Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-11-01 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Again, why? What does he think this will gain him?  Storage class rarely
has any effect on an existing data set.  If he is worried about
restores, it might be easier to deal with in ACS.  If this really has to
happen, build a list of the DSNs (e.g., 3.4) in a dataset and run a
little rexx to alter the storclas of each DSN in the dataset.


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

The user wants to change the STORAGE CLASS of his datasets which were
created prior to the creation of the new storage class.  I am looking at
the option of using the REDETERMINE parm (DFDSS) to help him out.

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-29 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
We still don't know what problem you are trying to solve.  Why do you
want to change the storage class of any existing datasets?  You have
fixed things so he doesn't need to change his JCL.  What more does he
want?

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:46 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

Barry,
   
  The problem occurred overnight.  Seems that user wanted to use the
same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B.  (Both
partitions A  B are independent of each other.  They do not share dasd,
catalogs etc.)
   
  This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs.  
   
  I created a STORAGE CLASS in Partition A, using the same name as in
Partition B.  However, now I have 400 dsns to Alter in Partition A so as
to use the new STORAGE CLASS.

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-29 Thread John Dawes
The user wants to change the STORAGE CLASS of his datasets which were created 
prior to the creation of the new storage class.  I am looking at the option of 
using the REDETERMINE parm (DFDSS) to help him out.

Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  We still don't know what problem 
you are trying to solve. Why do you
want to change the storage class of any existing datasets? You have
fixed things so he doesn't need to change his JCL. What more does he
want?

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:46 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

Barry,

The problem occurred overnight. Seems that user wanted to use the
same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B. (Both
partitions A  B are independent of each other. They do not share dasd,
catalogs etc.)

This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs. 

I created a STORAGE CLASS in Partition A, using the same name as in
Partition B. However, now I have 400 dsns to Alter in Partition A so as
to use the new STORAGE CLASS.

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread John Dawes
Barry,
   
  The problem occurred overnight.  Seems that user wanted to use the same 
STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B.  (Both partitions A  
B are independent of each other.  They do not share dasd, catalogs etc.)
   
  This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs.  
   
  I created a STORAGE CLASS in Partition A, using the same name as in Partition 
B.  However, now I have 400 dsns to Alter in Partition A so as to use the new 
STORAGE CLASS.
   
  Sorry for the delay in replying to your post.
   
  If there is something else I could have done, I would appreciate knowing 
about it.  Please feel free to make suggestions.

Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What is the real problem you are trying to solve?

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

I am in a bind, can I rename a storage class? I am hesitant to try it
out because I don't have a test system. If it is possible, could there
be problems? I assume that I will need to do the translate, validate
and activate.

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread Darth Keller
   The problem occurred overnight.  Seems that user wanted to use the 
same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B.  (Both 
  partitions A  B are independent of each other.  They do not share 
dasd, catalogs etc.)
 
  This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs. 
 
  I created a STORAGE CLASS in Partition A, using the same name as in 
Partition B.  However, now I have 400 dsns to Alter in Partition A so as 
to 
  use the new STORAGE CLASS.
 
  If there is something else I could have done, I would appreciate 
knowing about it.  Please feel free to make suggestions.


Did you consider re-setting the storclas he used in your routines to the 
storclas you wanted?  It would prevent changes to his JCL's  Procs and 
you still would have assigned the StorClas appropriate for that partition.
dd keller


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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread John Kington
John,


 Barry,

   The problem occurred overnight.  Seems that user wanted to use the
 same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in another partition - B.
 (Both partitions A  B are independent of each other.  They do not
 share dasd, catalogs etc.)

   This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs.

   I created a STORAGE CLASS in Partition A, using the same name as
 in Partition B.  However, now I have 400 dsns to Alter in Partition
 A so as to use the new STORAGE CLASS.

   Sorry for the delay in replying to your post.

   If there is something else I could have done, I would appreciate
 knowing about it.  Please feel free to make suggestions.
You can always override the storage class that is specified in the jcl.
I would have put in something like
IF STORCLAS = 'x' THEN SET STORCLAS = 'y'

Regards,
John

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-25 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:45:49 +1000, John Dawes wrote:

The problem occurred overnight.  Seems that user wanted 
to use the same STORAGE CLASS name which exists in 
another partition - B...

This way he wouldn't have to change his jcls, procs.

I hope this was not an ordinary user specifying storage class. 
It should not be necessary to specify a storage class for the 
vast majority of data set allocations.

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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-24 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
What is the real problem you are trying to solve?

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:snip] 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

I am in a bind, can I rename a storage class?  I am hesitant to try it
out because I  don't have a test system.  If it is possible, could there
be problems?  I assume that I will need to do the translate, validate
and activate.

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SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-22 Thread John Dawes
I am in a bind, can I rename a storage class?  I am hesitant to try it out 
because I  don't have a test system.  If it is possible, could there be 
problems?  I assume that I will need to do the translate, validate and activate.
   
  Thanks. 

   
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Re: SMS Question - Rename STORAGE CLASS

2007-10-22 Thread John Kington
John,

 I am in a bind, can I rename a storage class?  I am hesitant to try
 it out because I  don't have a test system.  If it is possible,
 could there be problems?  I assume that I will need to do the
 translate, validate and activate.

If you have never assigned the storage class, it is no problem. If
you already have datasets with the storage class, I recommend you
leave the existing storage class in place and only assign the new
name going forward. It would be difficult to hunt down every dataset
using the old storage class. See IDCAMS ALTER command if you really
need to eliminate the old storage class name everywhere. I would
still keep it in the SMS configuration just in case you missed
any datasets.
Regards,
John

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