[Mac-Access]: Disabling preview pane in mac mail

2015-06-06 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, can anyone remind me how to turn off the message preview in Mac mail, 
here is what I have tried without success:
Find the splitter between the message table and preview and interact
bring it down to zero
use vo command f5 to move the mouse pointer
tap the track pad

Any help would be appreciated
Frank

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Re: [Mac-Access]: Saving mail on iPhone

2015-05-26 Thread Diane Bomare
It is possible, but not as straightforward, as it could be. The folder has to 
be set up before moving a message. Open the mailbox in which you would like to 
save the subfolder/mailbox. Do not select an message. Tap Edit in the top right 
of the screen, and go to the end and find Create new. If you have additional 
questions, feel free to write to me privately, to avoid this triplicate email 
problem we are having on the list.
HTH,

 Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2015, at 09:49, Paul Hopewell  wrote:

Hello, 
I am running IOS 8.3 on my iPhone 5S. I would like to save a received Email in 
a folder local to my iPhone with a folder name relating to the subject of the 
Email. I do this all the time using Apple mail on my iMac and it is a very 
useful facility. 

On the iPhone I tried the move button for iPhone mail which does let me move 
the mail item to one of a predefined set of mail boxes, but I could not see any 
way to create a mail box (or folder) with a name which I create. 
Is this possible on IOS and if so how? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell



[Mac-Access]: Saving mail on iPhone

2015-05-26 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, 
I am running IOS 8.3 on my iPhone 5S. I would like to save a received Email in 
a folder local to my iPhone with a folder name relating to the subject of the 
Email. I do this all the time using Apple mail on my iMac and it is a very 
useful facility. 

On the iPhone I tried the move button for iPhone mail which does let me move 
the mail item to one of a predefined set of mail boxes, but I could not see any 
way to create a mail box (or folder) with a name which I create. 
Is this possible on IOS and if so how? 
Many thanks. 

Paul Hopewell


Re: [Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail

2015-05-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
1. Launch mail.
2. go to the end of the mail window where it says new mail box
3. vo space on that and choose new mail box 
4. Decide if you want the mail box to be  in the main part of your mac or in 
your account's side by choosing that in the drop down combo box that appears.
5. vo right to the name field and 
6. type in the name of the mail box
7. Hit ok.

good luck.
> On May 25, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Margaret Booth  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please tell me how I can create a folder in Mail on my Mac book 
> pro. 
> 
> Margaret 




[Mac-Access]: creating a folder in mail

2015-05-25 Thread Margaret Booth
Can someone please tell me how I can create a folder in Mail on my Mac book 
pro. 

Margaret 


Re: [Mac-access]: how do I remove the message preview pain in yosemite's mail app?

2015-04-10 Thread blind man
thanks, love. I think I managed to get it to go away. can’t remember the exact 
steps I took, but, it’s now not there. This I like. hehe.

> On 11 Apr 2015, at 11:52 am, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> I think you have to root the mouse to the splitter then press the track pad 
> until you feel it click and swipe down. That should make it go away.
>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:32 PM, blind man  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to hide the message preview pain in mail and can’t seem to 
>> get the old command of routing the mouse to the splitter and double clicking 
>> on it to hide the thing. any help would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks, Shaun.
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Re: [Mac-access]: how do I remove the message preview pain in yosemite's mail app?

2015-04-10 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think you have to root the mouse to the splitter then press the track pad 
until you feel it click and swipe down. That should make it go away.
> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:32 PM, blind man  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I’ve been trying to hide the message preview pain in mail and can’t seem to 
> get the old command of routing the mouse to the splitter and double clicking 
> on it to hide the thing. any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks, Shaun.
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[Mac-access]: how do I remove the message preview pain in yosemite's mail app?

2015-04-10 Thread blind man
Hi all,

I’ve been trying to hide the message preview pain in mail and can’t seem to get 
the old command of routing the mouse to the splitter and double clicking on it 
to hide the thing. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Shaun.

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Re: [Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

2015-04-08 Thread Diane Bomare
Melissa,
Does AT&T  still go through yahoo!?
 Diane Bomar
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:27, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

it's called outsourcing.  They do it to save costs. If you absolutely cannot 
get it to work I would just sign up with a gmail account and use that. you get 
a lot more space, it's easy to set up, and it's free, and you get 15 gigs of 
space. 
> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
> 
> yes, but there are several different answers and I can't get them to work.  I 
> probably will end up calling their customer support to get the current 
> settings, but seems like most of the reps don't speak very good english.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> I can't really look at the moment for a website, but have you googled at&t's 
> help support page on this matter? 
> 
> Take care and hope that somewhat helps.
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
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>> since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically 
>> configure after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either 
>> set it up as imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have 
>> the correct settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac 
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Re: [Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

2015-04-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
it's called outsourcing.  They do it to save costs. If you absolutely cannot 
get it to work I would just sign up with a gmail account and use that. you get 
a lot more space, it's easy to set up, and it's free, and you get 15 gigs of 
space. 
> On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
> 
> yes, but there are several different answers and I can't get them to work.  I 
> probably will end up calling their customer support to get the current 
> settings, but seems like most of the reps don't speak very good english.
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I can't really look at the moment for a website, but have you googled at&t's 
> help support page on this matter? 
> 
> Take care and hope that somewhat helps.
>> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
>> 
>> since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically 
>> configure after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either 
>> set it up as imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have 
>> the correct settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac 
>> until now.  I don't know what has changed.  I can't tell.  Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

2015-04-08 Thread Melissa Tucker
yes, but there are several different answers and I can't get them to work.  I 
probably will end up calling their customer support to get the current 
settings, but seems like most of the reps don't speak very good english.



On Apr 7, 2015, at 11:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:

I can't really look at the moment for a website, but have you googled at&t's 
help support page on this matter? 

Take care and hope that somewhat helps.
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
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> since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically configure 
> after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either set it up as 
> imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have the correct 
> settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac until now.  I 
> don't know what has changed.  I can't tell.  Thanks.
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

2015-04-07 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I can't really look at the moment for a website, but have you googled at&t's 
help support page on this matter? 

Take care and hope that somewhat helps.
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Melissa Tucker  wrote:
> 
> since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically configure 
> after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either set it up as 
> imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have the correct 
> settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac until now.  I 
> don't know what has changed.  I can't tell.  Thanks.
> 
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[Mac-access]: problems with at&t mail on the mac

2015-04-07 Thread Melissa Tucker
since I've updated my mac, my at&t mail account won't automatically configure 
after I entered my email address and password.  I need to either set it up as 
imap or pop. it doesn't matter.  does anyone using at&t have the correct 
settings?  I never had to worry about this when using the mac until now.  I 
don't know what has changed.  I can't tell.  Thanks.


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Re: [Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get rid of my hot mail account?

2015-03-29 Thread Jason White
Adrian Leong  wrote:
> Does any one know how i can get rid of my hotmail account. from my mac?

I don't have a Hotmail account. However, try looking under System Preferences
-> Internet Accounts. A table of accounts should be shown, and you should then
be able to select the one you want to remove.

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[Mac-access]: does any one know how i can get rid of my hot mail account?

