Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Andrew Strasfogel]

"This is thrilling!!!"


On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Craig  wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:50:49 -0400 David & Kristin Gilmore
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > ><
> http://offtheedgehumorpics.blogspot.com/2013/04/orange-county-police-car-chase-hilarious.html
> >
> http://offtheedgehumorpics.blogspot.com/2013/04/orange-county-police-car-chase-hilarious.html
>
> You have to wonder what was going through her mind.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Craig]

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:50:49 -0400 David & Kristin Gilmore
 wrote:

> 
> 
> >http://offtheedgehumorpics.blogspot.com/2013/04/orange-county-police-car-chase-hilarious.html

You have to wonder what was going through her mind.


Craig

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[MBZ] Something different

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

http://offtheedgehumorpics.blogspot.com/2013/04/orange-county-police-car-chase-hilarious.html



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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:32:01 -0400 "Ed Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:00 AM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > You left out the "This car would be perfect if it had twice the power
> > it has now."  -  which is why I transplanted the Olds V8 into the MGA
> > years ago   Of course, perfection is an elusive goal.
> 
> 
> Yup, there is that one too. That one happens most of the time in Jeeps
> and S-10s. Those inline 4s just didn't have the power/torque needed to
> do off roading properly. So people continuously stuff V8s between their
> frame rails.

I had two Willys Utility Wagons when I was in Colorado, one with the
in-line 6 and one with a Ford 302 V8. The one with the 302 had more power
and got better fuel mileage.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Ed Booher]

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:00 AM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You left out the "This car would be perfect if it had twice the power
> it has now."  -  which is why I transplanted the Olds V8 into the MGA
> years ago   Of course, perfection is an elusive goal.


Yup, there is that one too. That one happens most of the time in Jeeps and
S-10s. Those inline 4s just didn't have the power/torque needed to do off
roading properly. So people continuously stuff V8s between their frame
rails.

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[OK Don]

You left out the "This car would be perfect if it had twice the power
it has now."  -  which is why I transplanted the Olds V8 into the MGA
years ago   Of course, perfection is an elusive goal.

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  wrote:
>
>
>  > To me it's still a WTF car.  I don't see the appeal of conversions.
>
>
>  Most conversions start out like this:
>
>  "I'm a mechanic that has specialized in one brand for the last five years. I
>  have disassembled and rebuilt several thousand Chevy small blocks and can
>  now field strip one in my sleep in 25 minutes. While I Dream! But, damn, I
>  absolutely love the sexy lines of that Mercedes SL. However, I can not be
>  bothered to learn a completely new engine set up because my brain is already
>  completely full of 350 V8 specs and blueprints. What am I to do  I know,
>  I'll put one in the SL then I'll have a car that looks great that I still
>  know where to get parts and how to fix without learning something new."
>
>  Then there is the:
>
>  "By the Gods, that's the sexiest car I've ever seen, but everywhere I look,
>  everything I read and everything I have found in my research tells me that
>  the aluminum block is as thin as cooking foil and pushes rods through about
>  once every 15,000 miles. What can I do? Oh  let's put this engine that
>  has high reliability and regularly runs to 300,000 miles without so much as
>  a tune up under the hood and we'll be good to go."
>
>  Last is my outlook:
>
>  "Diesel, in my opinion, is the fuel for the immediate future while the bugs
>  are being worked out of electrical storage and fuel cell options. They have
>  better burn cycles, more torque, and increase fuel economy due to the very
>  nature of their design. Biodiesel can be created from damn near everything
>  that grows, including left over turkey parts. As such I'm a firm advocate
>  that every vehicle should be running on Diesel, and in the vein, all gas
>  engines should be converted to the better option."
>
>  While you personally may not see a need for conversions, hopefully this
>  illustrates the mass market *appeal* of conversions and where they begin.
>
>  EdB
>


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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Ed Booher]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> To me it's still a WTF car.  I don't see the appeal of conversions.


