Re: [lubuntu-users] I've Lost My Desktop Menus

[Narcis Garcia]

(assume that you don't see both desktop icons and bottom panel)
This procedure resets them:

[Alt]+[F2]
lxterminal
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
rm -fr ~/.config/lxpanel
rm -fr ~/.config/lxsession
rm -fr ~/.config/pcmanfm
sudo reboot

El 11/09/16 a les 05:50, Pat Brand ha escrit:
> At boot up today, I received a system error message. My desktop looked ok, 
> but I had no  menu along the left side of the screen. I googled the problem, 
> found some solutions, but have two issues at this point:
> 1) I need to get into a terminal screen to write the relevant commands, 
> because supposedly the issue of missing menu items is not unusual. And I 
> could probably do the fix if I could access a terminal, but can't using 
> ctl/alt/T. 
> But 2) I can't access a terminal, because the alternate command to do it, 
> ctl, alt., F1, requires me to input my username and password,.but I can't 
> remember them.
> 
> I found some solutions in Google, but they don't seem to work.
> 
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated (I'm fairly new to Linux 
> (Ubuntu), so not really familiar with all the command, etc.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Georgia & Pat
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Scanning thru network not working?

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I can make network scan with these Brother Wifi devices, but only
through a Windows virtual machine running inside GNU/Linux.
Brother seems to provide network scanning software only for Windows,
because it uses a closed~privative protocol.

Decent network scanners are FTP capable, and then all it's easier and
decent.


El 04/09/16 a les 14:25, Liam Proven ha escrit:
> On 2 September 2016 at 21:13, Barry Titterton  
> wrote:
>> I think that it depends upon the driver software that is bundled with
>> the device.
> 
> No, as indicated by your own very next sentence:
> 
>> I have a Brother MFD that claims to be able to scan over
>> wifi.
> 
> So it has Wifi. It is network-capable. This is not the same as a
> USB-only device.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] usb tethering not working?

[Narcis Garcia]

I install many computers with GNU/Linux (laptop and desktop), and 99% of
Wifi adapters worked, some with special configuration, and some without
any special.


El 02/09/16 a les 14:27, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Liam Proven  > wrote:
> 
> On 2 September 2016 at 14:11, Marlon Ng  > wrote:
> > I understand what you're saying, but based on my experience, I have to
> > disagree with you that the purpose of USB tethering is for the PC to 
> use the
> > phone's mobile data connection.  I very seldom use mobile data 
> connection as
> > that would be expensive.  I assure you that I always use the phone's 
> wifi so
> > my desktop can connect to the internet.
> 
> I honestly see no point in having a $300-$600 self-powered wifi
> adaptor which requires an app and manual setup when they are so cheap.
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?output=search=shop=usb+wifi+dongle=usb+wifi+dongle_l=products-cc.3..0l5.675.675.0.1000.1.1.0.0.0.0.74.74.1.1.00...1ac.2.64.products-cc..0.1.73.sQFpBRti1RI#tbs=vw:l,mr:1,cat:290,pdtr0:734889%7C734890,pdtr1:709607%7C709608,price:1,ppr_max:15=shop=usb+wifi
> 
> 
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but most wifi adapters  don't work in linux,
> right?  Or at least where I'm from, it's very rare if at all that I see
> wifi adapters that work in linux, and I HAVE been looking around.  I'm
> also hesitant to order online.  Also, you might say I can use
> ndiswrapper, but ndiswrapper can be very unstable sometimes.
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] usb tethering not working?

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Unless your mobile device runs Lubuntu, this mailing list has nothing to
do specifically to wireless tethering.

Lubuntu in the traditional computer should allow to connect through a
Wifi device to a wireless network if it's present and properly configured.
Nothing specific to wireless tethering.


El 01/09/16 a les 18:31, Liam Proven ha escrit:
> On 29 August 2016 at 10:54, Marlon Ng  wrote:
>> Not sure what you mean by that.  Apps on the phone? I don't use wvdial.  I
>> just turn on wifi on the phone, connect it to the desktop computer, go to
>> settings of the phone, the tick usb tethering, that's it
> 
> 
> Hang on. That makes no sense.
> 
> *Either* use USB *or* Wifi but not both.
> 
> The purpose of USB tethering is for the PC to use the phone's mobile
> data connection.
> 
> It's not for using the phone's wifi: use the computer's own wifi.
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Yakkety Yak Beta 1 Call for Testing

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"WARNING: This image is OVERSIZED. This should never happen during
milestone testing."


El 25/08/16 a les 22:35, Walter Lapchynski ha escrit:
> A little late, but here's your announcement! Go test, please!
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/366/builds/129632
> 
> We're running down to the last minute where the assigned Canonical folks
> will be around, so we really need folks to test ASAP. I'd appreciate it
> if you could make sure to only do test cases that are not yet done.
> Please make sure to mark the test case you're working on as "in process"
> as soon as you boot.
> 
> If you have any other questions, email or better yet, come see us on
> #lubuntu-devel on Freenode.
> 
> Thanks everyone!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Simon Quigley  > wrote:
> 
> Yep, I'll announce when the next respin comes around.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Alt + F2 not working on laptop?

