telnet, rlogin, ssh, IP's and ports (was: Java Error)

2006-11-05 Thread Lindy Mayfield
(Funny how I so often get port 23 mixed up with 25, but never 25 confused with 
23.  A strange form of lysdexia I think.)  

Anyway I think it will take me some time to fully understand all you've 
written.  

But one question to clarify.  Are you saying that I can setup the telnet port 
(usually 23) to be a TSO connection and the rlogin port (usually 513) to 
connect to rlogind -- which seems to me to be the most usual setup -- OR I can 
use one port, say telnet 23, and take advantage of VIPA's such that I get to 
either TSO or rlogind via a (virtual) IP address?

So in one case I change the port number, and in the other case I change the IP 
address?

-Lindy


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Subject: Re: Java Error

Chris said:

Now we can be thankful for VIPAs which have the property not to tie an IP 
address to an interface but to tie an IP address to an IP node or, even better 
as in fact here, to tie an IP address to a particular application on an IP 
node. In fact, using VIPAs we no longer need a port number in order to locate a 
server application. This, however, is not possible because the underlying IP 
demultiplexing logic insists on processing a port number.

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The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Phil Payne
SABENA?

There were many interpretations of airline names.

As always on the Internet, someone has a better collection than me.

http://www.travel-images.com/airline-acronyms.html

It misses Back Every Afternoon for BEA - one I always found apposite.

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Printing prom ADCD.

2006-11-05 Thread Rubén López

Hi everybody!

I'm a newbie in Mainframe, and i can't find info about 3278 Printer 
emulation over TCPIP. Can anybody help me to find info about this topic?


My host system is a ADCD z/OS V1R4 Summer.


Thanks in advance... 


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Re: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Michael Ross
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:30:28 -, Phil Payne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SABENA?

There were many interpretations of airline names.

As always on the Internet, someone has a better collection than me.

http://www.travel-images.com/airline-acronyms.html

It misses Back Every Afternoon for BEA - one I always found apposite.

It also misses one of my favourites. The rules that allow airlines to fly
long distances over oceans using planes with only two engines are called
ETOPS - 'Extended-range Twin-engine Operation Performance Standards'. Some
wag suggested it really stood for 'Engines Turning Or Passengers
Swimming'... equally apposite.

Mike
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Re: Any recommendation on Z9-109 can share

2006-11-05 Thread R.S.

Tommy Tsui wrote:


Hi all,

Our shop plan to replace the 2 sets of IBM model  2064-2C5 machine and
we
are connected by parallel sysplex with sysplex timer 9037-002. I found
the model S18 with two books will be a good choice but I have the
following
question?
It is important to understand BOOK concept. Think about 2064 as 
single-book machine. You have several CPs active in your machine. 
However there are more CPs inside, waiting for upgrade. In z9 you can 
have one up to four books, each one contains memory and CPs. You can 
have up to 8 CPs using one book, max. 18 CPs on two-book, etc. However 
you can also have i.e. 5 CPs on two-book model as well as on single-book 
model. Two books in this case gives you better possibility to grow up 
(upgrade), better redundancy. But no CPU power. Both machines have the 
same MIPS or MSU number both have the same capacity marker: 705.

2094 S18 705
2094 S08 705


S18 model
MCMs=2
available PUs=24
Max availabel sub-capacity CP PU=8
Standard SAPs =4
Standard spares = 2
CP/IFL/ICF.ZAAP/ZIIP = 18
max memoary = 256G
max channel = 1024

Question:
1. Can I order each book with 4 CPs that mean total 8 CPs.

AFAIK yes. However AFAIK you cannot decide about CP location.



2. where can I find the actual process model ?  I only found,
  2094-401 to 2094-408  (1 book)
  2094-501 to 2094-508  (2 oooks)
  2094-601 to 2094-608  (3 books)
  2094-701 to 2094-754  (4 books)
  from
www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zeries/lspr/zSerieszOS16MI.html


See explanation above. 4xx, 5xx and 6xx models have reduced power per 
CP. It is done for better granularity of CPU power, which was the issue 
for smaller machines. It is not your problem (2C5 is big machine).




3.  Can I still use the sysplex timer 9037-002 without using the STP ?


Yes.



