Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes trunk lock on my 300CD seized up & Houdini freed it up.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On May 5, 2018 8:20 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes"  wrote:

> What Craig and Rick said: it's magic stuff! I apply it to the 1957 locks in
> the Cessna at least once a year, sometimes twice - keeps them moving very
> smoothly.
>
> > > Houdini lock spray.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE/
>
> >
> >
>
>
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> OK Don
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Craig and Rick said: it's magic stuff! I apply it to the 1957 locks in
the Cessna at least once a year, sometimes twice - keeps them moving very
smoothly.

> > Houdini lock spray.

https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE/

>
>


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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What really does these in quickly is having a key chain with a bunch of crap 
hanging on it or a lot of keys.  The weight of the items on the keychain buts 
stress on the lock and can cause it to fail.

My youngest goes around with a lanyard for a keychain with all sorts of other 
junk on it.  If he wasn’t driving a W210 with a SmartKey I would be all over 
him about it.

-D



> On May 4, 2018, at 11:44 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everybody. For some reason I was thinking this phenomenon was unique
> to w123 cars. Now I see the problem was far more widespread. Perhaps I did
> come up the works, as the car really does not have enough miles on it to
> either wear the original key significantly or one would think to cause the
> ignition tumbler to fail. I will try one of the factory keys I had made and
> if that doesn't work get out the sander and some kind of graphite versus
> magic Amazon penetrating Lube.
> 
> On May 4, 2018 7:21 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
> once the key is in the on position, remove the cylinder as advised by
> others with the 2mm pins or a 2mm balldriver.  Once the cyl in out, you
> can run the car with a screwdriver if necessary, until the new cyl
> arrives from your favorite stealer.  MB of Tampa is a good choice.
> That is where Q used to get MB parts often.
> 
> 
> Houdini lock spray.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C5JFKKE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8=1525468033=8-1=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=houdini+lock+lubricant=1=31aqehFMIAL=plSrch
> 
> And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the
> dealership.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 05 May 2018 03:45:05 + Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That was gum up the works, just to be clear
> 
> On Fri, May 4, 2018, 8:44 PM Karl Wittnebel 
> wrote:
> 
> > I will try one of the factory keys I had made and if that doesn't
> > work get out the sander and some kind of graphite versus magic Amazon
> > penetrating Lube.


Like Rick said:

> > Houdini lock spray.
> >

https://www.amazon.com/HOUD1-Houdini-Lock-Lube/dp/B00C5JFKKE/


And further like Rick said,

> > And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the
> > dealership.

These points are very important. Please heed them!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

That was gum up the works, just to be clear

On Fri, May 4, 2018, 8:44 PM Karl Wittnebel  wrote:

> Thanks everybody. For some reason I was thinking this phenomenon was
> unique to w123 cars. Now I see the problem was far more widespread. Perhaps
> I did come up the works, as the car really does not have enough miles on it
> to either wear the original key significantly or one would think to cause
> the ignition tumbler to fail. I will try one of the factory keys I had made
> and if that doesn't work get out the sander and some kind of graphite
> versus magic Amazon penetrating Lube.
>
> On May 4, 2018 7:21 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> once the key is in the on position, remove the cylinder as advised by
> others with the 2mm pins or a 2mm balldriver.  Once the cyl in out, you
> can run the car with a screwdriver if necessary, until the new cyl
> arrives from your favorite stealer.  MB of Tampa is a good choice.
> That is where Q used to get MB parts often.
>
>
> Houdini lock spray.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C5JFKKE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8=1525468033=8-1=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=houdini+lock+lubricant=1=31aqehFMIAL=plSrch
>
> And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the
> dealership.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Thanks everybody. For some reason I was thinking this phenomenon was unique
to w123 cars. Now I see the problem was far more widespread. Perhaps I did
come up the works, as the car really does not have enough miles on it to
either wear the original key significantly or one would think to cause the
ignition tumbler to fail. I will try one of the factory keys I had made and
if that doesn't work get out the sander and some kind of graphite versus
magic Amazon penetrating Lube.

On May 4, 2018 7:21 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

once the key is in the on position, remove the cylinder as advised by
others with the 2mm pins or a 2mm balldriver.  Once the cyl in out, you
can run the car with a screwdriver if necessary, until the new cyl
arrives from your favorite stealer.  MB of Tampa is a good choice.
That is where Q used to get MB parts often.


