Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
On 10/04/2021 3:24 am, Geoff Smith wrote: The link ishttps://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y. Downloaded here in about 8 minutes - a bit over 2MB/s. I must say I do like the "Open" hyperlink to the left of the title - in the past I have selected the wrong manual by failing to correctly follow the horizontal lines across to the right screen edge. I also like the 3 metadata columns to the right of the book's title. Very nice - best since the first 2.3 one IMO. Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
Tried downloading v2r4 and v2r4 yesterday. Got ~25 Kbps when my usual download speed is 1-5 Mbps. Product-neutral documentation would be great. Although Adobe is everywhere in 'shops', it's so clunkly that I (maybe few more people) resort to Firefox's PDF viewer. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, April 9, 2021 10:54 PM, Geoff Smith wrote: > Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our > customers for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site > feedback and try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular attention > to the z/OS product documentation that I work on. Thank you for your > patience. In the meantime, if you like PDF format, the z/OS V2R4 Adobe > Indexed PDF Collection was just updated. It's a 1GB zip that you download and > unzip. You'll need the free Acrobat reader to use the search function. Open > the "zOSV2R4-Search-Index.pdx" file to access the robust search. The link is > https://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y. > > - > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
Just finished downloading it without any problems. Took around 31 mins. Regards Parwez Hamid From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: 09 April 2021 22:03 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte W dniu 09.04.2021 o 19:24, Geoff Smith pisze: > Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our > customers for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site > feedback and try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular > attention to the z/OS product documentation that I work on. Thank you for > your patience. In the meantime, if you like PDF format, the z/OS V2R4 Adobe > Indexed PDF Collection was just updated. It's a 1GB zip that you download > and unzip. You'll need the free Acrobat reader to use the search function. > Open the "zOSV2R4-Search-Index.pdx" file to access the robust search. The > link is https://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y. There is something wrong with the link or with your server. This is n-th time I'm trying to download the documentation and *everytime* it starts with good speed i.e. 2MB/s, but soon the speed is reduced to 20-50kB/s. I checked it several times. It is not a problem with my link - I have no problems with other sites, including some other IBM ones. The problem regards documentation file only. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
On 4/8/2021 11:49 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: Late to the party here, but I have to ask, now that KC is rebranded ... KC was re-branded??! Where can I find out more about this? -- Phoenix Software International Edward E. Jaffe 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ This e-mail message, including any attachments, appended messages and the information contained therein, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient or have otherwise received this email message in error, any use, dissemination, distribution, review, storage or copying of this e-mail message and the information contained therein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of this email message and do not otherwise utilize or retain this email message or any or all of the information contained therein. Although this email message and any attachments or appended messages are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by the sender for any loss or damage arising in any way from its opening or use. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
W dniu 09.04.2021 o 19:24, Geoff Smith pisze: Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our customers for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site feedback and try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular attention to the z/OS product documentation that I work on. Thank you for your patience. In the meantime, if you like PDF format, the z/OS V2R4 Adobe Indexed PDF Collection was just updated. It's a 1GB zip that you download and unzip. You'll need the free Acrobat reader to use the search function. Open the "zOSV2R4-Search-Index.pdx" file to access the robust search. The link is https://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y. There is something wrong with the link or with your server. This is n-th time I'm trying to download the documentation and *everytime* it starts with good speed i.e. 2MB/s, but soon the speed is reduced to 20-50kB/s. I checked it several times. It is not a problem with my link - I have no problems with other sites, including some other IBM ones. The problem regards documentation file only. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC
I don't beleive that you can use 3.4 in a REXX script. Do you mean LMDLIST? That is one of the ISPF services that ADDRESS ISPEXEC supports. The LMD. services provide an easy way to process all of the datasets on a volume. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTCAT, but it won't work on uncatalogued datasets. And I see I left something out: I'm writing a REXX. I can do it in 3.4, but there are too many datasets; I'm tired of doing it manually, especially as I suppose I'll need the process more than once. ...Although come to think of it I can use 3.4 in a REXX, too; DSLIST, is that the service? I don't think I've ever done that before, but I guess it would solve my problem. As I just told someone else, I've heard about CBT for years but never pulled anything from it: I assume clients will be reluctant (or more) to put unknown software on their expensive mainframes. I'm looking for plain vanilla tools. On the other hand, I've been at sites where they use certain CBT functions, and CBT is after all well known. Maybe if I ask my local systems programmer he'll say "sure, we don't mind using CBT stuff". Guess I should at least ask. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* People are always asking couples whose marriages have endured at least a quarter of a century for their secret for success. Actually, it is no secret at all. I am a forgiving woman. Long ago, I forgave my husband for not being Paul Newman. -Erma Bombeck */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 10:06 That's not a LISTCAT function. There are lots of choices on the CBT tape, e.g., VTOC, and there's always ISPF 3.4. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC
What about DCOLLECT? It is also IDCAMS command. AFAIR it is quite flexible - generic volsers, a lot of useful information. -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland W dniu 09.04.2021 o 17:55, Bob Bridges pisze: Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTCAT, but it won't work on uncatalogued datasets. And I see I left something out: I'm writing a REXX. I can do it in 3.4, but there are too many datasets; I'm tired of doing it manually, especially as I suppose I'll need the process more than once. ...Although come to think of it I can use 3.4 in a REXX, too; DSLIST, is that the service? I don't think I've ever done that before, but I guess it would solve my problem. As I just told someone else, I've heard about CBT for years but never pulled anything from it: I assume clients will be reluctant (or more) to put unknown software on their expensive mainframes. I'm looking for plain vanilla tools. On the other hand, I've been at sites where they use certain CBT functions, and CBT is after all well known. Maybe if I ask my local systems programmer he'll say "sure, we don't mind using CBT stuff". Guess I should at least ask. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* People are always asking couples whose marriages have endured at least a quarter of a century for their secret for success. Actually, it is no secret at all. I am a forgiving woman. Long ago, I forgave my husband for not being Paul Newman. -Erma Bombeck */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 10:06 That's not a LISTCAT function. There are lots of choices on the CBT tape, e.g., VTOC, and there's always ISPF 3.4. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993
W dniu 09.04.2021 o 19:21, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: I once worked with a shop that had a similar exit--similar intent anyway--in order to guide a user into following password rules. There are inherent problems with such an exit. First is the difficulty of writing directly to a 3270 screen from a RACF exit. Regular mainframe maintenance has a way of hosing up the exit code, which has to be debugged and modified. Another problem is more subtle. If an intruder were trying to break in to a mainframe system, such an exit might provide unwitting assistance. I think the strategy is to give as little information as possible about logon failures. Logon failures? IMHO ICHPWX01 used for password change, not regular logon. Yes, many people change password during logon, however I don't think it is main goal of the intruder. Last, but not least: password rules HAVE TO OPEN. Otherwise it would be hard to follow them. And no, there is no reason to consider as a secret information which is known to everyone in the company. Regarding rules - IMHO simple MIXEDALL protect against dictionary passwords, however it does not enforce scope of password change. Some users tend to use MyPa$$01, MyPa$$02, MyPa$$03... and , MyPa$$04 for April. Anoter way is shift, like ABCD1234, 1ABCD234, etc. It can be enforced by exit. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka (looking for new job) Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
Thank you Sue Shumway for your contributions and thank you to all our customers for your feedback. I'll be reviewing the IBM Documentation site feedback and try to address as much as I can. I will pay particular attention to the z/OS product documentation that I work on. Thank you for your patience. In the meantime, if you like PDF format, the z/OS V2R4 Adobe Indexed PDF Collection was just updated. It's a 1GB zip that you download and unzip. You'll need the free Acrobat reader to use the search function. Open the "zOSV2R4-Search-Index.pdx" file to access the robust search. The link is https://ibm.biz/Bdf23Y. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993
I once worked with a shop that had a similar exit--similar intent anyway--in order to guide a user into following password rules. There are inherent problems with such an exit. First is the difficulty of writing directly to a 3270 screen from a RACF exit. Regular mainframe maintenance has a way of hosing up the exit code, which has to be debugged and modified. Another problem is more subtle. If an intruder were trying to break in to a mainframe system, such an exit might provide unwitting assistance. I think the strategy is to give as little information as possible about logon failures. Finally, is such an exit even needed? Modern native RACF password rules are pretty sophisticated. Unless a shop has some very unusual password rules, it's probably best to let RACF detect violations and issue appropriate messages. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 6:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993 *** EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening links or attachments *** > I'll probably just take it out There is no harm in doing so, provided (a..) your RACF SETROPTS PASSWORD RULES fully express the limits you wish to enforce; and (b.) your auditors are content with that. No user is going to be discombobulated because a password that used to fail your exit no longer does. Unless I am missing something (which someone will surely point out). Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Pace Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 1:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993 Our system (z/OS 2.4) is running with an old RACF password exit, ICHPWX01, assembly date 01/11/93. Eyecatcher looks like this: ICHPWX01 E9202 01/11/93 16.25 RACF 1.9 We don't have the source code, and it's abending on our z/OS 2.4 system. I'll probably just take it out; it's long past its usefulness. But I was curious about its provenance and thought I'd check here if anyone recognizes it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