4.  Except the 8 CPs allocate half in each bookis there another good
choice?


See above. IMHO CP location is not a customer choice.



5.  If I buy another new one S18 model...is it too complex to
interconnect
with the 2 sets of 2064-2C5...as you know the HCD ..is quite different..

any comment will be appreciate ...


It is not complex. The only important difference is multiple channel 
subsystem (CSS) concept. You add processor, then define CSS (new thing 
for z/990 and z9), then define LPARs and channels. In fact you can think 
about CSSes as separate machines. Each have 256 limit for CHPIDs, each 
have 15 limit for LPARs, etc.


HTH
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Re: Competing with IBM

2006-11-05 Thread R.S.
IMHO it is not off-topic. It is topic-less. Phil met some guy in 
Frankfurt. They had some coffee, even beer. He (they unnamed guy) was 
traveling by a train.

Veery exciting.
Did I miss something ?

Oh I forgot, my English is bad, my German even worse, however I vaguely 
recollect that Hauptbahnhof is rather German word for railway station, 
the main one. It's not English, is it ?


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Phil Payne wrote:


Fierce but fair?

An offline comment (it's Friday) and I think it's pertinent.

I fought IBM tooth and nail from 1978 to 1992.  Throughout that time I
found IBM and all other
competitors - at management levels - to be fair and honest people. Some
might find it amazing,
but I think I can claim (some) true friends at most management levels in
all PCMs. There are
even one or two within IBM who find the aßhole business distressing.

There were a lot of good guys out there.

Niggles - yes - but mostly at the fringes.  When you got to the policy
people - no problems.

I had several occasions when something IBM Confidential (real, not
trivial) turned up.  This
was in Germany, in the 1980s.  We called IBM Stuttgart - Industry
Relations - and the response
was always the same: Don't touch it, we will collect it.

To my shame, I've forgotten his name.  An IBM lawyer used to come up
to Frankfurt by train
and I would collect him at the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof.  Herr Dr
Something.  I'm really
ashamed at not remembering his name. Always had a pipe in his mouth -
never to my experience
lit it. Immensely respected within our organisation.  We drove to our
offices, he opened his
legal-type floppy leather briefcase and dropped the documents in, we
shook hands, coffee was
offered and accepted, we set off for the Hauptbahnhof and stopped off
for a beer on the way.



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Re: Question JQES utilization

2006-11-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
 

JQEs are the number of JOBs on the queue.  So you want to increase them to
a large enough number to support the highest number of jobs you have
residing on Spool at any one point in time.

 

I always max it out (or as close to max as possible).  You need to make
sure your checkpoint data set is large enough to support the increase.  I
think there is a formula in the JES2 Init and Tuning guide that will help
you make that determination.

 

Or you can increase your jes2 checkpoint on the fly with a Reconfiguration
dialogue.  I did this a lot under OS/390 V2.10.  It is very easy.

 

You do not need to do anything with OUTDEF  that is for sysout.  You need
to work with JOBNUMs.  Also check to see if you have a flood of jobs coming
in when you see these messages, it could be a scheduling issue or a testing
issue.  One user can submit a lot of jobs if there are all in one PDS member
and the users says SUB on the command line.

 

I would probably increase it to 32000 jobs and just leave it at that.  If
you are adding more systems or environments coming into your MAS, you may
have to upgrade to z/OS sooner than later.  JES2 at OS/390 V2.10 can only
support so much stuff.  If you do not have any OS/390 V1.3 systems then you
can go higher.  Only restriction would be the size of the JES2 Check point
data set.

 

 

Write me offline if you would like to further discuss options to get around
some of these restrictions or if you want more info on the reconfiguration
process in JES2.

 

 

Lizette Koehler  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

 

 


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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread R.S.

Tom Marchant wrote:
[...]

When Amdahl started selling processors, the operating system was free.
When IBM started to charge for it, they knew how much power an Amdahl
processor had and where it fit in the pricing structure.  It's harder
for them to know that with am emulator.  What stops you from putting
in faster processors, or additional processors?


What stops you from using z/OS on large z/Series machine without paying 
for it ?
You can buy license for the smallest z9BC and use the same code on 
2064-2C16 bought on second-hand market. Or several machines. Or without 
buying any license, just pay your friendly sysprog for copy of the tapes...

