Re: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis
I've only done two tests with making the images thus far, and none recovering. What I've noticed was it took a substantially longer amount of time to do it in windows than to just load up via bootable DVD and image it that way. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Gary wrote: > First you don't have to image from bootable DVD (unless you want too), you > can do it in windows. > When installed Win7 it made two partitions if you did a format. It put > system files in a separate partition. > >> -Original Message- >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- >> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:44 PM >> To: The Hardware List >> Subject: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis >> >> Has anyone ever used Acronis disk imaging? >> >> I have the home 2010 version, and have never really done any imaging. >> I have some spare hard drives and have been meaning to try and test >> this out. >> >> I have a fresh install of Win7 with a few programs. Everything is on >> C: there is no other partition. I want that image saved in case I need >> to redo the machine quickly. >> >> I boot into the bootable DVD of acronis loader I created. >> >> I go to partitions to back up. >> >> I see DISK1 which is my external USB HD. Below that I see DISK2 which >> is the 500GB HD on the PC with the O/S and programs. >> >> NTFS (System Reserved) (C:) Pri,Act 100 >> >> and >> >> NTFS (Unlabeled) (C:) Pri 465GB >> >> What I don't understand is why is there a C and D listed, when I only >> have a C: drive with everything loaded on it with this particular PC? >> >> What happens if I restore this to a fresh HD on the same PC? >> >> Will I have a C drive of 100MB and a D drive with the O/S and Programs?! > >
Re: [H] Tower HD LED wire does not match MB HD LED Pins
These things are standard even when you don't get what you expect ;-). Are you sure that that is the HD LED cable? Usually 3 positions is reserved for the Power/Suspend/Sleep indicator. But anyways, if you pull hard on the wires you will pull out the wires as the pins latch into the connector. You should see a window on the side of the connector and be able to see the pins through them. That is where a part of the connector will pop into the window and lock the pin. You need to look close at that window and see what part of the pin is holding it, press that part back with a pin or pig-sticker (dissection needle) and pull at the same time. It's a bit awkward because these types of pins usually have a specific tool for pin removal. Steve On 7/20/2010 3:40 PM, GPL wrote: I have a tower with a HD LED cable that has a 3 prong plug. Actually its two prongs but the middle hole does not have a wire connected to it. The motherboard has 2 pins for the HD LED wire. The 3 hole plug obviously does not fit into the two pins on the motherboard, so this machine has no HD LED which is not the end of the world but I would like it to work. I tried pulling the wires out to try and see if I can just pop them into the middle hole of the 3 hole plug but either its not meant to pop out, I'm doing something wrong, or I'm afraid to pull too hard and break the wire. Has anyone a solution as to how I can get the HD LED wire to connect to this MB? IS there maybe an adapater Should I be able to move the wires around? I thought this stuff was all standard.
Re: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis
First you don't have to image from bootable DVD (unless you want too), you can do it in windows. When installed Win7 it made two partitions if you did a format. It put system files in a separate partition. > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:44 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis > > Has anyone ever used Acronis disk imaging? > > I have the home 2010 version, and have never really done any imaging. > I have some spare hard drives and have been meaning to try and test > this out. > > I have a fresh install of Win7 with a few programs. Everything is on > C: there is no other partition. I want that image saved in case I need > to redo the machine quickly. > > I boot into the bootable DVD of acronis loader I created. > > I go to partitions to back up. > > I see DISK1 which is my external USB HD. Below that I see DISK2 which > is the 500GB HD on the PC with the O/S and programs. > > NTFS (System Reserved) (C:) Pri,Act 100 > > and > > NTFS (Unlabeled) (C:) Pri 465GB > > What I don't understand is why is there a C and D listed, when I only > have a C: drive with everything loaded on it with this particular PC? > > What happens if I restore this to a fresh HD on the same PC? > > Will I have a C drive of 100MB and a D drive with the O/S and Programs?!
Re: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis
> -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of GPL > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:44 PM > To: The Hardware List > Subject: [H] Disk Imaging with Acronis > > > NTFS (System Reserved) (C:) Pri,Act 100 > > and > > NTFS (Unlabeled) (C:) Pri 465GB > > What I don't understand is why is there a C and D listed, when I only have a > C: drive with everything loaded on it with this particular PC? First, Acronis drive letters do not necessarily match Windows drive letters. Acronis just assigns letters to make it easier to work with. The 100MB partition was created by Windows Setup to allow you to, at some point in the future, enable Bitlocker drive encryption without having to create the small boot partition at that time. It may also load some small recovery tools to it, but I'm not sure. > > What happens if I restore this to a fresh HD on the same PC? > > Will I have a C drive of 100MB and a D drive with the O/S and Programs?! No, it won't be assigned a drive letter within Windows. You DO want to back up and restore the 100MB partition, however.