Most conversions start out like this:

"I'm a mechanic that has specialized in one brand for the last five years. I
have disassembled and rebuilt several thousand Chevy small blocks and can
now field strip one in my sleep in 25 minutes. While I Dream! But, damn, I
absolutely love the sexy lines of that Mercedes SL. However, I can not be
bothered to learn a completely new engine set up because my brain is already
completely full of 350 V8 specs and blueprints. What am I to do  I know,
I'll put one in the SL then I'll have a car that looks great that I still
know where to get parts and how to fix without learning something new."

Then there is the:

"By the Gods, that's the sexiest car I've ever seen, but everywhere I look,
everything I read and everything I have found in my research tells me that
the aluminum block is as thin as cooking foil and pushes rods through about
once every 15,000 miles. What can I do? Oh  let's put this engine that
has high reliability and regularly runs to 300,000 miles without so much as
a tune up under the hood and we'll be good to go."

Last is my outlook:

"Diesel, in my opinion, is the fuel for the immediate future while the bugs
are being worked out of electrical storage and fuel cell options. They have
better burn cycles, more torque, and increase fuel economy due to the very
nature of their design. Biodiesel can be created from damn near everything
that grows, including left over turkey parts. As such I'm a firm advocate
that every vehicle should be running on Diesel, and in the vein, all gas
engines should be converted to the better option."

While you personally may not see a need for conversions, hopefully this
illustrates the mass market *appeal* of conversions and where they begin.

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Kevin Kraly]

I'm not sure that I would follow through with this project since the price 
of Diesel has gotten so high, but I've thought of putting a Mercedes Diesel 
into a RWD minivan (Ford Aerostar/Chevy Astro).  There's a guy on another 
list who has a full size Chevy van with a NA OM617 in it, but I wouldn't 
think it would be too practical here in the mountainous PNW.  However, the 
minivan would weigh only slightly more than a 300SD.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Mitch Haley]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> some seem to be the result of someone with too much time on their
> hands and a couple of junk cars that they couldn't think of anything
> better to do with.  "Because it would fit" isn't sufficient reason to
> go to the effort of swapping motors.

If you have an old Cougar with a nice body and a rusted out W115 that
runs strong, no job to occupy your time and provide you with money
to buy another car, because it will fit is reason enough to do it.
Not reason enough to ask $12k for your FrankenMerc, however.

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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:10 PM, andrew strasfogel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To me it's still a WTF car.  I don't see the appeal of conversions.
>

I can see the appeal of conversions that are trying to solve a problem
(e.g. Chevy mouse motor into Jag, Subaru flat-four into Vanagon), but
some seem to be the result of someone with too much time on their
hands and a couple of junk cars that they couldn't think of anything
better to do with.  "Because it would fit" isn't sufficient reason to
go to the effort of swapping motors.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[andrew strasfogel]

To me it's still a WTF car.  I don't see the appeal of conversions.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Looks like a good looking conversion.  But $12K when you can buy the
> real thing for $2500 to $5000?  Or $500.  not me!
>
> At 11:41 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote:
> >I think I'd rather have what is sitting behind the Cougar.
> >
> >BobR
> >
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> >On Behalf Of John Freer
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> >
> >Yeah there is.
> >
> >On 3/20/08, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Loren Faeth]

Looks like a good looking conversion.  But $12K when you can buy the 
real thing for $2500 to $5000?  Or $500.  not me!

At 11:41 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote:
>I think I'd rather have what is sitting behind the Cougar.
>
>BobR
>
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>
>Yeah there is.
>
>On 3/20/08, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[Robert Rentfro]

I think I'd rather have what is sitting behind the Cougar.

BobR

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Yeah there is.

On 3/20/08, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[John Freer]

Yeah there is.

On 3/20/08, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[John Robbins]

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andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/610125084.html
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Re: [MBZ] Something different

[andrew strasfogel]

Ho strange there are no pix of the engine!

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/610125084.html
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