Re: [MBZ] plain text - was: R107 wheel upgrades

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 8, 2013, at 12:52 AM, "Fmiser"  wrote:

> Say - Kaleb.  Why do you have it limited to 40k?  Set it to,
> say, 200k and it would allow us a bit more room to attach stuff.


Are you sure? You are on dial up (or some limited bandwidth Internet 
connection). There was no size limit for a while initially, and several people 
were very vocal about their displeasure of it. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] NA Diesels in higher altitude was Re: Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars

[Fmiser]

> David Bruckmann wrote:

> The ADA was introduced with the 617.912 in the W123.

It was also used on the 4 cylinder OM616.  My W123s with OM616
engines all have ADAs.

The turbo OM617.95 engines got the ALDA.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Plain text - was: OT a little light reading on injection

[Fmiser]

> Jerry Herrman wrote:

> Now. I just created something else I'm curious about. As I
> typed this out, I copied and pasted, which caused my page to
> have several sizes of print. I am wondering if, when it get
> appears in the forum, the print size will be uniform, or if it
> will print with various sizes.

This email list strip off all extra and leaves only plain text.

Plain text has no formating, size, font, color [colour], or
style.  It is just the text.

So your post views just fine!

This is also why Clay's photo didn't show up.  It wasn't text so
it was removed.

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Re: [MBZ] NA Diesels in higher altitude was Re: Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars

[Fmiser]

> Brian Toscano wrote:

> NA engines lose 4% of power for every 1000 ft above sea.  In
> Fort Collins you'd be down 20%.  Turbo/super charged engines
> aren't affected as much - maybe 10% total loss even at 10,000
> ft.

After the turbo spools up.  I drove a W123 turbo to the top of
Pike's Peak at over 14,000 ft [4270 m] altitude.  The car hardly
had enough power to move it's shadow until the turbo wound up -
then it felt normal.  But the transition was pretty abrupt!

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Re: [MBZ] plain text - was: R107 wheel upgrades

[Fmiser]

> > clay monroe wrote:
> >
> > I am not overly happy about the solution myself.  I fear it
> > will end up like this
> > 
> > 
> > 


> clay monroe wrote:

> why U strip out my pixture?

Because it isn't text.  The list is plain text only.  HTML is
required to put an image "in line" so it shows up in the middle
of the words.  That is removed when the list software re-mails
the post.  If the photos is attached, and is less than 40k (I
think), it will pass through.  Bigger and Kaleb has to approve
it.

Say - Kaleb.  Why do you have it limited to 40k?  Set it to,
say, 200k and it would allow us a bit more room to attach stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Timing chain replacement advice

[Fmiser]

> > dseretakis wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Peter. Do you think that fancy tool is worth it?

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Attached is a picture of a cheap version of the fancy tool
> someone on the list made sometime on the past.
> 
> I'll let others comment on its efficacy and appropriateness.

Hey!  That looks like mine! 

Oh - it _is_ mine.  heh.

It worked well for me.  Still have it, ready for the next car.
I was able to do the job by my self.

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Re: [MBZ] Headlight and rear window Washers

[Hendrik and fay]

No sorry Oz versions only, drivers too stupid/lazy to put on rear wiper.
Speaking of Oz Mercs 
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/merrylands/cars-vans-utes/1967-mercedes-benz-250-coupe/1012048473 
easy fixer uppererer.


Hendrik
who has not needed the wipers on for a while

On 08/01/13 14:45, Craig wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:02:54 +1030 Hendrik and fay 
wrote:


And on the wagons the rear wiper comes automatically if you have the
wipers on and put it in reverse.

Interesting!


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Headlight and rear window Washers

[Craig]

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:02:54 +1030 Hendrik and fay 
wrote:

> And on the wagons the rear wiper comes automatically if you have the 
> wipers on and put it in reverse.

Interesting!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 10 Cars You Can Bet Will Be Classics (NOW HAS DEJECTED BENZ CONTENT)

[Hendrik and fay]

Your best would be to cross reference Bosch part numbers.
For instance Rogers favourite car, the 944 uses an Audi/VW engine, so 
you can go to Porsche to get bits or go to VW and get the same bits in a 
VW box.


Hendrik
who gets most of his bits for trade price, still too much but it helps

On 08/01/13 14:15, clay monroe wrote:

I wish I could find the dang D-jet injectors for Froggy at a reasonable price.  
I have 8 to care for.  Even Q has been struck by the price increase.  Anybody 
know if the R107 injectors are the same as used in Volvo?  IT would be totally 
cool if they were the same.  I got the pair from fleabay, but they do not look 
to be the same as what is in the car.

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Re: [MBZ] 10 Cars You Can Bet Will Be Classics (NOW HAS BENZ CONTENT)

[clay monroe]

I wish I could find the dang D-jet injectors for Froggy at a reasonable price.  
I have 8 to care for.  Even Q has been struck by the price increase.  Anybody 
know if the R107 injectors are the same as used in Volvo?  IT would be totally 
cool if they were the same.  I got the pair from fleabay, but they do not look 
to be the same as what is in the car.

clay


On Jan 7, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

>> Another one of these "I have a deadline to write an article so will make up 
>> a top 10 lists, for internet geeks to argue over till the cows come home". 
>> Once I saw that the Fiat had made the list I lost all interest.
>> Hey this one has 25 
>> http://www.complex.com/rides/2012/12/the-25-coolest-mercedes-benzes-in-movies/#gallery
>> Technically once a car has been out of production for 20 years it is a 
>> classic.
>> 
>> Hendrik
>> whose 124 still has three years till classic status
> 
> According to MB, 123s are classic status, that is relegated to the classic 
> center and the 123 only and older parts prices are thus doubled, tripled or 
> quadrupled in price.  124 and 126 are soon to follow.  If not for Q, we might 
> not be able to justify parts prices.
> 
> My 124 and 126s are officially "antiques" and have "antique" license plates.  
>  The good thing is that for the $25, they are licensed forever. unless 
> they have to move to another state.
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Re: [MBZ] Headlight and rear window Washers

[Hendrik and fay]

And on the wagons the rear wiper comes automatically if you have the 
wipers on and put it in reverse.


Hendrik
whose rear wipers work

On 07/01/13 12:24, Dan Penoff wrote:

The headlight washers on many models typically only worked when both the 
headlights were on  and windshield washers were actuated.