Houdini lock spray.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C5JFKKE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8=1525468033=8-1=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=houdini+lock+lubricant=1=31aqehFMIAL=plSrch

And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the
dealership.


Rick




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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

once the key is in the on position, remove the cylinder as advised by 
others with the 2mm pins or a 2mm balldriver.  Once the cyl in out, you 
can run the car with a screwdriver if necessary, until the new cyl 
arrives from your favorite stealer.  MB of Tampa is a good choice.   
That is where Q used to get MB parts often.


Houdini lock spray. 


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C5JFKKE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8=1525468033=8-1=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=houdini+lock+lubricant=1=31aqehFMIAL=plSrch

And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the dealership. 



Rick




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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, "white lithium" grease will guarantee that it will be bad.  that 
stuff hardens and cakes like dried clay.  Use the sander trick and put 
in a new cyl.


Friends don't let friends drive toadas OR use "white lithium"  "grease"

Synthetic with Molybdenum is the way to go.  Molykote BR2 if ya want a 
brand.  The M1 15w-50 of grease.


Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the lock of the e420. Seems a little
sticky in the past, but I never have had any problem with it. Have greased
it at least once with white lithium grease in the past. Anybody have any
experience with the key not turning in the lock on a 124?





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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like time to order a new tumbler.

Wiggling and jiggling may get it to turn one more time, be ready with a set
of 2mm pins (a bicycle spoke makes a good tool) to insert (grind angles on
tips) so you can pull the tumbler.

Extreme method is to vibrate the key with a sander while twisting to get
the pins to release and turn the tumbler one more time...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 4:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the lock of the e420. Seems a little
> sticky in the past, but I never have had any problem with it. Have greased
> it at least once with white lithium grease in the past. Anybody have any
> experience with the key not turning in the lock on a 124?
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018, 7:58 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> > Nice light interior. Could be a flappable car.
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Priced a bit high, but could be a fun car. I think these had the short
> >> tear
> >> end?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/05/2018 3:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the lock of the e420. Seems a little
sticky in the past, but I never have had any problem with it. Have greased
it at least once with white lithium grease in the past. Anybody have any
experience with the key not turning in the lock on a 124?



Does that mean it can be removed but just will not turn the lock?
I assume you have tried moving the steering wheel one way or the other?
Do you have any other keys for the car? Maybe try a different key?
Might spray some sort of penetrating oil down into it if key is removable.
If sticky, I don't think I would have used grease. If it dries, it will 
be worse.


Others will be along to advise that all is lost and the car is now worth 
only a pittance.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Karl sez:

>Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the >lock of the e420. Seems a little
> sticky in the past

Houdini lock spray. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C5JFKKE/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8=1525468033=8-1=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=houdini+lock+lubricant=1=31aqehFMIAL=plSrch

And don't lock it again until you have a replacement lock from the dealership. 


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup.

You’ve probably got a bad lock cylinder.  Best to do a Wilton on it with the 
vibratory sander and see if you can free it up for the removal.

A new cylinder with key matched to your VIN is under $100 from the dealer.

-D


> On May 4, 2018, at 4:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the lock of the e420. Seems a little
> sticky in the past, but I never have had any problem with it. Have greased
> it at least once with white lithium grease in the past. Anybody have any
> experience with the key not turning in the lock on a 124?
> 
> On Tue, May 1, 2018, 7:58 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> Nice light interior. Could be a flappable car.
>> 
>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Priced a bit high, but could be a fun car. I think these had the short
>>> tear
>>> end?
>>> 
>>> https://www.copart.com/lot/32243318
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[MBZ] e420 ignition lock Frozen

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Nanny says she cannot turn the key in the lock of the e420. Seems a little
sticky in the past, but I never have had any problem with it. Have greased
it at least once with white lithium grease in the past. Anybody have any
experience with the key not turning in the lock on a 124?

On Tue, May 1, 2018, 7:58 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Nice light interior. Could be a flappable car.
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Priced a bit high, but could be a fun car. I think these had the short
>> tear
>> end?
>>
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/32243318
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