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Same behaviour if you use Alt+F4 to close windows?


El 23/08/16 a les 07:35, Stefan Kleyer ha escrit:
> Hi,
> 
> I have similar problems on my Lenovo Laptop. Sometimes it works,
> sometimes nothing happens when I press ALT-F2. I dont have that problem
> on my desktop PC.
> 
> Sincerely
> Stefan
> 
> On 22 August 2016 13:31:56 CEST, Andre Campos Rodovalho
>  wrote:
> 
> I use Lubuntu also in laptop. No problems regarding this... Is the
> keyboard hardware completely functional? Is your laptop a Apple laptop?
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-08-22 7:13 GMT-03:00 Marlon Ng  >:
> 
> Hi guys.  Alt + F2 is the run program, correct? It works fine on
> my desktop computer, but I get no response in laptop.
> 
> Anyone else experiencing this?
> 
> Thanks guys
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Network icon gone?

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Right button to status bar -> Add/Remove panel items: Indicator applets

You can run this command directly too: nm-connection-editor

El 23/08/16 a les 08:38, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
> Hi guys. This is not a bug, just something stupid that I did and now I
> can't fix it.
> 
> I used to be able to usb tether with my LG phone to my desktop computer
> to access internet. Now I can't. So I installed connman. Didn't work so
> I removed it. But when I log back in, the network icon disappeared, and
> I cannot connect. I already Googled it, can't find  anything.
> suggestions please? Or do I have to SF-install everything?
> 
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

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I believed that Lubuntu can run with RAM 256~384MiB
Many old computers (not super old) don't boot USB media. Some because
BIOS hasn't the feature, and some because presented boot option doesn't
work.
Is Plop included in ISO image as SmartBootMedia* is?

I believe an old computer is recoverable if it can be used as a
typewriter, printing, managing USB volumes to save documents, and
some networking {shared folders, shared printers, wikipedia browsing,
etc.}. If it's easy to use and compatible with hardware
upgrades... better then.

About heavy packages for east asiatic fonts, there is a Kylin project
more adequate for them. It's like the impossibility to include full
spanish desktop in a live session --> it will be installed when
installing to hard disk with internet access.

I cannot mind that a simple and usable operating system doesn't fit in
700MiB... and compressed... and expandable with package manager.

No body remembers that Lubuntu was based on the old Ubuntu Lite (u-lite)
and its purposes?
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ulite


(*) Lacks of sbminst


El 12/08/16 a les 20:42, Nio Wiklund ha escrit:
> [bottom posting]
> 
> Den 2016-08-12 kl. 09:33, skrev Narcis Garcia:
>> The lightest variant of Ubuntu, Lubuntu, should fit on a traditional
>> CD-ROM and should be installable without internet access. This is the
>> typical scenario (small computer, small internet) where someone chooses
>> Lubuntu.
>>
>> I believe all basic variants of Lubuntu should fit on a 700MB CD-ROM:
>> i386-desktop*
>> powerpc-desktop*
>> i386-alternate
>> powerpc-alternate
>>
>> - Why Mozilla software is kept instead of CUPS?? What about Midori
>> browser or others? Firefox is 45MiB compressed, Midori 11MiB, full CUPS
>> 10MiB.
>> - If someone needs Sylpheed, has internet access, then can install it
>> after; same with Pidgin and Transmission.
>> - Abiword can be a good selection; Gnumeric is not too esential as the
>> word processor is.
>> - How many partition managers are needed? GParted + gnomedisks ?
>> - How many package managers are needed? Synaptic + softwarecenter ?
>> - How many audio players are needed? Audacious + gnomemplayer ?
>> - Why there are 73MiB (compressed) dedicated to fonts-noto-cjk ? And
>> 8MiB to fonts-nanum ?
>> - 14MiB (compressed) dedicated to software-center metadata
>> (app-install-data) ?
>> - 9MiB for linux-headers ? Need to recompile kernel/modules offline?
>> - About gnome-icon-theme (9MiB), I believe that it should be split in
>> gnome-icon-theme-minimal and gnome-icon-theme-full; then select only the
>> minimal for ISO media.
>>
>>
>> (*) Live sessions are essential to check if the OS works, before
>> installing over a previous OS in the computer.
>>
>>
>>
>> El 11/08/16 a les 20:13, Ian Bruntlett ha escrit:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> On 11 August 2016 at 19:00, Aere Greenway <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com
>>> <mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
>>> live/install media, and not on any software package.
>>> If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a
>>> discard decision.
>>>
>>> What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space
>>> reasons,
>>> why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.
>>>
>>> I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for
>>> space reasons.
>>>
>>> The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual
>>> work with (in my opinion).
>>>
>>> If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a
>>> CD should be abandoned, and defeat admitted.
>>>
>>>
>>> It currently doesn't fit on a CD. To install one of the Ubuntus, go to
>>> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ and download the relevant iso. From
>>> what I see there, 32-bit Ubuntus can be installed by putting a 48M iso
>>> onto CD-R and choosing options - e.g. Ubuntu or Lubuntu packages - at
>>> install time. I've been using a NetBoot CD-R for some of my 32-bit
>>> installs.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

[Narcis Garcia]

I haven't much knowledge about captive portals;
What exactly do they need from a web browser?
Why other browsers than Mozilla's aren't useful for C.P. scenario?