Thanks Susan, every issue I've ever had with KC, via the IBM site or a local server you've been very helpful, I don't know if there's a fix (enhancement) for the current tool I would hope those who took over your role would take in all the issues we've discussed here Best of luck to you in your newest endeavor Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Susan To: IBM-MAIN Date: Friday, 9 April 2021 12:01 PM CDT Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte I'm sorry that you're not having luck contacting the IBM Documentation team. They might be overwhelmed with communications about the new launch, so hopefully it's just a matter of time before they respond. FYI to all, I've moved to a different team in IBM and am no longer associated with z/OS or documentation (and therefore no longer regularly checking IBM-MAIN). My old content team is subscribed to IBM-MAIN, though, so keep your feedback coming! I wish you all the best and still might see you around the conference halls. ;-) -Sue Shumway On 4/9/2021 12:34 PM, Colin Paice wrote: > Rather than fill up this discussion list with comments about the new IBM > Documentation site, is there an discussion site for making comments about > the new IBM Documentation? I sent some comments (using their "contact us" > facility) over a week ago but heard nothing back. > > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:10, Paul Gilmartin < > 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:44:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page >> doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time >>> >>> Yeah. Pretty sad. >>> >> +1 >> >> It's sad that the inactive links aren't disabled/dimmed. But that would >> incur the overhead of querying them before display. >> >> -- gil >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Sue Shumway IBM Z Offering Management IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
I'm sorry that you're not having luck contacting the IBM Documentation team. They might be overwhelmed with communications about the new launch, so hopefully it's just a matter of time before they respond. FYI to all, I've moved to a different team in IBM and am no longer associated with z/OS or documentation (and therefore no longer regularly checking IBM-MAIN). My old content team is subscribed to IBM-MAIN, though, so keep your feedback coming! I wish you all the best and still might see you around the conference halls. ;-) -Sue Shumway On 4/9/2021 12:34 PM, Colin Paice wrote: Rather than fill up this discussion list with comments about the new IBM Documentation site, is there an discussion site for making comments about the new IBM Documentation? I sent some comments (using their "contact us" facility) over a week ago but heard nothing back. On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:10, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:44:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time Yeah. Pretty sad. +1 It's sad that the inactive links aren't disabled/dimmed. But that would incur the overhead of querying them before display. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Sue Shumway IBM Z Offering Management IBM Poughkeepsie chale...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
Rather than fill up this discussion list with comments about the new IBM Documentation site, is there an discussion site for making comments about the new IBM Documentation? I sent some comments (using their "contact us" facility) over a week ago but heard nothing back. On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 at 17:10, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:44:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > > >> when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page > doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time > > > >Yeah. Pretty sad. > > > +1 > > It's sad that the inactive links aren't disabled/dimmed. But that would > incur the overhead of querying them before display. > > -- gil > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021 08:44:17 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >> when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't >> exist in that version' almost all the time > >Yeah. Pretty sad. > +1 It's sad that the inactive links aren't disabled/dimmed. But that would incur the overhead of querying them before display. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC
Yeah, that's what I said: I would use LISTCAT, but it won't work on uncatalogued datasets. And I see I left something out: I'm writing a REXX. I can do it in 3.4, but there are too many datasets; I'm tired of doing it manually, especially as I suppose I'll need the process more than once. ...Although come to think of it I can use 3.4 in a REXX, too; DSLIST, is that the service? I don't think I've ever done that before, but I guess it would solve my problem. As I just told someone else, I've heard about CBT for years but never pulled anything from it: I assume clients will be reluctant (or more) to put unknown software on their expensive mainframes. I'm looking for plain vanilla tools. On the other hand, I've been at sites where they use certain CBT functions, and CBT is after all well known. Maybe if I ask my local systems programmer he'll say "sure, we don't mind using CBT stuff". Guess I should at least ask. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* People are always asking couples whose marriages have endured at least a quarter of a century for their secret for success. Actually, it is no secret at all. I am a forgiving woman. Long ago, I forgave my husband for not being Paul Newman. -Erma Bombeck */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 10:06 That's not a LISTCAT function. There are lots of choices on the CBT tape, e.g., VTOC, and there's always ISPF 3.4. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
> when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't > exist in that version' almost all the time Yeah. Pretty sad. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of kekronbekron Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 7:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte Another point - PDF downloads exist but it's not helpful to have an index.html that is literally just a table of PDF names and links. What would be perfect is if I can search across the whole repo of PDFs via a search in the index.html file. Something like CA had when we downloaded their bookshelves. Apart from the complete lack of performance wonky index on the left missing search scope pages breaking when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time .. I personally can get used to the UI of this site. Half of the webpage in KC was headers and footers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/SO V2.3 EOS Date???
