Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill
On 07/08/2014 10:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: It was our winter plow vehicle, and was reasonably safe to drive with a snow plow mounted that you could drop and use as an anchor when you needed to stop. Back in high school, I had a friend who built a go cart. I don't recall all of the details but basically it had a chain saw engine and rack and pinion steering that had been scavenged from some source. There was a junior high school just up the hill from his home and the yard was paved all of the way around the school so they would go up there and take turns roaring around the school and timing the runs to see who was the fastest. They had not managed to scavenge anything that would serve as brakes so ... They tied a boat anchor onto a length of rope and would throw that out and hope it caught on something sturdy enough to bring the vehicle to a stop. I never got the chance to try it out as I lived out of town and had to climb onto my school bus to head home after school but I did enjoy the stories about it all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - more white hills
My wife and I lived in a small cottage that belonged to my parents for the first 2 years that we were married. It was a lovely spot overlooking Lake of the Woods and I wish we still owned it. I encouraged my mother to sell it after my father passed away and now I wonder why I did that. In any event, there was a hill that one had to climb to get into our yard. It climbed maybe 30 feet in maybe 200 feet. It was ok in the summer. It was a bit of a minimal road when we started living there but I got some gravel hauled in and we widened it a bit and filled the holes and flattened the ridges a bit. Winter was a bit of a different story. The turn at the bottom of the hill off of the more main road was a ninety degree angle and it was not possible to carry much speed into the turn without ending up in the snow bank on the left side of the road. My primary daily driver, work truck, was a 1967 Chevy short box two wheel drive pickup truck with a 250 cid inline 6 and a 3 speed manual tranny with column shifter. No synchro into low gear. It did not have the ability to turn the corner and start up the hill in 2nd so I would have to shift down into low on the turn and double clutch to do so. I won't claim I was ever very good at doing so. We spent 2 winters there. One of them was not a problem as my father had a small dozer that was not being used elsewhere and I had it there all winter. I could plow down to the gravel if I wanted to and I could drag a vehicle up the hill on a chain behind the dozer if I needed to. The other winter was a bit of a pain. I can recall coming home more than once in the dark and having to leave a vehicle on the hill part way up because I could not get all the way up to the yard. That always left us wondering if the vehicle would start in the morning as we then could not plug in the block heater. I can also recall my young wife and I out there shovelling off the whole hill and part of the yard. We must have been tougher then than we are now. About the time that we lived there, from August of 1973 through to September of 1975, was the time that fuel prices went way up and there were shortages and line ups in the USA. I swapped my 68 Cougar for a 74 Chevy Vega. Not the best choice in retrospect but I had a better experience with the Vega than many folks did. The Vega had about 2 inches of ground clearance so it was not really built to travel in much snow. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] What's the list policy on for sale stuff?
I've an 85 300d; the drivetrain seems to be in good shape but it's got a mangled hood, left front fender, grille, and light cluster. The front bumper has a scratch (deep and wide) on the top... Oil cooler and radiator are perforated. But it has rust--bad; rotted through back floor in places and the trunk is pretty rusted through; rust is showing at the juncture of the rear quarter panel and the The brake rotors are crap, forget about A/C, the rear window regulators are the usual sad condition, the exhaust is rotted out, the rims have the usual curb rash, cruise amp needs a rebuild, the trunk lid has a couple of reverse (from the inside) dents, one rear door check is dead (but the parts are likely in the door). Its not quite chicken wagon grade. As I said, the drive train seems good (I haven't checked stretch recently, but it's been getting M1 for at least the past 6 years.) I recently re-did the automatic antenna (the adjustable height one, starting with an ultrasonic cleaning), and the tires are Michelin pilots; I think they are in decent condition (I think they are MXM and V rated for the stiffer sidewalls...). I think the doors are in decent condition with respect to rust. I'm not parting it out; make an offer (Kaleb?), BAT and take it away. The location is 21204. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] What's the list policy on for sale stuff?