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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Rick Knoble]

On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:06 AM, "Donald Snook"  wrote:

> There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots.  So, which brands of boots 
> would be worth buying to resell?


Stewart's. 

http://stewartbootcompany.com/

Possibly Frye. 

http://www.thefryecompany.com/

I'm sure there are others. I have personal experience with these. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair - wristwatches?

[Peter Frederick]

My favorites are the 21 jewel watches by Bulova (Swiss made) and Elgin  
from the 40's and 50's.  I have a couple that can keep time to a  
second a day when worn, very nice watches indeed.


Snap back cases, though, so NO water -- in fact, no sweat, either --  
so they are dress only, but very nice.


Especially when I can get a gold filled sterling silver cased one for  
$12 on Ebay that only needs a new mainspring and a cleaning to run  
like new.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Gassing/petroling up

[Hendrik and fay]

So you've been taking pictures of petrol stations for a while then?

Hendrik
who goes to service stations and gets just about zero servic

On 06/01/13 14:44, relng...@aol.com wrote:

http://hipspics.freewebspace.com/gas/gas.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rear door panel R/R

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Hah.  Thanks - looks doable.

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel
 wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
>> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>>
>>> My friend needs to repair the locking mechanism on his 1999 E320.
>>> Anyone know how to remove the RR door panel?  Looks a lot different
>>> from my 123 wagon...
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsTTU0zLdI
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Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 rear door panel R/R

[Andrew Strasfogel]

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>
>> My friend needs to repair the locking mechanism on his 1999 E320.
>> Anyone know how to remove the RR door panel?  Looks a lot different
>> from my 123 wagon...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxsTTU0zLdI
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Re: [MBZ] Magnetic Tools

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Brilliant!

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:23 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> Clean it once, really well, then cover the end with simple masking tape. It
> doesn't have to be elegant, just put tape over the magnet area. The magnet
> will still work just fine, can even be immersed into oil if need be. When
> it gets "metal fuzz".. peel the tape off and replace it with fresh..
>
> Your welcome, ;))
>
> Grant...
> AZ
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Larry T  wrote:
>
>> Some of my tools have magnetic areas to use for holding stuff, etc.
>> Unfortunately, the magnetic end up picking up every bit of metallic "fuzz"
>> they get close to - drilling shavings, grinding filings, and on and on all
>> seem to end up on the metallic "helpers".
>>
>> Is there a easy (semi-easy) way to get the metallic lint off? I've tried
>> using paper towels, rags, etc and it ends up being a exercise in
>> frustration.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thx
>> LarryT
>> 74 911
>> 66 MGB
>> 91 300D
>> Etc.
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime scolds

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Just making the same argument I always do...  What does this have to do
with this list?


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 7:52 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be
> > involved
> > in...
> >
> Hmm. Didn't you just last week get yourself into a big flap on Banned and
> stomp off in a snit, quitting the list?
>
> RLE
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] High Comand

[Hendrik and fay]

Not so much a question of catching up but more of a reluctance to 
install something which might distract the driver, like cup holders.


Hendrik
who is not allowed to use mobile phone whilst driving but can fiddle 
with sat nav/radio/etc


On 06/01/13 11:21, relng...@aol.com wrote:

...I am not sure I know what "comand" climate control is.  Are there
different types of climate control with different models?  Sorry if its a dumb
question...


Comand was MB's first version navigation system and perhaps the HVAC
functions were displayed on the screen. Jaime knows all about this. As a nav
system, it was DVD based and far from user friendly.   An improved (very
slightly) version showed up in the W211 but was still inferior to the
competition's..
My 2008 W204's Comand (part of the Multimedia Package) is much better but
has already been replaced by something else in the 2012 models. MB is still
playing catch-up.

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Re: [MBZ] 10 Cars You Can Bet Will Be Classics (NOW HAS BENZ CONTENT)

[Dieselhead]

Another one of these "I have a deadline to write an article so will 
make up a top 10 lists, for internet geeks to argue over till the 
cows come home". Once I saw that the Fiat had made the list I lost 
all interest.
Hey this one has 25 
http://www.complex.com/rides/2012/12/the-25-coolest-mercedes-benzes-in-movies/#gallery
Technically once a car has been out of production for 20 years it is 
a classic.


Hendrik
whose 124 still has three years till classic status


According to MB, 123s are classic status, that is relegated to the 
classic center and the 123 only and older parts prices are thus 
doubled, tripled or quadrupled in price.  124 and 126 are soon to 
follow.  If not for Q, we might not be able to justify parts prices.


My 124 and 126s are officially "antiques" and have "antique" license 
plates.   The good thing is that for the $25, they are licensed 
forever. unless they have to move to another state.


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Re: [MBZ] 10 Cars You Can Bet Will Be Classics (NOW HAS BENZ CONTENT)

[Hendrik and fay]

Another one of these "I have a deadline to write an article so will make 
up a top 10 lists, for internet geeks to argue over till the cows come 
home". Once I saw that the Fiat had made the list I lost all interest.
Hey this one has 25 
http://www.complex.com/rides/2012/12/the-25-coolest-mercedes-benzes-in-movies/#gallery
Technically once a car has been out of production for 20 years it is a 
classic.


Hendrik
whose 124 still has three years till classic status

On 06/01/13 02:26, Rich Thomas wrote:
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/11/10-cars-you-can-bet-will-be-classics/?pid=378&viewall=true 



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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[Mitch Haley]

Brian Toscano wrote:

Is it true that perch rust only occurs in
2WD models?


Yep. The spring perch is the upper spring seat, right above the control arm.
Now imagine a drive shaft going out to the hub, right through the middle of that 
spring. Obviously, the spring has to go elsewhere.


The 4MATIC models have the springs over the damper struts to make room for the 
half shafts.


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[MBZ] OT shoes and repair - wristwatches?

[Mountain Man]

How about wristwatches for quality items?
Richarde used to have a watch email list at mbz.org - that was a fun time.
I grew to like the european stuff, primarily mechanical movements
mostly vintage.
How about this wristwatch for nice german mechanical craftmanship - EZM-1:
http://members.chello.nl/~h.mennink/watches/_private/SinnEZM1.htm
http://www.broadarrow.net/ezm1.htm

The swiss, of course, are the movement makers of renown, although,
there are good russian and chinese mechanical movements also.
I like this vintage french aviator wristwatch:
http://www.qahill.com/tz/type20/type20.html
The Type 20/21 chronograph movement is true flyback - retour en vol.
It requires one press to reset and restart the timing of the aviation
leg.  Not many watches have that.  The panel clock by Mathey-Tissot
Type 12 is also true flyback.

Ok - that is a beginning.
I bet we can drag this out like the shoes or bread thread.
Begin the fun.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[OK Don]

I'm north of OKC - but one of th stores is near my daughter's place, so not
out of the way. I'll check it out next time we head that way - thanks!

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> I notice SAS stores in Okie City, Moore, Seminole, Duncan, Tulsa; 'don't
> know where else.  'Forgot where you live.  If store too far, call store and
> have 'em sent.
>
> Wilton
>

OK Don
2001 ML320
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] This is interesting: W201 with OM603 and 5 Speed

[Dieselhead]

Its even a good color.



Conversions like this usually make me cringe thinking about all the parts
that might have be hacked or rigged to make it work.  But its still a neat
idea!  I'd love to see some pictures.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/3527726040.html

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] 50 CAR PORSCHE COLLECTION

[WILTON]

BTW, I didn't see them; neurologist saw them.
Thanks for the info.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 50 CAR PORSCHE COLLECTION


In re: Wilton's museum visit last week, I sent an email to my friend PR
asking if this might be the people he sold his '67 911S to and here is his
reply"

Roger,

It was the Ingram Collection in North Carolina.

You know the son as The Road Scholars and The Air Cooled Guys companies.
They are the best early Porsche restoration people in the country today by
winning everywhere and the factory is sending them cars to restore for the
personal collections of the family. Cam and his girlfriend were invited for
Peter's (Porsche) 70th birthday and the company paid their way, etc. They
were one of the very few that were from the US that were not execs in the
company. They are also brokers now on Porsches. It is Cam Ingram and Kevin
Watts that own the above companies. They are also personal friends and I
sometime advise Cam on earlies (ex. engine finishes on the Gmund coupe for 
Peter

in 2011) and help Kevin from time to time. Right now he is helping me find a
993 that is in excellent shape for a driver for me.

However, the father Bob Imgram and his wife have the collection of around
50+ cars along with other things in a private museum that is excellent in a
building they built for the purpose. All are either extremely low miles
and/or top winners in the country. They primarily collect Porsches (Bob) and
Ferraris (wife), but have others as well. They were the ones that brought
those 16+ high end cars to the Charlotte Parade. Wealth isn't even the word
here. It is old money down south.

Paul
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime scolds

[Brian Toscano]

Glad email has auto-delete so I don't have to read anymore
relng...@aol.com



On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM,  wrote:

>
> LOL
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
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>
> > ...Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be
> > involved
> > in...
> >
> Hmm. Didn't you just last week get yourself into a big flap on Banned and
> stomp off in a snit, quitting the list?
>
> RLE
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime scolds

[buymbparts]

LOL


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> ...Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be 
> involved
> in...
> 
Hmm. Didn't you just last week get yourself into a big flap on Banned and 
stomp off in a snit, quitting the list?

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime scolds

[RELNGSON]

> ...Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be 
> involved
> in...
> 
Hmm. Didn't you just last week get yourself into a big flap on Banned and 
stomp off in a snit, quitting the list?

RLE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 50 CAR PORSCHE COLLECTION

[RELNGSON]

In re: Wilton's museum visit last week, I sent an email to my friend PR 
asking if this might be the people he sold his '67 911S to and here is his 
reply"

Roger,

It was the Ingram Collection in North Carolina.

You know the son as The Road Scholars and The Air Cooled Guys companies.  
They are the best early Porsche restoration people in the country today by 
winning everywhere and the factory is sending them cars to restore for the 
personal collections of the family.  Cam and his girlfriend were invited for 
Peter's (Porsche) 70th birthday and the company paid their way, etc.  They 
were one of the very few that were from the US that were not execs in the 
company.  They are also brokers now on Porsches.  It is Cam Ingram and Kevin 
Watts that own the above companies.  They are also personal friends and I 
sometime advise Cam on earlies (ex. engine finishes on the Gmund coupe for 
Peter 
in 2011) and help Kevin from time to time.  Right now he is helping me find a 
993 that is in excellent shape for a driver for me.

However, the father Bob Imgram and his wife have the collection of around 
50+ cars along with other things in a private museum that is excellent in a 
building they built for the purpose.   All are either extremely low miles 
and/or top winners in the country.  They primarily collect Porsches (Bob) and 
Ferraris (wife), but have others as well.  They were the ones that brought 
those 16+ high end cars to the Charlotte Parade. Wealth isn't even the word 
here.  It is old money down south.

Paul
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Jaime Kopchinski]

I'm joining this late, but I'm also a fan of high quality shoes for the
same reason.  A shoemaker can breathe new life into them and they last for
years and years.

I'm a huge fan of Lloyd shoes from Germany.  Until recently, I was only
able to buy them in Europe, but there is a shoe store in Pittsburgh that
sells them now:
http://bondstreetshoes.com/

Last pair I bought was on sale for about $150, which is a real steal!  I
think I paid over 200EUR for the previous pair.

Here is a good example of an excellent shoe on sale:
http://bondstreetshoes.com/store/fairbanks

Enjoy,
Jaime



On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:

> I get the feeling a lot of us on this list appreciate quality products
> even if they cost more but last longer. Why else would so many hang on to
> 10 or 20 year old Mercedes.  I wear dress shoes everyday and have finally
> discovered that more expensive shoes are worth it. But, with leather soles
> they wear out. I just dropped off my favorite Cole Haan shoes for soles and
> heels it was $65. That seems steep. But, they were the most expensive and
> most comfortable dress shoes I have ever had. I went ahead and had them do
> it.
>
> Anyone have other suggestions for great well made dress shoes that are
> worth repairing and keeping for years?  I want some Allen Edmonds, but I'm
> not willing to pay $350 for them at least not yet!
>
> Donald H. Snook
>
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[MBZ] This is interesting: W201 with OM603 and 5 Speed

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Conversions like this usually make me cringe thinking about all the parts
that might have be hacked or rigged to make it work.  But its still a neat
idea!  I'd love to see some pictures.

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/3527726040.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[clay monroe]

Old shoes are a big industry for the local africans.  The goodwill has an 
outlet store.  All the stuff that was not moving at the retail locations or not 
up to par for putting on the shelf.  Massive rolling bins of clothing, shoes, 
toys, what ever.  The africans descend upon the shoes and fill 25 bushel trolly 
carts with them.  Then they go off into a corner, sort them, and dump the 
rejects back in the bin.  There are at least a half dozen of these guys there 
every day.  Yammering into their cell phones in loud voices, shoving and being 
rude.

The books are attacked by the hipsters and old men.  Both have smart phones 
with specialized ISBN scanners.  Same assault on the bin, fill the trolly and 
sort the books.  Pretty fast, as they scan, toss, and grab another.  Probably 
keep a dozen of the hundreds they initially took.

Seattle Goodwill Industries has gone upscale and now have dedicated goodies 
identifying staff.  They look at just about everything that used to hit the in 
store boutique.  If it is old, or interesting, it will not ever hit the retail 
floor.  Goes to the Online Sales wing, which researches, and posts it to 
fleabay.  They are making a mint. Opening bids are $9.99,  unless they know it 
is worth much more, then it goes up for lowest accepted appraised value.  There 
was a Dali sketch, maybe 3x5", posted at $999.00, sold for 9k

clay


On Jan 7, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Donald Snook wrote:

> Jim wrote: "I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But 
> hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
> some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 
> 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
> considering."
> 
> I have purchased three pair of used shoes.  Two from Goodwill thrift store 
> and one on ebay.  They were all in nearly perfect shape and were Johnston 
> Murphy and Allen Edmonds.  I wouldn't have bought them if they had lots of 
> wear.  I have been very happy with them.  I have been doing some research on 
> this and I think I am going to start selling men's shoes on ebay.  But, they 
> will only be top name brands and in Excellent Shape.  I have two pair Allen 
> Edmonds, Two pair Cole Haans, and two pair of Bostonian (the older version 
> with all leather soles and leather lined and leather insoles. It will 
> probably just end up being a hobby that I don't make money on, unless it will 
> provide me with free dress shoes for work.
> 
> There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots.  So, which brands of boots 
> would be worth buying to resell?
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
> http://www.mtsqh.com/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[clay monroe]

Used to be that you took the night soil (poop) and contents of the piss pot (if 
you did not live in town, where that was needed at the tannery) to the garden.  
Three sided compost pen where you emptied the chamber pot, cover it with hay, 
toss the liquid on, and kitchen scraps went there as well.  Weeds too.  Turn it 
once a month, and in the spring you amend the soil in the garden.

Granddad told me about this when I asked him about the quality of his veggies.  
After I walked to the garden and found him discharging the processed beer into 
the hay filled bin.  He was not interested in walking back inside while 
gardening and the old fridge was stocked to the gills with cases of beer.  
Gardening was a six pack affair.  That allowed enough time away from Granny, 
got the work done and kept Granddad hydrated.

clay


On Jan 7, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> But haven't you heard? There are germs and they're going to 
> kiiilll you. Live in fear, buy our anti-germ stuff, it'll save you. 
> If it doesn't we'll sell you some new some new anti-germ stuff.
> 
> 
> I've read that IBS is basically unheard of in the third world, the current 
> working theory is that some of the parasites in our gut that we work so hard 
> to kill are actually good for us and keep our gut running right. Thus our 
> germ-o-phobic world resigns some (many?) people to the bathroom.
> 
> People are funny about stuff, poo especially. I keep thinking I ought to 
> start humanure composting. I've read the handbook, we did an experiment at 
> camp one time (shoveling out a full outhouse is no fun, I'm looking for an 
> alternative) and ended up with nothing. Meaning one bucket full of "stuff" 
> (which is to say poo covered in sawdust) from the trial dumped in a pile in 
> the woods with leaves added over top became nothing in 1 year, meaning I 
> couldn't find where I'd dumped it... At home I was thinking about how much 
> water we'd save.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:35:17 -0600
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
> Message-ID: 
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> 
>>> I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
>>> owners foot?
>> 
>> And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
>> to RE-tire.
>> 
>> I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
>> But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
>> some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
>> shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
>> considering.
>> 
>> -- Jim
> 
> Sheesh!  what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on 
> a beach?   There used to be a song about "Its a treat to put your 
> feet in da Mississippi mud"   Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, 
> and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil.
> 
> Bacteria and fungi are everywhere.  If you are healthy, your body is 
> equipped to fight them off.  Spray em with your favorite disinfectant 
> (if you must) and move on.
> 
> One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[clay monroe]

There is still a learning curve on Siri.  They tried to make it as forgiving as 
possible, but we are non standard, so some diction gets screwed up. Given my 
level of hearing loss, I am very lenient in my dealing with Siri.  She must be 
as impaired as I am, since I have to keep asking for a repeat.

clay

On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> I got my iphone at the beginning of December and it and I just don't get 
> along on voice recognition.
> The other day I was trying "Homewood Suites, Malvern, PA" and it kept wanting 
> to use "Holiday Inn, Malvern, PA" or "Home Ice Slates" or Hot Inns sleets" 
> but it always got "Malvern, PA". I was flabbergasted that it couldn't get 
> Homewood suites but could get Malvern, PA. I finally typed it in and the GPS 
> worked fine...
> 
> Having come from Android there are a few things that drive me crazy about the 
> iphone. I think its worse because the overall experience is very good so the 
> things I find annoying stand out that much more dramatically.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:54 -0500
> From: Rich Thomas 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
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> I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.  
> It does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the 
> git-go.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] NA Diesels in higher altitude was Re: Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars

[Tim C]

On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:05:40 -0600 Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
>
> > The earlier W115s have vacuum governors -- if you don't floor the
> > pedal, it will regulate for proper fuel for altitude.
>

I believe the NA auto '74 240D (616.xxx) was manual.  I seem to recall
reading something in the owner's manual about adjusting it over a certain
altitude, though I suppose that could have just been a rough adjustment and
there was other stuff going on for finer control.

The 240D was no rocket, but it would accelerate up every local grade (and
there are some decent hills here).  I cannot say the same for the '77 300D.

> However, full "throttle" overrides the governor.
>
> It does lay a pretty good smoke screen!
>

My father used to do this in his diesel Oldsmobile.  Interestingly none of
my diesels has been so dirty, presumably the ULSD makes it harder to show
your disapproval to tailgaters. :)

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[clay monroe]

A quality shoe can be revitalized.  You have to take the insole out and do some 
cobblery mucking about, then fit a good leather insole formed and fitted to 
your foot and the shoe.  The cost is not reasonable, and unless we are speaking 
of near magical Italian or other handmade footwear, best to get your own new 
shoe.  That said, if you do not mind investing $200+, it can be done.

clay

On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

>> I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
>> owners foot?
> 
> And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
> to RE-tire.
> 
> I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
> But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
> some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
> shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
> considering.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[clay monroe]

That they do.  Podiatrist told me to only get new shoes and they would mold to 
my foot.  Since for a bit my oldest was the same shoe size, I was advised to 
strike him, smite him if  I must, should I find my shoes on his feet.  

clay

On Jan 7, 2013, at 3:57 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

> I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
> owners foot?
> 
> On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote:
> 
>> No worse than feet getting soaked running through a creek (think Hell
>> Race) or racing through mud/water in a Cyclocross race.  I've soaked more
>> than one pair of running/cycling shoes in vinegar or sprayed the interior
>> with alcohol/tea tree oil to combat bacteria.
>> 
>> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
>> '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)
>> 
>> On 1/6/2013 10:53 PM, Craig wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs.
 
 I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6.  The uppers
 are in very good condition.  One sole has a tiny hole.  I also own
 Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95.
 
>>> 
>>> Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot
>>> infection from used shoes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] NA Diesels in higher altitude was Re: Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars

[clay monroe]

I never made it above 3958 feet with Gump, so higher altitude driving is out of 
my area.  Being able to row the gears did allow for very good throttle 
positioning within the power band so you could climb without needing to lay 
down a Bondsian amount of sight obscuring fog or letting loose an oil slick.  
It was by no means quick or snappy, and a healthy amount of velocity going into 
the climb allowed for a greater chance of reasonable speed during the climb 
while you regressed down the gears.  Never ended up in first, but second was 
standard after a few miles.

clay


On Jan 6, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Craig wrote:

> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 22:05:40 -0600 Peter Frederick 
> wrote:
> 
>> The earlier W115s have vacuum governors -- if you don't floor the  
>> pedal, it will regulate for proper fuel for altitude.
> 
> I don't know what arrangement the '72 220D/8 had, but one had to pay
> attention to throttle position to maintain the proper position for
> maximum power, which was a little before the exhaust smoke increased.
> The position changed with rpm, so one had to be aware of how the car
> was operating.
> 
> 
>> However, full "throttle" overrides the governor.
> 
> It does lay a pretty good smoke screen!
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[clay monroe]

There is a Dragon app for the iPad.  Works like a charm

clay

On Jan 6, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.  It 
> does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the git-go.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 1/6/13 8:19 PM, Frederick Moir wrote:
>> 
>> Wilton.
>> Dragon works with all Windoze programs, plus many others.
>> The newest version is very good.
>>  Fred Moir
>> Lynn MA
>> Diesel preferred.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: WILTON 
>>> To: mercedes list 
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:48 PM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
>>> 
>>> Several years ago, one of you fine gentlemen sent me a voice rec. software 
>>> program, Dragon, that I used for coupla years until my tremor went away, 
>>> and I haven't used/needed it for about 6 years, now.  'Think it was Fred 
>>> Mior who sent the program.  Thanks, again, Fred.
>>> 
>>> A niece just called with a question re. the program.  She and her husband 
>>> operate a thriving, but small, auction business.  During last several 
>>> months their internet sales have grown fast.  Preparation for these sales, 
>>> though, are a bit time consuming and tedious, taking two people.  He has to 
>>> take photo of the item and tell a helper what to type, etc., about the item 
>>> in the appropriate blank.  Niece is wondering it Dragon will allow one 
>>> person to photo the item and then, using Dragon, tell the computer what to 
>>> type in the appropriate blank of an Excel program.  Anybody know?  TIA
>>> 
>>> Wilton
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[WILTON]

I notice SAS stores in Okie City, Moore, Seminole, Duncan, Tulsa; 'don't 
know where else.  'Forgot where you live.  If store too far, call store and 
have 'em sent.


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair


Google for a SAS store near you; inserts available only at SAS store as 
far as I know.  As last resort, I'll get insert(s) for you at store about 
8 blocks from here and send 'em to ya.  You know, too, that the inserts 
are washable, don't you?


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair


I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a 
pair
that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't 
carry

them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source).

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON  wrote:


My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the
wearer's foot.  In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the
shoes feel new again and always very comfortable.  Might some of the 
shoes

under discussion have such a replaceable insert?  (BTW, I'm not talking
about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm
talking about an OE insert.)

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[WILTON]

Google for a SAS store near you; inserts available only at SAS store as far 
as I know.  As last resort, I'll get insert(s) for you at store about 8 
blocks from here and send 'em to ya.  You know, too, that the inserts are 
washable, don't you?


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair



I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a pair
that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't 
carry

them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source).

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON  wrote:


My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the
wearer's foot.  In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the
shoes feel new again and always very comfortable.  Might some of the 
shoes

under discussion have such a replaceable insert?  (BTW, I'm not talking
about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm
talking about an OE insert.)

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[OK Don]

I really like my SAS shoes - where do you get the OM inserts? I have a pair
that could use new ones. The local shoe shop I bought them from don't carry
them and weren't helpful (will be looking for another source).

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the
> wearer's foot.  In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the
> shoes feel new again and always very comfortable.  Might some of the shoes
> under discussion have such a replaceable insert?  (BTW, I'm not talking
> about some sort of universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm
> talking about an OE insert.)
>
> Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Donald Snook]

Jim wrote: "I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.) But 
hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the shop oven at 200 
degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
considering."

I have purchased three pair of used shoes.  Two from Goodwill thrift store and 
one on ebay.  They were all in nearly perfect shape and were Johnston Murphy 
and Allen Edmonds.  I wouldn't have bought them if they had lots of wear.  I 
have been very happy with them.  I have been doing some research on this and I 
think I am going to start selling men's shoes on ebay.  But, they will only be 
top name brands and in Excellent Shape.  I have two pair Allen Edmonds, Two 
pair Cole Haans, and two pair of Bostonian (the older version with all leather 
soles and leather lined and leather insoles. It will probably just end up being 
a hobby that I don't make money on, unless it will provide me with free dress 
shoes for work.

There seemed to be a lot of interest in boots.  So, which brands of boots would 
be worth buying to resell?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[dseretakis]

My understanding is that the spot welds that hold the perch to the chassis rust 
and fail leading to potentially catastrophic results which could lead to a 
fatal accident. I'm not aware of anyone getting killed from this though.
The W210 chassis is very rust prone in general. I have seen many very rusty 
examples here in the northeast. I'm actually looking at one right now:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Burr under saddle blanketor is it rust on the perch???
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> 
>> Why so rude?  This isn't BANNED, is it?  You really should lighten up a bit
>> on the normal list.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM,  wrote:
>> 
 ...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear
 wheel
 drive car!  They're designed and tested to handle far worse than that...
>>> Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re: W210
>>> rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD
>>> versions have that problem.
>>> 
>>> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Rejuvenating Long Parked Cars

[Donald Snook]

Jaime wrote:  "I've found that if stored correctly, they can come back to life 
very nicely.  Whats important is that things didn't start to rust, seize, or get
stuck.  I also don't bother with cars with higher mileage.  A car needs to be 
pretty special for one reason or another to warrant this kind of attention."

When I was at the dealership, we had a customer bring his mother's 1977 
Cadillac Seville.  It had the 350 engine and the car had 13,000 miles.  She had 
parked it for nearly 20 years.  GM makes this stuff called GM Top Engine 
Cleaner.  I thought maybe it was worthless like many fuel system supplements.  
But, we pulled the plugs out and poured that stuff into the cylinders and let 
it soak for 3 days.  We changed the oil twice and refilling it each time.  We 
manually turned it over to get it blow a lot of that crap out of the cylinders. 
 Finally, when we did start it, it worked.  I don't know what was in it, but it 
cleaned all the varnish and carbon out of the engine and it ran very well.  We 
changed the plugs after 1000 miles and changed the oil again and that car ran 
great! Or at least as well as a 1977 Cadillac could run.

Just last month, my indy decided to get his Ferrari (it's an early 80's model) 
running again.  He tried to start it and had no luck.  The fuel pumps were 
shot.  He tried to find Ferrari replacement pumps and they were $5000 EACH.  
So, he ended up taking the old ones out and rebuilding them himself.  I told 
him you have to start and drive these cars (he probably has 20 beautiful and 
exotic cars in his shop that haven't been driven in 20 years).  I offered to 
come down every Saturday and drive them all, but he declined.  :)


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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Curt Raymond]

But haven't you heard? There are germs and they're going to kiiilll 
you. Live in fear, buy our anti-germ stuff, it'll save you. If it doesn't we'll 
sell you some new some new anti-germ stuff.


I've read that IBS is basically unheard of in the third world, the current 
working theory is that some of the parasites in our gut that we work so hard to 
kill are actually good for us and keep our gut running right. Thus our 
germ-o-phobic world resigns some (many?) people to the bathroom.

People are funny about stuff, poo especially. I keep thinking I ought to start 
humanure composting. I've read the handbook, we did an experiment at camp one 
time (shoveling out a full outhouse is no fun, I'm looking for an alternative) 
and ended up with nothing. Meaning one bucket full of "stuff" (which is to say 
poo covered in sawdust) from the trial dumped in a pile in the woods with 
leaves added over top became nothing in 1 year, meaning I couldn't find where 
I'd dumped it... At home I was thinking about how much water we'd save.


-Curt

Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 09:35:17 -0600
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair
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>>I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
>>owners foot?
>
>And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
>to RE-tire.
>
>I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
>But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
>some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
>shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
>considering.
>
>-- Jim

Sheesh!  what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on 
a beach?   There used to be a song about "Its a treat to put your 
feet in da Mississippi mud"   Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, 
and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil.

Bacteria and fungi are everywhere.  If you are healthy, your body is 
equipped to fight them off.  Spray em with your favorite disinfectant 
(if you must) and move on.

One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[Tim C]

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> En route to Charlotte, NC, coupla years ago, I asked my iPhone to call
> VIVIAN, my daughter, in Charlotte; instead, my daughter-in-law, STEPHANIE,
> answered - twice.  I then punched Vivian's number manually.
>

You can voice-train Android (Google) voice recognition, so it gets better
over time as you suffer through this sort of thing.  Not sure how iphone's
versions works but Siri isn't really a voice-to-text system like Android
uses.

That said I was going to recommend your niece/nephew-in-law consider some
of the iphone/android software for this.  Google's default keyboard has a
voice module so it is relatively simple to switch to and from voice typing,
and the latest versions (4.0+) are very good.  Swype keyboard (also free)
uses Dragon technology and is frequently updated.  The phone/tablet would
also have an integrated camera so they can isolate records, maybe using
something like EverNote that can keep information together easily.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Porsches

[Tim C]

Yep, I am seeing Dr. Husain in 1L.  Clearly your memory is better than
mine. :)

Best,
Tim


On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:03 PM, WILTON  wrote:

> I see Dr. Bedlack at Duke Health Center on Moreene RD.  Used to see him at
> main Duke complex clinic 1L, is it?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Tim C" 
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2013 8:56 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Porsches
>
>
>  On Jan 5, 2013 10:08 AM, "WILTON"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> BTW, Tim C., do you know 'bout the warehouse in Durham containing the 50
>>>
>> rare and pristine Porsches?
>>
>> I heard some rumors a few years ago, if I remember correctly it's the guy
>> who developed Brightleaf Square.  I vaguely recall this came out because
>> he
>> had a couple in front of his house when the Google Maps car went by, I
>> will
>> try to find a link.
>>
>> I am visiting the Duke neurologists on the 22nd, remember the name?
>>
>>  Oh, I could fill in the other 2 weeks of a year when I'm not exercising a
>>>
>> Porsche from the warehouse by reluctantly driving my MB's; then I could
>> start another Porsche cycle.
>>
>> I think he keeps two out front of his apartment so you might not have to
>> suffer the indignity. ;)
>>
>> Best,
>> -Tim
>>
>>  Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Craig" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Porsches
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 18:59:33 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

  I told 'im to let owner know that I may be available to keep one for
> 'im on "rotation" bass to exercise occasionally.  One per week would
> work for me.
>


 Yeah, I guess it would work for me, too.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[WILTON]

Of course, 'COULD go well beyond inserts, but if everything else is good or 
better - tread, uppers, etc., new OE insert may work very well.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Toscano" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair



Among other things, the soles can wear down depending on how people walk.

