Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I'm also interested in Robert's git talk, as proposed by Robert. bjb On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:10:07AM -0400, Kevin Szabo wrote: > Newbie here, so I don't know how the group votes on topics so please excuse > if this is the wrong method. > > I would love a Git fundamentals talk. I've use SCCS RCS CVS Subversion PLS > Clearcase etc, but never had the foundations course on Git. I think it > would be useful for me to help make the mental map between the various > version control systems > > - Kevin > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:29 AM Robert P. J. Day > wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > > > > > Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat > > > notes"... > > > > ironically, when i teach my full intro git class, the very, very > > first thing i explain is that, while lots of people just want a git > > "cheat sheet", that doesn't really help you unless you understand the > > underlying architecture. > > > > i'm not joking ... i always start off with something like, "i > > realize a lot of you just want a cheat sheet, you know, give me the 10 > > or 20 git commands i need to be productive, and i'm outta here." and i > > immediately explain, "it doesn't work that way; unless you truly > > understand something called the 'object database' and what git objects > > are and how they work together, you have no chance of truly knowing > > how to use git." > > > > so after basic git configuration and cloning a repository, i explain > > very carefully about git objects (blob, tree, commit, tag), and how > > they are used to represent git history, at which point there is always > > a revelation on the part of the class, "oh, wow, now i get it." and > > without that understanding of the underlying architecture, you're > > never going to feel comfortable with git as you're never going to be > > sure what it's really *doing*. > > > > anyway, just my $0.02. that's what i was offering to present, if > > there's time and folks are interested. > > > > rday > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > > > > ---end quoted text--- To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
When I posted the announcement (not the email, but Scott has more or less copied my wording), I anticipated what he suggests -- 30-45 mins for each topic. Assuming Scott goes first, I think we can assume starting git discussion about 7:15, and I was presuming Robert would begin with about 30 mins of more or less standard talk, and I would moderate Q&A to get in some topics I feel affect those of us who are non-power users and need a way to avoid being "cold" each time we need to use git. Robert: Does that work for you? This conversation highlights the situation that Linux-Ottawa is a much less focussed group than a few years ago, and the general lack of organizational manpower to plan and direct meetings. Those of us still doing it do make sure there is a space and some topic. Sometimes we've more structure than others. I note that lots of other organizations are facing similar challenges. Meetups seem to pop up and die quite a lot. Traditional organizations find folk claiming not to have time. Maybe we need 5 days a month where mobiles only handle phone calls. Or a mandatory app that allows only 35 mins a day lit screen. We also have several different streams of users. Whereas when I started to come to the then OCLUG meetings, it was mostly folk doing software development. Now we also have Win-refugees, people wanting to use open source software who are not necessarily programmers, as well as our hard-core. Some members may feel that this "just isn't like it used to be", and makes for difficult meetings -- it does! The up-side is that Linux is now more widely used, and by a more diverse base. That could be an opportunity, but probably we need to involve new members to exploit that. JN On 2019-11-01 7:42 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: >> >>> I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what >>> I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure >>> your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour >>> talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 >>> minutes. >> >> so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to >> present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git >> object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash >> will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that >> means. >> >> can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed >> talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. > > as a followup to this, i think the description of upcoming meetings > should always be more precise and scheduled so that interested parties > can better decide if it's something they're interested in. > > currently, the description is somewhat vague: > > * Scott Murphy will talk about provisioning your personal systems > with ansible > * Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git > > if someone is interested in ansible, they would still be wondering > exactly what the topic would be. more to the point, if someone had no > idea what ansible is, it would be worth adding a couple sentences to > describe it to get their attention. > > and i'm willing to provide a paragraph of exactly what my proposed > talk would be about so attendees would know just what's coming, and if > they care. :-) > > if there's time for my presentation, i'd advertise it socially, but > it would need more detail on the web page. > > thoughts? > > rday > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: > > > I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what > > I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure > > your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour > > talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 > > minutes. > > so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to > present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git > object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash > will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that > means. > > can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed > talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. as a followup to this, i think the description of upcoming meetings should always be more precise and scheduled so that interested parties can better decide if it's something they're interested in. currently, the description is somewhat vague: * Scott Murphy will talk about provisioning your personal systems with ansible * Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git if someone is interested in ansible, they would still be wondering exactly what the topic would be. more to the point, if someone had no idea what ansible is, it would be worth adding a couple sentences to describe it to get their attention. and i'm willing to provide a paragraph of exactly what my proposed talk would be about so attendees would know just what's coming, and if they care. :-) if there's time for my presentation, i'd advertise it socially, but it would need more detail on the web page. thoughts? rday