2015-03-29 Thread Adrian Leong
Does any one know how i can get rid of my hotmail account. from my mac?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-20 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Colin:

Thanks all over the place.


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Hi!
OK the command is [Command+Option+A]
That will bring up the address panel!
HTH Colin

On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:37, Jim Noseworthy
 wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and
insert an address from a particular contact card?
> 
> I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from
there but I have not been able to get that to work.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
>   
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke
 wrote:
>> 
>> just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to
complete the whole email address.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:31, Jim Noseworthy
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Folks:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to 
>>> a new mail?
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-20 Thread christopher hallsworth
Command-option-a does not work for me.
> On 19 Mar 2015, at 23:43, Colin Matthews  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> OK the command is [Command+Option+A]
> That will bring up the address panel!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:37, Jim Noseworthy  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and insert 
>> an address from a particular contact card?
>> 
>> I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from 
>> there but I have not been able to get that to work.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
>>> complete the whole email address.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:31, Jim Noseworthy 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Folks:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
>>>> mail?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks all over the place gang.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi!
OK the command is [Command+Option+A]
That will bring up the address panel!
HTH Colin

On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:37, Jim Noseworthy  
wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and insert 
> an address from a particular contact card?
> 
> I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from there 
> but I have not been able to get that to work.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
>   
>> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
>> complete the whole email address.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:31, Jim Noseworthy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Folks:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
>>> mail?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks all over the place gang.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually in our cases it's gmail that is flaging mac access as spam, not all 
the time but I just use the website and manage it that way, then it's all fine. 
I don't use apple's junk feature as for me it has never worked. 
> On Mar 19, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
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> I've just given up with Apple Mails spam filtering tool, I've turne it off 
> and I do the filtering manually, that is to say I delete all my email from 
> the in-box and browse the trash, that way if I come across any Spam - I don't 
> get much - I can just use the delete command and the offending email 
> disappears into space.
> 
> 
> 
> On 20/03/2015 3:51 AM, Judy Pryor wrote:
>> Why is my mail I send to the group going into the Spam folder.  One or 2 
>> other emails from the group.  are also going in there too.  I move them back 
>> into the In box.
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Re: [Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Dane Trethowan
I've just given up with Apple Mails spam filtering tool, I've turne it 
off and I do the filtering manually, that is to say I delete all my 
email from the in-box and browse the trash, that way if I come across 
any Spam - I don't get much - I can just use the delete command and the 
offending email disappears into space.




On 20/03/2015 3:51 AM, Judy Pryor wrote:

Why is my mail I send to the group going into the Spam folder.  One or 2 other 
emails from the group.  are also going in there too.  I move them back into the 
In box.
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Re: [Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I think gail is getting slightly mor eagresive. I guess just keep an eye on it 
and move it back and keep flaging it for non  spam.

Take care. 
> On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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Re: [Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Joseph Hudson
I have no clue, have you tried doing on your email provider's website, in I'm 
shaking it as spam? Most email providers have a place where you can check
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> On Mar 19, 2015, at 11:51 AM, Judy Pryor  wrote:
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> Why is my mail I send to the group going into the Spam folder.  One or 2 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi, I do this by typing the first letter of the person's email address, then 
once one address shows up then I arrow down till I get to the correct address 
that I want.
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> On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:31 AM, Jim Noseworthy 
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> Hi Folks:
> 
> 
> 
> In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
> mail?
> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
all my contacts also show up if they have email addresses when I go to write an 
address I just start writing it and it appears there.



> On 19 Mar 2015, at 15:37, Jim Noseworthy  
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> Hello:
> 
> But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and insert 
> an address from a particular contact card?
> 
> I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from there 
> but I have not been able to get that to work.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
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>> just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
>> complete the whole email address.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Mac-access]: some mail going into spam

2015-03-19 Thread Judy Pryor
Why is my mail I send to the group going into the Spam folder.  One or 2 other 
emails from the group.  are also going in there too.  I move them back into the 
In box.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hello:

But is there a way to access the list of contacts via Apple Mail and insert an 
address from a particular contact card?

I read somewhere that one could choose a contact and send an email from there 
but I have not been able to get that to work.

Cheers.



> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
>  wrote:
> 
> just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
> complete the whole email address.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 14:31, Jim Noseworthy 
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>> Hi Folks:
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>> In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
just start typing it and it will then show up. I will obviously have to 
complete the whole email address.



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[Mac-access]: Apple mail and contacts.

2015-03-19 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Folks:

 

In Yosemite, how does one insert an address from the contacts in to a new
mail?

 

Thanks all over the place gang.

 

 

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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple Mail question

2015-03-09 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I simply just hit enter on the calaps thread, then navigate with left and right 
arrow, or vo left and right, both work, and all is good.

Since youa are using the public beta you are under an nda and therefore cannot 
discuss any issues. Sorry.  I take NDA's very seriously and honor them like 
they are hot.  I also atract a lot of flac and enemies but it's for the good of 
the company.
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Paul Hopewell  wrote:
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> Hello, 
> I am running Yosemite public beta 10.10.3. I have Apple Mail set to classic 
> view and have checked the view option to group messages by conversation. 
> 
> I am unclear on how to handle multiple messages in the same conversation 
> using VO. This is easy on my iPhone as selecting such a message reveals a 
> list of all the messages in that conversation which I can then read one by 
> one. On Yosemite I can easily access the first message in that conversation 
> but cannot reliably access all the other messages in that conversation. 
> Somehow these are all getting deleted. 
> 
> So what is the technique on Yosemite to access multiple messages in the same 
> conversation? 
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> Many thanks. 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple Mail Question.

2015-03-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You need to drag the mail box over. then holding vo plus space arrange the mail 
boxes.  See the following demo

http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-how-to-add-and-remove-favorites-in-apple-mail/
 
<http://www.tffppodcast.com/looking-at-how-to-add-and-remove-favorites-in-apple-mail/>


Feel free to add a comment in the space provided in the show notes. in case you 
have questions as that's the quickest way to let others know what you liked. 
Hope that helps.

Blessings and happy Sunday.
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> 
> How does one add a mailbox to the favorites and assign a command+number
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[Mac-access]: Apple Mail Question.

2015-03-08 Thread Jim Noseworthy
Hi Gang:

 

How does one add a mailbox to the favorites and assign a command+number
shortcut?

 

Thanks all over the place.

 

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Re: [Mac-access]: Apple Mail question

2015-03-08 Thread Jason White
Paul Hopewell  wrote:
 
> So what is the technique on Yosemite to access multiple messages in the same 
> conversation? 

Right arrow to expand the conversation, left arrow to collapse it. Once
expanded, your message table is modified to include an entry for each
individual message in the thread.

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[Mac-access]: Apple Mail question

2015-03-08 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hello, 
I am running Yosemite public beta 10.10.3. I have Apple Mail set to classic 
view and have checked the view option to group messages by conversation. 

I am unclear on how to handle multiple messages in the same conversation using 
VO. This is easy on my iPhone as selecting such a message reveals a list of all 
the messages in that conversation which I can then read one by one. On Yosemite 
I can easily access the first message in that conversation but cannot reliably 
access all the other messages in that conversation. Somehow these are all 
getting deleted. 

So what is the technique on Yosemite to access multiple messages in the same 
conversation? 

Many thanks. 

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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You can also unhide the library  by default although I would not recommend it. 
If you want to do this so you don't have to type ~/library in the cmd shift g 
dialogue in the finder   simply hit cmd j and uncheck hide library. They hide 
it from people who  might want to tinker like myself. Lol! 
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Honestly? How new to the Mac are you? I bet if you look in the edit menu 
> you'll find the right command. You might want to read through the getting 
> started manual that you can find in the voiceover help system by pressing vo 
> and the letter H.  It answers a lot of these basic questions.
> 
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Juanita Martin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Okay. I found the envelope files. How do I delete them?
>> When I do a shift delete, the computer just dings.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
>>> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>>> find the envelope files in there.
>>> 
>>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Envelope Index
>>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hth.
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, open the 
>>>>> “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>>> find the envelope files in there.
>>> 
>>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>>> 

Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Sarah k Alawami
You do a cmd del on the files then clear your  trash.  If that fails, and I 
mean the clearing of the trash go to that in your doc, copy the files to the 
clip board then launch terminal then do an

rm -rf then paste in the files. Make sure they are in the .trash folder

Take care.
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Okay. I found the envelope files. How do I delete them?
> When I do a shift delete, the computer just dings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
>> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/open> your home 
>>>> folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, open the 
>>>> “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin >> <mailto:jordmar...@suddenlink.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami >>> <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>

Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Phil Halton
Honestly? How new to the Mac are you? I bet if you look in the edit menu you'll 
find the right command. You might want to read through the getting started 
manual that you can find in the voiceover help system by pressing vo and the 
letter H.  It answers a lot of these basic questions.


Sent from my IPhone


> On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Okay. I found the envelope files. How do I delete them?
> When I do a shift delete, the computer just dings.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
>> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/open your home 
>>>> folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, open the 
>>>> “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, 
>>> but open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll 
>>> find the envelope files in there.
>> 
>>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now 
>>>> delete the following 3 files.
>>>> 
>>>> Envelope Index
>>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>>> 
>>>> Hth.
>>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail databas

Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Juanita Martin
Okay. I found the envelope files. How do I delete them?
When I do a shift delete, the computer just dings.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, but 
>> open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll find the 
>> envelope files in there.
> 
>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>> 
>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
>>> the following 3 files.
>>> 
>>> Envelope Index
>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>> 
>>> Hth.
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/open your home 
>>> folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, open the 
>>> “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, but 
>> open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll find the 
>> envelope files in there.
> 
>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>> 
>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
>>> the following 3 files.
>>> 
>>> Envelope Index
>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>> 
>>> Hth.
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Or just type cmd shift g from the finder and type ~/llibrary/mail then you can 
browse tot eh rest of the path.

Take care.
> On Feb 18, 2015, at 7:04 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu 
> bar, open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
>> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, but 
>> open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll find the 
>> envelope files in there.
> 
>> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
>> 
>> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
>>> the following 3 files.
>>> 
>>> Envelope Index
>>> Envelope Index-shm
>>> Envelope Index-wal
>>> 
>>> Hth.
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-18 Thread Phil Halton
open your home folder by pressing command shift H. then in the finder menu bar, 
open the “GO” menu and arrow down to library and press enter.
> interact with the browser, and arrow down to Library. it will be dimmed, but 
> open it anyway, now you can drill  down to Mail/V2/MailData. You’ll find the 
> envelope files in there.

> M, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
>> the following 3 files.
>> 
>> Envelope Index
>> Envelope Index-shm
>> Envelope Index-wal
>> 
>> Hth.
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-17 Thread Juanita Martin
Where do you enter this information? I am not  familiar with browse.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:18 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete 
> the following 3 files.
> 
> Envelope Index
> Envelope Index-shm
> Envelope Index-wal
> 
> Hth.
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I forgot to add restart mail and let it reimport the mail so it might rebuild 
those files.

good luck.
> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-17 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Shut down mail. Browse to ~/library/mail/v2 then open mail data. Now delete the 
following 3 files.

Envelope Index
Envelope Index-shm
Envelope Index-wal

Hth.
> On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
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> Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-17 Thread David Griffith
There is a rebuild mailbox option right at the end of a long Mailbox 
menu in Apple Mail, which you could try.


I am not sure though if this is what you are looking for as I have never 
heard of a mail database.


David Griffith

On 18/02/2015 02:39, Juanita Martin wrote:

Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?


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[Mac-access]: Repairing the mail database

2015-02-17 Thread Juanita Martin
Can someone tell me how to repair the Mac Air's mail database?


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Re: [Mac-access]: Still having problems with mail

2015-02-15 Thread Juanita Martin
No, how do you do that?


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> On Feb 15, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> Did you try repairing permissions/ it sounds like the data base is being 
> corrupted by something. 
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Juanita Martin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Every day or so, when I do the get mail command, the Mac Air just beeps and 
>> that's all.  I don't get any mail.  The only way I can get mail again is to 
>> delete the account and then add it again.  If I didn't get much mail, it 
>> wouldn't be a problem but the next time I add the mail account back, I'll 
>> have well over a thousand emails to delete.  I only have this problem with 
>> the Mac Air.  I get mail on the iPhone and the PC just fine.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What problem are you having with it? I have no issues as of yet with the 
>>> program. .
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've had trouble with my mail.  The 
>>>> solution was to delete the mail account and create it again.  This works, 
>>>> but I have to do it almost every day.  Then I have to delete all the mail 
>>>> I've already read.  All the software seems to be up to date.  The Yosemite 
>>>> is 10.1.2 I think.
>>>> Is there something I can try to resolve this once and for all?  
>>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Still having problems with mail

2015-02-15 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Did you try repairing permissions/ it sounds like the data base is being 
corrupted by something. 
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> Every day or so, when I do the get mail command, the Mac Air just beeps and 
> that's all.  I don't get any mail.  The only way I can get mail again is to 
> delete the account and then add it again.  If I didn't get much mail, it 
> wouldn't be a problem but the next time I add the mail account back, I'll 
> have well over a thousand emails to delete.  I only have this problem with 
> the Mac Air.  I get mail on the iPhone and the PC just fine.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> What problem are you having with it? I have no issues as of yet with the 
>> program. .
>> 
>> Take care.
>>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Juanita Martin  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've had trouble with my mail.  The 
>>> solution was to delete the mail account and create it again.  This works, 
>>> but I have to do it almost every day.  Then I have to delete all the mail 
>>> I've already read.  All the software seems to be up to date.  The Yosemite 
>>> is 10.1.2 I think.
>>> Is there something I can try to resolve this once and for all?  
>>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Still having problems with mail

2015-02-15 Thread Juanita Martin
Every day or so, when I do the get mail command, the Mac Air just beeps and 
that's all.  I don't get any mail.  The only way I can get mail again is to 
delete the account and then add it again.  If I didn't get much mail, it 
wouldn't be a problem but the next time I add the mail account back, I'll have 
well over a thousand emails to delete.  I only have this problem with the Mac 
Air.  I get mail on the iPhone and the PC just fine.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:26 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> What problem are you having with it? I have no issues as of yet with the 
> program. .
> 
> Take care.
>> On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Juanita Martin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've had trouble with my mail.  The 
>> solution was to delete the mail account and create it again.  This works, 
>> but I have to do it almost every day.  Then I have to delete all the mail 
>> I've already read.  All the software seems to be up to date.  The Yosemite 
>> is 10.1.2 I think.
>> Is there something I can try to resolve this once and for all?  
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Still having problems with mail

2015-02-15 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What problem are you having with it? I have no issues as of yet with the 
program. .

Take care.
> On Feb 15, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Juanita Martin  
> wrote:
> 
> Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've had trouble with my mail.  The 
> solution was to delete the mail account and create it again.  This works, but 
> I have to do it almost every day.  Then I have to delete all the mail I've 
> already read.  All the software seems to be up to date.  The Yosemite is 
> 10.1.2 I think.
> Is there something I can try to resolve this once and for all?  
> 
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[Mac-access]: Still having problems with mail

2015-02-15 Thread Juanita Martin
Ever since I updated to Yosemite, I've had trouble with my mail.  The solution 
was to delete the mail account and create it again.  This works, but I have to 
do it almost every day.  Then I have to delete all the mail I've already read.  
All the software seems to be up to date.  The Yosemite is 10.1.2 I think.
Is there something I can try to resolve this once and for all?  

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I actually show that a bit  in my yosemite tutorials  at 
http://tffppodcast.com/premium <http://tffppodcast.com/premium>  I can't 
remember what file it was, but the list should help. You also get two bonus 
text files as well.

Everyone have a happy Sunday. 
> On Jan 25, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hi David and Sarah
> 
> Many thanks I overlooked the view within the preferences.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
> Sent: 25 January 2015 19:08
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.
> 
> In Mail preferences under view there is a check box for classic view.
> 
> If you check this you are in classic view.
> If you uncheck it you will be in the default modern view.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 25/01/2015 13:48, Henry Miller wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David
>> 
>> Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
>> -it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?
>> 
>> best wishes
>> 
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
>> Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.
>> 
>> It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never
>> like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will
>> deliver what you want.
>> 
>>   In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list,
>> with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the
>> first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This
>> is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key
>> without even having to open the message.
>> In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open
> messages
>> I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like
>> this feature and  find it a time saver.
>> As I say
>> you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue
>> cursoing down to next message.
>> 
>> If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO
>> J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.
>> 
>> Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first
>> message you try to read.
>> 
>> The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down
>> function for navigating long text emails.
>> 
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to
>> interact  first.
>> five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually
>> then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's
>> mail boxl wrote:
>>> Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
>>> Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
>>> who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
>>> Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each
>> colum
>>> at a time.
>>> Cheers Michael.a
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-25 Thread Adrian Leong
i agree. i reallylike the intuitive interface of mail on the mac
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread Henry Miller
Hi David and Sarah

Many thanks I overlooked the view within the preferences.

best wishes

Henry



-Original Message-
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To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

In Mail preferences under view there is a check box for classic view.

If you check this you are in classic view.
If you uncheck it you will be in the default modern view.

David Griffith

On 25/01/2015 13:48, Henry Miller wrote:
>
> Hi David
>
> Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
> -it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?
>
> best wishes
>
> Henry
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
> Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.
>
> It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never
> like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will
> deliver what you want.
>
>In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list,
> with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the
> first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This
> is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key
> without even having to open the message.
> In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open
messages
> I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like
> this feature and  find it a time saver.
> As I say
> you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue
> cursoing down to next message.
>
> If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO
> J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.
>
> Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first
> message you try to read.
>
> The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down
> function for navigating long text emails.
>
>
> David Griffith
> The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to
> interact  first.
> five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually
> then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's
> mail boxl wrote:
>> Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
>> Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
>> who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
>> Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each
> colum
>> at a time.
>> Cheers Michael.a
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread David Griffith

In Mail preferences under view there is a check box for classic view.

If you check this you are in classic view.
If you uncheck it you will be in the default modern view.

David Griffith

On 25/01/2015 13:48, Henry Miller wrote:


Hi David

Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
-it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?

best wishes

Henry




-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never
like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will
deliver what you want.

   In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list,
with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the
first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This
is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key
without even having to open the message.
In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open messages
I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like
this feature and  find it a time saver.
As I say
you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue
cursoing down to next message.

If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO
J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.

Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first
message you try to read.

The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down
function for navigating long text emails.


David Griffith
The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to
interact  first.
five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually
then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's
mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each

colum

at a time.
Cheers Michael.a
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I believe its only when you write, tha't when I like it. I also have my links 
and as sounds so I do go and fly through my mail.

Take care. 
> On Jan 25, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
> 
> I don't hear any extra block stuff in my mail.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess it's just something I'll have to get used to.  
>> 
>> I personally hate it, but, whatever.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing 
>>> this is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst 
>>> others is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a 
>>> research paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the 
>>> text it says to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting 
>>> space o something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were 
>>> in more apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with 
>>> block quotes a lot.
>>> 
>>> As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
>>> 
>>> Blessings and happy Saturday
>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail 
>>>> is busy a lot?
>>>> Lovette
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
>>>>> but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
>>>>> that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
>>>>> don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
>>>>> some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
>>>>> blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
>>>>> arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
>>>>> is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
>>>>> nothing to shut this off. Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
>>>>> somewhere, there has got to be a way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How can I fix this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>>> 
>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>>> at the list's public Mail Archive:
>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>>> Subscribe to the list's I guess it's just something I'll have to get used 
>>>>> to.  
>> 
>> I personally hate it, but, whatever.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami >> <mailto:marri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing 
>>> this is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst 
>>> others is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a 
>>> research paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the 
>>> text it says to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting 
>>> space o something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were 
>>> in more apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with 
>>> block quotes a lot.
>>> 
>>> As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
>>> 
>>> Blessings and happy Saturday
>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan >>> <mailto:lyewc...@telus.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail 
>>>> is busy a lot?
>>>>

Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Simply check use  classic layout for classic view and uncheck that box for 
modern view.
> On Jan 25, 2015, at 5:48 AM, Henry Miller  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi David
> 
> Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
> -it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?
> 
> best wishes
> 
> Henry

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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I took away the preview pain so for me in both classic and modern view the the 
messages will not read. i hate modern view with a passion as I'm a list and 
tables person and have to have  my messages organized by date descending and 
only read the subject. This is always how I have read mail for the 20 or so 
years I've been using a computer, and 13 since I started using my own computer.

Blessings and happy Sunday.
> On Jan 25, 2015, at 1:24 AM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never like 
> and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will deliver what 
> you want.
> 
> In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list, with the 
> default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the first five 
> lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This is enough for me 
> to normally decide if I need to press the delete key without even having to 
> open the message.
> In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open messages
> I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like this 
> feature and  find it a time saver.
> As I say
> you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue cursoing 
> down to next message.
> 
> If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO J to 
> jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.
> 
> Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first message 
> you try to read.
> 
> The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down function 
> for navigating long text emails.
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to interact  
> first.
> five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually then 
> VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's mail boxl 
> wrote:
>> Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
>> Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
>> who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
>> Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum
>> at a time.
>> Cheers Michael.a
>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>> 
>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>> 
>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum at 
>> the list's public Mail Archive:
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>> 
>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that 
>> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and 
>> worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security 
>> strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something 
>> unpredictable happen.
>> 
>> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by 
>> visiting the list website at:
>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
> 
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> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-25 Thread Juanita Martin
 I don't hear any extra block stuff in my mail.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> I guess it's just something I'll have to get used to.  
> 
> I personally hate it, but, whatever.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this 
>> is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst 
>> others is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a 
>> research paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the 
>> text it says to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting 
>> space o something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were 
>> in more apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with 
>> block quotes a lot.
>> 
>> As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
>> 
>> Blessings and happy Saturday
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
>>> busy a lot?
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
>>>> but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
>>>> that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
>>>> don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
>>>> some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
>>>> blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
>>>> arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
>>>> is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
>>>> nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
>>>> somewhere, there has got to be a way.
>>>> 
>>>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I fix this?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>>>> 
>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to 
>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net
>>>> 
>>>> You can find an archive of all messages postedto the Mac-Access forum 
>>>> at the list's public Mail Archive:
>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
>>>> Subscribe to the list's I guess it's just something I'll have to get used 
>>>> to.  
> 
> I personally hate it, but, whatever.
> 
> Chris.
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this 
>> is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst 
>> others is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a 
>> research paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the 
>> text it says to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting 
>> space o something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were 
>> in more apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with 
>> block quotes a lot.
>> 
>> As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
>> 
>> Blessings and happy Saturday
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
>>> busy a lot?
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
>>>> but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
>>>> that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
>>>> don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
>>>> some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, t

Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread Henry Miller


Hi David

Where do I find the settings for standard modern view and default preview
-it is not obvious in the view menu and preferences?

best wishes

Henry
   


-Original Message-
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: 25 January 2015 09:25
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never 
like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will 
deliver what you want.

  In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list, 
with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the 
first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This 
is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key 
without even having to open the message.
In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open messages
I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like 
this feature and  find it a time saver.
As I say
you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue 
cursoing down to next message.

If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO 
J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.

Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first 
message you try to read.

The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down 
function for navigating long text emails.


David Griffith
The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to 
interact  first.
five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually 
then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's 
mail boxl wrote:
> Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
> Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
> who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
> Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each
colum
> at a time.
> Cheers Michael.a
> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
>
> To reply to this post, please address your message to
mac-access@mac-access.net
>
> You can find an archive of all messages posted    to the Mac-Access forum
at the list's public Mail Archive:
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>.
> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from:
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml>
>
> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to ensure that
the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and
worm-free.  However, this should in no way replace your own security
strategy.  We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something
unpredictable happen.
>
> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by
visiting the list website at:
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-25 Thread David Griffith
It sounds like you are in Classic View, which I personally have never 
like and I have always preferred the standard modern view which will 
deliver what you want.


 In standard modern view as you simply cursor down the message list, 
with the default preview turned on, the message sender subject and the 
first five lines of the email is automatically read out for you.  This 
is enough for me to normally decide if I need to press the delete key 
without even having to open the message.

In fact I can normally rely upon Preview rather than having to open messages
I think I may have set preview up to read the maximum as I really like 
this feature and  find it a time saver.

As I say
you do not have to listen to all of it just press delete or continue 
cursoing down to next message.


If I need to read the whole message I press VO J to read it and then VO 
J to jump back to the message  and continue cursoring down.


Since Yosemite you sometines have to press VO J 3 times on the first 
message you try to read.


The only real problem I have with Mail is the lack of a page down 
function for navigating long text emails.



David Griffith
The important thing to remember when moving down any table is to 
interact  first.
five lines of the email are read to me automatically - this is usually 
then VO J to have the mail read to me wiOn 25/01/2015 04:25, michael's 
mail boxl wrote:

Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like
who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum
at a time.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Ditto. Mail is not clunky at all and is the only client I have on here. I 
downloaded Microsoft Outlook for Mac as part of my office 365 subscription but 
have not installed it yet and don't know if I can be bothered .
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 03:59, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Actually mail is not clunky at all.  In fact it's faster to get around things 
> then it ever was. All you need to do is learn your navigation key strokes and 
> visuallise your space.  Vo j is your friend.
> 
> Tc.
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
>> find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by 
>> the way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.
>> 
>> If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
>> accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
>> more tempted by the minute to install and try it.
>> 
>> But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
>> Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!
>> 
>> I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
>> clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Lovette Yewchan" 
>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover
>> 
>> 
>>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
>>> busy a lot?
>>> Lovette
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
>>>> but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
>>>> that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
>>>> don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
>>>> some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
>>>> blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
>>>> arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
>>>> is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
>>>> nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
>>>> somewhere, there has got to be a way.
>>>> 
>>>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>>>> 
>>>> How can I fix this?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
If you do not interact with the table you can just press down arrow and you 
will hear every colomn in that particular row.

I personally sourt by date decending so I just hear the subject which for me 
makes things go faster.

Blessings.
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 8:25 PM, michael's mail boxl 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
> Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like 
> who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
> Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum 
> at a time.
> Cheers Michael.a 
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[Mac-access]: question about mail app.

2015-01-24 Thread michael&#x27;s mail boxl
Hi guys speeking about the mail app what I would like to know.
Is when i am in the table of all my emails can I have voiceover read like 
who sent it and subgject and the time all in 1 go.
Or do I have to keep pressing the right arrow each time to  hear each colum 
at a time.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
It might or might not depending on where you are place you in the body of the 
message, or it might place you in the message list. All you do then is simply 
it enter to open the message and cmd shift d, then hit tab to the to field and 
type in the email, hit enter to confirm it and hit cmd shift d.
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:49 PM, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> 
> okay. You just totally lost me.
> 
> are you trying to say that after sending a message with command shift D I 
> will be placed back in the current mailbox. are you saying that at this point 
> I could literally press command plus shift plus D again, and it would 
> automatically open up a new message with the same body as the last message 
> which I sent, allowing me to type in a new email address to send it to? if 
> so, that is awesome! I was definitely not aware of this. Nice discovery!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:37, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
>> versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person 
>> at a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
>>> done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
>>> Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press 
>>> the send command, shift-command-d, and you can "send again" as the command 
>>> suggests. Make your edits where appropriate, then hit the same keystroke to 
>>> send. How cool is that! I thought this was unique to Thunderbird but not 
>>> now.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually mail is not clunky at all.  In fact it's faster to get around things 
then it ever was. All you need to do is learn your navigation key strokes and 
visuallise your space.  Vo j is your friend.

Tc.
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
> find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by the 
> way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.
> 
> If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
> accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
> more tempted by the minute to install and try it.
> 
> But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
> Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!
> 
> I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
> clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Lovette Yewchan" 
> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover
> 
> 
>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
>> busy a lot?
>> Lovette
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
>>> frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that 
>>> is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't 
>>> come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
>>> members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
>>> e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
>>> called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
>>> under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
>>> this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
>>> has got to be a way.
>>> 
>>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> How can I fix this?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I guess it's just something I'll have to get used to.  

I personally hate it, but, whatever.

Chris.

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:36, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this 
> is because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst others 
> is indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a research 
> paper. You could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the text it says 
> to the clip board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting space o 
> something. I don't know as I personally like this and wish it were in more 
> apps so I could write my papers more effectivally as I deal with block quotes 
> a lot.
> 
> As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 
> 
> Blessings and happy Saturday
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
>> 
>> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
>> busy a lot?
>> Lovette
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
>>> frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that 
>>> is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't 
>>> come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
>>> members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
>>> e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
>>> called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
>>> under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
>>> this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
>>> has got to be a way.
>>> 
>>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> How can I fix this?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I don't think there is a way to do this. I think the reason it is doing this is 
because of the quoted text. Yours is all the way to the left whilst others is 
indented slightly in like a block quote you would find in a research paper. You 
could maybe make a custom activity where you copy the text it says to the clip 
board and have it replaced with nothing by hitting space o something. I don't 
know as I personally like this and wish it were in more apps so I could write 
my papers more effectivally as I deal with block quotes a lot.

As for mail going busy no issues here as of yet. 

Blessings and happy Saturday
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Lovette Yewchan  wrote:
> 
> I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
> busy a lot?
> Lovette
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
>> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
>> frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is 
>> that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come 
>> attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list 
>> members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my 
>> e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's 
>> called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked 
>> under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut 
>> this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there 
>> has got to be a way.
>> 
>> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
>> 
>> How can I fix this?
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Chris Gilland
okay. You just totally lost me.

are you trying to say that after sending a message with command shift D I will 
be placed back in the current mailbox. are you saying that at this point I 
could literally press command plus shift plus D again, and it would 
automatically open up a new message with the same body as the last message 
which I sent, allowing me to type in a new email address to send it to? if so, 
that is awesome! I was definitely not aware of this. Nice discovery!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 16:37, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
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> Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
> versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person 
> at a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually, I've been  doing this for about 4 years now in mail under all 
versions since 10.6 in 2010. This is how I often send to more then 1 person at 
a time with out dealing with serial mail if I'm doing just 2 or 3 people. 
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:35 AM, christopher hallsworth 
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> done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
No?  I've not found it to be busy frequently, if ever, but that said, I do 
find Mail now to be incredibly, and did I mention, incredibly! and oh, by 
the way, incredibly! clunky compared to before.


If it really is true that Office 365 subscribers as myself get access to an 
accessible mac version of Microsoft Outlook, then, I very well, am becoming 
more tempted by the minute to install and try it.


But, then, I'm probably not the person you wanna be talking to about 
Yosemite, as quite frankly, I hate it worth a passon!


I frankly, find Yosemite to be ridiculously sloppy, not to mention very 
clunky in general, but that's for another thread altogether.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Lovette Yewchan" 

To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover


I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail 
is busy a lot?

Lovette

On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 wrote:


On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, 
but frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and 
that is that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but 
don't come attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had 
some list members do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got 
blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of 
arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point 
is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see 
nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom verbosity settings or 
somewhere, there has got to be a way.


It didn't do this in Mavericks.

How can I fix this?

Chris.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Lovette Yewchan
I’dlike to know this as well and am wondering if others are finding mail is 
busy a lot?
Lovette
 
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote 
> level 0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but 
> frankly, I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is 
> that.  I'm sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come 
> attacking me cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list members 
> do that to me in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my e-mail real 
> quickly, as I don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's called 
> preferences for a reason, people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked under all 
> of the Voiceover verbosity settings, but I see nothing to shut this off.  
> Surely under the custom verbosity settings or somewhere, there has got to be 
> a way.
> 
> It didn't do this in Mavericks.
> 
> How can I fix this?
> 
> Chris.
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[Mac-access]: Irritating problem with Mail and Voiceover

2015-01-24 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
On my mac with Yosemite, I'm finding that often times, I hear block quote level 
0, or 1, etc. before certain text.  I know this could be helpful, but frankly, 
I really don't care to hear it.  Some may, but I don't, and that is that.  I'm 
sorry if some disagree with my choice of logic, but don't come attacking me 
cause I don't like things as you do.  I've had some list members do that to me 
in the past, and honestly, they got blocked on my e-mail real quickly, as I 
don't care to hear that bit of arguing.  It's called preferences for a reason, 
people.  Anyway, my point is, I've looked under all of the Voiceover verbosity 
settings, but I see nothing to shut this off.  Surely under the custom 
verbosity settings or somewhere, there has got to be a way.

It didn't do this in Mavericks.

How can I fix this?

Chris.
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[Mac-access]: Re-sending an email message under Mac Os X's Mail application

2015-01-24 Thread christopher hallsworth
Hi all,
I discovered a nifty feature in the Mail app for Mac Os X which can also be 
done in the Thunderbird app for at least Windows.
Want to send a message   to a different recipient? No problem! Just press the 
send command, shift-command-d, and you can "send again" as the command 
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Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually that does not work.  the hitting enter before opening the message. it 
works, but the thread/conversation will still be open . If you have a thread 
cmd r will not work unless you expand the thread with right arrow, down arrow 
to the message, hit cmd r, reply then hit left arrow to collapse the thread.
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
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> Hi
> 
> If you open the message by hitting enter on it, then reply to it, it will 
> return you to the message window upon sending the reply.  This is design 
> philosophy. The work-around is to close the message and then hit Command+R.  
> That will induce behaviour to want.
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> Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
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> an individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?
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Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I actually dont' mind it.  But this has changed since the sno lepard days where 
it would close. Ah well, just another change i guess. If you really want this 
back email accessibil...@apple.com and  voice your thoughts. 
> On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:55 AM, Eleanor Burke  
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Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Thanks Gorden. It works out same but I appreciate your explanatory reply and at 
least I now know it is not just me.
Eleanor

-original message-
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply
From: Gordon Smith 
Date: 15/01/2015 6:42 pm

Hi

If you open the message by hitting enter on it, then reply to it, it will 
return you to the message window upon sending the reply.  This is design 
philosophy. The work-around is to close the message and then hit Command+R.  
That will induce behaviour to want.

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On 15 Jan 2015, at 14:55, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
reply to an e-mail, the original e-mail does not close.  I have to actively 
close it with command W.  This I find strange, even if it is an e-mail from an 
individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?

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Re: [Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Gordon Smith
Hi

If you open the message by hitting enter on it, then reply to it, it will 
return you to the message window upon sending the reply.  This is design 
philosophy. The work-around is to close the message and then hit Command+R.  
That will induce behaviour to want.

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On 15 Jan 2015, at 14:55, Eleanor Burke  wrote:

Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
reply to an e-mail, the original e-mail does not close.  I have to actively 
close it with command W.  This I find strange, even if it is an e-mail from an 
individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?

Eleanor
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[Mac-access]: e-mail Closing on Reply

2015-01-15 Thread Eleanor Burke
Hi All, I know I have asked this before but I am still puzzled.  Whenever I 
reply to an e-mail, the original e-mail does not close.  I have to actively 
close it with command W.  This I find strange, even if it is an e-mail from an 
individual and not via an e-mail list.  Any ideas please?

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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-04 Thread Judy Pryor
In Mountain Lion you just need to press Command 1 to get the windows back in 
mail.  If you have read a message and do command w to close it and then do 
command w again you close that window.
Judy   
On 3 Jan 2015, at 23:12, Eleanor Martha Burke  
wrote:

> I have only been using the Mac for one year on and off, so I am unable to 
> answer that question.it happens to me also from time to time.it is no real 
> big deal once you are familiar with it,only takes about a minute to log out 
> and log back in or as Andy suggested the shortcut to quit the program
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Jan 2015, at 22:41, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> 
>> How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did to get 
>> there.
>> At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
>>> I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and then log 
>>> back in again and this clears it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because 
>>>> mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  
>>>> Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an 
>>>> item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I have only been using the Mac for one year on and off, so I am unable to 
answer that question.it happens to me also from time to time.it is no real big 
deal once you are familiar with it,only takes about a minute to log out and log 
back in or as Andy suggested the shortcut to quit the program



> On 3 Jan 2015, at 22:41, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did to get 
> there.
> At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
>> I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and then log 
>> back in again and this clears it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>> >
>> >    I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because 
>> > mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  
>> > Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an 
>> > item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Ann Byrne
How do I even get to a place where the program has no windowhat I did 
to get there.

At 04:35 PM 1/3/2015, you wrote:
I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and 
then log back in again and this clears it.




> On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>
>I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu 
i don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close 
the mail program??

>
> Thanks,
>
> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I see you were told about the forced quit,Isometimes log out and then log back 
in again and this clears it.



> On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
>I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
> is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
> and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
> shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Andy Collins
A handy quick way to get to force quit is with the keystroke Command Options 
Escape -

Andy
> On 3 Jan 2015, at 21:43, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
>I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
> is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
> and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
> shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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Re: [Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread John Panarese
  From the Apple menu, arrow down to, Force Quit.  Then, select Mail from the 
table and confirm you want to force quit it.


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> On Jan 3, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
>I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down because mail 
> is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no windows'.  Command-w 
> and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i don't find an item to force 
> shutdown for mail.  How do I close the mail program??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ann
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[Mac-access]: mail has no windows

2015-01-03 Thread Ann Byrne
I am trying to shut down the Mac, but it won't shut down 
because mail is open.  When I alt-tab to mail it says 'mail has no 
windows'.  Command-w and command-q are dimmed.  In the context menu i 
don't find an item to force shutdown for mail.  How do I close the 
mail program??


Thanks,

Ann

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[Mac-access]: Help setting up mac-Access mail account

2014-12-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

I’m having trouble setting up Mac-Accesss  in mail on my new iPad.

I suspect i’m messing up the out going and in coming server names.

Can someone tell me exactly what to place in those fields?

I’m looking at my mac to get the info but I don’t seem to be able to get it 
right.  also my account was set up several years ago so perhaps I need updated 
info now that mac-Access has been updated.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Mail with Yosemite

2014-12-08 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Hmm Email accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> and express 
your concern. Hurry though as they will probably start working on the next os 
and alpha testing in January.
> On Dec 8, 2014, at 4:05 AM, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> 
> Clean installs of 10.10.1 on 2 different Macs here have yielded no love with 
> VO+J in either Finder or Mail in Classic view. I wonder what might be 
> different between our systems.
> 
> Interestingly, it seems to be the sidebar VO+J has an aversion to. If I show 
> the path bar in Finder, VO+J will reliably hop back and forth between the 
> list of applications and the path bar, and if I have the preview pane showing 
> in Mail’s classic view, VO+J will gladly hop between the message list and the 
> preview pane; however, if the path bar and preview pane are hidden, VO+J will 
> jump from the sidebar to the file list or message list but will not hop back.
> 
> On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:57 AM, Fred Smith  wrote:
>> After much frustration with the vo j command, I had the hard disk on my 
>> macbok air erased, followed by a clean install of Yosemite, and now the 
>> command works perfectly, at least in Mail and the Finder. So, if anyone is 
>> having the same problem, it's worth persevering -- it can work in Yosemite.
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Re: [Mac-access]: Mail with Yosemite

2014-12-08 Thread Bryan Jones
Clean installs of 10.10.1 on 2 different Macs here have yielded no love with 
VO+J in either Finder or Mail in Classic view. I wonder what might be different 
between our systems.

Interestingly, it seems to be the sidebar VO+J has an aversion to. If I show 
the path bar in Finder, VO+J will reliably hop back and forth between the list 
of applications and the path bar, and if I have the preview pane showing in 
Mail’s classic view, VO+J will gladly hop between the message list and the 
preview pane; however, if the path bar and preview pane are hidden, VO+J will 
jump from the sidebar to the file list or message list but will not hop back.

On Dec 8, 2014, at 3:57 AM, Fred Smith  wrote:
> After much frustration with the vo j command, I had the hard disk on my 
> macbok air erased, followed by a clean install of Yosemite, and now the 
> command works perfectly, at least in Mail and the Finder. So, if anyone is 
> having the same problem, it's worth persevering -- it can work in Yosemite.

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Re: [Mac-access]: Mail with Yosemite

2014-12-08 Thread Fred Smith


After much frustration with the vo j command, I had the hard disk on my 
macbok air erased, followed by a clean install of Yosemite, and now the 
command works perfectly, at least in Mail and the Finder. So, if anyone 
is having the same problem, it's worth persevering -- it can work in 
Yosemite.


Fred


On 1/12/2014 6:50 p.m., Donald Bishop wrote:

I’m using a similar setup with mail in classic view.  When I go down my list of 
mailboxes I can use vo j to move to the list of messages.  However, when I want 
to go back to the mailbox list, vo j does nothing.  It used to work moving both 
ways in mavericks.

Don



On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Fred Smith  wrote:

Thanks -- I tried repairing disk permissions, and restarting, but the VO-j jump 
comand still doesn't work. And yes, the finder is in list mode. Does anyone 
have any other ideas on how to make this very useful feature work properly?

Thanks again,
Fred.



On 30/11/2014 10:06 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Try a permissions repair. On the finder make sure you are in list view. I 
normally write longer messages but it's pretty late here and I'm extremely 
tired.


Hth and blessings.

On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:46 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:

I'm just setting up a new macbook air, running Yosemite, and I've struck a 
problem with mail. I prefer to use classic view, and on my old machine, running 
Mountain Lion, I use the jump command (VO j) as a quick way to jump between the 
mailboxes list and the messages table. But with the new machine, this no longer 
works, and VO j does nothing at all. As far as I can tell, all the mail 
settings and Voiceover settings are the same on both machines. Has the VO j 
command been removed, is this a bug, or have I just missed a vital setting? Any 
suggestions welcome.

PS: The problem isn't confined to mail -- though that's the biggest issue for 
me. On the new machine, the jump command isn't working in the finder either.

