RE: large projects in mod_perl
The resources that were pointed out were great! For large web apps MVC is great, especially when combined with XML and XSLT. It is certainly not a panacea as someone stated in an earlier post. Mod_perl can function as an application server. I don't know a whole lot about this, but I know it can be done. I am currently looking into playing around with mod_perl in an application server setting. Cache::Cache seems promising for keeping objects around. MVC type code offers a good separation of work flow from business logic and view logic. Not sure what transaction management packages are out there now. I am not sure of what app server products/projects are out there now for Perl (maybe some were mentioned earlier). The building blocks are definitely there. I am sure someone has assembled, or is assembling, them to serve as a turn key app server. I'd like to hear more about projects that manage session state across a web farm, allow for remote objects, transaction management, etc... Al -Original Message- From: Oleg Shaikhatarov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 4:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: large projects in mod_perl There is a really big project called HSPcomplete written mostly on Perl (AFAIK it took about 200-300 man months to complete 2.0 version). It has a three-tier architecture: Web Apps (Forms processing) - Middle Tier (data management) - Low-level Libs It uses own templating system called ASPcms, which uses Text::Template as a low-level template processor + has a number of common Perl libraries: * lib to construct web forms * Mid-Tier Abstract lib * DB abstraction library * lib to construct multi-step wizards * security and license management lib etc... Product homepage: http://www.sw-soft.com/products/hspcomplete/ Regards, Oleg Shaikhatarov zt.zamosc.tpsa.pl wrote: Hi all Does anyone know where I can find some information on creating big projects in Perl (mod_perl)? I am facing the really big project now but I don't know what stucture of the program will be the best. There are such things like Struts, jBoss in Java. What about Perl? Thank you in advance. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **
Re: large projects in mod_perl
* Calbazana, Al ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020828 09:04]: I am not sure of what app server products/projects are out there now for Perl (maybe some were mentioned earlier). The building blocks are definitely there. I am sure someone has assembled, or is assembling, them to serve as a turn key app server. I'd like to hear more about projects that manage session state across a web farm, allow for remote objects, transaction management, etc... This should be useful: http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html Chris -- Chris Winters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988
Re: large projects in mod_perl
At 09:16 27.08.2002, zt.zamosc.tpsa.pl wrote: Hi all Does anyone know where I can find some information on creating big projects in Perl (mod_perl)? I am facing the really big project now but I don't know what stucture of the program will be the best. There are such things like Struts, jBoss in Java. What about Perl? Well, with mod_perl you have many possibilities. I would advise you to read http://perl.apache.org/docs/tutorials/apps/scale_etoys/etoys.html for an explanation about a big project involving mod_perl at EToys, and http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html for a list of application servers available for mod_perl (as well as maybe http://perl.apache.org/docs/tutorials/tmpl/comparison/comparison.html to look at how to choose a templating system). You might also want to develop your own architecture based on MVC, which we had a long discussion about here recently. For a lot of interesting reading, look at these threads: o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/jilgygland o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/pahphucree o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/solchaxzim o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/lerdginspir o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/stremnemcland o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/nounumspim o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/blildeudrand o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/zhathontimp o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/drehkrerlnen o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/drurflerdplald -- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: large projects in mod_perl
There is a really big project called HSPcomplete written mostly on Perl (AFAIK it took about 200-300 man months to complete 2.0 version). It has a three-tier architecture: Web Apps (Forms processing) - Middle Tier (data management) - Low-level Libs It uses own templating system called ASPcms, which uses Text::Template as a low-level template processor + has a number of common Perl libraries: * lib to construct web forms * Mid-Tier Abstract lib * DB abstraction library * lib to construct multi-step wizards * security and license management lib etc... Product homepage: http://www.sw-soft.com/products/hspcomplete/ Regards, Oleg Shaikhatarov zt.zamosc.tpsa.pl wrote: Hi all Does anyone know where I can find some information on creating big projects in Perl (mod_perl)? I am facing the really big project now but I don't know what stucture of the program will be the best. There are such things like Struts, jBoss in Java. What about Perl? Thank you in advance.
Re: large projects in mod_perl
How about application software ? The lists are either programming tools or language iteself. I mean something like ... online accounting software ... just for example. Peter Bi - Original Message - From: Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zt.zamosc.tpsa.pl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: Re: large projects in mod_perl At 09:16 27.08.2002, zt.zamosc.tpsa.pl wrote: Hi all Does anyone know where I can find some information on creating big projects in Perl (mod_perl)? I am facing the really big project now but I don't know what stucture of the program will be the best. There are such things like Struts, jBoss in Java. What about Perl? Well, with mod_perl you have many possibilities. I would advise you to read http://perl.apache.org/docs/tutorials/apps/scale_etoys/etoys.html for an explanation about a big project involving mod_perl at EToys, and http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html for a list of application servers available for mod_perl (as well as maybe http://perl.apache.org/docs/tutorials/tmpl/comparison/comparison.html to look at how to choose a templating system). You might also want to develop your own architecture based on MVC, which we had a long discussion about here recently. For a lot of interesting reading, look at these threads: o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/jilgygland o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/pahphucree o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/solchaxzim o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/lerdginspir o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/stremnemcland o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/nounumspim o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/blildeudrand o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/zhathontimp o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/drehkrerlnen o http://mathforum.org/epigone/modperl/drurflerdplald -- Per Einar Ellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
