Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)?
Neither has any fuel leaks.

Andrew
1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps
 miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It
 has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
 turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
 as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover
 to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after
 boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.
 That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the
 fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever made.

 Mike
 On Oct 29, 2012 6:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:02:34 + (UTC) dbl...@comcast.net wrote:

  I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D.
  (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there
  is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator.

 We generally get 23 MPG with our naturally aspirated 240D/3.0 here at an
 elevation of 7400 feet.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell

On 30/10/2012 1:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)?
Neither has any fuel leaks.

Andrew
1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD




It is related to all those bags of heavy cat litter that you haul home 
in the back of the wagons.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
And Starbucks coffee grounds:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

On 30/10/2012 1:16 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)?
Neither has any fuel leaks.

Andrew
1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD



It is related to all those bags of heavy cat litter that you haul home in the 
back of the wagons.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond
You don't drive enough? I do 110 miles a day.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 14:16:28 -0400
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Anyone have a clue as to why my fuel economy is so poor (20 mpg)?
Neither has any fuel leaks.

Andrew
1983 300TD, 1985 CA version 300TD

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps
 miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It
 has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
 turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
 as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover
 to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after
 boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.
 That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the
 fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever made.

 Mike

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
My 1983 and 1985 CA version 300TD wagon each get about 20 mpg around town.  Why?

On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 27 mpg road and city, both cars, '83 300D and '83 240D.
 Gerry

 From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com

 240D - 30mpg highway.


 On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

 Mike


 On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
 It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but
 really
 turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
 as can be at that speed.
 Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
 to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

 Mike


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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
My 240D rolling average is 28mpg over 120,000 miles in 2 cars.

The '78 240D gets 28mpg average pretty much no matter what, it'll be 
interesting to see it go down a bit with bio-diesel and it'll go down to maybe 
26mpg if I hold it to 85mph all day but otherwise 28mpg. I got my '83 240D as 
high as 32mpg at 60mph highway runs. Never had to opportunity to take it a 
really long distance, I always thought it might have made 35mpg if I could have 
run it at 60mph for a full tank of fuel.

My '84 190D 2.2l auto will easily do 40mpg if I take it easy, otherwise it 
averages a solid 38mpg. The newer 60x engines are more efficient, the car is 
smaller, lighter and has a lower co-efficeient of drag.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:45:34 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
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What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

Mike
On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
 It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
 turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
 as can be at that speed.
   Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
 to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

 Mike

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread dblidd
I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D. (1979 
drivetrain, AC removed) 
The way I drive it, I am surprised there is no hole in the carpet under the 
accelerator.

David Liddell

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 My 1983 and 1985 CA version 300TD wagon each get about 20 mpg around
 town. Why?
 
 On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Gerry Archer
 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
  27 mpg road and city, both cars, '83 300D and '83 240D.
  Gerry
 
  From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
 
  240D - 30mpg highway.
 
 
  On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?
 
  Mike
 
 
  On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.
  160
  gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I
  stole it.
  It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well
  but
  really
  turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along
  smooth
  as can be at that speed.
  Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for
  an
  1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.
  So, 60
  gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back. That's
  about $5
  worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel. And,
  I get
  to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!
 
  Mike
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:02:34 + (UTC) dbl...@comcast.net wrote:

 I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D.
 (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there
 is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator.

We generally get 23 MPG with our naturally aspirated 240D/3.0 here at an
elevation of 7400 feet.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Canfield
I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps
miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It
has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
as can be at that speed. Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover
to get ready for an 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after
boot camp. So, 60 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.
That's about $5 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the
fuel. And, I get to drive one of the finest cars ever made.

Mike
On Oct 29, 2012 6:11 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:02:34 + (UTC) dbl...@comcast.net wrote:

  I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D.
  (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there
  is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator.

 We generally get 23 MPG with our naturally aspirated 240D/3.0 here at an
 elevation of 7400 feet.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread Michael Canfield
What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

Mike
On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
 It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
 turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
 as can be at that speed.
   Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
 1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
 gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
 worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
 to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

 Mike

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
240D - 30mpg highway.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

Mike
On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
as can be at that speed.
 Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

Mike

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread Mitch Haley

Michael Canfield wrote:

What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?


I got 28 trip (1200 miles in two days) and around 21-23 local in my W116.
Might have been a bit high on the hwy due to oversized tires effectively making 
the gearing taller (I think the car was optimized for 55-60mph on the hwy in 
1979) It has 215/78R14 on it IIRC.


I'm guessing 5-10% better for a W123 turbo.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread ernest breakfield
on the open hwy when we use #2, typically in the low-mid 20s... but 
that's usually also at sustained higher speeds (75-85+, and it still 
cruises nicely into triple digits).
in more typical daily/commute use on B99, which involves a mix of 
surface street, lots of stop-and-go, and Bay Area Kombat Kommute speeds 
on the freeway (70+), usually closer to 20.



cheers!
e

'85 300Dt (CA car)

On 28/Oct/12 06:45, Michael Canfield wrote:

What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread Rick Knoble
25-28 MPG combined driving. 2-3 MPG less in the winter months. 

Rick
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On Oct 28, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

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Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-28 Thread Gerry Archer

27 mpg road and city, both cars, '83 300D and '83 240D.
Gerry

From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com

240D - 30mpg highway.

On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

What MPG do you guys that still drive W123 chassis cars get?

Mike



On Oct 26, 2012 10:05 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but 
really

turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
as can be at that speed.
Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

Mike

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[MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-26 Thread Michael Canfield
I love my 83 300d!  Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back.  160
gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it.
It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really
turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth
as can be at that speed.
  Gotta do a valve adjustment and general checkover to get ready for an
1800 mile trip to Parris Island to pick up my son after boot camp.  So, 60
gallons or so of veggie oil should get me there and back.  That's about $5
worth of filtering and 1 hour of my time to process the fuel.  And, I get
to drive one of the finest cars ever madegotta love it!

Mike
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