It's legal issue, not technical one.
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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:14:00 -0600, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Begin Quoted E-mail --

then why couldn't the
customer buy z/OS and run the software on the machine.


You don't buy z/OS.  You license it to run on a particular machne.


When Amdahl started selling processors, the operating system was free.
When IBM started to charge for it, they knew how much power an Amdahl
processor had and where it fit in the pricing structure.  It's harder
for them to know that with am emulator.  What stops you from putting
in faster processors, or additional processors?

Tom Marchant

End Quoted E-mail --

Excuse me for using the word buy -- I knew better that you license
software.

As I said, you license the software for *a particular machine.*
That's the relevant phrase.  You had suggested buying it and
running it on another platform, which would be a violation of
the licensing terms.

Upgrades have always been an issue in the z environment, now others are
taking note of this and trying to do the same things for other platforms.
So, there are a lot of devil in the details.  Like how PSI would handle the
CPU serial number and upgrades to the processor number and speed.  I suppose
they could change the serial number on an upgrade and force the customer to
deal with IBM since the software is licensed to a CPU.


As you say, the devil is in the details.  You've avoided the
question that I asked, so I'll ask it again with emphasis.
What stops *you* from putting in faster processors, or
additional processors?  I didn't ask about PSI upgrading the
underlying hardware.

Of course, PSI could, in principle, provide the same sort of
processor capacity information to the operating system that
modern hardware provides.  Then, if you put in additional or
faster processors, the MSU rating would be provided to MVS.
This would be a non-trivial thing to do accurately due to the
number of variables involved in system performance.

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FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Phil Payne
 When Amdahl started selling processors, the operating system
 was free. When IBM started to charge for it, they knew how much
 power an Amdahl processor had and where it fit in the pricing
 structure.  It's harder for them to know that with am emulator.
 What stops you from putting in faster processors, or additional
 processors?

Rare to see so much ignorance masquerading as authority.

a) IBM didn't have a clue how much power an Amdahl (or any other pocessor) had. 
 Amdahl (and I
was part of the process) declared its processors to IBM.  The late (and 
missed) Henry
Cassel's team was responsible - Tom Moore and others of the FBUPALS.  Huge 
efforts were made
to make the declaration accurate - if you under-declared the user got cheap 
software but
IBM's sales effort would disparage the machine against its own.  If you 
over-declared the
opposite was true - you got bragging rights but the software was more expensive.

And I was also one of the team that re-declared the Amdahl 5990-1100 after an 
IBM
announcement.  If you think IBM is bad, try getting CA to accept a downwards 
re-declaration.

b) You obviously know NOTHING about emulation, or at least commercial emulation.
Fundamental's FLEX-ES is controlled these days by a USB dongle that defines the 
permitted
performance and number of engines.  Yes, you can rehost onto a faster Intel 
processor or add
engines - but FSI's code works with the dongle to deliver exactly the licensed 
MIPS on the
number of engines licensed.  You buy 8 MIPS (actually 7.9) and you get 8 MIPS.  
There is no
uncertainty in the process whatever.  It's even more complex - each dongle has 
a time-limited
software key associated with it and the key must be refreshed periodically.

(And I remember standing on the top of a fire escape in a hotel in Budapest 
downloading such a
key into my Nokia mobile phone from an FTP site in Fremont at around 03:00am a 
few years
back.)

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Re: Question JQES utilization

2006-11-05 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/5/2006 8:36:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

sure  your checkpoint data set is large enough to support the increase.   I
think there is a formula in the JES2 Init and Tuning guide that will  help
you make that determination.




Ah those gray hairsshortly after converting to 2.10 way back when. Had  a 
similar situation and the on-call person did the CHECKPT CONFIG flawlessly,  
only  neglected to tell the DASD person(me) about the new names. When  weekend 
housekeeping ran it
did a DEFRAG on one of the DLIB packs where the new CHECKPTs lived. JES  
failed to be amused...got pretty good at CONFIG there for  awhile!   

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Re: Any recommendation on Z9-109 can share

2006-11-05 Thread Tom Russell
Date:Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:02:16 +0800
From:Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Any recommendation on Z9-109 can share

Question:
1. Can I order each book with 4 CPs that mean total 8 CPs.