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, Scott Murphy wrote: > I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what > I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure > your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour > talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 > minutes. so can we get a more precise schedule? as i mentioned, i offered to present what can be a 30-minute talk on the architecture of the git object database. the oclug web page states, "Robert Day and John Nash will lead a discussion on using git", but i have no idea what that means. can someone clarify whether there is any interest in my proposed talk and, if so, where it would fit in the evening? thanks. rday
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019, Kevin Szabo wrote: > Newbie here, so I don't know how the group votes on topics so please > excuse if this is the wrong method. > > I would love a Git fundamentals talk. I've use SCCS RCS CVS > Subversion PLS Clearcase etc, but never had the foundations course > on Git. I think it would be useful for me to help make the mental > map between the various version control systems just to explain the rationale behind my thinking, i was one of the pre-publication reviewers for both editions of ORA's book "version control with git" by jon loeliger, the second edition of which can be found here (check the acknowledgements :-): http://file.allitebooks.com/20160207/Version%20Control%20with%20Git,%202nd%20Edition.pdf when i started to review the first edition lo those many years ago, the current chapter 4 was not there, the book went straight to what is now chapter 5. i told the author that i think, at that point in the book, he *really* needed to explain the underlying architecture (particularly the object store); otherwise, readers would not understand the underlying effect of subsequent commands. i was fairly pushy about that, and even gave jon a detailed outline of what i thought the chapter should look like. he went away for a couple of months, and came back with something fairly close to the chapter 4 that's in there now, and that chapter is what i cover during the morning of my 1-day intro git class. my position is that if you don't understand git objects and their relation, you will never truly understand git. and that's all i have to say about that. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
Newbie here, so I don't know how the group votes on topics so please excuse if this is the wrong method. I would love a Git fundamentals talk. I've use SCCS RCS CVS Subversion PLS Clearcase etc, but never had the foundations course on Git. I think it would be useful for me to help make the mental map between the various version control systems - Kevin On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:29 AM Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > > > Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat > > notes"... > > ironically, when i teach my full intro git class, the very, very > first thing i explain is that, while lots of people just want a git > "cheat sheet", that doesn't really help you unless you understand the > underlying architecture. > > i'm not joking ... i always start off with something like, "i > realize a lot of you just want a cheat sheet, you know, give me the 10 > or 20 git commands i need to be productive, and i'm outta here." and i > immediately explain, "it doesn't work that way; unless you truly > understand something called the 'object database' and what git objects > are and how they work together, you have no chance of truly knowing > how to use git." > > so after basic git configuration and cloning a repository, i explain > very carefully about git objects (blob, tree, commit, tag), and how > they are used to represent git history, at which point there is always > a revelation on the part of the class, "oh, wow, now i get it." and > without that understanding of the underlying architecture, you're > never going to feel comfortable with git as you're never going to be > sure what it's really *doing*. > > anyway, just my $0.02. that's what i was offering to present, if > there's time and folks are interested. > > rday > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > >
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I don't disagree. But I find the git view unnecessarily complicated for my uses, so stick to subversion where I can. However, many others I need to collaborate with use git on Github and Gitlab. Where they need me more than I need them, I make them run git. JN On 2019-10-30 5:29 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > >> Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat >> notes"... > > ironically, when i teach my full intro git class, the very, very > first thing i explain is that, while lots of people just want a git > "cheat sheet", that doesn't really help you unless you understand the > underlying architecture. > > i'm not joking ... i always start off with something like, "i > realize a lot of you just want a cheat sheet, you know, give me the 10 > or 20 git commands i need to be productive, and i'm outta here." and i > immediately explain, "it doesn't work that way; unless you truly > understand something called the 'object database' and what git objects > are and how they work together, you have no chance of truly knowing > how to use git." > > so after basic git configuration and cloning a repository, i explain > very carefully about git objects (blob, tree, commit, tag), and how > they are used to represent git history, at which point there is always > a revelation on the part of the class, "oh, wow, now i get it." and > without that understanding of the underlying architecture, you're > never going to feel comfortable with git as you're never going to be > sure what it's really *doing*. > > anyway, just my $0.02. that's what i was offering to present, if > there's time and folks are interested. > > rday >