[H] Disk Imaging with Acronis
Has anyone ever used Acronis disk imaging? I have the home 2010 version, and have never really done any imaging. I have some spare hard drives and have been meaning to try and test this out. I have a fresh install of Win7 with a few programs. Everything is on C: there is no other partition. I want that image saved in case I need to redo the machine quickly. I boot into the bootable DVD of acronis loader I created. I go to partitions to back up. I see DISK1 which is my external USB HD. Below that I see DISK2 which is the 500GB HD on the PC with the O/S and programs. NTFS (System Reserved) (C:) Pri,Act 100 and NTFS (Unlabeled) (C:) Pri 465GB What I don't understand is why is there a C and D listed, when I only have a C: drive with everything loaded on it with this particular PC? What happens if I restore this to a fresh HD on the same PC? Will I have a C drive of 100MB and a D drive with the O/S and Programs?!
[H] Tower HD LED wire does not match MB HD LED Pins
I have a tower with a HD LED cable that has a 3 prong plug. Actually its two prongs but the middle hole does not have a wire connected to it. The motherboard has 2 pins for the HD LED wire. The 3 hole plug obviously does not fit into the two pins on the motherboard, so this machine has no HD LED which is not the end of the world but I would like it to work. I tried pulling the wires out to try and see if I can just pop them into the middle hole of the 3 hole plug but either its not meant to pop out, I'm doing something wrong, or I'm afraid to pull too hard and break the wire. Has anyone a solution as to how I can get the HD LED wire to connect to this MB? IS there maybe an adapater Should I be able to move the wires around? I thought this stuff was all standard.
Re: [H] My 2010 Gamer PC Build
Rather annoying situation with this 5870. My new PC ran fine with the GTX280 but was giving me a grayish screen with vertical bars at default settings. I lower the clock and memory speed down a bit and its much better. I sent the card back, it took them 2 days to get the card to fail their test so they sent me another one, and this one was tested and it passed the XFX tech test. Well I get it home and its doing the same thing. Again I need to lower the speeds in the ati control panel. I have to assume its the video card because the GTX280 ran fine when the 5870 was out of it and the PC never experienced the gray screen/vertical bars. Now they want me to put the 5870 in another machine to try and see if it does it there too. Like I have all these machines around to test such issues. I have a triple core I build with an Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W power supply in it but I have to check and see if its enough for this card. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:29 AM, GPL wrote: > I ended up sending the 5870 back RMA. I put in a GTX 280 and it worked > fine and I'm using that card for now while I wait for the ATI to come > back. > > On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:54 AM, maccrawj wrote: >> Well poking around only netted me people resolving this by disabling >> powerplay. With my 3870X2 VisionTek actually released a BIOS update which >> raised the clocks to constant "normal" operational levels which effectively >> removed power play and solved the problem for their customers including me. >> >> What I've gathered these past 4+ years is cards built By ATI (BBA's, >> reference design)) get copied w/ their bugs by the manufacturing partners >> yet seem never to get fixed depite BBA's being fixed?! >> >> It's an bug on 3K 4K series not 5K's but you could trying raising the clocks >> to "in use" levels and see if that's the issue: >> >> http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118448 >> >> On 5/22/2010 6:40 AM, GPL wrote: >>> >>> It seems my new build has an issue I read about many weeks ago. >>> >>> In regards to the new XFX ATI HD 5870. >>> >>> The gray/brown screen with bars I noticed the last few days playing >>> rfactor and iracing that pop up occasionally. It's been reported >>> before by ATI users and I would have hoped by now that this would be a >>> driver issue that fixed it. But this is the latest driver on a brand >>> new install. I'm wondering if I'm about to RMA my first part of this >>> build, and the first ATI I've purchased in years. >>> >>> Can it be something else overlooked? >>> >> >
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
I get 90+ MB/s transfers from my freebsd box running Samba to my win7 box. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 08:17:03AM -0500, Greg Sevart wrote: > I'm just hoping that SMB 2.0 gets more baked in Samba and included in > FreeNAS/OpenFiler sooner rather than later. No SMB 2 support is a > showstopper for me for those projects and every other 3rd party SMB/CIFS > implementation. > > With SMB 2, every Windows machine I have with a decently fast drive/array, > even with junk onboard Realtek NICs and cheap D-Link switches, can get near > max wirespeed--115MB/s and up. > > > -Original Message- > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:39 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > > > Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do either > way > > ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both of > > those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to backup > etc. > > Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega ones > that > > come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. > > > > Sent via BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Julian Zottl > > Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 > > To: > > Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > > > Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 > NAS > > and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. > > > > Julian > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay > > > is $999!!! > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the > > > > 6 > > > drive box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Busine > > ss+ > > > Networking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking > > > > > for a > > > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS > > > > > RAIDZ > > > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > >> Duncan, > > > > >> > > > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for > > > > >> your comments to back up John's. > > > > >> > > > > >> Anthony > > > > >> > > > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > > >>> Anthony, > > > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > > > >>> Best, > > > > >>> Duncan > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a > > > > lot > > > to > > > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of > 1000Mbps? > > > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use > > > > the server in a NAS. > > > > > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the > > > > > fan > > > was > > > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, > > > > > the > > > NAS > > > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > > > drives. > > > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year > > > > > warranties, which ain't bad. > > > > > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very > > > > > easy > > > to > > > > > get to. > > > > > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both > > > > > work > > > great > > > > > for that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000. > > asp > > > x > > > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682212202 > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I > > > > > think > > > I > > > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives > > > > > and > > > off > > > > > you go. > > > > > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not > > > > > really checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > > > > > > > > > These things do act as print se
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