I don't know that it has (or has not) been announced. The five previous versions of z/OS went EOS on 9/30 of 2020, 2018, 2016, 2014 and 2012 respectively -- so one might guess 9/30/2022. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 8:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/SO V2.3 EOS Date??? I just went to the lifecycle page z/OS 2.3.x Product ID 5650-zOS License type ICA Lifecycle dates, announcement letters and other information: General availability (GA) 2017-09-29, 217-246 End of marketing (EOM) 2020-01-27, 919-038 Lifecycle policy Enhanced Last updated: 2019-12-04. Where is the announcement for EOS of z/OS V2.3. - I try to keep up on that one -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon? Classification: Confidential z/OS 2.3 is EOS Sep. 2021. JAVA8 is not( I just ordered it for my z/OS 2.4 upgrade). I don't follow JAVA closely enough to wonder about what happened to JAVA9/JAVA10 on z/OS. The last time I looked, IBM had a set of "JAVA web pages" with EOS and support info. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Attila Fogarasi Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Maybe IBM is waiting until z/OS 2.4 is the lowest level still in support :) Java 11 for z/OS was announced as statement of direction over a year ago, and includes capability that prereqs z/OS 2.4 ... but IBM forgot to include that requirement in the SOD. Fwiw, Linux on z has Java 11 available today, of course that doesn't have JZOS or all the other z/OS complexity. I hope I was being facetious as z/OS 2.3 EOS is Sept 2022. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:18 PM David Crayford wrote: > Does anybody have idea when we can expect Java 11 to be GA on z/OS. > IBM have made a statement of direction and I heard from IBMers from > Hursley that it was supposed to GA in 2020. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/SO V2.3 EOS Date???
I just went to the lifecycle page z/OS 2.3.x Product ID 5650-zOS License type ICA Lifecycle dates, announcement letters and other information: General availability (GA) 2017-09-29, 217-246 End of marketing (EOM) 2020-01-27, 919-038 Lifecycle policy Enhanced Last updated: 2019-12-04. Where is the announcement for EOS of z/OS V2.3. - I try to keep up on that one -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon? Classification: Confidential z/OS 2.3 is EOS Sep. 2021. JAVA8 is not( I just ordered it for my z/OS 2.4 upgrade). I don't follow JAVA closely enough to wonder about what happened to JAVA9/JAVA10 on z/OS. The last time I looked, IBM had a set of "JAVA web pages" with EOS and support info. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Attila Fogarasi Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Maybe IBM is waiting until z/OS 2.4 is the lowest level still in support :) Java 11 for z/OS was announced as statement of direction over a year ago, and includes capability that prereqs z/OS 2.4 ... but IBM forgot to include that requirement in the SOD. Fwiw, Linux on z has Java 11 available today, of course that doesn't have JZOS or all the other z/OS complexity. I hope I was being facetious as z/OS 2.3 EOS is Sept 2022. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:18 PM David Crayford wrote: > Does anybody have idea when we can expect Java 11 to be GA on z/OS. > IBM have made a statement of direction and I heard from IBMers from > Hursley that it was supposed to GA in 2020. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte
As much as Bookmanager was antiquated and clunky, it was; easy to manage from the IBM or a local Bookmanager server I could take my local documents and procedures using DCF/SCRIPT and convert these to Books, EASILY I could search - across a bookshelf, in the bookshelf, in the document and get the results I expected. the results from a KC search will list where it found my results only to be lead to the document, not the result within the content. In these days were less and less mainframe folks are working at my site, I find myself spending too much time searching for a solution to an issue and less time doing real work, then add IBM at their whim change the vehicle for viewing documentation. my opinion, my 2 cents Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021 9:26 PM CDT Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte Another point - PDF downloads exist but it's not helpful to have an index.html that is literally just a table of PDF names and links. What would be perfect is if I can search across the whole repo of PDFs via a search in the index.html file. Something like CA had when we downloaded their bookshelves. Apart from the complete lack of performance wonky index on the left missing search scope pages breaking when we 'change version' of product, saying 'whoopsie, this page doesn't exist in that version' almost all the time ... I personally can get used to the UI of this site. Half of the webpage in KC was headers and footers. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, April 9, 2021 12:19 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > Late to the party here, but I have to ask, now that KC is rebranded what > happens to my local KC server, and my ability to serve up docs to my local > customers? there was a way to download old doc using an IBM GUI tool to my > server, is this still a solution? is the KC server and content I have > currently no longer viable? > maybe I missed the answer in the thread? > Susan? > > Carmen Vitullo > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert rob...@garrettfamily.us > To: IBM-MAIN IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021 1:18 PM CDT > Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte > > LOL - "Intuitive" - perhaps if you're the person who wrote this abomination. > > I didn't think it was possible for there to be a doc tool that I hated more, > or was harder to find information in, than KC. IBM just proved me wrong about > that. > > I had just finally gotten familiar with using the scoping tool, so of course > they had to change everything and make us all start over. > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of > Colin Paice > Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 12:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte > > There may be no need for documentation as it was expected to be intuitive! > It would be nice if they had a permanent search box open, rather than click > the eye glass and then enter the data. > > One reason it may be slow is I've seen it do 8 TLS handshakes as part of > getting a page. It goes and tells sites about what it is doing - for > "Analytics". Other sites include "cdn.walkme.com", ec.walkme.com, (WalkMe is > a Digital Adoption Platform (DAP) that works by overlaying information in > "tip-balloons" in the browser window. These balloons break down online > processes into step-by-step instructions.) consent.trustarc.com (consent > manager) > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 17:47, Robert Garrett rob...@garrettfamily.us wrote: > > > Yes, it's HORRIBLY slow and there's no doc on how to use it that I've > > found so far. > > It is possible to scope searches, but you have to first perform a > > search and get some results to be able to set the scope because the > > only place the scope option is available is at the top of the search > > results page. How stupid is that? > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On > > Behalf Of kekronbekron > > Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:53 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: IBM snew DOC Web SIte > > Some more feedback for the Docs team: > > > > 1. Search is extremely slow. The search scope filter is missing. > > Assuming the web site is served from some *nix server, try using > > components from https://github.com/BurntSushi/ripgrep for fast search. > > > > 2. The index in the left takes ages to load. Try doing client-side > > assembly via WASM. > > I'm sure there'll be loads of great articles from one of the Firefox > > blogs on the technology and how to get started, etc. > > > > > > - KB > > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > > On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 7:45 AM, kekronbekron < > > kekronbek...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > > > What would also be usefu
Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC
http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/cbt_ware/vtoc.htm Joe On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:06 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > That's not a LISTCAT function. There are lots of choices on the CBT tape, > e.g., VTOC, and there's always ISPF 3.4. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf > of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: LISTCAT for a VTOC > > I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this > already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a > particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not > catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? > > --- > Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 > > /* If you're not failing when you train or test your security, you're not > learning anything. -Craig Tucker */ > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: LISTCAT for a VTOC
That's not a LISTCAT function. There are lots of choices on the CBT tape, e.g., VTOC, and there's always ISPF 3.4. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 8, 2021 9:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LISTCAT for a VTOC I'm gonna kick myself, I just know I am, but if I know the answer to this already I can't dredge it up. I want to list all the datasets on a particular DASD volume. I'd use LISTCAT LVL('hlq'), but these are not catalogued. Where's the TSO command for that? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* If you're not failing when you train or test your security, you're not learning anything. -Craig Tucker */ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993
Sorry, no luck on my end, I see nothing that matches the eye-catchers you describe. Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Carmen To: IBM-MAIN Date: Friday, 9 April 2021 7:30 AM CDT Subject: Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993 By any chance do you know what site that exit came from? in the mean time let me look to see if I have the original or modified source, most exits at one time were location / site specific until the MCD and Boeing Merger. Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Richard To: IBM-MAIN Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021 3:37 PM CDT Subject: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993 Our system (z/OS 2.4) is running with an old RACF password exit, ICHPWX01, assembly date 01/11/93. Eyecatcher looks like this: ICHPWX01 E9202 01/11/93 16.25 RACF 1.9 We don't have the source code, and it's abending on our z/OS 2.4 system. I'll probably just take it out; it's long past its usefulness. But I was curious about its provenance and thought I'd check here if anyone recognizes it. Its messages have the form: BACPA1 I it must be 6 to 8 positions in length BACPB1 I it must contain at least one numeric character BACPB2 I it must contain at least one alphabetic character etc., The "BAC" reminds me of Boeing Aircraft Corporation and William Mosteller (former SHARE JES2 Deputy project manager, 1980's). There is a ICHPWX01 exit on the CBT, but doesn't match this. Regards, Richard Pace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993
By any chance do you know what site that exit came from? in the mean time let me look to see if I have the original or modified source, most exits at one time were location / site specific until the MCD and Boeing Merger. Carmen Vitullo -Original Message- From: Richard To: IBM-MAIN Date: Thursday, 8 April 2021 3:37 PM CDT Subject: ICHPWX01 password exit source circa 1993 Our system (z/OS 2.4) is running with an old RACF password exit, ICHPWX01, assembly date 01/11/93. Eyecatcher looks like this: ICHPWX01 E9202 01/11/93 16.25 RACF 1.9 We don't have the source code, and it's abending on our z/OS 2.4 system. I'll probably just take it out; it's long past its usefulness. But I was curious about its provenance and thought I'd check here if anyone recognizes it. Its messages have the form: BACPA1 I it must be 6 to 8 positions in length BACPB1 I it must contain at least one numeric character BACPB2 I it must contain at least one alphabetic character etc., The "BAC" reminds me of Boeing Aircraft Corporation and William Mosteller (former SHARE JES2 Deputy project manager, 1980's). There is a ICHPWX01 exit on the CBT, but doesn't match this. Regards, Richard Pace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon?
Classification: Confidential z/OS 2.3 is EOS Sep. 2021. JAVA8 is not( I just ordered it for my z/OS 2.4 upgrade). I don't follow JAVA closely enough to wonder about what happened to JAVA9/JAVA10 on z/OS. The last time I looked, IBM had a set of "JAVA web pages" with EOS and support info. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Attila Fogarasi Sent: Friday, April 9, 2021 5:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon? [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.] Maybe IBM is waiting until z/OS 2.4 is the lowest level still in support :) Java 11 for z/OS was announced as statement of direction over a year ago, and includes capability that prereqs z/OS 2.4 ... but IBM forgot to include that requirement in the SOD. Fwiw, Linux on z has Java 11 available today, of course that doesn't have JZOS or all the other z/OS complexity. I hope I was being facetious as z/OS 2.3 EOS is Sept 2022. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:18 PM David Crayford wrote: > Does anybody have idea when we can expect Java 11 to be GA on z/OS. > IBM have made a statement of direction and I heard from IBMers from > Hursley that it was supposed to GA in 2020. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Java 11 coming anytime soon?
Maybe IBM is waiting until z/OS 2.4 is the lowest level still in support :) Java 11 for z/OS was announced as statement of direction over a year ago, and includes capability that prereqs z/OS 2.4 ... but IBM forgot to include that requirement in the SOD. Fwiw, Linux on z has Java 11 available today, of course that doesn't have JZOS or all the other z/OS complexity. I hope I was being facetious as z/OS 2.3 EOS is Sept 2022. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 7:18 PM David Crayford wrote: > Does anybody have idea when we can expect Java 11 to be GA on z/OS. IBM > have made a statement of direction and I heard from IBMers from Hursley > that it was supposed to GA in 2020. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN