Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-09 Thread Bennett Helm

On May 8, 2006, at 5:38 PM, Maria Gouskova wrote:

I cannot say that I understand what LyX does with the preferences  
file exactly, because the installer appears to copy the preferences  
on its own during the installation process. But it isn't clear  
which preferences file it copies. After poking around my hard  
drive, I realized that I now have at least *three* LyX preferences  
files: one in Library/Application Support/LyX (original 1.3.7  
file), one in /Library/Application Support/LyX-1.4 (contents  
identical to the first one, from what I can see), and in  
Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources (different contents). The  
directory LyX-1.4 was installed by LyX 1.4.1, and the directory LyX  
(inside Lib/App Support) is leftover from LyX 1.3.7, apparently  
unchanged by the upgrade.


Everything righted itself after I deleted the second file, Library/ 
Application Support/LyX-1.4.


I am attaching all three files for your perusal.

Maria





Thanks.

On the Mac, preference files within LyX.app are the default  
preferences; when you first change any preference setting, LyX  
creates a new preferences file in the User's directory using the  
defaults as a template. LyX-1.3.5+ used ~/Library/Application Support/ 
LyX for the User's directory; LyX-1.4.x uses ~/Library/Application  
Support/LyX-1.4 for the User's directory. (The change in location  
here is designed so that users can continue to use 1.3.x and 1.4.x  
simultaneously, if they so desire. Various settings or files in the  
User's directory are incompatible between the two versions.) The  
1.4.x installer copies your 1.3.x directory to the new location and  
modifies some settings to reflect that change. However, the installer  
should not touch format/converter settings, and so the difficulty  
you've had in upgrading should not happen.


Nonetheless, something went wrong. Unfortunately, the preferences  
files you sent don't reveal to me what the problem was. And I'm out  
of ideas for what else might have caused the problem.


Bennett


Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Maria Gouskova
I cannot say that I understand what LyX does with the preferences  
file exactly, because the installer appears to copy the preferences  
on its own during the installation process. But it isn't clear which  
preferences file it copies. After poking around my hard drive, I  
realized that I now have at least *three* LyX preferences files: one  
in Library/Application Support/LyX (original 1.3.7 file), one in / 
Library/Application Support/LyX-1.4 (contents identical to the first  
one, from what I can see), and in Applications/LyX.app/Contents/ 
Resources (different contents). The directory LyX-1.4 was installed  
by LyX 1.4.1, and the directory LyX (inside Lib/App Support) is  
leftover from LyX 1.3.7, apparently unchanged by the upgrade.


Everything righted itself after I deleted the second file, Library/ 
Application Support/LyX-1.4.


I am attaching all three files for your perusal.

Maria


preferences_1_4_1
Description: Binary data


preferences_inside_lyx
Description: Binary data


preferences1_3_7
Description: Binary data



On May 8, 2006, at 11:57 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:


Maria Gouskova wrote:
Well, I am no pro at this, but it appears that ImageMagick was in  
fact installed on my machine, because deleting the preferences  
file (as per Bennett Helm's suggestion) fixed the problem. That  
was all I had to do.
My guess is that the installer script somehow messed up in my case  
when it converted my 1.3.7 preferences/settings to 1.4.1. I had a  
couple of problems after conversion, including Instant Preview and  
this. My advice to anyone with the same setup (Mac OS 10.4.6, LyX  
1.3 to 1.4 upgrade) is to reconfigure LyX and to delete the  
preferences file and reset preferences manually after upgrading.  
It won't hurt and it might fix a few things.

Maria




http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MacInstall

* "If you had a ~/.lyx/preferences file from a previous installation
of another version of LyX, either delete it or make sure the entries
for viewers do not override the LyX/Mac defaults."

SH: For Windows one of the few advantages is that LyX1.3.7 and
LyX1.4.1 can co-exist without any problem that I know of. I'm
not sure how dual installations are worked out for Mac or Linux.
I suppose the old Pref file isn't deleted by default because there
may not be a backup file of modifications, key bindings or whatever.
I used to get my 137 tex2lyx improvement to relyx erased all the time.

Have a good day,
Stephen




Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Stephen Harris

Maria Gouskova wrote:
Well, I am no pro at this, but it appears that ImageMagick was in fact 
installed on my machine, because deleting the preferences file (as per 
Bennett Helm's suggestion) fixed the problem. That was all I had to do.


My guess is that the installer script somehow messed up in my case when 
it converted my 1.3.7 preferences/settings to 1.4.1. I had a couple of 
problems after conversion, including Instant Preview and this. My advice 
to anyone with the same setup (Mac OS 10.4.6, LyX 1.3 to 1.4 upgrade) is 
to reconfigure LyX and to delete the preferences file and reset 
preferences manually after upgrading. It won't hurt and it might fix a 
few things.


