metamail broken, lynx ignores mailcap
Are these problems known? Lynx ignores mailcap even after uncommenting PERSONAL_MAILCAP:.mailcap metamail makes Segmentation fault (core dumped). Do someone know an alternative to metamail? Rod.
Asus Eee PC R101 Netbook
Does someone have experiens with OpenBSD and the above Laptop? Does OpenBSD run there and support all devices (Wlan, Ethernet, etc)? Thanks in advance for any hint! Rodrigo
Re: Softraid
I must correct myself and be more precise: with some trivial arithmetic and some editing of disklabel you can also mount a FreeBSD partition in OpenBSD What I had was OpenBSD installed in a small slice and FreeBSD in a bigger in the same disk. I wanted to read the FreeBSD partition when booted FreeBSD. It was enough to edit the OpenBSD label to add the FreeBSD partition, and some arithmetic is necessary for it. It would be interesting to know if something is done for compatibility or this just works as far as developements of the BSDs dont diverge too much. Rod.
Softraid
Hello World! Perhaps a trivial question. Let us suppose, I follow the instructions of SOFTRAID(4) for bulding a Raid 1 device sd0 from wd1, wd2, wd3. Let us suppose that I make a ufs file system in sd0. As I see, there are fdisc and disklabel partitions in each wd disc and in sd0. Will I later be able to mount wd1 (wd2, wd3) alone? As a Raid1 with one disk? And if I want to mount it in other operating system supporting ufs? And a question not about OpenBSD: is this problem solved with Hardware Raid or do hardware Raid controles add other info to the discs? I have a dpt PM37755U2B (SmartRaid V Millenium): is this controler supported by OpenBSD (not mentioned in DPT(4))? I want to make a file server with an old computer, just for backups, but I want portable discs, not to depend too much on hardware and operating system. Do someone have an Idea what can I do? :) Thanks Rod.
Re: Softraid
Thank you very much to Nick Holand for his answer! Not sure if any other OSs natively read OpenBSD partitions My experience with older OpenBSD and FreeBSD: if the OpenBSD partition is in a fdisc partition (slice), you can mount it in FreeBSD; with some trivial arithmetic and some editing of disklabel you can also mount a FreeBSD partition in OpenBSD. I dont know if this is still the case and if it is only casuality, not intended, if there can be troubles. or simply copy to one disk, then from that disk to the other disk inside your system Perhaps a solution with rsync is a good alternative, automated with a script. Rod.
Re: VoIP Sophtphones
Thanks to Tomas Bodzar and Sebastian Reiterbach for the tip. About asterisk and the sugested softphone, I think astersk would be enough, it can be misused as SIP softphone as far as I know, but I never bothered to learn how to use it. Indeed I like very much the simplicity of pjsua. I tried to use callcentric.com with pjsua and ekiga (both in the packages), and I had troubles, I just wanted to prove with softphones that are suported in the webpage of callcentric. By the way, also asterisk is there. I think the problem does not lie in the phone, but in the firewall (callcentric does not use a normal stun server). Rodrigo.
Re: VoIP Sophtphones
Tomas Bodzar wrote: OpenBSD 4.8 and earlier releases are not supported anymore. I will update to 5.0 or 5.1 later, but now I have a little stress and other preocupations. To update twice a year means a little work and care, and there are priorities. I am just using OpenBSD as desktop. Perhaps a misuse, because security is not my priority, indeed I would perhaps preffer less security and have more software, telnetd in the system (with a hint to security problems in the man pages), etc, but I am happy with OpenBSD as Desktop. I tried to compile twinkle and linphone, not from the packages, they were not there, just the software releases, my question was only if someone tried and had troubles as I, if he was successfull. I understand the point of L. V. Lammert in locate weirdness, I didnt want in this case to bother the developers, it is a question that I would have made in USENETs group comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc, but it is unfortunately death. Rodrigo.
VoIP Sophtphones
pjsua from the packages works very good. I tryied to compile linphone-3.5.0 and twinkle-1.4.2 in OpenBSD4.8 without success. Did someone managed to do it? Thanks Rodrigo.