I've actually used FreeNAS a good bit and love it if you want to roll your own. Julian On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar < zulfiqar.naus...@siemens.com> wrote: > DroboFS FTW! > > > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:17 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > I'm just hoping that SMB 2.0 gets more baked in Samba and included in > FreeNAS/OpenFiler sooner rather than later. No SMB 2 support is a > showstopper for me for those projects and every other 3rd party SMB/CIFS > implementation. > > With SMB 2, every Windows machine I have with a decently fast > drive/array, > even with junk onboard Realtek NICs and cheap D-Link switches, can get > near > max wirespeed--115MB/s and up. > > > -Original Message- > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:39 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > > > Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do > either > way > > ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both > of > > those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to > backup > etc. > > Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega > ones > that > > come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. > > > > Sent via BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Julian Zottl > > Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 > > To: > > Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > > > Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus > N7700 > NAS > > and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. > > > > Julian > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz > wrote: > > > > > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay > > > is $999!!! > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to > the > > > > 6 > > > drive box... > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Busine > > ss+ > > > Networking > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking > > > > > for a > > > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS > > > > > RAIDZ > > > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin > wrote: > > > > >> Duncan, > > > > >> > > > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for > > > > >> your comments to back up John's. > > > > >> > > > > >> Anthony > > > > >> > > > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > > >>> Anthony, > > > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > > > >>> Best, > > > > >>> Duncan > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean > a > > > > lot > > > to > > > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of > 1000Mbps? > > > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to > use > > > > the server in a NAS. > > > > > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was > the > > > > > fan > > > was > > > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, > > > > > the > > > NAS > > > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > > > drives. > > > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year > > > > > warranties, which ain't bad. > > > > > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very > > > > > easy > > > to > > > > > get to. > > > > > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both > > > > > work > > > great > > > > > for that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000. > > asp > > > x > > > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682212202 > > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I > > > > > think > > > I > > > > >>
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
DroboFS FTW! -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:17 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? I'm just hoping that SMB 2.0 gets more baked in Samba and included in FreeNAS/OpenFiler sooner rather than later. No SMB 2 support is a showstopper for me for those projects and every other 3rd party SMB/CIFS implementation. With SMB 2, every Windows machine I have with a decently fast drive/array, even with junk onboard Realtek NICs and cheap D-Link switches, can get near max wirespeed--115MB/s and up. > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:39 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do either way > ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both of > those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to backup etc. > Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega ones that > come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. > > Sent via BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Julian Zottl > Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 > To: > Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 NAS > and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. > > Julian > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay > > is $999!!! > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the > > > 6 > > drive box... > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Busine > ss+ > > Networking > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking > > > > for a > > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS > > > > RAIDZ > > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > >> Duncan, > > > >> > > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for > > > >> your comments to back up John's. > > > >> > > > >> Anthony > > > >> > > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > >>> Anthony, > > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > > >>> Best, > > > >>> Duncan > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a > > > lot > > to > > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of 1000Mbps? > > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use > > > the server in a NAS. > > > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the > > > > fan > > was > > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, > > > > the > > NAS > > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > > drives. > > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year > > > > warranties, which ain't bad. > > > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very > > > > easy > > to > > > > get to. > > > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both > > > > work > > great > > > > for that.. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000. > asp > > x > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682212202 > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I > > > > think > > I > > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives > > > > and > > off > > > > you go. > > > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not > > > > really checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > > > > > > > These things do act as print servers too if you need that, > > > > just > > plug > > > > in a USB printer and you are good to go.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17,
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
Openfiler is, imho, junk. Out of all the nas I've tried its the most unreliable thing out there. Its hardware supports suck and its interface is poor. How's that for a review. I do agree on smb2. I'm hopeful freenas .8 will include. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Greg Sevart" Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:17:03 To: Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? I'm just hoping that SMB 2.0 gets more baked in Samba and included in FreeNAS/OpenFiler sooner rather than later. No SMB 2 support is a showstopper for me for those projects and every other 3rd party SMB/CIFS implementation. With SMB 2, every Windows machine I have with a decently fast drive/array, even with junk onboard Realtek NICs and cheap D-Link switches, can get near max wirespeed--115MB/s and up. > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:39 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do either way > ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both of > those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to backup etc. > Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega ones that > come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. > > Sent via BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Julian Zottl > Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 > To: > Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 NAS > and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. > > Julian > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay > > is $999!!! > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the > > > 6 > > drive box... > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Busine > ss+ > > Networking > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking > > > > for a > > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS > > > > RAIDZ > > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > >> Duncan, > > > >> > > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for > > > >> your comments to back up John's. > > > >> > > > >> Anthony > > > >> > > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > >>> Anthony, > > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > > >>> Best, > > > >>> Duncan > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a > > > lot > > to > > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of 1000Mbps? > > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use > > > the server in a NAS. > > > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the > > > > fan > > was > > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, > > > > the > > NAS > > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > > drives. > > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year > > > > warranties, which ain't bad. > > > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very > > > > easy > > to > > > > get to. > > > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both > > > > work > > great > > > > for that.. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000. > asp > > x > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682212202 > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I > > > > think > > I > > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives > > > > and > > off > > > > you go. > > > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not > > > > really checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > >
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
I'm just hoping that SMB 2.0 gets more baked in Samba and included in FreeNAS/OpenFiler sooner rather than later. No SMB 2 support is a showstopper for me for those projects and every other 3rd party SMB/CIFS implementation. With SMB 2, every Windows machine I have with a decently fast drive/array, even with junk onboard Realtek NICs and cheap D-Link switches, can get near max wirespeed--115MB/s and up. > -Original Message- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of tmse...@rlrnews.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:39 AM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do either way > ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both of > those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to backup etc. > Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega ones that > come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. > > Sent via BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Julian Zottl > Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 > To: > Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? > > Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 NAS > and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. > > Julian > > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay > > is $999!!! > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the > > > 6 > > drive box... > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Busine > ss+ > > Networking > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking > > > > for a > > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS > > > > RAIDZ > > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > >> Duncan, > > > >> > > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for > > > >> your comments to back up John's. > > > >> > > > >> Anthony > > > >> > > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > > >>> Anthony, > > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > > >>> Best, > > > >>> Duncan > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a > > > lot > > to > > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of 1000Mbps? > > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use > > > the server in a NAS. > > > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the > > > > fan > > was > > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, > > > > the > > NAS > > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > > drives. > > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year > > > > warranties, which ain't bad. > > > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very > > > > easy > > to > > > > get to. > > > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both > > > > work > > great > > > > for that.. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000. > asp > > x > > > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682212202 > > > > 9 > > > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I > > > > think > > I > > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives > > > > and > > off > > > > you go. > > > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not > > > > really checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > > > > > > > These things do act as print servers too if you need that, > > > > just > > plug > > > > in a USB printer and you are good to go.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > > > > >> Strictly for home use. Backup of multiple computers, > > > >> streaming > > audio. > > > >> Probably will start with 2TB. Don't think I need more than 4 > > > >> to 6 down the r
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
Personally I like freenas. I run a whs at home as well. Id do either way ahead of iomega/netgear/etc nas devices. For one simple reason: both of those give me big booming alerts on drive status and allow me to backup etc. Meanwhile I've got at least 2 qnaps and I've had tons of the iomega ones that come in to me because drives fail and all seems lost. Screw that. Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Julian Zottl Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:27:52 To: Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Which NAS Devices? Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 NAS and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. Julian On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay is > $999!!! > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the 6 > drive box... > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Business+Networking > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking for a > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS RAIDZ > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > >> Duncan, > > >> > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for your > > >> comments to back up John's. > > >> > > >> Anthony > > >> > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > >>> Anthony, > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > >>> Best, > > >>> Duncan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a lot > to > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of 1000Mbps? > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use the > > server in a NAS. > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the fan > was > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, the > NAS > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > drives. > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year warranties, > > > which ain't bad. > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very easy > to > > > get to. > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both work > great > > > for that.. > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000.aspx > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822122029 > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I think > I > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives and > off > > > you go. > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not really > > > checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > > > > > These things do act as print servers too if you need that, just > plug > > > in a USB printer and you are good to go.. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > > >> Strictly for home use. Backup of multiple computers, streaming > audio. > > >> Probably will start with 2TB. Don't think I need more than 4 to 6 > > >> down the road, but likely not even that much. I don't have kids so > > >> streaming video from an HD just doens't seem important to me. > > >> Besides, I have so many Blu-rays now that I could never back them > up. > > >> > > >> Anyway, is there something good for under $200? I know the DLink > > >> DNS-323 is going for $150 on Amazon at the moment, but there a > better > > >> choice? I'd like something with esata and USB3.0 too, if possible. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3011 - Release Date: > > > 07/17/10 02:35:00 > > > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > >>> Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3015 - Release Date: > 07/19/10 02:36:00 > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Bryan G. Seitz > > > > > > -- > > JRS > > stei...@pacbel
Re: [H] Which NAS Devices?
