Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:55:29 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> I'm still shocked that they'd let you keep it for less than half the
> meltdown value.

I was astounded by the number, too. I asked about it saying, "You mean
the salvage value is $171?" The lady said that's what they (people from a
different department) told us. It made the decision to keep it quite easy.
:-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread WILTON

Aircraft mechanic's motto:  If it won't go, get a bigger hammer.  ;<)))

Wilton

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Sounds like it's good to go.  Who needs a body shop?

--R

On 10/21/11 4:50 PM, Craig wrote:

So I pulled off the
road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought
along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just
behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2"
further back.


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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas
There is a fairly nice 300E sitting at the mech up the road, has been 
there for quite some time, some sort of engine trouble I think.  
Probably get a good deal on it.


--R

On 10/21/11 10:32 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your
$170 V8 drivetrain in it.

Probably easier to find a 300E with a bad head gasket, and certainly
an easier swap.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
> Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your
> $170 V8 drivetrain in it.

Probably easier to find a 300E with a bad head gasket, and certainly
an easier swap.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:


Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report.


CLUE report? 


http://oci.wi.gov/pub_list/pi-207.htm



Why is that better?


Perhaps I should have said 'it gets worse'?

> Other than the right side of the front bumper, the air dam, and the right
> front suspension, it's just fine.

I was thinking you could rebuild it, then I remembered you're good at engine 
swaps. Now I think you need to find a rustfree 123 chassis and stick your $170 
V8 drivetrain in it. I'm still shocked that they'd let you keep it for less than 
half the meltdown value. Usually they want 20-35% of the appraisal, or a minimum 
of $800 in your case.


Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rick Knoble
> Craig wrote;
> 


>> Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report.
> 
> CLUE report? Why is that better?1


It's not. He is using irony/sarcasm. CLUE stands for Comprehensive Loss 
Underwriting Exchange report. Shared information about your insurance history, 
much like a credit report is for the credit industry. I believe you are 
entitled to one free report a year, same as credit reports. 
Personalreports.lexisnexis.com is the link I think. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 19:41:30 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad

Other than the right side of the front bumper, the air dam, and the right
front suspension, it's just fine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:12:43 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Randy Bennell wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal.
> 
> Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report.

CLUE report? Why is that better?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So it drove home under it's own power. Can't be that bad

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On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
>  wrote:
> 
>> How much to buy it back?
> 
> $170.72
> 
> 
>> Surely it can be fixed fairly easily
> 
> Not according to the body shop. The fellow had his assistant raise the
> right front on a jack and showed me that the attachment for the right
> lower control arm was bent backward so the sub-frame would have to be
> replaced, which would require removing the engine.
> 
> The estimate includes $2275.35 of parts, including,
>- Right lower control arm$490.00
>- Right strut$294.00
>- Right knuckle$350.00
>- Suspension crossmember$590.00
> 
> It also includes,
>- 13.5 hours of body labor$634.50
>-  9.3 hours of paint labor$437.10
>- 11.7 hours of mechanical labor$877.50
>-  6.0 hours of frame labor$450.00
>-  9.3 hours of paint supplies$279.00
> 
> plus tax for a grand total of $5359.01.
> 
> 
> I went to the body shop in Santa Fe with Shirley (and Ori :-) ) in the
> '95 E320 and talked with the owner of the shop. After showing me the
> damage, he had his assistant swap the left front wheel of the '95 E320
> (the more worn of the '95's front tires) with the right front of the '94
> E420. With a more worn tire, there was more clearance at the back of the
> '94's wheel well. We took off (Shirley in the '95 and me in the '94) and I
> noticed the tire rubbed when I put on the brakes. So I pulled off the
> road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought
> along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just
> behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2"
> further back. I then swapped the other front wheels so both of the 16"
> winter tires would be on the front of the '95 and we took off again.
> 
> We drove the 43 miles home on back roads (a very pretty drive along
> Bishop's Lodge Road) with no problems.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Rich Thomas

Sounds like it's good to go.  Who needs a body shop?

--R

On 10/21/11 4:50 PM, Craig wrote:

So I pulled off the
road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought
along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just
behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2"
further back.


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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Randy Bennell wrote:


Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal.


Better yet, a chargeable crash on Shirley's CLUE report.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/10/2011 4:08 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Craig wrote:

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


How much to buy it back?


$170.72


So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to 
ask for the car, plus you get to keep the car?



Unfortunately, you also get an insurance claim out of the deal.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:


How much to buy it back?


$170.72


So if you take their settlement offer, you get what you were going to ask for 
the car, plus you get to keep the car?


I don't see why you would remove the engine to swap the subframe. Wouldn't you 
just suspend the body on tall jack stands, suspend the engine from a chain fall, 
unbolt everything, and slide out the complete suspension?


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[MBZ] It's home now

2011-10-21 Thread Craig
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:36:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
 wrote:

> How much to buy it back?

$170.72


> Surely it can be fixed fairly easily

Not according to the body shop. The fellow had his assistant raise the
right front on a jack and showed me that the attachment for the right
lower control arm was bent backward so the sub-frame would have to be
replaced, which would require removing the engine.

The estimate includes $2275.35 of parts, including,
- Right lower control arm   $490.00
- Right strut   $294.00
- Right knuckle $350.00
- Suspension crossmember$590.00

It also includes,
- 13.5 hours of body labor  $634.50
-  9.3 hours of paint labor $437.10
- 11.7 hours of mechanical labor$877.50
-  6.0 hours of frame labor $450.00
-  9.3 hours of paint supplies  $279.00

plus tax for a grand total of $5359.01.


I went to the body shop in Santa Fe with Shirley (and Ori :-) ) in the
'95 E320 and talked with the owner of the shop. After showing me the
damage, he had his assistant swap the left front wheel of the '95 E320
(the more worn of the '95's front tires) with the right front of the '94
E420. With a more worn tire, there was more clearance at the back of the
'94's wheel well. We took off (Shirley in the '95 and me in the '94) and I
noticed the tire rubbed when I put on the brakes. So I pulled off the
road in the industrial area, pulled out the 2 pound hammer I brought
along, banged off the plastic panels on the outside of the body just
behind the right front wheel well, and then banged the metal about 1/2"
further back. I then swapped the other front wheels so both of the 16"
winter tires would be on the front of the '95 and we took off again.

We drove the 43 miles home on back roads (a very pretty drive along
Bishop's Lodge Road) with no problems.


Craig

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