Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:26:07 +0100 trotter wrote: > At 23:31 18/04/2009, you wrote: > > > > [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ > > > >nice one, will. > > > >i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which > >apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and > >19 text editors. > > > >in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and > >hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. > > > Suprising that we haven't had popular distros doing this. > With broadband not being available to some people and BB being > flaky enough that sometimes a corrupt ISO is downloaded. I have always installed Debian in this manner once I realised I too didn't want umpteen alternatives for browsing, editing etc. All I do is to avoid gui installers and don't use the package selection tool when it is offered so get a basic installation once the system has re-booted. I know exactly what packages I want on my system by now and "aptitude install" them from the command line. -- John Lewis using Debian Sid with windowmaker for a nicer desktop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Sunday 19 April 2009 16:01:22 m.nutt...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > If it isnt DSL its probably PuppyLinux instead that has this CRT > problem. When I last looked, Puppy explicitly offered CRT in its choice of monitors. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 16:01 +0100, m.nutt...@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > Quoting Rik : > > > > > On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:26 +0100, trotter wrote: > > > At 23:31 18/04/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > > > [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ > > > > > > > >nice one, will. > > > > > > > >i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which > > > >apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and > > > >19 text editors. > > > > > > > >in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and > > > >hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. > > > > > > > > > Suprising that we haven't had popular distros doing this. > > > With broadband not being available to some people and BB being > > > flaky enough that sometimes a corrupt ISO is downloaded. > > > > > > Theres also how long it takes for a dvd ISO to download with 4 Mb > > > connection I tend to look for cd based distributions to download. > > > > > > Martin N > > > > > > > > > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups. > > > > > > > > A tad more bloated, but none the less very worthy of a mention: > > http://damnsmalllinux.org/ > > I seem to remember than DSL is a pain on CRT monitors. > > You cant increase the refresh to 85Hz or more to stop the flicker. > It did get reported to the DSL maintainers but they dont use CRT > so said they werent interested in changing it. > > If it isnt DSL its probably PuppyLinux instead that has this CRT > problem. > > Martin N > > > -- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > I can't say I've seen a Toshiba Satellite Pro 4320 with a CRT myself :-) Joking aside the semantics of all manner of display equipment could be argued with pros and cons on just about any distro - or for that matter platform. The fun I've had with Ubuntu 8.10 and a widescreen TFT springs to mind. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
Quoting Rik : > > On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:26 +0100, trotter wrote: > > At 23:31 18/04/2009, you wrote: > > > > > > [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ > > > > > >nice one, will. > > > > > >i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which > > >apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and > > >19 text editors. > > > > > >in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and > > >hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. > > > > > > Suprising that we haven't had popular distros doing this. > > With broadband not being available to some people and BB being > > flaky enough that sometimes a corrupt ISO is downloaded. > > > > Theres also how long it takes for a dvd ISO to download with 4 Mb > > connection I tend to look for cd based distributions to download. > > > > Martin N > > > > > > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups. > > > > > A tad more bloated, but none the less very worthy of a mention: > http://damnsmalllinux.org/ I seem to remember than DSL is a pain on CRT monitors. You cant increase the refresh to 85Hz or more to stop the flicker. It did get reported to the DSL maintainers but they dont use CRT so said they werent interested in changing it. If it isnt DSL its probably PuppyLinux instead that has this CRT problem. Martin N -- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:26 +0100, trotter wrote: > At 23:31 18/04/2009, you wrote: > > > > [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ > > > >nice one, will. > > > >i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which > >apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and > >19 text editors. > > > >in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and > >hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. > > > Suprising that we haven't had popular distros doing this. > With broadband not being available to some people and BB being > flaky enough that sometimes a corrupt ISO is downloaded. > > Theres also how long it takes for a dvd ISO to download with 4 Mb > connection I tend to look for cd based distributions to download. > > Martin N > > > Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups. > > A tad more bloated, but none the less very worthy of a mention: http://damnsmalllinux.org/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
At 23:31 18/04/2009, you wrote: > > [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ > >nice one, will. > >i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which >apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and >19 text editors. > >in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and >hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. Suprising that we haven't had popular distros doing this. With broadband not being available to some people and BB being flaky enough that sometimes a corrupt ISO is downloaded. Theres also how long it takes for a dvd ISO to download with 4 Mb connection I tend to look for cd based distributions to download. Martin N Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
> [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ nice one, will. i love the idea of having a basic installation then choosing which apps you require... i don't need 3 web browsers, 7 email clients and 19 text editors. in fact, i like this idea so much, i've registered on the forum and hope to donate some time and energy into helping this project. by the way, thanks to all for the suggestions and advice but the luddites whose laptop i was faffing around with eventually decided to have windows xp re-installed on it. /sigh regards bryan -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:17:28 +0100 Sean Gibbins wrote: > However, I am going to throw in my lot with the [CrunchBang, Puppy, > DSL] crew on this one. just for the hello of it I installed CrunchBang in VirtualBox and felt quite at home with it as OpenBox (the window manager it uses) is somewhat similar to WindowMaker It has a fair number of applications available out of the box, including openoffice, cups, samba, wireless-tools, network manager, synaptic, etc, etc. It currently has a 2.6.27 kernel. on the downside the only email client is mutt which might suit some people. However claws-mail or thunderbird are only an "aptitude install" away. It downloads as a live CD but with an install to hardisk option. -- John Lewis using Debian Sid with windowmaker for a nicer desktop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
> can anyone recommend a modern linux distrubution to install on the above > mentioned laptop? i've tried slax, redhat and knoppix to no avail and > ended up using mandriva 8.1, which installs but won't recognise my network > cards. > I don't think anyone has mentioned tinycore [1] on this list yet. The basic 10 MB iso contains no applications just X, a terminal and a package manager. I couldn't say whether it will recognise your hardware. It is run by Robert Shingledecker of DSL fame so if you liked that you might be interested in this. At 10 MB it will only take you a few seconds to download and burn a cd, worth giving a go to see if it at least recognises your wired nic. Will Davies [1] http://www.tinycorelinux.com/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
Paul Stimpson wrote: > +1 for that theory. 9.04 is great on my laptop but distinctly sluggish when > running live. If you have the time I'd try installing it and see how it goes. > That way you will have an idea of the relative performance of the different > candidates and can decide which is your preferred experience. +2 However, I am going to throw in my lot with the [CrunchBang, Puppy, DSL] crew on this one. You might get adequate performance out of an old machine with a mainstream distro, but you will get (relatively) good performance using one specifically tailored for the purpose. I personally like Puppy. The live CD is only 100MB and worth a look to see what it makes of your hardware. Sean http://www.puppylinux.org/downloads/official-releases -- The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows. Frank Zappa -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
+1 for that theory. 9.04 is great on my laptop but distinctly sluggish when running live. If you have the time I'd try installing it and see how it goes. That way you will have an idea of the relative performance of the different candidates and can decide which is your preferred experience. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Thursday 16 April 2009 22:54:41 B STEVENS wrote: > result 1: i think we can discount ubuntu 9.04 for the aged toshiba. it took > 10 minutes to get to the live desktop, applications took an age to > initialise and react to mouse clicks / keystrokes. just about usuable and > painfully slow. The slowness was probably precisely because it was running Live, on what is barely an adequate amount of RAM. It might work well once installed, and could probably be installed from the alternate CD instead of the live one. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
result 1: i think we can discount ubuntu 9.04 for the aged toshiba. it took 10 minutes to get to the live desktop, applications took an age to initialise and react to mouse clicks / keystrokes. just about usuable and painfully slow. i'll let you all know the results of the other flavours of linux suggested. regards bryan -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
> I'd recommend crunchbanglinux rather than xubuntu. It's ubuntu based, > but uses a very lightweight openbox window manager. > > http://crunchbanglinux.org > > Very nice. I run it on an old Dell PIII650MHz with 256MB RAM. On > booting to the desktop the memory footprint is under 100MB, nearer 60. > > Cheers, > Al. I would agree with that. I run it on an AMD 550 ATHLON, 256 Mb of memory even having 2 CRT monitors running with an NVIDIA driver until one of them died. -- Clive Woodfine -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
2009/4/15 B STEVENS : > > hi all > > can anyone recommend a modern linux distrubution to install on the above > mentioned laptop? i've tried slax, redhat and knoppix to no avail and ended > up using mandriva 8.1, which installs but won't recognise my network cards. > > regards > > bryan > If you can get as far as booting any Linux on the machine, and then run at the command line: lspci One could then find out which driver you need for the network card. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
Think ubuntu will struggle with only 256mb of memory, might be better with > xbuntu which is ubuntu but with the xfce desktop as opposed to gnome > > Tim > > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > I run Ubuntu (Gnome) on a 700 MHz ThinkPad with 320 Mb and, apart from seeming a bit slow, it runs perfectly. Incidentally, I also run Damn Small on a 133 MHz Thinkpad with 48 Mb Chris -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
2009/4/15 B STEVENS : > > thanks again, gentlemen... your advice is appreciated :-) > I'd recommend crunchbanglinux rather than xubuntu. It's ubuntu based, but uses a very lightweight openbox window manager. http://crunchbanglinux.org Very nice. I run it on an old Dell PIII650MHz with 256MB RAM. On booting to the desktop the memory footprint is under 100MB, nearer 60. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
thanks again, gentlemen... your advice is appreciated :-) regards bryan -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
I'd probably go along with that. I didn't realise how short of RAM it was. That being said Ubuntu with Gnome runs OK on a 1.4GHz AMD Athlon single core with 384MB I just cobbled together. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Tim Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:32:17 To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List Subject: Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320 On Wednesday 15 April 2009 23:18:23 B STEVENS wrote: > thanks, guys... the laptop has 256mb memory so i'll give ubuntu a go first. > > regards > > bryan Think ubuntu will struggle with only 256mb of memory, might be better with xbuntu which is ubuntu but with the xfce desktop as opposed to gnome Tim FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 23:18:23 B STEVENS wrote: > thanks, guys... the laptop has 256mb memory so i'll give ubuntu a go first. > > regards > > bryan Think ubuntu will struggle with only 256mb of memory, might be better with xbuntu which is ubuntu but with the xfce desktop as opposed to gnome Tim FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
thanks, guys... the laptop has 256mb memory so i'll give ubuntu a go first. regards bryan -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
On Wednesday 15 April 2009 22:52:33 B STEVENS wrote: > hi all > > can anyone recommend a modern linux distrubution to install on the above > mentioned laptop? i've tried slax, redhat and knoppix to no avail and ended > up using mandriva 8.1, which installs but won't recognise my network cards. > > regards > > bryan Having had a quick google which suggest the spec of the laptop is likely to be P3 600mhz with 64mb memory, then I guess something like damm small linux or puppy linux Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
Hi, I'd give the beta of Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty a go. It's working really well for me and has recognised every bit of hardware out of the box in every box I've installed it on. It will update to the release version automatically when that comes out in a week. Cheers, Paul. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] linux for toshiba satellite pro 4320
hi all can anyone recommend a modern linux distrubution to install on the above mentioned laptop? i've tried slax, redhat and knoppix to no avail and ended up using mandriva 8.1, which installs but won't recognise my network cards. regards bryan -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
