RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
Hi Jim Hopefully with the resurgence of interest in this topic by several listers we will see some movement by the Legacy design team in an upcoming upgrade. Clooz was too fraught with glitches and promises of tomorrow for me to spend much time with. There is also a voice of caution whispering be wary of tiny publishers developing programs you depend on. I do applaud the basis of the Clooz filing methodology. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan & James Bruckman Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:46 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs Gary, I have submitted those suggestions to "new features". I have also made the suggestion to Geoff R at the 2006 Cruise, and at the Chicago National Genealogy Meeting. So far I have not seen nor heard anything. I keep hoping, since I have my paper copies of documents filed based on the "Clooz" style, although I do not use Clooz anymore; simply use the Legacy File ID in the same manner. Jim Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
Gary, I have submitted those suggestions to "new features". I have also made the suggestion to Geoff R at the 2006 Cruise, and at the Chicago National Genealogy Meeting. So far I have not seen nor heard anything. I keep hoping, since I have my paper copies of documents filed based on the "Clooz" style, although I do not use Clooz anymore; simply use the Legacy File ID in the same manner. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs This responds to both Jim and Nancy's comments. First, Jim. You are exactly correct. Legacy does not provide a File ID report sorted alphabetically by name. This is a serious shortcoming for the many of us who file records "the correct way" (said with a smile for those who don't). :) I encourage you and others to use the Legacy "Suggest a new feature" feature and ask the design team to include a File ID report sorted alphabetically by LName/FName in their next update. You might also mention including on the report: LName, FName, FileID, Date, Caption, Description. Next, Nancy. I would encourage you to abandon the use of last names in your FileID reference. FileIDs are intended for record filing, not family association. If the record you are filing is a birth record you might consider using the prefix "D" for Document. Then issuing it the next number in your Document numbering sequence (for instance D0234). That FileID is then attached to each person mentioned in the record. When a FileID report is produced (sorted by FileID) it will list that same FileID multiple times (for each individual the record pertains to). If we also had an alphabetical FileID report we could also produce a FileID report sorted by name. With this you would find each individual listed with however many FileIDs s/he had attached. Thereby seeing all the records you had on file for uncle Joe. See my comments above regarding "Submit a new feature" in hopes that an alphabetical ID report will be added in the next release. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan & James Bruckman Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs Furthermore, it would be nice to be able to produce a list of every individual with that File ID, or to produce a list of every File ID that an individual is on. I have not been able to get Legacy to do this. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Bender Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] File IDs I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the File ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have noticed something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a document that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file id as something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to the next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it display like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times it is used? Thank you, Nancy _ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.
RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
This responds to both Jim and Nancy's comments. First, Jim. You are exactly correct. Legacy does not provide a File ID report sorted alphabetically by name. This is a serious shortcoming for the many of us who file records "the correct way" (said with a smile for those who don't). :) I encourage you and others to use the Legacy "Suggest a new feature" feature and ask the design team to include a File ID report sorted alphabetically by LName/FName in their next update. You might also mention including on the report: LName, FName, FileID, Date, Caption, Description. Next, Nancy. I would encourage you to abandon the use of last names in your FileID reference. FileIDs are intended for record filing, not family association. If the record you are filing is a birth record you might consider using the prefix "D" for Document. Then issuing it the next number in your Document numbering sequence (for instance D0234). That FileID is then attached to each person mentioned in the record. When a FileID report is produced (sorted by FileID) it will list that same FileID multiple times (for each individual the record pertains to). If we also had an alphabetical FileID report we could also produce a FileID report sorted by name. With this you would find each individual listed with however many FileIDs s/he had attached. Thereby seeing all the records you had on file for uncle Joe. See my comments above regarding "Submit a new feature" in hopes that an alphabetical ID report will be added in the next release. Gary Near St Louis MO USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan & James Bruckman Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 7:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs Furthermore, it would be nice to be able to produce a list of every individual with that File ID, or to produce a list of every File ID that an individual is on. I have not been able to get Legacy to do this. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Bender Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] File IDs I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the File ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have noticed something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a document that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file id as something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to the next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it display like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times it is used? Thank you, Nancy _ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive
Re: [LegacyUG] File IDs
If you use the File ID in the Source Detail/Citation rather than in the Master Source (I do both), then the File ID will show in the list more than once. I think this is due to the way Source Details are stored in the database. They aren't stored once but there is a copy entered every time that source detail is used - even when used multiple times for the same individual. Cathy At 09:26 AM 5/01/2007, you wrote: I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the File ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have noticed something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a document that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file id as something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to the next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it display like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times it is used? Thank you, Nancy Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
Probably because the File ID identifies the specific Legacy file (and there is only one of each) and is not designed as the identifier of a hard copy. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs* Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/ __ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] File IDs > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 19:26:41 -0500 > > I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the File > ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have noticed > something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a document > that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file id as > something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to the > next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I > look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it display > like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times it is > used? > > Thank you, > Nancy > > _ > Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > > > Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features > not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at > http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > _ Be one of the first to try Windows Live Mail. http://ideas.live.com/programpage.aspx?versionId=5d21c51a-b161-4314-9b0e-4911fb2b2e6d Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File IDs
Furthermore, it would be nice to be able to produce a list of every individual with that File ID, or to produce a list of every File ID that an individual is on. I have not been able to get Legacy to do this. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Bender Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 6:27 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] File IDs I have been reading the messages about organizing files and using the File ID field in Legacy. I have been using the File ID field but I have noticed something that I have been curious about for awhile. If I have a document that has more than one person's name (which many do), I enter the file id as something like SMITH001 for the first person I use it for. When I get to the next person, I find that same ID in the list and use it, but then when I look again later, I see SMITH001 in the list twice. Why doesn't it display like master sources and only show up once regardless of how many times it is used? Thank you, Nancy _ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM Have you unlocked the real power of Legacy? Legacy 6.0 Deluxe has 92 features not found in the Standard Edition. Learn more about these features at http://legacyfamilytree.com/DeluxeEdition.asp. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp