Mike Arrigo's first 2 Mac podcasts

[peter greco]

Mike Arrigo has done some amazing podcasts using about using the 
Mac.  I'm just beginning and I've contacted Mike about the first 
2 he did, Mike no longer has them, can anyone let me know please 
how I may be able to access them, or have podcasts about key 
lay-out and very basic getting started with a Mac stuff?

Peter
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Re: Finding an unread email message

[Sarah k Alawami]

Lol. I have mine sorted by subject that way I can see which in the thread will 
be unread, but that's another rway to do this.

Good luck and be blessed.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Andy,
> 
> Interact with the Messages table, go to the Status column, press VO-Virtical 
> line which is shift on backslash, then press VO-Space and VO-Virtical line 
> again. Your messages will now be sorted by status and the unread messages 
> will be at the bottom of the table. You can set it to be sorted by whichever 
> column you choose in this way. If you do the same sequence of commands a 
> second time on the same column, it will be sorted in the other direction.
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> Cheers,
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Re: Finding an unread email message

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andy,

Interact with the Messages table, go to the Status column, press VO-Virtical 
line which is shift on backslash, then press VO-Space and VO-Virtical line 
again. Your messages will now be sorted by status and the unread messages will 
be at the bottom of the table. You can set it to be sorted by whichever column 
you choose in this way. If you do the same sequence of commands a second time 
on the same column, it will be sorted in the other direction.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Finding an unread email message

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hello. Go to the second column in the table of mail, then look for the unread 
image. You can scan quick through a column with vo down arrow.

Good luck.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Hi all -
> 
> I can use cmd u to see how many unread messages there are in my in box, but 
> how can I quickly move to an unread message, instead of going up and down the 
> list of subjects to find the unread ones? -
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Re: Sendspace Wizard Question

[Kristeen Hughes]

Thank you. That explains why shift control m does nothing.

Kristeen

On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

> Hit fn delete to get rid of them or select all and then control click as they 
> broke the vo shift m and choose delete, or hit f5 and c clear the finished 
> items. Either way will help.
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
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>> I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
>> they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
>> clear that out? I've looked, but not found.
>> 
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Finding an unread email message

[Andy Collins]

Hi all -

I can use cmd u to see how many unread messages there are in my in box, but how 
can I quickly move to an unread message, instead of going up and down the list 
of subjects to find the unread ones? -

Andy
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Re: how do I do the following in calander in ml

[Mark Furness]

Turning hints off in the v o settings will set all hints off, in what ever app 
I am using.
I only want Calendar to change.
By the way, it did not work.

Thank you for the suggestion.

Mark
On 2013-09-09, at 10:22 AM, "David Griffith"  wrote:

> You could go to Voiceover settings and verbosity and turn hints announcement
> off to see if that improves matters.
> 
> David Griffith
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> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
> Sent: 09 September 2013 14:41
> To: mac access
> Subject: how do I do the following in calander in ml
> 
> I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!
> 
> running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the
> next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
> Now ML,
> 1. subject is spoken.
> 2. a 10 second moment of silence.
> 3. Then v o says "you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,
> the help tag this event belongs to calendar personal"
> 4. Then v o says the time of the event.
> 
> My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the
> latest ML. 
> Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
> I don't believe that would make a difference.
> 
> In short, how do I  rearrange the above list of actions , putting step 4
> after step 1.
> Thank you for clarification in this perplexing situation.
> Mark
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

[Judy Pryor]

No Andy its nothing like that, I know CNDW closes a window.  It says 
authentication has no windows   and you can get no speech whatever you do it 
just pings.  Even if you shut the computer down it will come up with the same 
message.  My son got it back for me through the trackpad, and I managed to do 
it when it happened again by running my fingers round the trackpad.  Luckily it 
hasn't happened lately. Judy  
On 8 Sep 2013, at 22:06, Andy Collins  wrote:

> From your explanation, it sound like you have executed a cmd w to close the 
> window within the application, that's why it says the app has no windows, and 
> you will have to open the app again from the doc or wherever -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:38, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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>> this dialogue has happened to me, not at log in but when I have been on 
>> safari and maybe another Ap  and probably done something wrong.  Having 
>> panicked I ran my finger across the trackpad and somehow I got my window 
>> back.  Why does this happen and is there a correct way to get the correct 
>> screen back. Judy 
>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 18:37, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>> 
>>> No… You can't login if it says that because the text fields don't appear. 
>>> Phil, has she tried restarting?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 If I'm not mistaken, at that point she should type in her password and hit 
 enter.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer  
 wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
> screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable 
> to login to the system. Any ideas on what may be causing this problem? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

[Andy Collins]

Can't say for sure, but I'm wondering if when you log on, you have your 
computer set to open windows, and if so, if this is blocking the log on  window 
for Voice Over. If this is the case, as somebody suggested, you could try VO 
shift f2, to bring the window to the front, but whether this actually works in 
practice I don't know. Glad you've found some sort of a solution for now -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 21:42, Judy Pryor  wrote:

> No Andy its nothing like that, I know CNDW closes a window.  It says 
> authentication has no windows   and you can get no speech whatever you do it 
> just pings.  Even if you shut the computer down it will come up with the same 
> message.  My son got it back for me through the trackpad, and I managed to do 
> it when it happened again by running my fingers round the trackpad.  Luckily 
> it hasn't happened lately. Judy  
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 22:06, Andy Collins  wrote:
> 
>> From your explanation, it sound like you have executed a cmd w to close the 
>> window within the application, that's why it says the app has no windows, 
>> and you will have to open the app again from the doc or wherever -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:38, Judy Pryor  wrote:
>> 
>>> this dialogue has happened to me, not at log in but when I have been on 
>>> safari and maybe another Ap  and probably done something wrong.  Having 
>>> panicked I ran my finger across the trackpad and somehow I got my window 
>>> back.  Why does this happen and is there a correct way to get the correct 
>>> screen back. Judy 
>>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 18:37, Josh Gregory  wrote:
>>> 
 No… You can't login if it says that because the text fields don't appear. 
 Phil, has she tried restarting?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 8, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> If I'm not mistaken, at that point she should type in her password and 
> hit enter.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
>> screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable 
>> to login to the system. Any ideas on what may be causing this problem? 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

no I hoped that doing so on one device would trigger the removal on the others. 
 Seems not.
On 9 Sep 2013, at 16:51, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

> Did you delete them from you're other devices?
> 
> On 9/9/13, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
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>> I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!
>> 
>> I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I
>> own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still
>> showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?
>> 
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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Yup tried that.

D
On 9 Sep 2013, at 16:51, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

> Have you tried turning off book marks on your ios device then turning it back 
> on? I find that often that helps to get things back in order.
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:46, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!
>> 
>> I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I 
>> own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still 
>> showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

[Sarah Alawami]

Have you tried turning off book marks on your ios device then turning it back 
on? I find that often that helps to get things back in order.

> On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:46, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!
> 
> I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I 
> own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still 
> showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: VMware Fusion 6.0

[Gordon Smith]

 Hi Chris
 The difference is the serial number.  You are correct that the 
package itself is identical, but VMware has two distinctly 
separate download links on their website, 1 for the Proffessional 
edition and the other for the standard edition.  Yes, it's 
strange, unless some of the inclusions are not plesent.
 Keep in mind also that there are probably different paxages 
when you register.  I don't know for sure as yet, but that's my 
guess.

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Re: iCloud and bookmarks.

[Isaac Hebert]

Did you delete them from you're other devices?

On 9/9/13, Dónal Fitzpatrick  wrote:
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> I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!
>
> I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I
> own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still
> showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?
>
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>
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iCloud and bookmarks.

[Dónal Fitzpatrick]

Hi all,

I’m having a day where I’m doing dumb things so be gentle!

I have my bookmarks syncing over iCloud between all the macs and i-devices I 
own.  I deleted a load of old bookmarks on my Macbook Pro but they are still 
showing up as being present on other devices.   What am I doing wrong here?

Cheers,

An exasperated Dónal
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RE: how do I do the following in calander in ml

[David Griffith]

You could go to Voiceover settings and verbosity and turn hints announcement
off to see if that improves matters.

David Griffith

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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Mark Furness
Sent: 09 September 2013 14:41
To: mac access
Subject: how do I do the following in calander in ml

I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!

running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the
next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
Now ML,
1. subject is spoken.
2. a 10 second moment of silence.
3. Then v o says "you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,
the help tag this event belongs to calendar personal"
4. Then v o says the time of the event.

My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the
latest ML. 
Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
I don't believe that would make a difference.

In short, how do I  rearrange the above list of actions , putting step 4
after step 1.
Thank you for clarification in this perplexing situation.
Mark
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how do I do the following in calander in ml

[Mark Furness]

I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!

running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the 
next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
Now ML,  
1. subject is spoken.
2. a 10 second moment of silence.
3. Then v o says "you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,  the 
help tag this event belongs to calendar personal"
4. Then v o says the time of the event.

My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the 
latest ML. 
Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
I don't believe that would make a difference.

In short, how do I  rearrange the above list of actions , putting step 4  after 
step 1.
Thank you for clarification in this perplexing situation.
Mark
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

[Sarah k Alawami]

According to key board help it brings the window to the front. I have never got 
that key stroke to work in the 3 years I've used the mac. but I keep trying. 
lol!
On Sep 9, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Chris H  wrote:

> I must be missing something but what does vo shift f2 do?
> 
> On 08/09/2013 23:12, Bryan Jones wrote:
>> Maybe VO+Shift+F2 will bring the login item forward?
>> 
>> I've had the same message at startup a number of times on my 2011 MBA but 
>> haven't spent any time searching for a cause or a fix.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer 
>>  wrote:
>>> My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the 
>>> login screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is 
>>> unable to login to the system. Any
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

[Sarah k Alawami]

Lol. I had no podcasts but I guess I'm just fast at learning the basics of mac 
osx. it helps if you have the hints on for a while and that's how I learned how 
to click the check box that customizes everything, I can't remember what it's 
called at the moment as my brain is not yet up and functioning. lol! Actually I 
had a drill sergeant teach the mac who gave me the best advice. Take your mac 
to school, if it's a laptop anyways, and use it, then use it some more, then 
use it some more until you can do all the commands in your sleep. Tha'ts the 
best advice I've gotten and do this for all pieces of equipment I use weather 
hardware  or sot wares.

Tc and hth.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:59 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread 
> that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid 
> questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a 
> lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for 
> podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I 
> certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and 
> because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like 
> you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very 
> frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't 
> always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to 
> doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -
> 
> Andy
> On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, "Henry Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Andy
>> 
>> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
>> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
>> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial"
>> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
>> instructions are:
>> 
>> 1.   When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
>> 2.   Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
>> (this is where we are stuck)
>> 3.   Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
>> 
>> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
>> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
>> commands.
>> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
>> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
>> this case for us.
>> 
>> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
>> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
>> assistance to help.
>> 
>> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> Henry and Angela
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
>> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
>> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
>> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>>> 
>>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
>> speech
>>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>>> settings there.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>>> Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>>> access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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Re: Sendspace Wizard Question

[Sarah k Alawami]

Hit fn delete to get rid of them or select all and then control click as they 
broke the vo shift m and choose delete, or hit f5 and c clear the finished 
items. Either way will help.
On Sep 9, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
> they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
> clear that out? I've looked, but not found.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Kristeen
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Sendspace Wizard Question

[Kristeen Hughes]

I seem to have a lot of links in the wizard that are no oonger active and so 
they just stay there and show as inactive.Is there a way to delete them and 
clear that out? I've looked, but not found.

Thanks for any info.