Maria





http://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/MacInstall

* "If you had a ~/.lyx/preferences file from a previous installation
of another version of LyX, either delete it or make sure the entries
for viewers do not override the LyX/Mac defaults."

SH: For Windows one of the few advantages is that LyX1.3.7 and
LyX1.4.1 can co-exist without any problem that I know of. I'm
not sure how dual installations are worked out for Mac or Linux.
I suppose the old Pref file isn't deleted by default because there
may not be a backup file of modifications, key bindings or whatever.
I used to get my 137 tex2lyx improvement to relyx erased all the time.

Have a good day,
Stephen


Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Bennett Helm


On May 8, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Maria Gouskova wrote:

Well, I am no pro at this, but it appears that ImageMagick was in  
fact installed on my machine, because deleting the preferences file  
(as per Bennett Helm's suggestion) fixed the problem. That was all  
I had to do.


My guess is that the installer script somehow messed up in my case  
when it converted my 1.3.7 preferences/settings to 1.4.1. I had a  
couple of problems after conversion, including Instant Preview and  
this. My advice to anyone with the same setup (Mac OS 10.4.6, LyX  
1.3 to 1.4 upgrade) is to reconfigure LyX and to delete the  
preferences file and reset preferences manually after upgrading. It  
won't hurt and it might fix a few things.


Maria


Well, I'd hope that's not the correct advice! User preferences should  
be respected on upgrading to a new version. If the installer somehow  
corrupted the preferences file, that should be fixed.


Is it possible for you to send me copies of your old and new  
preferences files so that I can try to determine what went wrong?


Thanks.

Bennett


Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Maria Gouskova
Well, I am no pro at this, but it appears that ImageMagick was in  
fact installed on my machine, because deleting the preferences file  
(as per Bennett Helm's suggestion) fixed the problem. That was all I  
had to do.


My guess is that the installer script somehow messed up in my case  
when it converted my 1.3.7 preferences/settings to 1.4.1. I had a  
couple of problems after conversion, including Instant Preview and  
this. My advice to anyone with the same setup (Mac OS 10.4.6, LyX 1.3  
to 1.4 upgrade) is to reconfigure LyX and to delete the preferences  
file and reset preferences manually after upgrading. It won't hurt  
and it might fix a few things.


Maria

On May 8, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Stephen Harris wrote:


Maria Gouskova wrote:
I have the same exact problem, also on Mac OS 10.4.6--upgrading  
from 1.3x to 1.4 broke image support. I used JPEG images, and LyX  
says it cannot find a converter.

Reconfiguring LyX didn't fix it.
What is the converter for JPEG images, just so I can manually  
define it in Preferences>Converters? And should LyX maybe define  
one by default, since it used to work in LyX 1.3.7? Thanks,

Maria


http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnMac Prerequisites
2. Use the fink package management system to install tetex,
ghostscript, and imagemagick.

Imagemagick is the standard program used on all platforms for
image conversion. The installer is supposed to check for the
installation of Imagemagick and automatically use it, if found.
pdflatex works on .png, jpeg, pdf, & gif files but an eps format
needs to be converted in order for pdflatex to work. If you
don't have (free) Imagemagick installed, install it and then
reconfigure LyX. My solution only covers this possibility.

But sometimes the LyX installer doesn't find the proper (Paths)
converters and viewers even though they are on the hard drive.
I think the troubleshooting order should start with ImageMagick.

Regards,
Stephen









Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Maria Gouskova
If you move aside your preferences file (~/Library/Application  
Support/LyX-1.4/preferences) and restart LyX, do things work?


Yes!

Maria



Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Stephen Harris

Maria Gouskova wrote:
I have the same exact problem, also on Mac OS 10.4.6--upgrading from 
1.3x to 1.4 broke image support. I used JPEG images, and LyX says it 
cannot find a converter.


Reconfiguring LyX didn't fix it.

What is the converter for JPEG images, just so I can manually define it 
in Preferences>Converters? And should LyX maybe define one by default, 
since it used to work in LyX 1.3.7? Thanks,


Maria



http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnMac Prerequisites
2. Use the fink package management system to install tetex,
ghostscript, and imagemagick.

Imagemagick is the standard program used on all platforms for
image conversion. The installer is supposed to check for the
installation of Imagemagick and automatically use it, if found.
pdflatex works on .png, jpeg, pdf, & gif files but an eps format
needs to be converted in order for pdflatex to work. If you
don't have (free) Imagemagick installed, install it and then
reconfigure LyX. My solution only covers this possibility.

