RE: Grouping with lists in a script
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 Chipp Walters wrote: Hi William, You can either create the objectList by selecting the objects you wish to group, then issuing the single command group as in.. on mouseUp select control 1 and control 2 group end mouseUp or if you don't want to select, you can use the 'and' concatenator as in.. on mouseUp group control 1 and control 2 and control 3 end mouseUp -Chipp Hi Chipp, Thanks very much for the response, but what you suggest is exactly what I tried to *avoid* because of the great number of controls. I had the understanding that the list-option of the group command was an option to automate the tedious process to concatenate manually a huge number of crontols in the script editor. This is what the Metatalk Reference says: Syntax: group c where c stands for a list, explained by an if-statement: If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. If list here would just mean the concatenated sequence of controls names or numbers in a script - explicitly written down one after the other -, this extra option would be meaningless. I tried to put the contatenated sequence of control names into a variable fieldlist by means of a repeat loop. Then, group fieldlist - both with an and-sequence as you suggested and a vertical order of controls as lines - only produced errors. What finally worked, as I already indicated, was to put group as the first word into the repeat-loop generated variable fieldlist and then put the do-command before the variable with the script: put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist repeat with i = 2 to 100 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist end repeat do Fieldlist .- The question remains, is there a special structure for the list-option or is the information of the MetaTalk Reference merely tautological, i.e. repeating in a fuzzy way what already had been stated? If the latter is the case then the sentence: If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. would indeed be superfluous and misleading. Thanks and regards, Wilhelm group c Description: The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a group/background. If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. == Although there is a workaround (see the quotation below), I am still curious to know how to produce a list as in group c of the Metatalk Reference, where c stands for a list of controls. The Revolution Transcript Dictionary, which sometimes gives more detailed information about matters of usage, does not mention the option to use group with a list. Well, anybody out there that has an idea? Thanks in advance, Wilhelm Sanke On Tuesday, March 4th, I wrote: Subject: Grouping with lists in a script I needed to make a greater number of controls into a group by script. MetaTalk Reference (182) provides this information: Syntax: group c Description: The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a group/background. If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. I tried various forms of lists and put them into a variable fieldlist, but then group fieldlist failed each time. Two forms of lists I tried - generated in a repeat-loop - were fld 1 fld 2 fld 3 and fld 1 and fld 2 and fld 3... What finally worked after some experimenting was using the do command, like in put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist repeat with i = 2 to 100 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist end repeat do Fieldlist What am I missing in setting up the list structure for using the information about grouping in the MetaTalk Reference? Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Grouping with lists in a script
[snip} I had the understanding that the list-option of the group command was an option to automate the tedious process to concatenate manually a huge number of crontols in the script editor. This is what the Metatalk Reference says: Syntax: group c where c stands for a list, explained by an if-statement: If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. If list here would just mean the concatenated sequence of controls names or numbers in a script - explicitly written down one after the other -, this extra option would be meaningless. I tried to put the contatenated sequence of control names into a variable fieldlist by means of a repeat loop. Then, group fieldlist - both with an and-sequence as you suggested and a vertical order of controls as lines - only produced errors. The question remains, is there a special structure for the list-option or is the information of the MetaTalk Reference merely tautological, i.e. repeating in a fuzzy way what already had been stated? If the latter is the case then the sentence: If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. would indeed be superfluous and misleading. Thanks and regards, Wilhelm I think the entry for this in the MetaTalk Reference needs to be updated to clarify the very issue you raised. Intuitvely, when I encounter the term list, I think of a group of items that have a common delimiter, enabling me to buld a list in a rather simple manner. My first go-'round with this was to try to prepare a string comprising the list of controls, trying different delimiters. Of course, that totally didn't work. I finally settled on the concatenation method demonstrated in the docs. (But I still don't like it.) miscdas ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Grouping with lists in a script
[snip] Wilhelm Sanke writes: On Sun, 09 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intuitvely, when I encounter the term list, I think of a group of items that have a common delimiter, enabling me to buld a list in a rather simple manner. miscdas The whole thing boils down to the problem, that even a list - concatenated with and - does not work, if you generate it in a repeat-loop and put it in into a variable. Regards, Wilhelm Sanke = When I said ...to 'buld' a list in a rather simple manner, I was refering to methods such as your repeat loop. This was one of the ways I tried without success as well. The documentation needs explicit examples, such as yours, of what works AND of what doesn't work. miscdas ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Grouping with lists in a script
Although there is a workaround (see the quotation below), I am still curious to know how to produce a list as in group c of the Metatalk Reference, where c stands for a list of controls. The Revolution Transcript Dictionary, which sometimes gives more detailed information about matters of usage, does not mention the option to use group with a list. Well, anybody out there that has an idea? Thanks in advance, Wilhelm Sanke On Tuesday, March 4th, I wrote: Subject: Grouping with lists in a script I needed to make a greater number of controls into a group by script. MetaTalk Reference (182) provides this information: Syntax: group Description: The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a group/background. If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. I tried various forms of lists and put them into a variable fieldlist, but then group fieldlist failed each time. Two forms of lists I tried - generated in a repeat-loop - were fld 1 fld 2 fld 3 and fld 1 and fld 2 and fld 3... What finally worked after some experimenting was using the do command, like in put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist repeat with i = 2 to 100 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist end repeat do Fieldlist What am I missing in setting up the list structure for using the information about grouping in the MetaTalk Reference? Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Grouping with lists in a script
Hi William, You can either create the objectList by selecting the objects you wish to group, then issuing the single command group as in.. on mouseUp select control 1 and control 2 group end mouseUp or if you don't want to select, you can use the 'and' concatenator as in.. on mouseUp group control 1 and control 2 and control 3 end mouseUp -Chipp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wilhelm Sanke Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Grouping with lists in a script Although there is a workaround (see the quotation below), I am still curious to know how to produce a list as in group c of the Metatalk Reference, where c stands for a list of controls. The Revolution Transcript Dictionary, which sometimes gives more detailed information about matters of usage, does not mention the option to use group with a list. Well, anybody out there that has an idea? Thanks in advance, Wilhelm Sanke On Tuesday, March 4th, I wrote: Subject: Grouping with lists in a script I needed to make a greater number of controls into a group by script. MetaTalk Reference (182) provides this information: Syntax: group Description: The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a group/background. If a list of controls is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. I tried various forms of lists and put them into a variable fieldlist, but then group fieldlist failed each time. Two forms of lists I tried - generated in a repeat-loop - were fld 1 fld 2 fld 3 and fld 1 and fld 2 and fld 3... What finally worked after some experimenting was using the do command, like in put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist repeat with i = 2 to 100 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist end repeat do Fieldlist What am I missing in setting up the list structure for using the information about grouping in the MetaTalk Reference? Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Grouping with lists in a script
I needed to make a greater number of controls into a group by script. MetaTalk Reference (182) provides this information: Syntax: group c Description: The group comand makes a set of selected controls into a group/background. If a list of controls c is supplied, those controls will be added to the new group. I tried various forms of lists and put them into a variable fieldlist, but then group fieldlist failed each time. Two forms of lists I tried - generated in a repeat-loop - were fld 1 fld 2 fld 3 and fld 1 and fld 2 and fld 3... What finally worked after some experimenting was using the do command, like in put groupthe name of fld 1 into Fieldlist repeat with i = 2 to 100 put Spaceandthe name of fld i after last word of Fieldlist end repeat do Fieldlist What am I missing in setting up the list structure for using the information about grouping in the MetaTalk Reference? Regards, Wilhelm Sanke ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
