead of being just another way to communicate). > > > >> Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends > > >> lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate > > >> into my mailbox. So too with Wave, when people begin to use it and > > >> find it more useful than email imo. > > > >> > So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. > > > >> > On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: > > >> >> Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > > >> >> versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > > >> >> 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > > >> >> Just curious. > > > >> >> Jo-el > > > >> > -- > > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> > Groups "Google Wave API" group. > > >> > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> > For more options, visit this group > > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Google Wave API" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > > -- > > --Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/gro
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
> >> Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends > >> lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate > >> into my mailbox. While this is true, I personally find it hugely annoying to have to load up a web browser to use any form on communication. I do all my email through Mac Mail (6 email accounts IMAPed) and reluctantly go to facebook any time I get a new email notification. (I also use Twitter with Tweet Deck, and now Google Wave). Too many places to check for daily updates. > >> > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > >> > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > >> > data structure, I personally don't think they need to be compatible to appear in the same inbox. Ideally (for me) I would like to have one inbox that shows me a list of all my emails and waves in the same place. Emails could be viewed as emails (gmail style), waves as waves, and with robots, tweets / facebook messages / facebook wall posts could probably be integrated into a special wave for each. That way I only have one place to check. And in a perfect world this would be available as both a web UI and a native mac app, I guess I'm just praying that Google might take it upon themselves to make my life easier :P Jo-el On Nov 18, 5:57 am, Matt Richards wrote: > On a kind of related note what about intigration with Google Groups > (at least being able to pull dicissions from Groups into a Wave)? > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Olreich wrote: > > Well, there's already a Robot for email, and there's bound to be at > > least a gadget and an extension built for it. > > > On Nov 17, 5:21 am, Raphaël Pinson wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, drone wrote: > >> > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > >> > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > >> > data structure, but he also said that technically it should be > >> > possible.. > >> > Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, > >> > I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email > >> > (instead of being just another way to communicate). > > >> Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends > >> lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate > >> into my mailbox. So too with Wave, when people begin to use it and > >> find it more useful than email imo. > > >> > So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. > > >> > On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: > >> >> Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > >> >> versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > >> >> 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > >> >> Just curious. > > >> >> Jo-el > > >> > -- > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "Google Wave API" group. > >> > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > For more options, visit this group > >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google Wave API" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > -- > --Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
On a kind of related note what about intigration with Google Groups (at least being able to pull dicissions from Groups into a Wave)? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Olreich wrote: > Well, there's already a Robot for email, and there's bound to be at > least a gadget and an extension built for it. > > On Nov 17, 5:21 am, Raphaël Pinson wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, drone wrote: >> > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no >> > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different >> > data structure, but he also said that technically it should be >> > possible.. >> > Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, >> > I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email >> > (instead of being just another way to communicate). >> >> Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends >> lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate >> into my mailbox. So too with Wave, when people begin to use it and >> find it more useful than email imo. >> >> >> >> > So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. >> >> > On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: >> >> Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice >> >> versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email >> >> 2.0 from the same inbox.. >> >> >> Just curious. >> >> >> Jo-el >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Google Wave API" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Wave API" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > > -- --Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
Well, there's already a Robot for email, and there's bound to be at least a gadget and an extension built for it. On Nov 17, 5:21 am, Raphaël Pinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, drone wrote: > > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > > data structure, but he also said that technically it should be > > possible.. > > Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, > > I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email > > (instead of being just another way to communicate). > > Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends > lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate > into my mailbox. So too with Wave, when people begin to use it and > find it more useful than email imo. > > > > > So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. > > > On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: > >> Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > >> versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > >> 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > >> Just curious. > > >> Jo-el > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google Wave API" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
Re: [Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM, drone wrote: > Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no > plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different > data structure, but he also said that technically it should be > possible.. > Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, > I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email > (instead of being just another way to communicate). > Well, as a matter of fact, most of the messages I send to my friends lately go through Facebook, and Facebook never had to really integrate into my mailbox. So too with Wave, when people begin to use it and find it more useful than email imo. > So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. > > On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: >> Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice >> versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email >> 2.0 from the same inbox.. >> >> Just curious. >> >> Jo-el > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Wave API" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
Guy at Google Developer's Day in Moscow claimed that there are no plans regarding Gmail integration as they have completely different data structure, but he also said that technically it should be possible.. Also, I agree, it would be crazy not to do this, I don't see any other way, how they could get Wave to Replace email (instead of being just another way to communicate). So.. probably when Wave is closer to become public.. On Nov 16, 4:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: > Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > Just curious. > > Jo-el -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
Hi, I am working on a slightly different kind of integration: handle emails in Wave: http://emaily.dlux.hu Balázs On Nov 16, 3:38 am, Jo hyphen el wrote: > Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > Just curious. > > Jo-el -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
Hi Jo-el, Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall that when they did the launch they spoke of it then, which was absolutely was it going to be integrated at some level. If you were already using Google APP then you were already one step towards it. Then again I am really new the fan club of Google wave and I could have it wrong. However, they would be CRAZY not to do this. I suspect not long after Google wave actually comes out of test phase into its live for everyone phase, that we will see them integrated, if not at the same time. Cheers, Glenn On Nov 16, 1:38 pm, Jo hyphen el wrote: > Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > Just curious. > > Jo-el -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
[Google Wave APIs] Re: Gmail and Wave
+1 will be nice. On Nov 15, 9:38 pm, Jo hyphen el wrote: > Anyone know if there any plans to integrate Wave into Gmail (or vice > versa)? Just thinking it would be nice to view your email and email > 2.0 from the same inbox.. > > Just curious. > > Jo-el -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=.