But sometimes the LyX installer doesn't find the proper (Paths)
converters and viewers even though they are on the hard drive.
I think the troubleshooting order should start with ImageMagick.

Regards,
Stephen







Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Bennett Helm

On May 8, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Maria Gouskova wrote:

I have the same exact problem, also on Mac OS 10.4.6--upgrading  
from 1.3x to 1.4 broke image support. I used JPEG images, and LyX  
says it cannot find a converter.


Reconfiguring LyX didn't fix it.

What is the converter for JPEG images, just so I can manually  
define it in Preferences>Converters? And should LyX maybe define  
one by default, since it used to work in LyX 1.3.7? Thanks,


Maria


There is a known problem with image conversion using dvipdfm, though  
the symptom is merely the absence of images in the final output. I  
take it that's not the problem here.


Using pdflatex and ps2pdf to generate output, I have no problems  
using .eps, .jpg, or .png on a stock installation of LyX-1.4.1. You  
must have ImageMagick installed to do the conversion, but LyX handles  
the settings for that automatically.


If you move aside your preferences file (~/Library/Application  
Support/LyX-1.4/preferences) and restart LyX, do things work?


Bennett


Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Maria Gouskova
I have the same exact problem, also on Mac OS 10.4.6--upgrading from  
1.3x to 1.4 broke image support. I used JPEG images, and LyX says it  
cannot find a converter.


Reconfiguring LyX didn't fix it.

What is the converter for JPEG images, just so I can manually define  
it in Preferences>Converters? And should LyX maybe define one by  
default, since it used to work in LyX 1.3.7? Thanks,


Maria

On May 8, 2006, at 3:30 AM, Jose' Matos wrote:


On Monday 08 May 2006 03:11, Angus Wallace wrote:

Any pointers appreciated!


  Could you run Reconfigure:

Tools->Reconfigure

  and then exit and restart lyx. Does the problem remains?


Cheers,
-Angus


--
José Abílio




Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-08 Thread Jose' Matos
On Monday 08 May 2006 03:11, Angus Wallace wrote:
> Any pointers appreciated!

  Could you run Reconfigure:

Tools->Reconfigure

  and then exit and restart lyx. Does the problem remains?

> Cheers,
> -Angus

-- 
José Abílio


Re: LyX png and eps

2006-05-07 Thread Stephen Harris

Angus Wallace wrote:



Howdy all,

Sorry to join the list with a question..

I've just upgraded LyX from 1.3.4 to 1.4.1. I ran the installer script, 
and all appeared well.


However, I seem to have lost support for my figures. I have a document 
with a mixture of eps and png figures, that rendered fine (pdflatex) 
under 1.3.4, but doesn't under 1.4.1 - it complains that it has 'No 
information for converting png format to eps. Define a convertor in the 
Preferences'.


I'm a little confused about this, because my understanding was that LyX 
has 'built-in' support for both of these formats, and that they don't 
need to be converted, as such..? Also, all my png figures preview fine 
within LyX (although the eps files don't, and never have).


I've had a bit of a look through the mail archives, and haven't found 
this problem, although there seem to be many similar problems. One mail 
mentioned a bug.. I'm not sure if that's relevant..


I'm running LyX 1.4.1 on MacOS 10.4.6. I can't remember off-hand how I 
installed TeX - I think it was via fink.


Any pointers appreciated!

Cheers,
-Angus



http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FiguresInLyX

pdflatex doesn't process eps images.
LyX can use a converter like epstopdf, ps2pdf or ImageMagick
for changing eps to pdf so that pdflatex can use it (pdf png)

In 1.4.1 the Preferences with file formats and converters
are now found under Tools.


LyX png and eps

2006-05-07 Thread Angus Wallace



Howdy all,

Sorry to join the list with a question..

I've just upgraded LyX from 1.3.4 to 1.4.1. I ran the installer  
script, and all appeared well.


However, I seem to have lost support for my figures. I have a  
document with a mixture of eps and png figures, that rendered fine  
(pdflatex) under 1.3.4, but doesn't under 1.4.1 - it complains that  
it has 'No information for converting png format to eps. Define a  
convertor in the Preferences'.


I'm a little confused about this, because my understanding was that  
LyX has 'built-in' support for both of these formats, and that they  
don't need to be converted, as such..? Also, all my png figures  
preview fine within LyX (although the eps files don't, and never have).


I've had a bit of a look through the mail archives, and haven't found  
this problem, although there seem to be many similar problems. One  
mail mentioned a bug.. I'm not sure if that's relevant..


I'm running LyX 1.4.1 on MacOS 10.4.6. I can't remember off-hand how  
I installed TeX - I think it was via fink.


Any pointers appreciated!

Cheers,
-Angus