I think it goes beyond the inserts.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the

owners foot?



And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
to RE-tire.

I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
considering.

-- Jim



Sheesh!  what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a
beach?   There used to be a song about "Its a treat to put your feet in 
da

Mississippi mud"   Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue
sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil.

Bacteria and fungi are everywhere.  If you are healthy, your body is
equipped to fight them off.  Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if
you must) and move on.

One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile.


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[MBZ] OEM Monovalve & MTC Aux Pump Heads Up

[Jon Agne]

Rusty...Thank you for getting me the OEM monovalve.  I installed it a couple of 
weeks ago, but have not driven the car due to the snow and ice.  I finally had 
the chance to test it yesterday (Maine to NYC) and it performed flawlessly.  At 
cruise, the valve modulated as advertised putting out warm (not hot) in the 
footwell, and when necessary cool air from the dash vents.  It really is nice 
to have a working ACC system!!!

Unfortunately, The MTC aux pump looks like it is starting to leak again.  Not 
as bad as before, but enough that I can see coolant in the engine compartment 
under the pump.  I'll try and get the screwdriver on it again to re-tighten.  
BTW, this is not a complaint.  I am merely posting as a lessons learned for 
anybody else with a new MTC aux pump.

Jon

'85 300D  102k


On Nov 28, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Jon Agne wrote:

> Tks, JaimeIt's what I thought, but needed confirmation.OEM part will 
> be ordered tomorrow.
> 
> FYI.it works perfectly around town, but on the highway it goes cold
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
> 
>> If there is coolant inside the cylindrical part, then its failed.  When
>> there is coolant inside the magnet can not move freely as expected.
>> 
>> If the rubber still looks good, then perhaps it is just inferior to a Bosch
>> one.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Jon Agne  wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, pulled monovalve out to inspect and could not find any visible tears.
>>> However, when I pulled the rubber lip off of the valve, there was coolant
>>> dripping out from the other side.  Is this normal?
>>> 
>>> Now trying to isolate door lock system to see if any of the other vacuum
>>> stuff comes back on line..
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>> '85 300D
>>> 
>>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Brian Toscano]

Among other things, the soles can wear down depending on how people walk.

I think it goes beyond the inserts.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
>>> owners foot?
>>>
>>
>> And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
>> to RE-tire.
>>
>> I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
>> But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
>> some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
>> shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
>> considering.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>
> Sheesh!  what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on a
> beach?   There used to be a song about "Its a treat to put your feet in da
> Mississippi mud"   Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, and the residue
> sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil.
>
> Bacteria and fungi are everywhere.  If you are healthy, your body is
> equipped to fight them off.  Spray em with your favorite disinfectant (if
> you must) and move on.
>
> One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[dave walton]

I've seen several similar controllers advertised by startups over the years
which never became real products. If they can pull it off it will be a
great product. Only a fool would send them money now.

-Dave Walton

On Monday, January 7, 2013, Rich Thomas wrote:

> Check this thing out  https://leapmotion.com/product
>
> --R
>
> On 1/7/13 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>> I got my iphone at the beginning of December and it and I just don't get
>> along on voice recognition.
>> The other day I was trying "Homewood Suites, Malvern, PA" and it kept
>> wanting to use "Holiday Inn, Malvern, PA" or "Home Ice Slates" or Hot Inns
>> sleets" but it always got "Malvern, PA". I was flabbergasted that it
>> couldn't get Homewood suites but could get Malvern, PA. I finally typed it
>> in and the GPS worked fine...
>>
>> Having come from Android there are a few things that drive me crazy about
>> the iphone. I think its worse because the overall experience is very good
>> so the things I find annoying stand out that much more dramatically.
>>
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:54 -0500
>> From: Rich Thomas 
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
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>> I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.
>> It does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the
>> git-go.
>>
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Dieselhead]

I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
owners foot?


And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
to RE-tire.

I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
considering.

-- Jim


Sheesh!  what's the big deal? Have these guys never put bare feet on 
a beach?   There used to be a song about "Its a treat to put your 
feet in da Mississippi mud"   Mississippi mud is exquisitely smooth, 
and the residue sticks to your skin like used OM616 motor oil.


Bacteria and fungi are everywhere.  If you are healthy, your body is 
equipped to fight them off.  Spray em with your favorite disinfectant 
(if you must) and move on.


One of the problems with our society is that we are too sterile.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[WILTON]

En route to Charlotte, NC, coupla years ago, I asked my iPhone to call 
VIVIAN, my daughter, in Charlotte; instead, my daughter-in-law, STEPHANIE, 
answered - twice.  I then punched Vivian's number manually.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software


I got my iphone at the beginning of December and it and I just don't get 
along on voice recognition.
The other day I was trying "Homewood Suites, Malvern, PA" and it kept 
wanting to use "Holiday Inn, Malvern, PA" or "Home Ice Slates" or Hot Inns 
sleets" but it always got "Malvern, PA". I was flabbergasted that it 
couldn't get Homewood suites but could get Malvern, PA. I finally typed it 
in and the GPS worked fine...


Having come from Android there are a few things that drive me crazy about 
the iphone. I think its worse because the overall experience is very good 
so the things I find annoying stand out that much more dramatically.



-Curt

Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:54 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.
It does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the
git-go.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[Jon Agne]

Burr under saddle blanketor is it rust on the perch???



On Jan 7, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

> Why so rude?  This isn't BANNED, is it?  You really should lighten up a bit
> on the normal list.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM,  wrote:
> 
>>> ...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear
>>> wheel
>>> drive car!  They're designed and tested to handle far worse than that...
>>> 
>> Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re: W210
>> rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD
>> versions have that problem.
>> 
>> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[WILTON]

My shoes (SAS) come with a replaceable insert that conforms to the wearer's 
foot.  In fact, I've replaced inserts a few times, making the shoes feel new 
again and always very comfortable.  Might some of the shoes under discussion 
have such a replaceable insert?  (BTW, I'm not talking about some sort of 
universal (Dr. Scholl's, or whatever) insert, I'm talking about an OE 
insert.)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair



I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
owners foot?


And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
to RE-tire.

I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
considering.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[Rich Thomas]

Check this thing out  https://leapmotion.com/product

--R

On 1/7/13 10:21 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I got my iphone at the beginning of December and it and I just don't get along 
on voice recognition.
The other day I was trying "Homewood Suites, Malvern, PA" and it kept wanting to use "Holiday Inn, Malvern, 
PA" or "Home Ice Slates" or Hot Inns sleets" but it always got "Malvern, PA". I was 
flabbergasted that it couldn't get Homewood suites but could get Malvern, PA. I finally typed it in and the GPS worked 
fine...

Having come from Android there are a few things that drive me crazy about the 
iphone. I think its worse because the overall experience is very good so the 
things I find annoying stand out that much more dramatically.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:54 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
Message-ID: <50ea492a.7020...@constructivity.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.
It does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the
git-go.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[Curt Raymond]

I got my iphone at the beginning of December and it and I just don't get along 
on voice recognition.
The other day I was trying "Homewood Suites, Malvern, PA" and it kept wanting 
to use "Holiday Inn, Malvern, PA" or "Home Ice Slates" or Hot Inns sleets" but 
it always got "Malvern, PA". I was flabbergasted that it couldn't get Homewood 
suites but could get Malvern, PA. I finally typed it in and the GPS worked 
fine...

Having come from Android there are a few things that drive me crazy about the 
iphone. I think its worse because the overall experience is very good so the 
things I find annoying stand out that much more dramatically.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:03:54 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software
Message-ID: <50ea492a.7020...@constructivity.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I got an ipad for Christmas, and that Siri thing is downright amazing.  
It does not seem to require learning my voice, and got it right from the 
git-go.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Jim Cathey]

I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to 
the

owners foot?


And why would they not RE-form?  At least until they were ready
to RE-tire.

I'm not big on used shoes.  (Nor underwear, mattresses, etc.)
But hey, I wear socks so what do I care?  I'd think that with
some nuclear-grade disinfectant, and maybe a day or so in the
shop oven at 200 degrees, that a quality used shoe would be worth
considering.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be involved
in.


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

> Was RLE writing with sarcasm?  Is it true that perch rust only occurs in
> 2WD models?
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski 
> wrote:
>
> > Why so rude?  This isn't BANNED, is it?  You really should lighten up a
> bit
> > on the normal list.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > > ...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear
> > > > wheel
> > > > drive car!  They're designed and tested to handle far worse than
> > that...
> > > >
> > > Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re:
> W210
> > > rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD
> > > versions have that problem.
> > >
> > > RLE
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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[Brian Toscano]

Was RLE writing with sarcasm?  Is it true that perch rust only occurs in
2WD models?


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:

> Why so rude?  This isn't BANNED, is it?  You really should lighten up a bit
> on the normal list.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM,  wrote:
>
> > > ...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear
> > > wheel
> > > drive car!  They're designed and tested to handle far worse than
> that...
> > >
> > Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re: W210
> > rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD
> > versions have that problem.
> >
> > RLE
> >
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Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Why so rude?  This isn't BANNED, is it?  You really should lighten up a bit
on the normal list.


On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM,  wrote:

> > ...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear
> > wheel
> > drive car!  They're designed and tested to handle far worse than that...
> >
> Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re: W210
> rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD
> versions have that problem.
>
> RLE
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Re: [MBZ] OT shoes and repair

[Brian Toscano]

I've heard shoes are one thing to never buy used.  Don't they form to the
owners foot?

On Sunday, January 6, 2013, Benz Hogs wrote:

> No worse than feet getting soaked running through a creek (think Hell
> Race) or racing through mud/water in a Cyclocross race.  I've soaked more
> than one pair of running/cycling shoes in vinegar or sprayed the interior
> with alcohol/tea tree oil to combat bacteria.
>
> Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
> '98 ML320 "Max" (159,xxx mi)
>
> On 1/6/2013 10:53 PM, Craig wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 22:28:04 -0600 Benz Hogs 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Goodwill in Johnson County. Lots of executive castoffs.
>>>
>>> I just bought a pair of Allen Edmonds from Savers for $6.  The uppers
>>> are in very good condition.  One sole has a tiny hole.  I also own
>>> Johnston Murphy purchased in the early 90's, maybe '94/'95.
>>>
>>
>> Are you at all concerned about getting athlete's foot or some other foot
>> infection from used shoes?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

[Gerry Archer]

According to several reports Siri uses Dragon (Nuance) technology.

http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2011/10/17/nuance_
communications_dragon_speech_recognition_software_powers_iphones_siri/

Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Fred, we can use it and are very grateful.
Wilton Strickland
618 Park Ave.
Goldsboro, NC 27530

- Original Message - 
From: "Frederick Moir" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software


Wilton.
You got it about right. I get blamed for things that I didn't do and (very 
rarely) thanked for them as well.
I have a new unopened Dragon NS v.10 with headset, if you can use it, 
gratis. It is only gathering dust on the shelf.


Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: WILTON 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

Thanks, Fred. 'Sorry I messed up your name. ;<)

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Frederick Moir" 


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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software




Wilton.
Dragon works with all Windoze programs, plus many others.
The newest version is very good.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: WILTON 
To: mercedes list 
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:48 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Voice recognition software

Several years ago, one of you fine gentlemen sent me a voice rec. 
software program, Dragon, that I used for coupla years until my tremor 
went away, and I haven't used/needed it for about 6 years, now. 'Think 
it was Fred Mior who sent the program. Thanks, again, Fred.


A niece just called with a question re. the program. She and her husband 
operate a thriving, but small, auction business. During last several 
months their internet sales have grown fast. Preparation for these 
sales, though, are a bit time consuming and tedious, taking two people. 
He has to take photo of the item and tell a helper what to type, etc., 
about the item in the appropriate blank. Niece is wondering it Dragon 
will allow one person to photo the item and then, using Dragon, tell the 
computer what to type in the appropriate blank of an Excel program. 
Anybody know? TIA


Wilton


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