Thanks,
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[Mac-access]: would any one be able to give me instructions on how to create a mfave mail box

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Re: [Mac-access]: Not getting mail on Mac

2014-12-02 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Try re-adding your accounts. I don't know if that will fix, but it's worth a 
try.
> On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Juanita Martin  wrote:
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> All of a sudden, I’m not getting mail on the MBA.  This started happening 
> after I installed Yosemite but it seemed to have stabilized until this 
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[Mac-access]: Not getting mail on Mac

2014-12-02 Thread Juanita Martin
All of a sudden, I’m not getting mail on the MBA.  This started happening after 
I installed Yosemite but it seemed to have stabilized until this morning;  I 
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Mac.  How do I fix this?  
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Re: [Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Very odd. I've never heard of somethign like this.  well hopefully you get some 
more suggestions on the list as to what to do from here.
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
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> Thanks, I will although they don’t go into the deleted folder in Outlook.
> 
> Thanks
> Richard Bartholomew
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2014, at 23:15, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting. It's probably not your mac. Check your server settings to see 
>> that you don't have an option checked to do such.
>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hmmm…yes, when I read back over it, I see what you mean! 
>>> 
>>> For one of my accounts, instead of the mail going into the inbox, it’s 
>>> going straight into trash!  I’ve looked at the settings and nothing seems 
>>> particularly untoward there!  Any ideas what may be going on, please?
>>> 
>>> Hope this message doesn’t get chewed up this time!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any help.
>>> Richard Bartholomew
>>> 
>>>> On 1 Dec 2014, at 22:49, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What problem are you having?  You did not exactly state what it was, 
>>>> unless I missed it.
>>>> 
>>>> Blessings.
>>>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in 
>>>>> there though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
>>>>> straight into the trash rather than inbox!  
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Re: [Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Bartholomew
Thanks, I will although they don’t go into the deleted folder in Outlook.

Thanks
Richard Bartholomew

> On 1 Dec 2014, at 23:15, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. It's probably not your mac. Check your server settings to see 
> that you don't have an option checked to do such.
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hmmm…yes, when I read back over it, I see what you mean! 
>> 
>> For one of my accounts, instead of the mail going into the inbox, it’s going 
>> straight into trash!  I’ve looked at the settings and nothing seems 
>> particularly untoward there!  Any ideas what may be going on, please?
>> 
>> Hope this message doesn’t get chewed up this time!
>> 
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Richard Bartholomew
>> 
>>> On 1 Dec 2014, at 22:49, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What problem are you having?  You did not exactly state what it was, unless 
>>> I missed it.
>>> 
>>> Blessings.
>>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in 
>>>> there though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
>>>> straight into the trash rather than inbox!  
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Re: [Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Interesting. It's probably not your mac. Check your server settings to see that 
you don't have an option checked to do such.
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Hmmm…yes, when I read back over it, I see what you mean! 
> 
> For one of my accounts, instead of the mail going into the inbox, it’s going 
> straight into trash!  I’ve looked at the settings and nothing seems 
> particularly untoward there!  Any ideas what may be going on, please?
> 
> Hope this message doesn’t get chewed up this time!
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> Richard Bartholomew
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2014, at 22:49, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
>> 
>> What problem are you having?  You did not exactly state what it was, unless 
>> I missed it.
>> 
>> Blessings.
>>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in there 
>>> though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  
>>> 
>>> Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
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Re: [Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Bartholomew
Hi,

Hmmm…yes, when I read back over it, I see what you mean! 

For one of my accounts, instead of the mail going into the inbox, it’s going 
straight into trash!  I’ve looked at the settings and nothing seems 
particularly untoward there!  Any ideas what may be going on, please?

Hope this message doesn’t get chewed up this time!

Thanks for any help.
Richard Bartholomew

> On 1 Dec 2014, at 22:49, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> What problem are you having?  You did not exactly state what it was, unless I 
> missed it.
> 
> Blessings.
>> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in there 
>> though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  
>> 
>> Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
>> straight into the trash rather than inbox!  
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Re: [Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Sarah k Alawami
What problem are you having?  You did not exactly state what it was, unless I 
missed it.

Blessings.
> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Richard Bartholomew 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in there 
> though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  
> 
> Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?
> 
> Thanks
> Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
> straight into the trash rather than inbox!  
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[Mac-access]: E-MAIL ACCOUNT

2014-12-01 Thread Richard Bartholomew
Hi,

I’ve looked at the mailbox settings and nothing seems out of order in there 
though, as a new Mac user, I fully expect I’ve missed something.  

Anyone got any ideas, please, as to why this is happening?

Thanks
Richard BartholomewWith one of my mail accounts, the incoming mail goes 
straight into the trash rather than inbox!  
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Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client

2014-12-01 Thread matthew dyer
Hey  why am I told that safari can’t find the server when clicking on the link? 
 Thanks.


> On Nov 30, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Sarah k Alawami  wrote:
> 
> go to classic view. it works better then the what I like to call modern view. 
>  I discuss this in my mail part of the yosemite bundle at http://tffppodcast 
> <http://tffppodcast/>.com/premium
>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
>> 
>> hello everyone!
>> Question: I’m running the latest Mac OS, and overtime I open my mail client 
>> opens to my first email dating back to 2008.  However, mail client check box 
>> is setup to display recent emails on top.  
>> 
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Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client

2014-12-01 Thread Eleanor Martha Burke
I think the Mod should post the list guidelines which prohibit David's 
podcast links, that's all.


Eleanor
- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Halton" 

To: "Mac Access iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client


That’s quite a good point elanor. Especially since there is a profit motive 
involved with this link - I don’t think Sarah is giving her podcast  away. A 
double standard perhaps?



On Nov 30, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:


Forgive me, I am not being rude but how come you are permitted to share a 
link with us and David Griffith is not permitted to share his brilliant 
podcasts links?  I am sure there is some perfectly logic reason and as I 
say no offence meant.


Eleanor
- Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client


go to classic view. it works better then the what I like to call modern 
view.  I discuss this in my mail part of the yosemite bundle at 
http://tffppodcast <http://tffppodcast/>.com/premium

On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Ismael Herrera  wrote:

hello everyone!
Question: I’m running the latest Mac OS, and overtime I open my mail 
client opens to my first email dating back to 2008.  However, mail 
client check box is setup to display recent emails on top.


Has anyone experience similar problem?  If so, how do you fix it?
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Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client

2014-12-01 Thread Phil Halton
That’s quite a good point elanor. Especially since there is a profit motive 
involved with this link - I don’t think Sarah is giving her podcast  away. A 
double standard perhaps?


On Nov 30, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
 wrote:

> Forgive me, I am not being rude but how come you are permitted to share a 
> link with us and David Griffith is not permitted to share his brilliant 
> podcasts links?  I am sure there is some perfectly logic reason and as I say 
> no offence meant.
> 
> Eleanor
> - Original Message - From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "mac access list iOS Accessibility" 
> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: Yosemite mail client
> 
> 
>> go to classic view. it works better then the what I like to call modern 
>> view.  I discuss this in my mail part of the yosemite bundle at 
>> http://tffppodcast <http://tffppodcast/>.com/premium
>>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Ismael Herrera  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello everyone!
>>> Question: I’m running the latest Mac OS, and overtime I open my mail client 
>>> opens to my first email dating back to 2008.  However, mail client check 
>>> box is setup to display recent emails on top.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone experience similar problem?  If so, how do you fix it?
>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net --->
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