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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy

Thanks for your reassuring comments which are much appreciated.  It is
certainly a steep learning curve from using a Pc, but we both love the Mac
Book Pro.  

best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 09 September 2013 11:59
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the
thread that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not
stupid questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to
ask a lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research
for podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this
Mac. I certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn,
and because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem
like you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very
frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it
isn't always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get
use to doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
the
> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
item
> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started
tutorial"
> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
> instructions are:
> 
> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
> (this is where we are stuck)
> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
> 
> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
how
> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
> commands.
> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
in
> this case for us.
> 
> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
sighted
> assistance to help.
> 
> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry and Angela
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
Another
> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
> speech
>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>> settings there.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
>>> through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>> Over
>>> within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>> access
>>> the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
within
>>> the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
>>> 
>>> Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: calander help clearification

[Cait and Maggie]

Mark,
In your vo utility, in the announcements tab, is there a choice for delay in 
speaking the announcements?  wonder if that's it?

Cait

On 2013-09-09, at 7:56 AM, Mark Furness  wrote:

> I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!
> 
> running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the 
> next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
> Now ML,  
> 1. subject is spoken.
> 2. a 10 second moment of silence.
> 3. Then v o says "you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,  
> the help tag this event belongs to calendar personal"
> 4. Then v o says the time of the event.
> 
> My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the 
> latest ML. 
> Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
> I don't believe that would make a difference.
> 
> In short, how do I remove point 2 and 3 so the subject is spoken quickly 
> followed by the events time announcement?
> 
> Mark
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calander help clearification

[Mark Furness]

I have the following problem. Hope someone can help as I am at my wits end!

running Calendar In Lion, hitting tab would pass me from one event  to the 
next. Then, immediately, the events time was announced.
Now ML,  
1. subject is spoken.
2. a 10 second moment of silence.
3. Then v o says "you are currently on a text  element in side of a list,  the 
help tag this event belongs to calendar personal"
4. Then v o says the time of the event.

My wife's i7 mac says it the way my lion use to. Both of us are running the 
latest ML. 
Our Macs are the same except hers is a i7 and mine is an i3.
I don't believe that would make a difference.

In short, how do I remove point 2 and 3 so the subject is spoken quickly 
followed by the events time announcement?

Mark
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Re: new member of list with a basic question?

[Josh Gregory]

Very good sanity is good :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Josh
> 
> Thank you for your kind welcoming  comments.  Also, a big thank you for your
> clear instructions-we have now regained our sanity .
> 
> very best wishes
> 
> Henry and Angela
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: 09 September 2013 11:19
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> Good morning, let me first welcome you to the list, as I didn't do so
> before. Welcome. I'm sure you'll learn many things here. Secondly, when
> speech is highlighted in the table, all you need to do is stop interacting
> with voiceover plus shift plus up arrow, voiceover plus right arrow to the
> announcements tab and Press voice over plus space to activate it. It should
> be noted that the voiceover keys are the control and option keys, if you're
> not already aware of this, which I suspect you are, but just saying for
> clarification purposes. Hope this helps you somewhat, if you need any
> further instructions feel free to ask.
> Thanks,
> Josh
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:11 AM, "Henry Miller" 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Andy
>> 
>> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
> the
>> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
> item
>> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started
> tutorial"
>> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
>> instructions are:
>> 
>> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
>> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
>> (this is where we are stuck)
>> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
>> 
>> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
> how
>> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
>> commands.
>> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
>> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
> in
>> this case for us.
>> 
>> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
>> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
> sighted
>> assistance to help.
>> 
>> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> Henry and Angela
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
> Another
>> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
>> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
>> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>>> 
>>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
>> speech
>>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>>> settings there.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>>> Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>>> access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
> within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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>>

Re: new member of list with a basic question?

[Josh Gregory]

Believe me I felt that way myself when I first got my computer, MacBook Pro mid 
2012. And no they're not stupid at all.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:59 AM, Andy Collins  wrote:

> Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread 
> that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid 
> questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a 
> lot on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for 
> podcasts etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I 
> certainly wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and 
> because at times things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like 
> you are doing something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very 
> frustrating, so keep in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't 
> always user error. Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to 
> doing things, just from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -
> 
> Andy
> On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, "Henry Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Andy
>> 
>> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
>> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
>> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial"
>> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
>> instructions are:
>> 
>> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
>> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
>> (this is where we are stuck)
>> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
>> 
>> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
>> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
>> commands.
>> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
>> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
>> this case for us.
>> 
>> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
>> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
>> assistance to help.
>> 
>> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> Henry and Angela
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
>> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
>> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
>> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Sarah
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>>> 
>>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
>> speech
>>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>>> settings there.
>>> 
>>> Tc.
>>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 Hi All
 
 My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
 through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>>> Over
 within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>>> access
 the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
 the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
 
 Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Henry
 
 
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>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
 
 You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum
>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
 
 or at the public Mail Archive:
 .
 Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
 
 
 As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we

Re: new member of list with a basic question?

[Andy Collins]

Henry - Only just read your below message, and am glad to see from the thread 
that you have now been given the help you needed. These are not stupid 
questions you ask, or if they are, then I too am stupid, as I had to ask a lot 
on this list too, and with help on here, and doing my own research for podcasts 
etc, I feel I have made great strides forward in using this Mac. I certainly 
wouldn't go back to Windows now. There is a lot to learn, and because at times 
things can be inconsistent with Voice Over, it can seem like you are doing 
something wrong, that use to work,and this can feel very frustrating, so keep 
in mind that at times, when things do not work, it isn't always user error. 
Good luck, and keep asking for help, once you get use to doing things, just 
from repetition, it'll all feel much easier -

Andy
On 9 Sep 2013, at 11:11, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial"
> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
> instructions are:
> 
> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
> (this is where we are stuck)
> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
> 
> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
> commands.
> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
> this case for us.
> 
> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
> assistance to help.
> 
> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry and Angela
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
> speech
>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>> settings there.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
>>> through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>> Over
>>> within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>> access
>>> the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
>>> the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
>>> 
>>> Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum
>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>> 
>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>> .
>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure
>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security
>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
>> unpredictable happen.
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RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Josh

Thank you for your kind welcoming  comments.  Also, a big thank you for your
clear instructions-we have now regained our sanity .

very best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
Sent: 09 September 2013 11:19
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Good morning, let me first welcome you to the list, as I didn't do so
before. Welcome. I'm sure you'll learn many things here. Secondly, when
speech is highlighted in the table, all you need to do is stop interacting
with voiceover plus shift plus up arrow, voiceover plus right arrow to the
announcements tab and Press voice over plus space to activate it. It should
be noted that the voiceover keys are the control and option keys, if you're
not already aware of this, which I suspect you are, but just saying for
clarification purposes. Hope this helps you somewhat, if you need any
further instructions feel free to ask.
Thanks,
Josh

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:11 AM, "Henry Miller" 
wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around
the
> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an
item
> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started
tutorial"
> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
> instructions are:
> 
> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
> (this is where we are stuck)
> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
> 
> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know
how
> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
> commands.
> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work
in
> this case for us.
> 
> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any
sighted
> assistance to help.
> 
> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry and Angela
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys.
Another
> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
> speech
>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>> settings there.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
>>> through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>> Over
>>> within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>> access
>>> the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings
within
>>> the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
>>> 
>>> Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access
forum
>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>> 
>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>> .
>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>> 
>>> 
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>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains

Re: new member of list with a basic question?

[Josh Gregory]

Good morning, let me first welcome you to the list, as I didn't do so before. 
Welcome. I'm sure you'll learn many things here. Secondly, when speech is 
highlighted in the table, all you need to do is stop interacting with voiceover 
plus shift plus up arrow, voiceover plus right arrow to the announcements tab 
and Press voice over plus space to activate it. It should be noted that the 
voiceover keys are the control and option keys, if you're not already aware of 
this, which I suspect you are, but just saying for clarification purposes. Hope 
this helps you somewhat, if you need any further instructions feel free to ask.
Thanks,
Josh

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 9, 2013, at 6:11 AM, "Henry Miller"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Andy
> 
> Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
> screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
> to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial"
> Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
> instructions are:
> 
> 1.When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
> 2.Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
> (this is where we are stuck)
> 3.Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 
> 
> We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
> to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
> commands.
> This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
> "click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
> this case for us.
> 
> We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
> both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
> assistance to help.
> 
> Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry and Angela
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
> Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
> place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
> an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
> pitch, speed etc, on the fly -
> 
> Andy
> On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sarah
>> 
>> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
>> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
>> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
>> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
>> 
>> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
> speech
>> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
>> settings there.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
>>> through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
>> Over
>>> within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
>> access
>>> the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
>>> the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
>>> 
>>> Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Henry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>> 
>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>> 
>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum
>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive:
>>> 
>>> or at the public Mail Archive:
>>> .
>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure
>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security
>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
>> unpredictable happen.
>>> 
>>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by
>> visiting the list website at:
>>> 
>> 
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Acc

RE: new member of list with a basic question?

[Henry Miller]

Hi Andy

Many thanks for your suggestions.  We have learnt how to navigate around the
screen with VO plus right or left arrow etc.  Our problem is opening an item
to adjust the settings. for example, in the apple "getting started tutorial"
Chapter 2, under the heading of "Hear when modifier keys are pressed" the
instructions are:
 
1.  When VoiceOver is on, open VoiceOver Utility by pressing VO-F8.
2.  Click Verbosity in the category table, and then click Announcements.
(this is where we are stuck)
3.  Select the "Announce when a modifier key is pressed" checkbox. 

We can interact with the table and highlight Verbosity, but do not know how
to reach "announcements" from this point-despite trying numerous VO
commands.
This tutorial was obviously written by a sighted person: for we  assume to
"click" an item we either use VO plus spacebar or enter which do not work in
this case for us.

We are obviously missing something very simple and feel embarrased, we are
both total and rely completely on what we hear,  and do not have any sighted
assistance to help.
   
Any step by step set of instructions will be greatly appreciated.

best wishes

Henry and Angela


-Original Message-
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[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 08 September 2013 22:23
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?

Henry - To navigate, use the VO keys with right and left arrow keys. Another
place you can make some VO customised adjustments is by using VO v when in
an application, and VO cmd with the arrow keys will let you adjust voice,
pitch, speed etc, on the fly -

Andy
On 8 Sep 2013, at 20:47, Henry Miller  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Sarah
> 
> Many thanks for your reply.  Unfortunately, I am not understanding your
> instructions.  How do I navigate around the screen to reach the options?
> Sorry if I appear an idiot, but Mac is a steep learning curve from a PC.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
> Sent: 08 September 2013 20:19
> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: new member of list with a basic question?
> 
> vo f8 to open the utility, then cmd numrow 2. then  check additional
speech
> verbosity options check box then head over to the table. and modify your
> settings there.
> 
> Tc.
> On Sep 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Henry Miller 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> My wife has just bought a mac book pro and is gradually working her way
>> through the "getting started guide".  We are trying to customise voice
> Over
>> within the voice over utility and wish to open the Verbosity icon to
> access
>> the settings-although we can navigate around the category headings within
>> the table we cannot open verbosity to change settings.  
>> 
>> Please could someone explain the keystrokes to open Verbosity?
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
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Re: VMware Fusion 6.0

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Hi Chris

I’m not sure, but in the store they are separate downloads.


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On 8 Sep 2013, at 16:16, Chris H  wrote:

> Gordon I thought Vmware Fusion 6.0 and Vmware Fusion 6.0 Professional is in 
> one package. If not how come we are able to try the edition out at no cost 
> without downloading anything additional? Just my thoughts.
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> On 08/09/2013 15:14, Gordon Smith wrote:
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Re: Authentication has no windows?

[Chris H]

I must be missing something but what does vo shift f2 do?

On 08/09/2013 23:12, Bryan Jones wrote:

Maybe VO+Shift+F2 will bring the login item forward?


I've had the same message at startup a number of times on my 2011 MBA but 
haven't spent any time searching for a cause or a fix.

HTH,
Bryan


On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Matthew Dyer  
wrote:

My girlfriend keeps having  a problem with her Mac book air at the login 
screen. Vo keeps saying authentication has no windows and she is unable to 
login to the system. Any

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