Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Yosem Companys]

My comments inline below in blue...

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:49 AM Richard Brooks  wrote:

> Reminds me of a proposal I wrote for an ethics course to NSF.
> My proposed course looked at the economics of the industry, as
> pointed out by Ross Anderson, that the market rewards bad
> and insecure software. This means that structurally it is
> almost impossible to be ethical and survive. The course included
> finding regulatory and market modifications that would support
> producing secure systems and economic survival.
>
> I find something wrong with a system that supports making
> insecure products.
>
> My course proposal was turned down. My favorite review
> of the proposal said it is wrong to combine ethics and
> economics.
>

That was the question Oliver Williamson asked before his being awarded the
Nobel Prize in Economics.

Research by Dale Miller
 and
others shows that students who take economics courses in college become
more selfish and less altruistic after taking the course.

My Harvard advisor Jeffrey Sachs once told me the story about how the
President of the University of Chicago -- then an economist -- heard Jeff
go on and on about the importance of technologies to what was then called
"developing economies." When Jeff was done, the President turned to him and
said, "Jeff, you know that there's no such thing as technology because we
haven't modeled it mathematically yet."

When I came to Stanford and turned to the natural and behavioral sciences,
one of my professors would introduce me at parties as a "recovering
economist," which I always found amusing.


> We should teach them to do the ethical thing, especially
> when it means that they will go bankrupt.
>
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Richard Brooks]

> But I wonder what the pedagogical research literature says about the
> best way to teach ethics? I'm data-driven, so I'd rather see empirical
> evidence guide educational policy or someone conduct a study to assess
> the best course of action.

I doubt that you could come up with an empirical measure of ethics.

Reminds me of a proposal I wrote for an ethics course to NSF.
My proposed course looked at the economics of the industry, as
pointed out by Ross Anderson, that the market rewards bad
and insecure software. This means that structurally it is
almost impossible to be ethical and survive. The course included
finding regulatory and market modifications that would support
producing secure systems and economic survival.

I find something wrong with a system that supports making
insecure products.

My course proposal was turned down. My favorite review
of the proposal said it is wrong to combine ethics and
economics.

We should teach them to do the ethical thing, especially
when it means that they will go bankrupt.

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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Terry Winograd]

This is an ongoing debate.  The observation about how students treat a
single required ethics course is valid, and therefore it requires a lot of
work to make it more engaging (as Stanford is trying to do now).  The
problem with trying to integrate it into courses in general is that either
it is taught by faculty who have the same "let's get this over with"
attitude, or by special visiting faculty who drop in for a session or two,
and it still isn't integrated and leads to complaints about losing course
time that the faculty need for the "real material.".  Of course it depends
on the local culture and personalities.
--t

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:35 AM Doug Schuler (via cpsr-activists list)
 wrote:

>
> I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my take
> on what he was saying.
>
> IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
> relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
> technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
> and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.
>
> This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
> at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
> of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
> but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
> that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.
>
> — Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys 
> wrote:
>
>> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
>> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Good info!
>>>
>>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
>>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
>>> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
>>> this in the engineering department at MIT.
>>>
>>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>>>
>>> — Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 speaking of curriculum:
 Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
 Gazette

 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists
 list)  wrote:

> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
>  wrote:
>
>> CPSR Folks,
>>
>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything 
>> online
>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Johnson
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Yosem Companys]

Interesting. In a related vein, from my experience, I'll note the following:

   - When underrepresented minorities started getting minimal
   representation at research-one universities, these universities started
   creating programs specifically focused on helping underrepresented
   minorities transition to their new environment. Over the years, mostly
   members of the non-minority community began to argue that having two
   different admit weekends -- one for underrepresented minorities and one for
   everyone else -- was a form of segregation and recommended eliminating such
   programs.
   - While serving on the admissions committee as an undergrad at Yale, I
   proposed that we have multicultural days during the regular admit weekend
   and require that members of the non-minority community attend it, rather
   than have a "minority admit weekend." Members of the non-minority community
   objected stating that such events should be optional only (even though all
   other admit weekend events were required) or that they shouldn't be held at
   all because otherwise other events would have to be removed from the
   schedule. Members of the minority communities also opposed the proposal,
   saying that the status quo of having an extra minority weekend beyond the
   admit weekend served the communities better. But once the members of the
   minority communities realized that the members of the non-minority
   community opposed the plan, they began to like it more.
   - Pondering on what you wrote below, it might be better for the teaching
   of ethics to require that every course have an ethics component. That way,
   students take whatever courses they want but are still exposed to ethics.