If you order a model S18 it will be a two book machine. If you order 8
general purpose CPs, you have no control over which CPs are assigned to
which book.

2. where can I find the actual process model ?  I only found,
  2094-401 to 2094-408  (1 book)
  2094-501 to 2094-508  (2 oooks)
  2094-601 to 2094-608  (3 books)
  2094-701 to 2094-754  (4 books)
  from www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zeries/lspr/zSerieszOS16MI.html

When you order an S18 machine, you also specify a capacity indicator.  If
you order eight CPs, the machine can be specified as a model 408, 508, 608
or 708 depending on which capacity indicator you choose.  The physical
model will still be an S18. All CPs on the machine are the same speed.  A
401 has 1 general purpose CP and capacity indicator CP4.  If you order more
than eight general purpose CPs, for example 9, then the capacity indicator
must be a CP7, and the CPU will have a capacity setting of 709.

You are able to order a 401 capacity setting on any of an S08 (one book),
S18 (two books), S28 (three books), S38 (four books), or S54 (four books).
If you did this these machines would all have one general purpose CP of
about 200 MIPs and a different number of uncharacterized (spare) PUs.

3.  Can I still use the sysplex timer 9037-002 without using the STP ?

Yes.  The 9037-002 is withdrawn from marketing in December, 2006, but is
still supported. GA of STP is in January or February 2007.


4.  Except the 8 CPs allocate half in each bookis there another good
choice?

You have no choice over where the CPs go.

5.  If I buy another new one S18 model...is it too complex to interconnect
with the 2 sets of 2064-2C5...as you know the HCD ..is quite different..

I don't understand your question.  A single IOCDS can contain the
definitions for all three machines if you wanted to connect the new machine
into the existing configuration.  With z/OS 1.7 there is a new format IOCDS
and there are coexistence PTFs and MCL updates required on the old system
to support the new format IOCDS if you are down level.

any comment will be appreciate ...
Check out the Redbook site.

See:  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247124.html?Open
and   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247203.html?Open

or just go to http://www.redbooks.ibm.com  and search for z9.

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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/5/2006 9:30:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You can  buy license for the smallest z9BC and use the same code on 
2064-2C16  bought on second-hand market. Or several machines. Or without 
buying any  license, just pay your friendly sysprog for copy of the tapes...
It's legal  issue, not technical one.




You end paying for all MSUs in service and support. Creatively
you can reduce the charges by moving the ISV software around or unloading  
the print servers to AIX. 
 
Guess about the only time I've every loaned anybody software was when a  
local service bureau was on it's way out and had lost many of it's people and  
had 
a big lightning enema. IBM had the service contract but the customer hadn't  
done maint in a while and their version of ICKDSF wouldn't format the new dasd 
 so I cut them a copy of SAICKDSF and gave it to the SE on the account. 
Paying  for or loaning IBM tapes is illegal in US-Property of IBM. Seen people 
fired for  bringing in unlicensed software to large shops.

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Re: Printing prom ADCD.

2006-11-05 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/5/2006 5:54:17 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

and i  can't find info about 3278 Printer 
emulation over TCPIP. Can anybody help  me to find info about this topic?




ITYM 3287.  The newer printers IBM/Lexmark come with Eth/VTAM,Serial  ports. 
The key is the configuration/customization.
 
For 3287 you need a fixed VTAM LU and this is easy to accomplish with LUGRP  
and LUMAP in TCP PROF/PARMS then you need a VTAM definition for corresponding  
logmode. Think you can pick one from ISTINCLM in SYS1.SAMPLIB for 3287's. 
Then  you need a JES/JES328X
definition for the printer.
 
If you've got IP connectivity you can LPR to just about anywhere
if you know the host and printer queue name.

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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread Ray Mullins
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
 Sent: Saturday 04 November 2006 07:55
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

 Alan, there's nothing wrong with being paternal, as you put 
 it. But sometimes the policies of IBM seem to be rather 
 foolish. And that sometimes makes IBM's legal reps look 
 equally foolish. As a Hercules user, I can't do the software 
 development I'd like to, because MVS 3.8 doesn't have RACF 
 installed; nor does it have the z/OS features that might make 
 things so much more elegant, and efficient, for my efforts. 
 Begging for z/System time from friends isn't really an 
 option, because of the legal ramifications. And there's a 
 bunch of us in the same boat! 

