[IceHorses] survival ideas

2007-08-06 Thread Janice McDonald
people around here are talking like thiswinter/next spring is gonna be
a hay shortage to end all hay shortages.  I have been trying to be
creative and come up with some ideas for survival if need be.  I have
a gas line easement at the end of my property outside my pasture and i
am going to plant rye there, and clover and rye in all barespots.  I
have a large section of yard that is just weeds so my husband is gonna
disk it and we are gonna plant rye.  Where the gas line easement
continues outside my property...It is thru land owned by the div of
forestry.  I think I will contact them and ask if I can do something
similar to a hunting lease and plant rye there and string some
temporary elect wire for grazing.  I can always walk them to hand
graze in the woods.  but horses need so much forage!

Any ideas??  I dont have a large storage area.  What hay I stockpile
has to be covered in tarps and by spring it is always so bad the
horses will barely eat it and now they are saying we may not even have
that come spring...  none to stockpile.  my hay man says he is four
cuttings behind and it is going to be bad this winter.


Janice

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Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas

2007-08-06 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 06/08/07, Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 people around here are talking like thiswinter/next spring is gonna be
 a hay shortage to end all hay shortages.

Janice, what we have done during dry years is feed hay cubes.  The
horses did great on them.  The best part is they can take all the old
mouldy hay, process it, and all the mould is killed.  So it's a clean,
healthy food by the time your horse gets it.

I had a mostly timothy(with a bit of alfalfa) cube.

Something to think about.  We have a cube plant about an hour away, so
we can take the trailer and load up any time we want

Just an idea...

Wanda


RE: [IceHorses] survival ideas

2007-08-06 Thread Karen Thomas
 http://www.abc.net.au/landline/stories/s805364.htm


Is this intended for feeding meat-producing livestock or for horses...?

There's a quote in that article I immediately noticed that I'm not sure I
buy into:  God never made animals to eat dry hay and grain, God made
animals to eat green feed and that's all we are doing, the Fodder Factory's
Peter Ryan.

Did horses really evolve in areas where there is always green grass?  My
understanding is that horses first appeared on the American plains (although
they were extinct in North America by the time Columbus arrived).  I believe
that grass was generally sparse in the areas they first lived, and that the
practice of feeding them on lush green pastures is a man-made practice.  I
do believe that grain is a fairly foreign foodstuff for horses, but I'd bet
much of the natural forage they found on their own (especially in winter)
was more hay-like than green-fescue-like.

I typically try to closely observe my horses when the grass is growing fast,
so the idea of feeding them freshly sprouted greenstuffs makes me a wee bit
edgy.

Karen
Karen Thomas
Wingate, NC


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Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas

2007-08-06 Thread Janice McDonald
thats a good point Karen.  here in NW fla deer eat acorns and lichens
etc.  i find deer tracks in my pasture every day where they come in at
nite in ecstasy over a little grass.  People bait up deer with sweet
feed and corn and they go nuts.
Janice--
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Re: [IceHorses] survival ideas

2007-08-06 Thread Robyn Schulze
On 8/6/07, Robyn Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Janice,
 The hay shortage in Florida is so sad,  I have a friend in Oklahoma who has
 so much hay they can't get cut all they have as they don't know where to
 sell it to.

This is how it is for us here this year too. But a few years ago, I
was afraid that I wouldn't find any, and we paid $8/small bale that
year. I was ready to feed cubes. This year I found nice grass hay for
$5/bale, and there's plenty of it.  On that dry year tho, there ended
up being enough hay to go around b/c a number of truckers brought
loads in from elsewhere to sell.

Janice, maybe you can rent a flatbed trailer and head out to OK to
pick up a load of hay.

Robyn S