But I wonder what the pedagogical research literature says about the best
way to teach ethics? I'm data-driven, so I'd rather see empirical evidence
guide educational policy or someone conduct a study to assess the best
course of action.

My two cents.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:34 AM Doug Schuler 
wrote:

>
> I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my take
> on what he was saying.
>
> IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
> relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
> technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
> and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.
>
> This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
> at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
> of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
> but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
> that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.
>
> — Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys 
> wrote:
>
>> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
>> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Good info!
>>>
>>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
>>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
>>> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
>>> this in the engineering department at MIT.
>>>
>>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>>>
>>> — Doug
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 speaking of curriculum:
 Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
 Gazette

 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists
 list)  wrote:

> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
>  wrote:
>
>> CPSR Folks,
>>
>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything 
>> online
>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff Johnson
>> 
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Yosem Companys]

Good point, Terry. I didn't think of that.

On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:48 AM Terry Winograd (via cpsr-activists list)
 wrote:

> This is an ongoing debate.  The observation about how students treat a
> single required ethics course is valid, and therefore it requires a lot of
> work to make it more engaging (as Stanford is trying to do now).  The
> problem with trying to integrate it into courses in general is that either
> it is taught by faculty who have the same "let's get this over with"
> attitude, or by special visiting faculty who drop in for a session or two,
> and it still isn't integrated and leads to complaints about losing course
> time that the faculty need for the "real material.".  Of course it depends
> on the local culture and personalities.
> --t
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 9:35 AM Doug Schuler (via cpsr-activists list)
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my
>> take on what he was saying.
>>
>> IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
>> relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
>> technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
>> and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.
>>
>> This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
>> at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
>> of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
>> but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
>> that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.
>>
>> — Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
>>> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>>
 Good info!

 I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
 adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
 take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
 this in the engineering department at MIT.

 I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.

 — Doug



 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
  wrote:

> speaking of curriculum:
> Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum –
> Harvard Gazette
>
> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists
> list)  wrote:
>
>> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists
>> list)  wrote:
>>
>>> CPSR Folks,
>>>
>>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
>>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
>>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything 
>>> online
>>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jeff Johnson
>>> 
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Doug Schuler]

I probably shouldn't have dragged Dick's name into this but here's my take
on what he was saying.

IF the ethics / social responsibility material presented in college is
relegated to a single, required course (and is not integrated with more
technical material throughout) then it likely to be disparaged by students
and teachers alike in the department — and thereby have little effect.

This is evidence from many many years ago but the engineers I worked with
at Boeing who had had an ethics course acted like it was total BS, a waste
of time, and not their concern. I'm not saying that they all felt this way
but their views seemed to be fairly commonplace — which is why I thought
that Dick's comments were probably pretty relevant.

— Doug





On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:34 PM Yosem Companys  wrote:

> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler <
> doug...@publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>
>> Good info!
>>
>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
>> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
>> this in the engineering department at MIT.
>>
>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>>
>> — Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> speaking of curriculum:
>>> Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
>>> Gazette
>>>
>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists list)
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...

 On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
  wrote:

> CPSR Folks,
>
> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything 
> online
> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff Johnson
> 
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[liberationtech] 2nd Call Social Media Track at EGOV-CeDEM-ePart 2-4 September, San Benedetto del Tronto, Italy

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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[RICHARD BROOKS]

ABET accreditation requirements include ethics and some type of
contemporary issues awareness. This has to be addressed in the curriculum
in at least one course.

This can be, does not have to be, a separate course. It can be more
effective as part of another course.

To be accredited, the department has to show the accreditation authorities
that this requirement is fulfilled.