El 12/08/16 a les 16:53, Brendan Perrine ha escrit:
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 09:33:47 +0200
> Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote:
> 
>> - Why Mozilla software is kept instead of CUPS?? What about Midori
> Unfortanetly not having firefox on the live session could make a pain of 
> trying to use the live session and not have internet acess on places with 
> captive portals. I would be shocked if they tested their portal with midori 
> and unlikely the people making it have ever heard of midori. I don't like 
> captive portals but unfortanetly they are a reality even at places my linux 
> users group meets. 
> 
> I am not sure many people on this list in places that don't need 
> fonts-noto-cjk show part of the full package descrption "  This package 
> contains Noto font families for Traditional Chinese,
>  Simplified Chinese, Japanese and Korean:" Which is well over a billion 
> people can use this. 
> 
> 
> Well  gnome-disks has the really nice feature of being able to check on the 
> hardware of the drive you install onto this can be quite frustrating if it is 
> actually bad and does not install or if say it does not boot you can check 
> hard disk seems fine in smart data from the live session.  I do think Gparted 
> is better at managing partitions. 
> 
> These are some reason why these packages make sense in the live session. 
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

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The lightest variant of Ubuntu, Lubuntu, should fit on a traditional
CD-ROM and should be installable without internet access. This is the
typical scenario (small computer, small internet) where someone chooses
Lubuntu.

I believe all basic variants of Lubuntu should fit on a 700MB CD-ROM:
i386-desktop*
powerpc-desktop*
i386-alternate
powerpc-alternate

- Why Mozilla software is kept instead of CUPS?? What about Midori
browser or others? Firefox is 45MiB compressed, Midori 11MiB, full CUPS
10MiB.
- If someone needs Sylpheed, has internet access, then can install it
after; same with Pidgin and Transmission.
- Abiword can be a good selection; Gnumeric is not too esential as the
word processor is.
- How many partition managers are needed? GParted + gnomedisks ?
- How many package managers are needed? Synaptic + softwarecenter ?
- How many audio players are needed? Audacious + gnomemplayer ?
- Why there are 73MiB (compressed) dedicated to fonts-noto-cjk ? And
8MiB to fonts-nanum ?
- 14MiB (compressed) dedicated to software-center metadata
(app-install-data) ?
- 9MiB for linux-headers ? Need to recompile kernel/modules offline?
- About gnome-icon-theme (9MiB), I believe that it should be split in
gnome-icon-theme-minimal and gnome-icon-theme-full; then select only the
minimal for ISO media.


(*) Live sessions are essential to check if the OS works, before
installing over a previous OS in the computer.



El 11/08/16 a les 20:13, Ian Bruntlett ha escrit:
> Hi there,
> 
> On 11 August 2016 at 19:00, Aere Greenway <a...@dvorak-keyboards.com
> <mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote:
> 
> On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> 
> I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
> live/install media, and not on any software package.
> If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a
> discard decision.
> 
> What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space
> reasons,
> why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.
> 
> I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for
> space reasons.
> 
> The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual
> work with (in my opinion).
> 
> If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a
> CD should be abandoned, and defeat admitted.
> 
> 
> It currently doesn't fit on a CD. To install one of the Ubuntus, go to
> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ and download the relevant iso. From
> what I see there, 32-bit Ubuntus can be installed by putting a 48M iso
> onto CD-R and choosing options - e.g. Ubuntu or Lubuntu packages - at
> install time. I've been using a NetBoot CD-R for some of my 32-bit
> installs.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Ian
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

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I believe that the problem is on software selection to build
live/install media, and not on any software package.
If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision.

What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons,
why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB.


El 11/08/16 a les 19:08, Aere Greenway ha escrit:
> On 08/11/2016 08:06 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> My checking results with Live media:
>> lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.isoCUPS working
>> lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present
>> lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present
>>
>> And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M
>> CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso
>>
>>
>> El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
>>> Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
>>> 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
>>> sudo apt-get install cups
>>> which I've never had to do before.
>>>
>>> After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to
>>> detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in
>>> system-config-printer was greyed out.
>>>
>>> I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>>
>>>
> You are absolutely right.
> 
> I checked two test systems that were clean-installs of 16.04 (rather
> than upgrades from 15.10 or 14.04), and found that the ability to add
> printers was grayed-out (not available) on those systems.  That ability
> was still there on a xubuntu partition on one of the same machines.
> 
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention.  A bug-report needs to be
> created for this (in my opinion).
> 
> I will specify that the bug affects me too, if I am made aware of the
> actual bug report.
> 
> I would probably file the bug report (in a terminal) using the following
> command:
> 
> ubuntu-bug ubiquity
> 
> I'm not sure if cups is the right package, or if the live system
> installer ubiquity is the best package to name.
> 
> I would just do the bug report myself, but I'm not on one of those
> machines (having the problem) now, and they're very slow machines.
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Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?

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My checking results with Live media:
lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso  CUPS working
lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso  No CUPS present
lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present

And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M
CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso


El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit:
> Hi.  I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu
> 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS.  I had to:
> sudo apt-get install cups
> which I've never had to do before.
> 
> After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to
> detect my epson printer.  Otherwise the "+ Add" button in
> system-config-printer was greyed out.
> 
> I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS.
> 
> Ciao
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lu 16.04.1 Live Does not load into desktop in VBOX

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Did you try to change graphics card in the virtual machine?


El 10/08/16 a les 09:56, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> When loading 16.04.1 32 desktop in VirtualBox it prompts for user and
> password (in GUI)
> 
> then when trying again it displays in wrong resolution.
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/cEjNMb9.png
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 16.04.1 32 Live VBOX

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I use Qemu and Matromu for machines virtualisation, and both Lubuntu
16.04 and 16.04.1 Live ISOs run perfectly with any graphic option:
-vga qxl
-vga std
-vga cirrus


El 10/08/16 a les 11:10, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> Vbox appears to force 640x480 when loading the GUI
> 
> Though i cant find an option to change this in VBOX
> 
> The Live environment uses a wrong resolution, but the installer appears
> to work fine, (installing 16.04.1 32 in a VBOX right now)
> 
> The installer runs in 800x600 resolution on VBOX
> 
> 
> I also has something similair when trying Debian live CD in VBOX the
> other day.  Not sure how much bugs there are in VBOX...
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Re: [lubuntu-users] lubuntu 16.04.1 Live CD

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Neill, please fix the problem and tell the solution through this mailing
list.


El 09/08/16 a les 00:01, Neill Rutherford gmail ha escrit:
> I'll try to get my point over ONE MORE TIME My computers work unless i
> try to run lubuntu 16.04.1 LIve CD.
> 
> Xubuntu 16.04 works Lubuntu 14.04 works. Please concentrate on ONLY the
> Lubuntu live CD 16.04.1
> 
> 
> I thank you but it sounds like there will not be a corrected LIVE CD
> produced for some time,  may be never
> 
> 
> THIS IS A BAD ADVERT FOR LUBUNTU
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/08/16 12:51, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>> Hi Neil.
>>
>> I haven't had Lubuntu fail to install. I tend not to use it as a live
>> CD as the computers I work on are rather old and not really suited for
>> that task.
>>
>> I refurbish old PCs on behalf of a mental health charity, Contact, and
>> they are given to Contact's members, their carers or families.
>>
>> What kind of processor is being used? What make and model of graphics
>> card? How much memory is available to Lubuntu?
>>
>> It might be worthwhile running memtest86+ to verify that the system's
>> RAM is OK.
>>
>> BW,
>>
>>
>> Ian
>>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] [Bug 1608306] Re: Confusing for users with many websites

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I think lubuntu.org is the best domain name+extension to set as official
web home. I see nonsense to create others as .me
If the problem is the content maintainment, the solution is to fix the
content maintainment and/or content manager team.

lubuntu.me only has a future if .prg and .net are both closed.


El 05/08/16 a les 17:27, Walter Lapchynski ha escrit:
> @Mario, as Michael Hall, a member of the Ubuntu Community Council said,
> bug comments are not the place for arguments. Let's keep the discussion
> on topic.
> 
> The problem is that users are confused about the two websites.
> 
> lubuntu.me came into existence due to a lack of control at lubuntu.net,
> which was constantly out of date. Even though it links to many resources
> on the wiki, it provides download links separate from that. Without
> being able to keep those up to date, that is, among other things,
> problematic. Though lubuntu.me solves this problem, the existence of
> both websites creates a new one: a clash of information and a confusion
> for users.
> 
> The solution is very simple. What we need is one website, and one which
> is ultimately decentralized. With lubuntu.me being hosted by Canonical
> (in process) and being registered by Canonical (also coming soon), it
> not only appears official, but then it is within the control of the
> Ubuntu Community since the resources Canonical provides (IS Team,
> Community Council) serve that community.
> 
> Right now, lubuntu.net is neither official nor within community control.
> However, Lubuntu is certainly an official flavor of Ubuntu[1][2][3][4]
> and subsequently "owned" by the Ubuntu Community, rather than being the
> project of any one particular person. This is why the IS Team and the
> Community Council were contacted and provided the change to the
> ownership of the Lubuntu Team. After all, this is more decentralized.
> 
> [1]: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
> [2]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFlavors
> [3]: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208
> [4]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html 
> (read the whole thread)
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Re: [lubuntu-users] using live cd to flash a bios

[Narcis Garcia]

flashrom utility must be safe on any of the supported hardware.
https://www.flashrom.org/Supported_hardware


El 03/08/16 a les 17:21, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> i just found flashrom in the repo
> https://www.flashrom.org/Flashrom
> 
> I'm not yet sure if this is safe, but it looks like this could be a very
> interesting tool.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-08-03 16:32, Aere Greenway wrote:
>> On 08/03/2016 05:18 AM, scrooya...@riseup.net wrote:
>>> Has anyone used a livecd to flash a bios?
>>>
>>> If yes what application did you use?
>>
>> I have been  using USB drives instead of DVDs for the live system, in
>> almost all cases.
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Can live USB version number be included at boot?

[Narcis Garcia]

Change menu texts at isolinux/*.cfg files.


El 01/08/16 a les 06:22, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> From a endusers perspective it would be nice if a full version could be
> included
> 
> I now have several sticks
> 
> 16.04.0 32, 64 bit
> 16.04.1 32 bit and pae
> 
> But when they boot they all look the same.
> 
> It can save many people a lot of time if this is displayed BEFORE
> loading into the live environment.
> 
> I put stickers on them, and still it is a hassle.
> 
> Now i'm sure it also be a hassle to add such a change, but it would
> improve the user experience.
> 
> Also when having multiboot where it is not possible to read from a
> sticker what is currently loaded. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] keyboard layout keeps changing when switching between aplications (undesired)

[Narcis Garcia]

This happened time ago with Ubuntu-Gnome (I saw in 70% of installations).
I created a dedicated script to automatically restore desired keyboard
layout. I attach it. It must be started with desktop.

This script is written for Gnome, but it can inspire you to create an
LXDE variant.



El 31/07/16 a les 23:58, Felipe M. Vieira ha escrit:
> On Tue, July 26, 2016 at 22:25, Aere Greenway wrote:
>> On 07/26/2016 08:44 PM, Felipe M. Vieira wrote:
>>> Maybe it could indicate if anything changes despite the fact that I have 
>>> only
>>> one keyboard layout enabled.
>>
>> If you 'hover' the mouse-pointer over the keyboard layout applet, a
>> tool-tip appears, reporting the current keyboard layout.
>>
>> -- 
>> Sincerely,
>> Aere
> 
> Dear mailing list and Aere,
> 
> the problem persists. Sometimes when I switch applications the keyboard
> configuration changes. I only have one keyboard layout installed.
> 
> Using IBUS Preferences and disabling the keyboard shortcut to change layouts
> (despite I only have one) makes no difference. Enabling the keyboard layout
> handler on my taskbar has no effect neither.
> 
> Any other thoughts?
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [lubuntu-users] Is it possible to 'multi boot' ISO's with MKUSB?

[Narcis Garcia]

I walk with 10~20 ISO files in a single USB memory pendrive to perform
lots of installations and hardware tests with different GNU/Linux
distribution.

Grub has been my best option, but it's very tricky to properly configure
grub.cfg for each different OS.


El 30/07/16 a les 23:47, Nio Wiklund ha escrit:
> Hi scrooyahoo,
> 
> [replying inline]
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> Den 2016-07-30 kl. 22:58, skrev scrooya...@riseup.net:
>> I'm looking into MKUSB and OBI.
>>
>> I see OBI can pick tar-balls stored on a stick. But is it also possible
>> to work with multiple ISO's?
> 
> The OBI does not work with iso files. But there are other tools, that
> can make multiboot USB drives, for example according to this link:
> 
> 'One pendrive for all PC (Intel/AMD) computers - single-boot dual-boot
> multi-boot'
> 
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259682
> 
> It works for Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros, but you have to fix the
> menuentries in grub.cfg for the other linux distros.
> 
> There are also multiboot-usb, multisystem and YUMI
> 
>> Would be nice to have 1 stick that can load:
>> 32 bit
>> 64 bit
>> pae
>> and eventually also the PPC
> 
> It is possible except PPC, because it has a different architecture, and
> needs different machine code.
> 
>> And also to make a stick with all 32 or 64 bit *buntu's side by side.
> 
> You can make such a pendrive according to the link above or get one.
> 
> Some people like that, but I think it is better to consider pendrives as
> temporary devices.
> 
> I store iso files in my main computer's 'data' partition, and flash one
> of them to a pendrive, when I want to use it. If you want to bring many
> iso files in the pocket, you can have a second pendrive with iso files.
> It is a good idea to have fast USB 3 pendrives. They are faster in USB 2
> ports too, because the flash memory hardware is often limiting the data
> transfer speed. See this link:
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Prerequisites
> 
> I use mkusb (to wrap a safety belt around dd alias 'disk destroyer'),
> most of the time making simple live-only pendrives that are cloned from
> the iso files. Most iso files today are 'hybrid' iso files, which means
> that they work when cloned, so it is a very simple process.
> 
> It is a lot of work to keep a multiboot pendrive up to date, it can
> easily lag behind. It is somewhat complicated to keep the boot script
> (grub.cfg or a corresponding file for other bootloaders) up to date and
> working if you have several different distros.
> 
> There is also Ubuntu AIO at
> 
> http://linuxaio.net/
> 
>> Specially now that 8GB is about the smallest stick size thats still
>> available in stores.
>>
>> This would it make it less of a hassle to try a few distros.
>>
>> I now have 4 Sticks in use for Lubuntu 16.04 64, 32, and alternate 64
>> and 32bit
>> that puts about 28GB doing nothing.
>>
>> I have tried 2 multiboot options i could find but for some reason only
>> one of those partially works.
>>
>> OBI looks like a good solution, but most distro's sit in a ISO.
> 
> Please try and find out which way you want to manage your iso files and
> boot drives :-)
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS has been released

[Narcis Garcia]

lubuntu.net and lubuntu.org seem owned by Mario Behling (mb AT
mariobehling.de).
Is there some disagreement between he and Ubuntu communities that caused
the registration of lubuntu.me by Rafael Laguna?


El 28/07/16 a les 10:15, Simon Quigley ha escrit:
> The problem is, that isn't our site anymore, and the owner keeps
> updating it.
> 
> Sorry.
> 

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Re: [lubuntu-users] PPC to download

[Narcis Garcia]

I only meant website's home page.


El 28/07/16 a les 09:28, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
> At lubuntu.me there should be a third link for powerpc downloads too.
> It's very difficult to promote GNU/Linux for this architecture (and
> tests) if it's "hidden".
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[lubuntu-users] PPC to download

[Narcis Garcia]

At lubuntu.me there should be a third link for powerpc downloads too.
It's very difficult to promote GNU/Linux for this architecture (and
tests) if it's "hidden".

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 16.04.1 LTS has been released!

[Narcis Garcia]

Oh good, lubuntu.me seems better because lubuntu.net contains 3 spyware
elements (information from Ghostery)


El 28/07/16 a les 03:04, Simon Quigley ha escrit:
> Greetings,
> 
> lubuntu.me is our official website, NOT lubuntu.net.
> 
> Updated on the wiki page, thanks! :)
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Yakkety Yak Alpha 2 Call for Testing

[Narcis Garcia]

It has no sense that Lubuntu-aternate ISO (and maybe desktop too)
exceeds 700MB.

Debian-Live-LXDE exceeds the normal CD size too.


El 28/07/16 a les 00:58, Simon Quigley ha escrit:
> Greetings,
> 
> Looking at the tests again, it would be nice to finish up one last
> *mandatory* Lubuntu Alternate i386 test and the optional ones, but I'd
> like to give a HUGE thanks to Nio and Brendan for completing these tests
> before I even had to say anything. I seriously don't know if the Lubuntu
> team would release anything without these guys. :)
> 
> Also, if anybody with a PPC machine would like to test to make sure it
> works, even though we aren't releasing an image, that would be great. :)
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Bug Day Ubuntu On Air Session at 19:00 UTC

[Narcis Garcia]

I understand scrooyahoo's arguments and agree with the reasons, but is
being very rude when judging others' choices.

I insist to scrooyahoo: there are other distros & communities apart of
Ubuntus/Canonicals and, most of people who disagrees with
*buntu/Canonical policies, migrate to that other GNU/Linux distributions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DistroWatch



El 26/07/16 a les 23:05, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> i'm not insisting on anonimity, but being treated as a criminal when you
> have done nothing wrong that is invading my privacy.
> 
> also i do see it from your point of view and i can agree to some extend.
> But since privacy is not respected by default, Then people who care
> about privacy feel forced to use something like TOR by default to
> get/TAKE privacy. (how do you say this in english?)
> 
> I joined the mailing list with my regular yahoo email address with my
> normal name but I used the webmail while using tor.
> thats where it started, and now i also got bugged with captchas and
> that's where i had enough of it. Emotions got the better of me? Or maybe
> ethics?
> 
> anyhow, mu yahoo mail ended up in spam, thats why i went for a new mail
> account (thisone, because i was very annoyed at yahoo for wasting my time)
> 
> If yahoo had not done this then i would most likely be still using this
> list form my other account.
> 
> So who is to blame?  Yahoo i guess?
> 
> I hope that i didn't make enemies here by raising some ethical issues i
> just has a few technical questions and if i can help others then i'm
> also prepared to help.
> 
> So you consider TOR to be of questionable legality?
> But how legal is A capthcha system then? That sends a certain amount of
> packets and probes several PC related details to snoop out a users
> identity. Is it concidered to be legal to do that?  When i see someone
> walk on the street and grab the persons wallet and ID to randomly probe
> a persons identity then I GET ARRESTED.
> 
> But holy Google may do so all over the planet??
> 
> I said i would stop this discussion, any followups i will answer, but
> off-list.
> 
> 
> I got a bit carried away here. Though i'm sure my argumenst are strong
> enough in privacy vs anonimity. I do not need anonimity, but privacy
> should be a default service, and if that's not the case then people
> resort to anonimity. Don't blame them, it's not their fault, it's for
> them the only option left to get privacy. I don't know ANY alternative
> that gives me real privacy.
> 
> I do not want to offend anyone and don't think my nettiquette are bad,
> some phrases may eventually be bad english but thats most likely because
> im not a native english speaker and learned my english from american
> action movies.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-07-26 21:51, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On 26 July 2016 at 17:50,   wrote:
>>> its backwards annoing and disrespects my privacy.
>>
>>
>> As a counter-argument, I'd argue that you are disrespecting us & the
>> other members of the (L)Ubuntu community by insisting on anonymity.
>>
>> Anonymity is not privacy, nor is privacy equivalent to anonymity.
>>
>> You join this mailing list and apparently expect to receive help and
>> support and you do not even have the manners to give your name.
>>
>> As a parallel: if I was hosting a party, and someone came with a mask
>> on and refused to give their name, I would not welcome them. I'd throw
>> them out for their extreme rudeness.
>>
>> A mailing list is no different.
>>
>> As a general rule, whereas I frequent many mailing lists and a few
>> newsgroups, I generally will not help people using visibly false
>> names. I consider it poor manners.
>>
>> You are complaining about a service of questionable legality being
>> blocked by an external service that is nothing to do with Ubuntu. This
>> is the wrong place to complain about it, we are the wrong people, and
>> I suggest you consider how your netiquette compares to basic
>> real-world manners and civility.
>>
>> -- 
>> Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile
>> Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
>> MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
>> Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR)
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Bug Day Ubuntu On Air Session at 19:00 UTC

