RE: MI MapInfo 6.0 release announced!
Hmmm... I have to agree with most of your comments, but not the AV comparison. First, you can't even save a color/style with an actual map object in AV - it has to be thematically driven. Second, in AV, 2click on layer legend to get Legend Editor, then 2click on specific legend item to get color palette, then click on fill palette to set fill pattern, then click apply, then click on paintbrush to get color styles, the select foreground from drop down menu, then select color, then hit apply, then select background from menu, then color, then apply, then outline from menu, then color, then apply, then 'X' to close color palette, then 'X' to close legend editor. Thats a lot of clicking. The grass is always greener... P.S. I still do agree it can be done better, and CorelDraw 9 has it down. Will Mitchell GIS Manager The Environmental Company, Inc. 2496 Old Ivy Rd Charlottesville, VA 22905 ph 804.295.4446 fx 804.295.4435 http://www.tecinc.com -Original Message- Coming from AV, I lamented the difficulty of doing the simplest things like change a color. I thought I would eventually go blind scrolling through all of the layers in the layer control and then going through the dialogue boxes. What in AV takes 2-3 clicks takes 5-7 in MI. -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI MapInfo 6.0 release announced!
At 12:49 PM 5/2/00 -0400, Mitchell, Will wrote: Hmmm... I have to agree with most of your comments, but not the AV comparison. First, you can't even save a color/style with an actual map object in AV - it has to be thematically driven. I'm currently building components for a map authoring tool but this as no connection with neither MapInfo nor ArcView. But I'm pretty interested in you opinions, as end-users on what a "property editor" should look like ! I sure didn't thought about "the amount of clicks" required to set properties of a layer. Do people prefer simple pop-up menus or Dialogs ?? Any suggestions would be appreciated ! Best regards to all Raymond Raymond Rivest Global Geomatics Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MI MapInfo 6.0 release announced!
I agree with the previous posts by Brad and Scott. Reading them I realized how much I'd gotten used to over the course of the last year and a half with MapInfo Pro. Coming from AV, I lamented the difficulty of doing the simplest things like change a color. I thought I would eventually go blind scrolling through all of the layers in the layer control and then going through the dialogue boxes. What in AV takes 2-3 clicks takes 5-7 in MI. Personally, "database support and awesome 3-d viewing" don't mean much to me if, just to make a good looking 2d map, I do most of the layout work in Corel or Illustrator, because I don't want the extra time and grey hair it seems to take to make a good hardcopy map with MapInfo. If a lot of the very basics of desktop GIS are so lacking in MapInfo, why should I get excited over "awesome 3-d viewing?" The price of an upgrade isn't exactly a bargain, and at this point I'm not even going to bother, unless I hear something in this forum about how much easier it is to work with. I agree with Scott the the interface needs a big makeover. __ Admittedly i'd like to see some features added to the layout window. Something a like 'snap to grid' or 'snap to guidelines' options to make it easier to produce tidy workspaces (they could take some cues from packages like CorelDRAW or Adobe Illustrator) As for fixing things, i believe the whole interface could do with a make-over. Some simple opertations take 10-15 mouse clicks to achieved (e.g. change the display style of lines in a layer) Surely this could be achieve in far fewer clicks. Some floating pallettes that allowed you to change properties would be a god-send (Pick object, Select colour, click 'APPLY' = 3 clicks) instead of the need to burrow down 4-5 levels of dialog boxes just to change a colour. Do any of the mapinfo developers listen to this forum? Brad Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/5/00 10:36:41 am All, One of Mapinfo's biggest problems in the past has been its focus on adding new features instead of fixing the ones it already has. Four years later, I am still waiting for a serious printing bug from version 4.0 to be fixed (maybe they finally did it in v6 but I am not holding my breath). - Brad -- To unsubscribe from this list, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "unsubscribe MAPINFO-L" in the message body, or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MI MapInfo 6.0 release announced!!!
I agree with most of the comments that have been made and I don't want this to be a debate on which one is better as I do use both MapInfo and AV in my office. But as far as ArcView comments go I have to disagree. First I find that most people that say that AV is better, are doing programing with avenue or they are surfing the ESRI site for a scripts. If these people are saying that you only have to do 2-3 clicks to change colors then they have written or download a script to make that happen. Tony had a more accurate description of that procedure . Grant you, MapInfo has MapBasic but you do not have to use it to do simple things like update a column or change a column name in your database or just putting lat/long to your points into your database. So I think it is what you are going to use it for and if you are do things on a repetitive bases. MI lets you save those things that you do over and over again and I think that makes my job easier and I can get a map out a lot faster. The New 3D feature I don't think I would use and I would rather they had spent their time on developing the Topology Manager Donna Glover California Department of Water Resources Emergency Response Section Division of Flood Management [EMAIL PROTECTED]