Ya, but you're asking for a standalone unit... check out the Thecus N7700 NAS and QNAP TS-509 Pro NAS whle you're at it. Julian On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > Yeah, horrible overpriced. I can build a server for less. The 6 bay is > $999!!! > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 08:43:20PM -0700, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > Netgear has 2, 4, 6 and 12 drive NAS boxen... > > > > I use the 2 drive model at home in Raid 1, but here's a link to the 6 > drive box... > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/ReadyNASPro.aspx?for=Business+Networking > > > > > > > > On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: > > > > > Anyone know of something decent that has 5 bays ? I was looking for a > nice pre-built NAS but all of the higher capacity ones got > > > horrible reviews :( I have a server case with 8x1.5TB using ZFS RAIDZ > currently and it's great, but something self-enclosed/non-server i > > > requiring would be nice. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:57:59PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > >> Duncan, > > >> > > >> No, not yet. I'm looking for a deal on the Netgear. Thanks for your > > >> comments to back up John's. > > >> > > >> Anthony > > >> > > >> On 7/19/2010 1:53 PM, DSinc wrote: > > >>> Anthony, > > >>> Did you buy a NAS? > > >>> Best, > > >>> Duncan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 07/17/2010 13:45, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > Thanks for the comments on the Netgear. Those features mean a lot > to > > me...quiet is indeed important. Are these all capable of 1000Mbps? > > Currently my printer is wireless but I might be willing to use the > > server in a NAS. > > > > On 7/17/2010 1:08 PM, John R Steinbruner wrote: > > > I had a DNS-323 and it was fine. The only issue I had was the fan > was > > > small and therefore noisy. > > > > > > I lost a drive in it once, and when WD sent the replacement, the > NAS > > > rebuilt itself just fine with no problems.. > > > > > > I currently have a pair of Netgear NAS Duo's with 1 terabyte > drives. > > > Faster than the DNS-323, quieter, and came with 3 year warranties, > > > which ain't bad. > > > > > > They are hot swap by the way, with pull out drive trays very easy > to > > > get to. > > > > > > I stream audio off one and movies off the other. They both work > great > > > for that.. > > > > > > > http://www.netgear.com/Products/Storage/StorageWorkandPlay/RND2000.aspx > > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822122029 > > > > > > The diskless one retails for 250, but can be had for less. I think > I > > > gave Newegg 199 for my last one? Add a couple terabyte drives and > off > > > you go. > > > > > > They have a new Ultra series coming out too that I have not really > > > checked on yet, since mine do all I need them to do.. > > > > > > These things do act as print servers too if you need that, just > plug > > > in a USB printer and you are good to go.. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: > > > > > >> Strictly for home use. Backup of multiple computers, streaming > audio. > > >> Probably will start with 2TB. Don't think I need more than 4 to 6 > > >> down the road, but likely not even that much. I don't have kids so > > >> streaming video from an HD just doens't seem important to me. > > >> Besides, I have so many Blu-rays now that I could never back them > up. > > >> > > >> Anyway, is there something good for under $200? I know the DLink > > >> DNS-323 is going for $150 on Amazon at the moment, but there a > better > > >> choice? I'd like something with esata and USB3.0 too, if possible. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3011 - Release Date: > > > 07/17/10 02:35:00 > > > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > >>> Version: 9.0.839 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3015 - Release Date: > 07/19/10 02:36:00 > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Bryan G. Seitz > > > > > > -- > > JRS > > stei...@pacbell.net > > > > Facts do not cease to exist just > > because they are ignored. > > -- > > Bryan G. Seitz >