Re: Install without the DNS domain name from DHCP
Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote: don't know if you can use supersede domain-name ; this constantly comes up on the list for some reason. it shouldn't because it doesn't do anything I pointed some months ago to this problem. It seems the only clean alternative is to write your own dhclient-script. BTW, what seems to work is: supersede domain-name .; Rodrigo.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org wrote: uses less than 25w at idle and less than 30w doing a-j3 userland build Nice to know it. :) I have an Compaq Proliant with two 900Mhz processors. It needs about 105w when idle. Inspite of active PFC power supply. With luck I find a Museum that wants it. Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
First of all, thank you very much to all that answered my question. To Nick Holland: Sounds like you've rediscovered this section: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#amd64 It is no discovery, I continously change the computer. Right now searching for an old one that do not consume much electricity. The best is a Siemens with a celeron, 800mhz, the whole machine consumes 32w when idle, but goes to 42w or more when I do a little thing like starting the browser. The one with the sempron consuems 42w when idle, but is more stable: perhaps is the power supply the consuming part. There is another reason to use i386: Linux compatibility. I like to use opera browser. Rod.
OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Hallo! I took the subjectline from INSTALL.amd64. I hope this is also the right ISO for other AMD processors, not amd64. I have a Sempron 3000+ with 754 sockel, but I am not sure if it supports amd64 instructions. Rod.
cdio: Can't determine media type
I got the above error with the command: cdio -v -f /dev/rcd1c tao obsd5-amd64.iso but there was no problem with: cdrecord -v -speed=2 dev=/dev/rcd1c:@ obsd5-amd64.iso The cd burner is connected via USB. Dmesg messages: umass0 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 Acer Peripherals product 0x6007 rev 2.00/1.00 addr 3 umass0: using ATAPI over Bulk-Only scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 cd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: ATAPI, CD-R/RW 32X10, W.AR ATAPI 5/cdrom removable What was my error? Thanks Rod.
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: Wikipedia says 'AMD64 supported by: all models with an OPN ending in BX and CV' and 'E6 stepping or later' It seems I have a BO: SSE3, but not AMD64 according to dmesg. Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: this one is a no-brainer. [...] boot amd64 bsd.rd. either it boots or it doesn't. How do you exclude the possibility of something in between? It booted and installed, but it is perhaps not the right image. Should I use an intel image? there is no AMD without 64. BTW: the ethernet on the motherboard (Asus K8U-X) does not work. Rod. --- Here my dmesg after installing: OpenBSD 5.0 (GENERIC) #53: Wed Aug 17 10:07:52 MDT 2011 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 2146238464 (2046MB) avail mem = 2075078656 (1978MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0500 (58 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0703 date 09/08/2005 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. K8U-X acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices HTT_(S4) AC97(S4) MC97(S4) LAN_(S4) USB0(S4) USB1(S4) USB2(S4) UB20(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+, 1800.13 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 128KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (HTT_) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 1800 MHz: speeds: 1800 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Acer Labs M1689 PCI rev 0x00 agp at pchb0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Acer Labs M5246 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon VE rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16 drm0 at radeondrm0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Acer Labs M5249 PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 pcib0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Acer Labs M1563 ISA rev 0x70 Acer Labs M7101 Power rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 not configured auacer0 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 Acer Labs M5455 Audio rev 0x20: apic 1 int 18 ac97: codec id 0x41445368 (Analog Devices AD1888) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auacer0 Acer Labs M5263 LAN rev 0x40 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE rev 0xc7: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC AC14300R wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 4112MB, 8421840 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, CD-ROM DRIVE-24X, 242M ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 Acer Labs M5289 SATA rev 0x10 at pci0 dev 14 function 1 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 20, version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 21, version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 Acer Labs M5237 USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 22, version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 Acer Labs M5239 USB2 rev 0x01: apic 1 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Acer Labs EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 it0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: IT8712F rev 7, EC port 0xd00 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 usb1 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Acer Labs OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at ohci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Acer Labs OHCI root hub
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote: No idea what you are saying there. It works, it will almost certainly keep working. What does mean: cpu0: [...] LONG, 3DNOW, ...? Is this LONG perhaps the expected AMD64? BTW: Perhaps I end using i386, this has the advantage that I can put the hard drive on any another computer later. Rod.