[Narcis Garcia]

scrooyahoo, you are wrong in a detail:
Google/captcha is not selecting *buntu projects.
Are *buntu projects that choose Google/captcha to be used with people.

A GNU/Linux distribution is this: a group of choices about software and
collective.


El 26/07/16 a les 17:50, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> Hi Narcis,
> 
> better to exaggerate a bit then to ignore it?
> 
> the fact is that it's WAY out of proportion
> 
> 
> I as a human try to get a little bit of privacy, and the whole US based
> IT industry does everything in its power to figure out who i am.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And yeah, i do agree with you, Lubuntu is the nicest version of *buntu.
> But this stuf is happening to me here... so i complain about it here,,,
> 
> 
> I'm just a bit pissed about it, Google invaded *buntu with captchas?? 
> those captchas come from google or not??
> 
> 
> So i understand that you find that i may overreact a bit, but if *buntu
> in general had done some thinking about this then there whould have been
> no need for me to overreact. So that ball is still on *buntu's site of
> the field.  pissed people tend to overreact a bit...
> 
> And hey, i first got a NEW mail account to be able to even communicate
> in here!
> 
> Then there is a Bug day that i really like, and i want to take part.
> (but with some basic privacy)
> 
> And i just get pushed AWAY with captcha crap.
> 
> THATS A BUG, so i hope someone has a look at it and manages to fix it. :-)
> 
> I'm not against Lubuntu in any way or form, i LIKE Lubuntu, but this
> captcha shit hinders me to help this project, it's difficult enough to
> deal with the tech stuff sometimes, and this CRAPCHA crap on top of it
> is REALLY annoying.
> 
> I'll try to end this discussion now and focus on Lubuntu. I hope that at
> least the captchas go away, its backwards annoing and disrespects my
> privacy.
> 
> 
> Again i really appreciate what the Lubuntu team has accomplished.  And i
> hope i can help to catch bugs.  ..but then i get bullied with catcha's...
> 
> That's all
>   :-)
> 
> So goolge manages to obstruct Lubuntu's progress with captchas,  a very
> strategic move to demote the competition and give android and chrome yet
> another advantage?  Does that make sense?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-07-26 11:02, Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> scrooyahoo or whoever are you;
>> You are exaggerating with subject about jews and World War II.
>>
>> *buntu OS distros are GNU/Linux flavours created with Canonical
>> policies, a company (not community) with *some* policies focused on FOSS
>> and community relationship.
>>
>> This is not a community-driven OS distribution, but there is enough
>> flexibility to be a decent GNU/Linux distro.
>> People who focuses all efforts to personal+community freedom and privacy
>> choose other distributions, and in that other collectives you will find
>> more people nearer to your minding.
>>
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Bug Day Ubuntu On Air Session at 19:00 UTC

[Narcis Garcia]

scrooyahoo or whoever are you;
You are exaggerating with subject about jews and World War II.

*buntu OS distros are GNU/Linux flavours created with Canonical
policies, a company (not community) with *some* policies focused on FOSS
and community relationship.

This is not a community-driven OS distribution, but there is enough
flexibility to be a decent GNU/Linux distro.
People who focuses all efforts to personal+community freedom and privacy
choose other distributions, and in that other collectives you will find
more people nearer to your minding.