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat > notes"... ironically, when i teach my full intro git class, the very, very first thing i explain is that, while lots of people just want a git "cheat sheet", that doesn't really help you unless you understand the underlying architecture. i'm not joking ... i always start off with something like, "i realize a lot of you just want a cheat sheet, you know, give me the 10 or 20 git commands i need to be productive, and i'm outta here." and i immediately explain, "it doesn't work that way; unless you truly understand something called the 'object database' and what git objects are and how they work together, you have no chance of truly knowing how to use git." so after basic git configuration and cloning a repository, i explain very carefully about git objects (blob, tree, commit, tag), and how they are used to represent git history, at which point there is always a revelation on the part of the class, "oh, wow, now i get it." and without that understanding of the underlying architecture, you're never going to feel comfortable with git as you're never going to be sure what it's really *doing*. anyway, just my $0.02. that's what i was offering to present, if there's time and folks are interested. rday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I’m up for adding a git talk to the November meeting. I’m doing what I expect will be a shorter ansible talk about using it to configure your laptop, workstation, or whatever. I doubt it will be a two hour talk. I suspect that the main points will be covered in 30 to 45 minutes. Scott > On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:49 AM, J C Nash wrote: > > I have more of my own stuff on Gitlab. However, I'm interested in learning a > bit > more about using git effectively in collaboration with others no matter which > platform > (or their own site) they are using. The git paradigm is not trivial. For > those of us > who use it sporadically there is some "relearning" each time. Recently I > found I failed > to get a pull request to work properly. Still not sure why. I suspect there's > other > members who are not power users of git who can benefit from some helpful > cheat notes > and diagrams, as well as an overview of the web interface. > > JN > > > On 2019-10-29 10:22 a.m., Rick Leir wrote: >> Hi John and Robert >> There might be time for a Github vs Gitlab chat. Several notable projects >> went to Gitlab, possibly due to a long >> standing antipathy to Microsoft. I am at Github myself. >> Cheers >> Rick >> >> On October 29, 2019 10:07:57 AM EDT, J C Nash wrote: >> >>I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... >> >>Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. >> >>Thanks, JN >> >>On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: >> >>A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the >>items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing >> that I >>didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing >>with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development >>with for the last couple of years. >> >>Your input would be most welcome. >> >> >>well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was >>thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a >>little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store >>and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, >>trees, commits and tags. >> >>if people are interested, i can give that one. >> >>rday >> >> >>To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >>To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >>To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >> >> >> -- >> Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
Indeed, I'm mainly interested in pragmatic use. As indicated "cheat notes". I think I was at Ian's presentation, but somehow did not grasp what I needed to know the other week. And as with so many powerful tools, the devil is in those easily forgotten details. Unless my memory is really bad, I don't think we've had anything much on the Web interface(s), and my guess is that casual users like me could take advantage of those. I failed to issue the pull request via that route, in fact. JN On 2019-10-29 12:34 p.m., Tug Williams wrote: > I had understood that next week's discussion would be more aimed at top down > pragmatic use of git in the real world - > hopefully based on the "tools should make life easier, not inflict pain" > principal. > > We had a bottom up talk a while back. I think Ian gave it? > > Tug > > On 2019-10-29 11:49, J C Nash wrote: >> I have more of my own stuff on Gitlab. However, I'm interested in learning a >> bit >> more about using git effectively in collaboration with others no matter >> which platform >> (or their own site) they are using. The git paradigm is not trivial. For >> those of us >> who use it sporadically there is some "relearning" each time. Recently I >> found I failed >> to get a pull request to work properly. Still not sure why. I suspect >> there's other >> members who are not power users of git who can benefit from some helpful >> cheat notes >> and diagrams, as well as an overview of the web interface. >> >> JN >> >> >> On 2019-10-29 10:22 a.m., Rick Leir wrote: >>> Hi John and Robert >>> There might be time for a Github vs Gitlab chat. Several notable projects >>> went to Gitlab, possibly due to a long >>> standing antipathy to Microsoft. I am at Github myself. >>> Cheers >>> Rick >>> >>> On October 29, 2019 10:07:57 AM EDT, J C Nash wrote: >>> >>> I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... >>> >>> Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. >>> >>> Thanks, JN >>> >>> On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: >>> >>> A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of >>> the >>> items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing >>> that I >>> didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm >>> developing >>> with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing >>> development >>> with for the last couple of years. >>> >>> Your input would be most welcome. >>> >>> >>> well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was >>> thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a >>> little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object >>> store >>> and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, >>> trees, commits and tags. >>> >>> if people are interested, i can give that one. >>> >>> rday >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a blank message to >>> linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >>> To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >>> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com >> To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >> To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >> To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org >> To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I had understood that next week's discussion would be more aimed at top down pragmatic use of git in the real world - hopefully based on the "tools should make life easier, not inflict pain" principal. We had a bottom up talk a while back. I think Ian gave it? Tug On 2019-10-29 11:49, J C Nash wrote: I have more of my own stuff on Gitlab. However, I'm interested in learning a bit more about using git effectively in collaboration with others no matter which platform (or their own site) they are using. The git paradigm is not trivial. For those of us who use it sporadically there is some "relearning" each time. Recently I found I failed to get a pull request to work properly. Still not sure why. I suspect there's other members who are not power users of git who can benefit from some helpful cheat notes and diagrams, as well as an overview of the web interface. JN On 2019-10-29 10:22 a.m., Rick Leir wrote: Hi John and Robert There might be time for a Github vs Gitlab chat. Several notable projects went to Gitlab, possibly due to a long standing antipathy to Microsoft. I am at Github myself. Cheers Rick On October 29, 2019 10:07:57 AM EDT, J C Nash wrote: I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. Thanks, JN On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing that I didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development with for the last couple of years. Your input would be most welcome. well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, trees, commits and tags. if people are interested, i can give that one. rday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I have more of my own stuff on Gitlab. However, I'm interested in learning a bit more about using git effectively in collaboration with others no matter which platform (or their own site) they are using. The git paradigm is not trivial. For those of us who use it sporadically there is some "relearning" each time. Recently I found I failed to get a pull request to work properly. Still not sure why. I suspect there's other members who are not power users of git who can benefit from some helpful cheat notes and diagrams, as well as an overview of the web interface. JN On 2019-10-29 10:22 a.m., Rick Leir wrote: > Hi John and Robert > There might be time for a Github vs Gitlab chat. Several notable projects > went to Gitlab, possibly due to a long > standing antipathy to Microsoft. I am at Github myself. > Cheers > Rick > > On October 29, 2019 10:07:57 AM EDT, J C Nash wrote: > > I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... > > Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. > > Thanks, JN > > On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > > A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the > items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing > that I > didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing > with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development > with for the last couple of years. > > Your input would be most welcome. > > > well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was > thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a > little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store > and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, > trees, commits and tags. > > if people are interested, i can give that one. > > rday > > > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org > To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org > To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org > > > -- > Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
Hi John and Robert There might be time for a Github vs Gitlab chat. Several notable projects went to Gitlab, possibly due to a long standing antipathy to Microsoft. I am at Github myself. Cheers Rick On October 29, 2019 10:07:57 AM EDT, J C Nash wrote: >I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... > >Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. > >Thanks, JN > >On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: >> >>> A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the >>> items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing that I >>> didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing >>> with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development >>> with for the last couple of years. >>> >>> Your input would be most welcome. >> >> well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was >> thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a >> little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store >> and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, >> trees, commits and tags. >> >> if people are interested, i can give that one. >> >> rday >> > >To unsubscribe send a blank message to >linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org >To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org >To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I suspect Scott will get this via the list, but just in case ... Probably worth a little coordination so we have a smooth meeting. Thanks, JN On 2019-10-29 10:06 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > >> A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the >> items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing that I >> didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing >> with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development >> with for the last couple of years. >> >> Your input would be most welcome. > > well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was > thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a > little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store > and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, > trees, commits and tags. > > if people are interested, i can give that one. > > rday > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, J C Nash wrote: > A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the > items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing that I > didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing > with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development > with for the last couple of years. > > Your input would be most welcome. well, if there's an open speaking slot, i can present what i was thinking of as a 35-40 minute "brown bag" lunchtime seminar. it's a little bit techie -- it explains the structure of Git's object store and how Git actually stores history using a combination of blobs, trees, commits and tags. if people are interested, i can give that one. rday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
Re: [linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
A discussion of using git (in particular on github) is one of the items for next week's meeting. I suggested it after realizing that I didn't manage a change properly with an R package I'm developing with a colleague I've never met but have been sharing development with for the last couple of years. Your input would be most welcome. JN On 2019-10-28 8:40 a.m., Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > I hope I'm not straying too far from the mandate for this list, but > I'm going to take a chance as it's the opportunity for some folks in > town to get some free seminars or some of my Git training at no > charge. > > As a way to promote my Git classes (and other training courses), I > thought one way to get some attention would be to just offer some > presentations at absolutely no charge, and I'm considering the > following two possibilities. > > First, I'm willing to give free lunchtime presentations to > corporations that can put together enough people who are interested. I > can easily talk on intro Git for 40-50 minutes just to give attendees > at least a basic understanding of Git. Obviously, the end goal would > be to then eventually sell the full courses, but the short > presentation would be no charge, and no real limit on how many people > could attend (short of violating a fire code of some kind, of course. > :-) So, there's that. > > I'm also considering a slightly more ambitious promotion, wherein I > would offer my full 1-day Introductory Git class at absolutely no > charge, but it would be limited to just one person per distinct > company. The idea here would be, naturally, that a company could pick > one engineer to get the instruction, then go back and recommend the > course to the team. > > I'm intersted in list members' feedback on either of these ideas. > The lunchtime seminar thing is basically available right now, the free > full-day course would make more sense, say, early January since it > would take some organizing. > > Thoughts? If you and your company are interested, by all means, drop > me a note. If you know someone at another company who might be > interested, let them know. > > Rob Day > > P.S. I'm currently designing some Docker/container courses, and am > thinking of doing the same with those. > > P.P.S. I'm currently on contract out in Kanata, so interest out here > would be ideal. > To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
[linux] Thinking of giving away some Git courses/seminars to promote my classes
I hope I'm not straying too far from the mandate for this list, but I'm going to take a chance as it's the opportunity for some folks in town to get some free seminars or some of my Git training at no charge. As a way to promote my Git classes (and other training courses), I thought one way to get some attention would be to just offer some presentations at absolutely no charge, and I'm considering the following two possibilities. First, I'm willing to give free lunchtime presentations to corporations that can put together enough people who are interested. I can easily talk on intro Git for 40-50 minutes just to give attendees at least a basic understanding of Git. Obviously, the end goal would be to then eventually sell the full courses, but the short presentation would be no charge, and no real limit on how many people could attend (short of violating a fire code of some kind, of course. :-) So, there's that. I'm also considering a slightly more ambitious promotion, wherein I would offer my full 1-day Introductory Git class at absolutely no charge, but it would be limited to just one person per distinct company. The idea here would be, naturally, that a company could pick one engineer to get the instruction, then go back and recommend the course to the team. I'm intersted in list members' feedback on either of these ideas. The lunchtime seminar thing is basically available right now, the free full-day course would make more sense, say, early January since it would take some organizing. Thoughts? If you and your company are interested, by all means, drop me a note. If you know someone at another company who might be interested, let them know. Rob Day P.S. I'm currently designing some Docker/container courses, and am thinking of doing the same with those. P.P.S. I'm currently on contract out in Kanata, so interest out here would be ideal. -- Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday To unsubscribe send a blank message to linux+unsubscr...@linux-ottawa.org To get help send a blank message to linux+h...@linux-ottawa.org To visit the archives: https://lists.linux-ottawa.org
