Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
S'not, and I understand Don has fixed the locking issue on every door but the trunk since I was there... Drives about the same as my 190D 2.2l powerwise. It started right up, didn't seem to smoke any, wasn't any louder than I'd expected. I think it needs rear shocks (cheap) and a better radio but other than that its pretty well ready to go. As I say its a $1500 car, I just hadn't adequately thought through the idea of driving a $1500 car halfway across the country. I should have shipped it... -Curt Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:27:12 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed so other than that how big a POS is it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
In Chicago? I dunno I'm not familiar enough with that city. In Boston it'd have a family of 5 living in it by morning... -Curt --- On Thu, 9/25/08, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 9:25 PM Why would you bother to lock the doors on a car like that? Who's going to bother it? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that you can't lock. We had a nice dinner with Don and his family, stayed in a nice hotel, saw all the sights of Jefferson and flew home... -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
Much as I like the VW diesel I don't think your car will make 500,000 without a rebuild. I did some research back a couple months ago and it appears that many VW diesels get rebuilt at ~250,000 and many more (most?) by 400,000. That said a short block for one is about the same price as a rebuild kit for an MB... They were cheap cars, ment to be thrashed and rebuilt. Apparently they cannot suffer any kind of real engine mistreatment at all and expect to survive. That said I'd like to find one around here in good condition. I *think* I know of a diesel Dasher wagon but even if I wanted to talk to my highschool drama teacher again (no way) that car hasn't run since '90 at the latest. -Curt Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:45:29 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My VW Quantum diesel has 213,360 on the clock and is running strong. Starts much quicker than my 240D in cold temps. I'd put it up against ANY Benz for fun and reliability. Loren babied it, the next owner trashed it, I've (after a rebuild) driven it, and soon the pending Okie owner will thrash it. This car will laugh at 500K on the odometer. Yea, the Benz has history and a giant cool factor. But the vintage VW diesel has a lot going for it. I'd LOVE to find a rust-free diesel Rabbit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
Curt Raymond wrote: That said I'd like to find one around here in good condition. What about your Quantum? I thought you flew out to Iowa last month and drove it home? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that you can't lock. We had a nice dinner with Don and his family, stayed in a nice hotel, saw all the sights of Jefferson and flew home... -Curt --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:47 AM Curt Raymond wrote: That said I'd like to find one around here in good condition. What about your Quantum? I thought you flew out to Iowa last month and drove it home? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
so other than that how big a POS is it? Curt Raymond wrote: I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that you can't lock. We had a nice dinner with Don and his family, stayed in a nice hotel, saw all the sights of Jefferson and flew home... -Curt --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:47 AM Curt Raymond wrote: That said I'd like to find one around here in good condition. What about your Quantum? I thought you flew out to Iowa last month and drove it home? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.2/1690 - Release Date: 9/25/2008 7:05 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
Why would you bother to lock the doors on a car like that? Who's going to bother it? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that you can't lock. We had a nice dinner with Don and his family, stayed in a nice hotel, saw all the sights of Jefferson and flew home... -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
A VW is no MBZ and I will never own another water cooled VW in my life if I can help it. -Rolf Allan Streib wrote: $12,000 for a VW Westy turbodiesel? I thought they were at least twice that if in decent condition. Especially for a turbodiesel conversion. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:24:55 -0500, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hartford.craigslist.org/rvs/841393191.html I need a cold shower. -Rolf Rolf: For that money, you can get a nice VW Westfalia turbodiesel camper that will get 27 mpg and go 70, as opposed to 55. Also sleeps four, and drives like a comparative sports car. But those 408s are cool and very roomy, and Westy interiors are the best there is for both design (use of space) and quality, no matter what they're installed in. Dan 82 Vanagon TD 83 Vanagon I-4 conversion 300SD 300TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A VW is no MBZ and I will never own another water cooled VW in my life if I can help it. VW is no MBZ, I'll agree with that. My '91 Jetta was one of the best cars I ever owned. Never had any trouble with the cooling system outside of a few leaky flanges that are easy to replace. The waterboxer gas engines used in the vans are also troublesome, though if well cared for they can give good service. But a turbodiesel conversion, if done well, should be pretty trouble free. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
My VW Quantum diesel has 213,360 on the clock and is running strong. Starts much quicker than my 240D in cold temps. I'd put it up against ANY Benz for fun and reliability. Loren babied it, the next owner trashed it, I've (after a rebuild) driven it, and soon the pending Okie owner will thrash it. This car will laugh at 500K on the odometer. Yea, the Benz has history and a giant cool factor. But the vintage VW diesel has a lot going for it. I'd LOVE to find a rust-free diesel Rabbit. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A VW is no MBZ and I will never own another water cooled VW in my life if I can help it. VW is no MBZ, I'll agree with that. My '91 Jetta was one of the best cars I ever owned. Never had any trouble with the cooling system outside of a few leaky flanges that are easy to replace. The waterboxer gas engines used in the vans are also troublesome, though if well cared for they can give good service. But a turbodiesel conversion, if done well, should be pretty trouble free. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
I always called the Quantum the poor man's Mercedes. In interior and drivability, fun and so forth, i imagined it to somewhat like driving a euro trim 201 190d, perhaps the 190D 2.5 Turbo. The ONLY thing lacking was the quality of the outside door handles, but the inside handles were never a problem. I HAVE had problems with the inside handles on MBs, but never outside door handles. It is quite a car, even now, and someone here should snap it up. I think the interior may be better than a 201. All I ever had to do in taking the quantum from 100k to 200k was change oil, change tires, a new battery or two, adjust the calves a couple of times, wash and wax it once in a while and replace maybe 3 of the door handles (2 screws, no need to remove the door panel) When Don got it, it needed an axle, some fuel hose, and tires and some TLC The quantum i think was the most reliable car I have ever had. It was without a doubt the cheapest car to operate I have ever had, but the 190Dc was next in line. When we lived in HI, the Quantum would sit for 1 or 2 years at a time, then we'd drive it for a few weeks, and let it hibernate again. After 2 years sitting, guess what? It cranked right up! Every 80someting or newer MB won't start after sitting a month or 2. Dead battery, or you have to disconnect the cables when you park it or keep the battery on a trickle charge etc. That gets annoying. At 08:45 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote: My VW Quantum diesel has 213,360 on the clock and is running strong. Starts much quicker than my 240D in cold temps. I'd put it up against ANY Benz for fun and reliability. Loren babied it, the next owner trashed it, I've (after a rebuild) driven it, and soon the pending Okie owner will thrash it. This car will laugh at 500K on the odometer. Yea, the Benz has history and a giant cool factor. But the vintage VW diesel has a lot going for it. I'd LOVE to find a rust-free diesel Rabbit. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A VW is no MBZ and I will never own another water cooled VW in my life if I can help it. VW is no MBZ, I'll agree with that. My '91 Jetta was one of the best cars I ever owned. Never had any trouble with the cooling system outside of a few leaky flanges that are easy to replace. The waterboxer gas engines used in the vans are also troublesome, though if well cared for they can give good service. But a turbodiesel conversion, if done well, should be pretty trouble free. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
I fixed your starting issue! :-) [Leak in the fuel line -- 6'4 is a challenge crawling around in a Quantum trunk!] On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: All I ever had to do in taking the quantum from 100k to 200k was change oil, change tires, a new battery or two, adjust the calves a couple of times, wash and wax it once in a while and replace maybe 3 of the door handles (2 screws, no need to remove the door panel) When Don got it, it needed an axle, some fuel hose, and tires and some TLC. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hartford.craigslist.org/rvs/841393191.html I need a cold shower. -Rolf Rolf: For that money, you can get a nice VW Westfalia turbodiesel camper that will get 27 mpg and go 70, as opposed to 55. Also sleeps four, and drives like a comparative sports car. But those 408s are cool and very roomy, and Westy interiors are the best there is for both design (use of space) and quality, no matter what they're installed in. Dan 82 Vanagon TD 83 Vanagon I-4 conversion 300SD 300TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper
$12,000 for a VW Westy turbodiesel? I thought they were at least twice that if in decent condition. Especially for a turbodiesel conversion. Allan -- 1983 300D (for sale) On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:24:55 -0500, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sep 21, 2008, at 9:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://hartford.craigslist.org/rvs/841393191.html I need a cold shower. -Rolf Rolf: For that money, you can get a nice VW Westfalia turbodiesel camper that will get 27 mpg and go 70, as opposed to 55. Also sleeps four, and drives like a comparative sports car. But those 408s are cool and very roomy, and Westy interiors are the best there is for both design (use of space) and quality, no matter what they're installed in. Dan 82 Vanagon TD 83 Vanagon I-4 conversion 300SD 300TE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