On 5:02AM, Fri, Feb 1, 2019 Daniel Bosk  On Thu 31 Jan 2019 21:28:53 GMT, Doug Schuler wrote:
> > I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
> > adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
> > take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
> > this in the engineering department at MIT.
> >
> > I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>
> Not as a class. But it's definitely part of the courses in a programme.
> For instance, I start my Computer Security course with a seminar on such
> a topic. Instruction here:
>
>
> https://github.com/OpenSecEd/ethics/releases/download/v1.1/security-society-seminar.pdf
>
> This is actually motivated by the Swedish Qualifications Ordinance [1],
> which regulates requirements for academic degrees in Sweden. Already at
> Bachelor level we have:
>
>   For a Degree of Bachelor the student shall
>
>   - demonstrate the ability to make assessments in the main field of
> study informed by relevant disciplinary, social and ethical issues
>
>   - demonstrate insight into the role of knowledge in society and the
> responsibility of the individual for how it is used
>
>   [...]
>
>   For a Degree of Bachelor of Science in Engineering the student shall
>
>   - demonstrate the ability to make assessments informed by relevant
> disciplinary, social and ethical aspects
>
>   - demonstrate insight into the possibilities and limitations of
> technology, its role in society and the responsibility of the
> individual for how it is used, including social and economic aspects
> as well as environmental and occupational health and safety aspects,
>
> And then it increases the requirements for Masters and PhDs.
>
> [1]:
> https://www.uhr.se/en/start/laws-and-regulations/Laws-and-regulations/The-Higher-Education-Ordinance/Annex-2/
>
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > speaking of curriculum:
> > > Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
> > > Gazette
> > >
> > >
> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists
> list)
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> CPSR Folks,
> > >>>
> > >>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
> > >>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I
> remembering
> > >>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything
> online
> > >>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Jeff Johnson
> > >>> 
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Daniel Bosk]

On Thu 31 Jan 2019 21:28:53 GMT, Doug Schuler wrote:
> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that
> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to
> take was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using
> this in the engineering department at MIT.
> 
> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
 
Not as a class. But it's definitely part of the courses in a programme. 
For instance, I start my Computer Security course with a seminar on such 
a topic. Instruction here:

  
https://github.com/OpenSecEd/ethics/releases/download/v1.1/security-society-seminar.pdf

This is actually motivated by the Swedish Qualifications Ordinance [1], 
which regulates requirements for academic degrees in Sweden. Already at 
Bachelor level we have:

  For a Degree of Bachelor the student shall

  - demonstrate the ability to make assessments in the main field of 
study informed by relevant disciplinary, social and ethical issues

  - demonstrate insight into the role of knowledge in society and the 
responsibility of the individual for how it is used

  [...]

  For a Degree of Bachelor of Science in Engineering the student shall

  - demonstrate the ability to make assessments informed by relevant 
disciplinary, social and ethical aspects

  - demonstrate insight into the possibilities and limitations of 
technology, its role in society and the responsibility of the 
individual for how it is used, including social and economic aspects 
as well as environmental and occupational health and safety aspects,

And then it increases the requirements for Masters and PhDs.

[1]: 
https://www.uhr.se/en/start/laws-and-regulations/Laws-and-regulations/The-Higher-Education-Ordinance/Annex-2/

> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list)
>  wrote:
> 
> > speaking of curriculum:
> > Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard
> > Gazette
> >
> > https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists list)
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list)
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> CPSR Folks,
> >>>
> >>> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially
> >>> Responsible Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering
> >>> correctly?  If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything 
> >>> online
> >>> about it.  Of course, it probably is decades old.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jeff Johnson
> >>> 
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Re: [liberationtech] [cpsr-activists] CPSR Curriculum?

[Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes]

Well, I was certainly surprised and encouraged when a while back I received 
this booklet in the mail: The “ACM Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct!”

Regards / Saludos / Grato

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes

> On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:34 PM, Yosem Companys  wrote:
> 
> Why did he think it was a bad idea?
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 9:29 PM Doug Schuler 
>>  wrote:
>> Good info!
>> 
>> I had been talking to Dick Sclove about this recently and he said that 
>> adding ethics or social responsibility as a class that graduates had to take 
>> was essentially a bad idea. Louis Bucciarelli  apparently was using this in 
>> the engineering department at MIT.
>> 
>> I wonder if this approach is being taken in any other CS departments.
>> 
>> — Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:55 PM Paul (via cpsr-activists list) 
>>>  wrote:
>>> speaking of curriculum:
>>> Harvard works to embed ethics in computer science curriculum – Harvard 
>>> Gazette
>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/01/harvard-works-to-embed-ethics-in-computer-science-curriculum/
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:01 PM Yosem Companys (via cpsr-activists list) 
  wrote:
 Wow, I'd love to see that, even if for historical reasons...
 
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 6:33 PM Jeff Johnson (via cpsr-activists list) 
>  wrote:
> CPSR Folks,
> 
> I seem to recall that educators in CPSR developed a “Socially Responsible 
> Computing” curriculum for college courses.  Am I remembering correctly?  
> If so, please refresh my memory, or point me to anything online about it. 
>  Of course, it probably is decades old.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff Johnson
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