 Being stuck on a barely-adequate pension, I'd like to augment 
 my income with low-priced software that works well (maybe 
 become another McKinney Systems? G) but IBM's policy about 
 licensing z/OS to run under Hercules (NOT) effectively cuts 
 me out. This after being a loyal IBM fan for nearly 40 years. 
 (grumble)

Amen, Rick.  I've got ideas that I'd like to play with but cannot for these
very same reasons.  In my case, it's after 25+ years (including college
days) of being loyal to IBM.

The sad thing is that for my prototype application, I'm having to use Visual
C++ Express on Windows.  I really don't want to (WD4z, anyone?).  But the
price is right.  (Heck, if I could find free time on a BS2000/OSD or MSP
box, I'd take it.  Close enough.)

Later,
Ray

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SHOWzOS 714

2006-11-05 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
The internal beta report some issue but with a little help I was able to fix 
them. 
This version will be public for all as an X-MAS release but it seems some 
z/OS R8 installation won't wait til this so here it is on request. 
Please drop me an email an I'll reply at the end of next week. 

What's new

*$714RS0806 
* Implement enhancements contributed by John Hamlet  JH0806 
*   Unicode display on z/OS R8 (Eyecatcher IR8)  JH0806 
*   ABENDS0C7 in V64USE00 for shared memory objects  JH0806 
* Implement enhancements contributed by Roland Schiradin RS1006 
*   If you run different DB2 on the same image make sure RS1106 
* SHOWzOS runs with the highest level of SDSNLOAD andRS1106 
* SDSNEXIT. Otherwise you might get abends while RS1106 
* running SHOWzOS. Alternate you can omit those libaries RS1106 
* but SHOWzOS is unable to show the real DB2 Version.RS1106 
*   The CICS Region display contains only CICS regions   RS1106 
* with MRO connections. Only those are registered in the RS1106 
* SUDB pool. RS1106 
*   DIAG 204 subtype 6 for z800 and z890 RS1106 
* Identify zAAP in the display (z900 and higher) RS1106 
*   CSRSI VM-Info missingRS1006 
*   ISPF display ISPCFIG/ISPCFIGU data like ISPVCALL RS1006 
*   SMS display Libname for optical drives   RS1006 
*   SMS display LibID for libraries  RS1006 
*   SMS display Volser for each Storage Group and theRS1006 
* capacity, free and total used for each storage group   RS1006 
*   Decimal ASID for LX and Name/Token display   RS1006 
*   Support new DIAG204 set (easier to use)  RS0906 
* Old display still exist to compare the dataRS0906 
*   LPAR Config gets FAILCODE 39 (zIIP)  RS0906 
*   IEAOPTxx CPENABLERS0906 
*   Display Cpucrit/Stgcrit for a service class  RS0906 
*   IMS level for V9 and above   RS0906 
*   SYSEVENT REQSVDAT SMF info for each ASID includesRS0906 
* info for enclaves, zIIP and zAAP if availble   RS0906 
* (Section SMFD00)   RS0906 
*   LE-Option DYNDUMP (z/OS R8, LE-OCB Version 17, HBB7730)  RS0806 
*   Mircocode level (A.Dominguez) not for VM, Herculeus  RS0806 
*   IPL-Statistics layout changed in z/OS R8 (HBB7730)   RS0806 
*   GRS-RPT entry layout changed in z/OS R8 (HBB7730)RS0806 
*   New Event listener code z/OS R8 (HBB7730)RS0806 
*   MIDAW Status (HBB7709)   RS0806 
*   GDPS Status Yes/No (HBB7707) RS0806 
*   Increase buffer for EZBNMIFR from 256KB to 4MB   RS0806 
*   ABENDS0C1 in USERS68 if # of TCP/IP user is zero RS0806 
*   Event listener code 64 (GDPS)RS0806 
*   Bug AIF in IOSCDR wrong (changed) Mark ZeldenRS0806 


Kind reagards 
Roland

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Re: Any recommendation on Z9-109 can share

2006-11-05 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tommy writes:

Our shop plan to replace the 2 sets of IBM model  2064-2C5 machine and we
are connected by parallel sysplex with sysplex timer 9037-002. I found
the model S18 with two books will be a good choice but I have the
following
question?
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1. Can I order each book with 4 CPs that mean total 8 CPs.

You can order a 2094-S18 with 8 CPs, certainly.  However, which books run
the CPs is a technical implementation detail that might be in the hands of
the IBM engineers.  Work with your IBM IT Specialist on that issue.  It
could be that all 8 CPs will run (day to day) on the first book, and that
may not be a bad thing.  Is there a particular reason why you want 4 on one
book and 4 on the other? (Or why you want 8?)

2. where can I find the actual process model ?  I only found,
  2094-401 to 2094-408  (1 book)
  2094-501 to 2094-508  (2 oooks)
  2094-601 to 2094-608  (3 books)
  2094-701 to 2094-754  (4 books)
  from www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zeries/lspr/zSerieszOS16MI.html

That's your choice, based on the order you place with IBM.  With 8 CPs
enabled the last digit will be an 8.  So it'll be a -408, -508, -608, or
-708, depending on your requirements.  For the -708 model all 8 engines run
at full speed.  My guess is you're looking at a -508 model (if you are
taking four 2064-2C5 systems and migrating the workload to two z9 ECs), but
that's just a guess.  Of course you can also vary the number of engines if
something other than 8 makes sense.  The IBM IT Specialist or business
partner can help you figure out what makes the most sense.

3.  Can I still use the sysplex timer 9037-002 without using the STP ?

Yes, you can.  The z9 EC still supports the Sysplex Timers.  But you might
want to look at STP anyway.  Consider the cost of maintenance for the
Sysplex Timers, for example, as well as floor space and electricity.  STP
is supposed to become generally available in January, 2007.  You can also
make this decision separately in the future.  (For example, if you want to
migrate the workload first, then worry about the Sysplex Timers, say, 6
months later, that's could be a perfectly reasonable strategy.)

4.  Except the 8 CPs allocate half in each bookis there another good
choice?

Many are possible, but you'll have to sit down with a professional to look
at your workload.

5.  If I buy another new one S18 model...is it too complex to interconnect
with the 2 sets of 2064-2C5...as you know the HCD ..is quite different..

I'm a little confused since it sounds like you want to replace the z900s
with the z9 EC.  Are you talking about interconnection during migration?

By the way, if you don't have a DR system, you might consider keeping some
number of the z900s (maybe not all) and moving them to another data center.
Talk to your IBM or business partner contacts about this to see if it makes
sense financially and technically.

- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z
Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific
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Re: FW: The PSI Letter V4

2006-11-05 Thread R.S.

Ed Finnell wrote:
 
In a message dated 11/5/2006 9:30:54 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


You can  buy license for the smallest z9BC and use the same code on 
2064-2C16  bought on second-hand market. Or several machines. Or without


buying any  license, just pay your friendly sysprog for copy of the
tapes...
It's legal  issue, not technical one.



(Ed responses:)
[...]

Paying  for or loaning IBM tapes is illegal in US-Property of IBM. Seen
people fired for  bringing in unlicensed software to large shops.


OF COURSE it is illegal, not only in the US. It is as illegal as running 
software on bigger machine than licensed one, or on more machines. 
Breaking any rule from license agreement is illegal (unless law 
regulations allow for something).
My point was it is possible to cheat IBM (illegally of course) without 
Hercules or PSI machine. So, it is not good excuse for denying software 
for PSI machine owners.


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Batch RPG Question

2006-11-05 Thread Chris Phinicarides
Hello!

I need to have a batch RPG program (say A) call another batch RPG program
(say B) and be able to change program B and have program A execute using
the modified program B, without the need to re-compile/link-edit program A.

More specifically, the need is to have a common program, Y say, which will
need to be modified at some later stage. A considerable number of programs,
X1, X2, X3, ..., Xn, say, call program Y. When program Y changes, I do not
want to deal with re-compiling (or link-editing) programs X1, X2, X3, ...,
Xn. Their execution should transparently use the modified program Y.

Any ideas out there?

Please help.

Thanks.

Chris.

PS. I had a similar question regarding PL/I programs the other day. The
answer was using the FETCH statement... What's the equivalent for RPG?

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