Re: how to find dependencies when building a new kernel
Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote to T. Valent: IF your hardware is so anemic that it can't run GENERIC, I think you will do much better getting more realistic hardware I differ. I have an old, very old laptop, running OpenBSD. The value of the laptop is not the hardware, but its use as typewriter - and much more - and not risking that it be stolen in a publich library when one leaves it for a while. It is not only a typewriter, I can surf with lynx, get files with ftp, read mail, etc. Perhaps for a computer hacker this is nothing, for me it is of great value. I think also for a hacker some years ago would have been of great value, a dream. Unfortunately I couldt compile the kernel: just the tar-ball was too big for the laptop, for the disc, for the ram. welcome to the ignore list of many developers. Few days ago I was also welcomed to a kill file, just for insisting a little that com.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce is not useless: for me as a casual user and perhaps for the whole project, for attracting people to it, then joining a mailing list, even if it is with gmane, supposes a previous involvement. Rodrigo.
Re: how to find dependencies when building a new kernel
Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote That's not what cannot run GENERIC means. Indeed. But at the beginning of the 21st century I installed netbsd in a laptop with 4MB ram through the serial port. The programs to install an OS are normaly the biggest problem: need more resources than the OS, they may not run, but the OS yes. In my newer laptop I was not able to install FreeBSD, but OpenBSD. I think my compiling problem may be solved using NFS, I will try it later. Rodrigo.
Re: Which drivers are required for proper system functioning?
Diana Eichert deich...@wrench.com wrote: Because the dmesg from the last working kernel will tell you what drivers need to be installed to run. Plus some comments on the Generic or other configuration files included as examples, plus a little common sense, and a little trial-and-error. This is what I always did when compiling FreeBSD Kernel. For the trial- and error part: keep always a copy of a working kernel. Rodrigo.
Mounting big FAT filesystems
Well, after reading Trouble with large files in current snapshot, I would like to ask something different: it is true that FAT filesystems of more than 120GB cannot be mounted? Will this change? My experience is unfortunately, that it is true. It is not that I like FAT filesystems, but it is in my experience the only filesystem that can be mounted rw in almost every unix-like operating system (and also M$ Windoze). Do you know an alternative? Rodrigo
Re: Mounting big FAT filesystems
pat pkugri...@gmail.com wrote: I could mount it [in OpenBSD] without errors but directory listing was only giving me ~10 strange file names with all kinds of weird symbols, That was also my experience. Mount command took time, and the directory was as you described it. I immediatly unmounted the disc, and mounted it in Linux [with which I created the fat fs]: it seems it was not damaged. I did it with OpenBSD 4.8, perhaps the newer releases have not this problem? Rodrigo.
Re: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
Speaking of which... You are as free to put me in your killfile, but then you behave like a child without rational arguments. To resume: gmane is a bidirectional gateway list to nntp, it is an archive. The aim of usenet is something very different: to efficiently propagate news. It is not a gateway, it is not an archive for keeping the messages forever. You are comparing apples with pears. As Florian noted, not even in the corresponding mailing lists are done the announcements. Rodrigo
comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
Just see news.groups.proposals: REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated newsgroup comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce. --- Is really no one interessted on the group? I preffer newsgroups than mailing lists filling my mailbox. I am in this mailing list only because also comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc is dying. Perhaps the next openbsd newsgroup to be deleted. Is realy no one interested on the newsgroups? Rodrigo.
Re: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
Thank you for the information about gmane and its *local* newsserver. I suppose you are aware that this is not a substitute of USENET, although it works well and has nothing wrong. It is an archive, it is not USENET, no one writes thing to be archived inmediately, it is not the place for posting. It is not a Net like USENET. Are OpenBSD people really giving up their presence in USENET? Rodrigo.
Re: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
Andreas Vvgele m...@andreasvoegele.com wrote: Usenet *is* dying: http://usenet.dex.de/de.ALL.html; Perhaps, but is that a reason to kill it? There is no better alternative to USENET for that, what USENET is meant to do. There is only WWW-chaos. Your statistics only show that it is not as frequented as 2001, but -- inspite of it --- much better than 1992/93, as I began using USENET. It does not say anything about people using it: perhaps it is at the academy, by people interested in technical issues, so frequented or more as before. I cannot imagine that a www-forum or a mailing list can substitute USENET. I cannot see any reason not to forward OpenBSD anouncements to comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce. Rodrigo
Re: comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce
Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote: I have a very brocken internet connection, sometimes through WLAN, sometimes through UMTS. I am using OpenBSD because the drivers seems to work better than in FreeBSD, since few months ago, and I dont know for how much time I am using OpenBSD in my main Computer. The ones that do the announcements, should just forward them to comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.announce: a seccond person making copy and paste will not do it efficiently, also not with the best connection and hardware. It was good that Florian Rehnisch did the job, but he renounced and there is no new moderator, and it seems that the group will be deleted, unless people show interest in news.groups.proposals. Rodrigo.
Re: mixerctl.conf(5), mixerctl(1)
I thank Jason McIntyre for his kind answer to my question. I find regretable that Jan Stary call a troll someone that only makes a remark on the man pages. By the way, I realy didnt know the syntax of the file. Rod.
Re: mixerctl.conf(5), mixerctl(1)
I forgot: Jan Stary Mail do not answer any of my questions. It seems it was written only to call me a troll. Rod.
mixerctl.conf(5), mixerctl(1)
In no of the above man pages stay (1) the format of mixerctl.conf or (2) where it must be placed. From the end of the page mixerctl.conf(5) I can infer /etc/mixerctl.conf is the place. Waht is the format? Name=value pairs separated by new lines? Rod.
Re: mixerctl.conf(5), mixerctl(1)
Shane Harbour sh...@netsyssecurity.net wrote: Normally, what I do, is mixerctl /etc/mixerctl.conf and then just edit from there as needed. OK, thanks. I suppose, mixerctl.conf is placed in /etc and consist of name/value pairs as in output of the comand mixerctl, I suppose you edit only the values changing them. I supose that I must supose because these man pages are not precise enought. Rod.
Re: dhclient, resolv.conf
Hello! I have a question about dhclient-script. I am not sh programmer, and have only few knowledge about dhclient. I copied bellow the last part of /sbin/dhclient-script. Does this mean that at TIMEOUT it must exit with error, unless it changes resolv.conf, what I dont want? I have a wanted lease only until TIMEOUT, after that I must accept that dhclient change resolv.conf against my will? I would realy like to delete the call to add_new_resolv_conf (that changes resolv.conf), but the life is limited until TIMEOUT. Rod. TIMEOUT) delete_old_alias add_new_address sleep 1 if [ -n $new_routers ]; then set $new_routers if ping -q -c 1 -w 1 $1; then if [ $new_ip_address != $alias_ip_address ]; then add_new_alias fi add_new_routes if add_new_resolv_conf; then exit 0 fi fi fi ifconfig $interface inet $new_ip_address delete $medium # XXX Why not a delete_old_address as before all other invocations of # delete_old_routes? delete_old_routes exit 1 ;; esac exit 0
Re: dhclient, resolv.conf
Boudewijn Dijkstra sp4mtr4p.boudew...@indes.com wrote: If the DHCP server says things that are wrong, then _that_ needs to be fixed. I think, a functional and proactive secure operating system should not do anythyng some DHCP Server somewhere tells him in a way that cannot be controlled with an appropriate configuration file. Rod.
Re: dhclient, resolv.conf
Jurjen Oskam jur...@osk.am wrote: supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; supersede domain-name ; My dhclient completely ignores supersede domain-name ; and sets an unwanted search line given by the server. Indeed you must give supersede domain-name .; To obtain search . in resolv.conf, what seems to be no problem. Rod.
Re: dhclient, resolv.conf
Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: If you are using dhclient, then /etc/resolv.conf is not really a configuration file. Then it should be called /rmp/resolv.conf If you see dhclient-script, you find a file inflation: /etc/resolv.conf.std, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/resolv.conf.save, /etc/resolv.conf.std6, /etc/resolv.conf.tail All them belog to /tmp, tot to /etc (in your logic). Rodrigo
