Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Mike
Actually I think the fake cylinder heads look much nicer than my 
battery box.  I wouldn't mind having something like that on my bike.


http://home.comcast.net/~damonhenry/Suzuki09.jpg


Naw, you just need a cover on the front box is all.  Go to McMaster 
and buy some 1/8" PVC and have at it with a heat gun!


Here's an idea.  What if you painted both boxes to match the tank?  I 
think that would really bring the whole thing together.


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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Mike
that they'll either: A) Think that it's some kind of electric 
piston, or B) won't consider it a real bike without cylinder heads, 
despite _knowing_ it's electric?  Of course, then there's the gas 
tank ...


I suspect it's B.  That's been my first hand impression with a lot of 
motorcyclists  unfortunately.



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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Mike
On the flip side, you didn't build a custom bike -- you fit your 
components into an existing frame, which (to me) is rather an 
accomplishment in itself.  Making a custom frame around the 
components is (in some sense) "easier".


A lot of the 'customs' aren't.  The builder often just buys the parts 
then fabs them up. Not all do this and I understand that it's not 
even a necessity but it bugs me.


I dunno about you guys but when I convert a bike, I think it's fun to 
try NOT to modify the frame at all.  So far both of my conversion are 
'drop in'.  You could pull the electric components and put the ICE 
back in, for what ever reason.



Maybe it's just my nerdy nature; chrome and unnecessary decoration 
are superfluous.


I'll agree with that to a medium-large degree. Nearly all my bikes 
(ICE and EV) are rattle canned. Though, I have to publicly admit that 
my number 2 bike (Rapier) is getting fancy ass doo-dads just 'cause.



I rather think this bike is pretty damn cool, despite being an ICE; 
It has "Road Warrior" written all over it:


http://www.bikeweb.com/node/980


I've seen that one before. I like it.

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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Poulsen
True that battery box isn't pretty, but a bit of fairing would help 
looks and aerodynamics.  The cardboard doesn't help, either.  On the 
flip side, you didn't build a custom bike -- you fit your components 
into an existing frame, which (to me) is rather an accomplishment in 
itself.  Making a custom frame around the components is (in some sense) 
"easier".


In a larger sense, though, people seem to really shy away from the 
"rolling science project" look; they really want to hide the nature of 
the vehicle.  Personally, I like that look, provided it's not gratuitous 
or non-utilitarian.  Maybe it's just my nerdy nature; chrome and 
unnecessary decoration are superfluous. And don't get me started on 
those little leather tassels on the handlebars. *shudder*  Just seems 
odd that the only vehicles with those are choppers, and ... little pink 
bicycles for girls.


I rather think this bike is pretty damn cool, despite being an ICE; It 
has "Road Warrior" written all over it:


http://www.bikeweb.com/node/980

damon henry wrote:
Actually I think the fake cylinder heads look much nicer than my 
battery box.  I wouldn't mind having something like that on my bike.


http://home.comcast.net/~damonhenry/Suzuki09.jpg



From: Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles 
To: ElectricMotorcycles 
Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:56:47 -0800

Not at all impressed.

Also, this bike, and the CHP electric chopper 
(http://www.bikernet.com/bikebarn/PageViewer.asp?PageID=583) seem to 
have a need for a fake motor, or at least cylinder heads.  Why is 
that?  The CHP article even calls it an "Electric V-Twin," which is 
ridiculous, as the V-Twin refers to the piston engine layout.  Do 
they really think people are so stupid that they'll either: A) Think 
that it's some kind of electric piston, or B) won't consider it a 
real bike without cylinder heads, despite _knowing_ it's electric?  
Of course, then there's the gas tank ...


Of course, noone ever accused the custom chopper guys of having 
substance over style.




Mike wrote:
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle001.jpg 



http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle002.jpg 



http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle003.jpg 



http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle004.jpg 





I'm not terribly impressed with the looks of that. Any one else?  It 
looks to me like they tossed some batteries in the frame then 
wrapped them with a bread box. Ness usually comes up with better 
looking stuff than that.







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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread damon henry
Actually I think the fake cylinder heads look much nicer than my battery 
box.  I wouldn't mind having something like that on my bike.


http://home.comcast.net/~damonhenry/Suzuki09.jpg



From: Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ElectricMotorcycles 
To: ElectricMotorcycles 
Subject: Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 09:56:47 -0800

Not at all impressed.

Also, this bike, and the CHP electric chopper 
(http://www.bikernet.com/bikebarn/PageViewer.asp?PageID=583) seem to have a 
need for a fake motor, or at least cylinder heads.  Why is that?  The CHP 
article even calls it an "Electric V-Twin," which is ridiculous, as the 
V-Twin refers to the piston engine layout.  Do they really think people are 
so stupid that they'll either: A) Think that it's some kind of electric 
piston, or B) won't consider it a real bike without cylinder heads, despite 
_knowing_ it's electric?  Of course, then there's the gas tank ...


Of course, noone ever accused the custom chopper guys of having substance 
over style.




Mike wrote:

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle001.jpg

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle002.jpg

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle003.jpg

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle004.jpg



I'm not terribly impressed with the looks of that. Any one else?  It looks 
to me like they tossed some batteries in the frame then wrapped them with 
a bread box. Ness usually comes up with better looking stuff than that.







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Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Hastings
Well besides a basic ewww..
It says “The batteries should allow the bike to run
six hours at 80 mph."
Statements like that lead people to some real
disapointment if not true. ANd if it were where the
heck do I get me some! 

--- Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not at all impressed.
> 
> Also, this bike, and the CHP electric chopper 
>
(http://www.bikernet.com/bikebarn/PageViewer.asp?PageID=583)
> seem to 
> have a need for a fake motor, or at least cylinder
> heads.  Why is that?  
> The CHP article even calls it an "Electric V-Twin,"
> which is ridiculous, 
> as the V-Twin refers to the piston engine layout. 
> Do they really think 
> people are so stupid that they'll either: A) Think
> that it's some kind 
> of electric piston, or B) won't consider it a real
> bike without cylinder 
> heads, despite _knowing_ it's electric?  Of course,
> then there's the gas 
> tank ...
> 
> Of course, noone ever accused the custom chopper
> guys of having 
> substance over style.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike wrote:
> >>
>
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle001.jpg
> 
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle002.jpg
> 
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle003.jpg
> 
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle004.jpg
> 
> >>
> >
> > I'm not terribly impressed with the looks of that.
> Any one else?  It 
> > looks to me like they tossed some batteries in the
> frame then wrapped 
> > them with a bread box. Ness usually comes up with
> better looking stuff 
> > than that.
> >
> 
> 
> 




Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Poulsen

Not at all impressed.

Also, this bike, and the CHP electric chopper 
(http://www.bikernet.com/bikebarn/PageViewer.asp?PageID=583) seem to 
have a need for a fake motor, or at least cylinder heads.  Why is that?  
The CHP article even calls it an "Electric V-Twin," which is ridiculous, 
as the V-Twin refers to the piston engine layout.  Do they really think 
people are so stupid that they'll either: A) Think that it's some kind 
of electric piston, or B) won't consider it a real bike without cylinder 
heads, despite _knowing_ it's electric?  Of course, then there's the gas 
tank ...


Of course, noone ever accused the custom chopper guys of having 
substance over style.




Mike wrote:
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle001.jpg 

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle002.jpg 

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle003.jpg 

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle004.jpg 



I'm not terribly impressed with the looks of that. Any one else?  It 
looks to me like they tossed some batteries in the frame then wrapped 
them with a bread box. Ness usually comes up with better looking stuff 
than that.







Re: [ElectricMotorcycles] Arlen Ness Electric Motorcycle

2007-02-07 Thread Mike

http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle001.jpg
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle002.jpg
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle003.jpg
http://www.bikemenu.com/builder/Arlen_Ness/Arlen_Ness_Electric_Motorcycle004.jpg


I'm not terribly impressed with the looks of that. Any one else?  It 
looks to me like they tossed some batteries in the frame then wrapped 
them with a bread box. Ness usually comes up with better looking 
stuff than that.


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