El 26/07/16 a les 09:52, scrooya...@riseup.net ha escrit:
> :-) what is the address, i'll send a handwritten message (i do not
> *need* to use the internet?)
> 
> I do understand, that it's not really in canonicals hands, but it really
> pisses me off that every tiny attempt i do to get a little bit of
> privacy is undermined by whole automated systems that keep kicking me
> around until they still have my details...
> 
> It's just BRUTAL, and Canonical / *buntu / freenode should not look away
> from this shit.
> 
> Before WWII the people in germany looked away / did nothing / followed
> orders, and we all know how that played out right?
> 
> So i'm not going to igore this and sat *Sorry*  not my depertment.
> 
> I'm HUMAN and privacy IS my department, Without privacy I cannot be
> "UBUNTU"
> 
> Afterall Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning ‘humanity to others’.
> 
> So if this is not the case then Canonical should not use the word.
> 
> And it sucks that I feel the need to defend myself here. (of all places)
> 
> Has it really come THIS FAR?
> 
> It's just SAD First the yahoo/gmail spam issue and now this.
> 
> What's next? will the US govrnment force me to wear a badge that says
> PRIVACY EXTREMIST? O wait reCAPTCHA IS that badge!
> 
> Yahoo tags me, Google tags me, CAPCHA tags me, Paypal, Ebay, Amazon and
> they ALL SHARE the tags trough DMARC.ORG.
> 
> Lets see how long it takes until Ubuntu One will join the DMARC cartel.
> 
> 
> PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
> 
> PLEASE.  this is going WAY to far.
> 
> 
> I'm not willing to fight this fight, and especially not here. But i cant
> keep my mouth shut. Everywhere i go.
> CAPTCHA CATCHA CAPTCHA discrimination
> Spam discrimination
> ETC.
> 
> I now start to understand how Jews must have felt 75 years ago.
> 
> I'm pissed.
> 
> Nothing personal against you Simon, just large scale corporate sadness.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2016-07-26 09:04, Simon Quigley wrote:
>> That's where Lubuntu hosts it's IRC channels and we don't plan on
>> changing that any time soon. Sorry.
>>
>> If you want to avoid it, just send emails to the mailing list with
>> your results. You don't *need* to use IRC. :)
>>
>> -- 
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>> tsimo...@ubuntu.com
>> tsimonq2 on Freenode
> 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Bug Day Ubuntu On Air Session at 19:00 UTC

[Narcis Garcia]

Lubuntu project should not submit to this Freenode policy.


El 26/07/16 a les 08:59, Simon Quigley ha escrit:
> This is not an issue with Canonical, Ubuntu, or any Linux distribution for 
> that matter. freenode has a policy against using Tor.
> 
> Sorry.
> 

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Re: [lubuntu-users] State of PPC

[Narcis Garcia]

The .1 release is the most important, because it's a stabilization of
LTS ISO release.
Next point releases introduce new kernels & GUI and this can introduce
new bugs to discover.


El 22/07/16 a les 22:59, Walter Lapchynski ha escrit:
> As you can see from the page on [PPC][1], the architecture has only
> community support from Ubuntu. Lubuntu has been trying as much as we can
> to support this, but the fact of the matter is that we have no
> developers on our team that can actually help with PPC bugs. 
> 
> The best you can hope for is that kernel developers (mostly, the issue
> is with drivers) might have some interest in fixing bugs. However, with
> only community support, that's unlikely. Most of the focus on PPC has
> been on the server side of things, where graphics just don't come into play.
> 
> My estimation of things is that Lubuntu on PPC mostly works, given a few
> caveats. All we need to do to release PPC is for all of the test cases
> to be completed successfully (regardless of whether or not there are
> bugs) and that marked on the QA tracker for the final testing of each
> milestone. If we don't have that done, Canonical will not let us release it.
> 
> PPC was what brought me originally to Lubuntu, so there's a special
> place for it in my heart. Having an OS make that old hardware work was
> very refreshing and introduced me to the real power and mission of Lubuntu.
> 
> However, I haven't ran PPC in a long, long time. That being said, I'm
> not of much help. We rely on the community of users to help out. When I
> don't see testing happening in the community, it makes me think that I'm
> not the only one that's neglected their PPC machines.
> 
> The reality of the situation is that there has been much talk throughout
> the Ubuntu community over the past few years about getting rid of i386.
> If that happens, I can't imagine that Canonical keeping PPC. With that
> in mind, I think the end of PPC Lubuntu is coming regardless of what our
> feelings are.
> 
> Furthermore, the Lubuntu Team is a small one and we often lack the
> capacity to do the things that we need to do. PPC is just stretching us
> even thinner, and into an area few of us really have the experience,
> knowledge, resources, or time to deal with.
> 
> That said, I'm inclined to suggest we start the process of removing PPC.
> We managed to release an LTS, which is the only version we even bother
> with PPC on. All we would need to do is ensure that all the point
> releases for Trusty and Xenial get published. That would put us out
> until about August 2018.
> 
> I think ultimately this will be better for the team. Most importantly,
> though, I think it will be better for the PPC users that I fear we can't
> really support and who we often leave with a frustrated experience.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> [1]: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC 
> -- 
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> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
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Re: [lubuntu-users] 16.04.1 for powerpc

[Narcis Garcia]

Oh I'm sorry;
I wasn't subscribed to Lubuntu mailing lists and I don't follow the
project enough to participate in those tasks.

Yes, this answers my question.


On 22/07/16 20:39, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> If you look at the release announcement, it states:
> 
>> This release does NOT include PowerPC, although users of the PowerPC 
>> platform can still receive updates.
> 
> This is because we received *zero* testing for PowerPC in 16.04.1. If
> you want these images in the future, make sure they are tested[1]. :)
> 
> I hope this answers your question!
> 
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Milestone_releases
> 

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[lubuntu-users] 16.04.1 for powerpc

[Narcis Garcia]

Hello, I don't see any image/torrent published for Lubuntu 16.04.1 in
powerpc architecture. Only the original 16.04;

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/release/


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