I'm not aware that there is one. I can't speak for the collective group, but unless this place starts to turn into CL I don't have a problem with it. I know there are people on the list that trade and sell regularly, so what better place to do it? Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 8, 2014, at 3:36 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've an 85 300d; the drivetrain seems to be in good shape but it's got a mangled hood, left front fender, grille, and light cluster. The front bumper has a scratch (deep and wide) on the top... Oil cooler and radiator are perforated. But it has rust--bad; rotted through back floor in places and the trunk is pretty rusted through; rust is showing at the juncture of the rear quarter panel and the The brake rotors are crap, forget about A/C, the rear window regulators are the usual sad condition, the exhaust is rotted out, the rims have the usual curb rash, cruise amp needs a rebuild, the trunk lid has a couple of reverse (from the inside) dents, one rear door check is dead (but the parts are likely in the door). Its not quite chicken wagon grade. As I said, the drive train seems good (I haven't checked stretch recently, but it's been getting M1 for at least the past 6 years.) I recently re-did the automatic antenna (the adjustable height one, starting with an ultrasonic cleaning), and the tires are Michelin pilots; I think they are in decent condition (I think they are MXM and V rated for the stiffer sidewalls...). I think the doors are in decent condition with respect to rust. I'm not parting it out; make an offer (Kaleb?), BAT and take it away. The location is 21204. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
In curious as to if anyone here has attempted plastic bumper repair using plastic welding, the 3M chemicals, or any other approaches. If so, would you mind sharing your experiences with the group? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
You get a new bumper. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In curious as to if anyone here has attempted plastic bumper repair using plastic welding, the 3M chemicals, or any other approaches. If so, would you mind sharing your experiences with the group? Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You get a new bumper. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. On 8/8/2014 3:54 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You get a new bumper. Sent from my iPhone - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 3986/8000 - Release Date: 08/07/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
Fair enough. I thought you were being a smart alek. Point well taken. With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers. Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting it to match the car? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
IT could be both --R On 8/8/14 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Fair enough. I thought you were being a smart alek. Point well taken. With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers. Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting it to match the car? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
How damaged is yours? There is a material like bondo that is made just to repair such things. Might want to look into that. Once the prep is done, it works like bondo for sanding and repaint. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And then how do you plastic weld it or use 3M chemicals on it? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You get a new bumper. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
It may work but I do not think it would be worth the expense if you end up having to replace it anyway. I would try to find a used one that matches, in my case I have several laying around. On 8/8/2014 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Fair enough. I thought you were being a smart alek. Point well taken. With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers. Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting it to match the car? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8004 - Release Date: 08/08/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Plastic Bumper Repair
Or, maybe take it to someone who does that sort of work. I suspect that it is a bit of an art and that an experienced plastic welder might do a whole lot better than an amateur. Randy On 08/08/2014 4:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It may work but I do not think it would be worth the expense if you end up having to replace it anyway. I would try to find a used one that matches, in my case I have several laying around. On 8/8/2014 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Fair enough. I thought you were being a smart alek. Point well taken. With that in mind, I hear a lot of bd things about aftermarket bumper covers. Would you recommend getting a used one from a pick and pull and just repainting it to match the car? Dan On Aug 8, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I am saying is I have never seen it work very well, so you just replace the bumper. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8004 - Release Date: 08/08/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill
WILTON wrote: True, but as the character was abuilding... Yes, but all of us enjoy what was being built in them thar cigarette fields back then. My observation has to do with the ease by which seeming success happens today *because* some wise invention makes ease happen. i.e. without experience in red mud hills, nice modern designs lose perspective. ABS etc are all fine, but skill is gained without ABS, perhaps. Interface between man and machine is part of the joy of transportation, not just ease using ABS, etc. I like the character and skill that red mud hill experiences lead to rather than whatever is built today as we zoom along on the interstate with ABS. Today, we get distracted persons, incompetent persons, etc - all because of the ubiquity of ease rather than the attainment of many and varied transportation skill. It breaks? - yeah, just call AAA. Not for Curt/Wilton/mercedes-at-okiebenz - we cut off our belt to make-do with temporary fix to get to a better place to complete the problem resolution. DIY rocks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill
Agreed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - 'Nother boys tale - The Red Hill WILTON wrote: True, but as the character was abuilding... Yes, but all of us enjoy what was being built in them thar cigarette fields back then. My observation has to do with the ease by which seeming success happens today *because* some wise invention makes ease happen. i.e. without experience in red mud hills, nice modern designs lose perspective. ABS etc are all fine, but skill is gained without ABS, perhaps. Interface between man and machine is part of the joy of transportation, not just ease using ABS, etc. I like the character and skill that red mud hill experiences lead to rather than whatever is built today as we zoom along on the interstate with ABS. Today, we get distracted persons, incompetent persons, etc - all because of the ubiquity of ease rather than the attainment of many and varied transportation skill. It breaks? - yeah, just call AAA. Not for Curt/Wilton/mercedes-at-okiebenz - we cut off our belt to make-do with temporary fix to get to a better place to complete the problem resolution. DIY rocks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] GM reportedly building world's fastest pickup
Something for Hendrik ... http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/08/08/gm-reportedly-building-world-fastest-pickup/?intcmp=obnetwork Holden, the Australian division of General Motors, is set to release the world’s quickest and likely fastest pickup, News Corp Australia’s Joshua Dowling reports. It’s not a truck, but what folks Down Under call a “ute,” a sedan-based two-door with an open bed. It’s basically what the Chevrolet El Camino would’ve become if it hadn’t been put out to pasture in 1987. This one’s built on the same platform as the Chevrolet SS, and is already pretty sporty, but the one Holden Special Vehicles is working on will leave the rest in the Outback dust. Developed in secret over the past four years, the $80,000 two-seater will be powered by a supercharged version of the GM’s 6.2-liter LS3 V8, which produces 580 hp in the Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. The engine also sees duty in the Holden GTS Maloo sedan, where it’s good for a 0-60 mph run in 4.4 secs and a quarter-mile sprint in 12.3 sec. Top speed is electronically limited to 155 mph, but has been tested above 170 mph, while the ZL1 can crack the 180 mph mark. A previous high-performance version of the ute set the Guinness record for fastest pickup in 2006 at 169 mph, but there’s no word yet if Holden is planning to try to break it. The new ute is also expected to carry the GTS Maloo name. Maloo being an aboriginal word for thunder. Holden has yet to confirm the vehicle’s existence, but you’ll have to move as quickly as it apparently can if you want to order one. Only 150 will be produced, and Holden -- along with Ford Australia, which also sells a ute -- is shutting down its local manufacturing at the end of 2016, so there’s a good chance it will hold the title of most powerful Australian-built ute forever. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.