RE: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
Hi Leo: My video card is a S3 Trio 64 3D. With the help of a fellow of the foro I configured the video mode. (I use mandrake Air 7.02 and Xfree 3.3.6) But not fully, here my explanation: If I start the Gui with startx y can see the kde grafical user interface, but if I start with kdm the screen became black. Trying to introduce the user name and password with the screen blank, if those are correct then I can see the kde. The same with gdm or xdm. You could try this. Maybe is your case too. I hope it works for you. Good Luck. -Mensaje original- De: Leo Stutzmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: miércoles 14 de junio de 2000 17:07 Para: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Asunto: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
Re: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
Don't feel bad, I have an IBM Netfinity 3000 with the same S3 Trio 3D chip. It seems that the video card is only supported in VESA/Frame Buffer mode. It took me six months of 3 am frustration, and umpteen support calls, and endless postings (check the archives) to get that answer. Finally, last week an IBM tech support guy sent me an internal memo on how to get the damn thing to work. I suggest that you subsitute the XFree86-FBDev-3.3.x-x.i386.rpm in the instructions with whatever version came with your distribution or download the latest version available and RPM it from whatever directory it is stored. Here is the exact section from IBM's support: ...Currently, no support exists other than VESA/Frame Buffer for the Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) video adapter included with the Netfinity 1000/3000 Server. (although, this applies to all S3 Trio 3D video cards)*** Appendix B: Installing the VESA/Frame Buffer Server 1. With the system started in command mode, log in as root . 2. Mount the Red Hat Linux 6.1 C D and install the frame buffer server package as follows: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom # cd /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS # rpm -ivh XFree86-FBDev-3.3.5-3.i386.rpm 3. Save the current symbolic link by running # mv /etc/X11/X /etc/X11/X.old . 4. Create a new symbolic link by running # ln -s ../../usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_FBDev /etc/X11/X . 5. Edit /etc/lilo.conf to add a new entry for the frame buffer server by copying the existing entry. Only add a vga=773 line after the image line and change the label so that it is unique to other entries. The following is an example of a SMP kernel entry with frame buffer server installed: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.12-20smp vga=773 label=linux-fb initrd=/boot/initrd-2.2.12-20smp.img read-only root=/dev/sdxx NOTE : Do not remove the existing entry. Do not make changes to the root line in the new entry. The default line in /etc/lilo.conf contains the label of the kernel loaded by default. If there is no default specified, then the first kernel entry in etc/lilo.conf is loaded by default. The digits 773 indicate 1024 x 768-pixel density with 8-bit color depth. For more information, see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt (kernel-source-2.2.12-6.i386.rpm package). 6. Update the master boot record and the LILO boot loader by running # lilo -v . 7. Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to create a new section entry for the frame buffer server under Screen section. Copy the following example of a Screen entry and make the necessary changes. NOTE : and depends upon predefined strings in XF86Config. Replace with the string following Identifier under Device in the Graphics device section. Replace with the string following Identifier under Monitor in the Monitor section. Section "Screen" Driver "fbdev" Device "" Monitor "" Subsection "Display" Modes "default" EndSubsection EndSection 8. Reboot the system and remove the media. 9. At the LILO boot prompt, press Tab for the kernel options or press Enter if the new kernel was set as the default kernel. 10. After the system has restarted in command mode, issue the startx command to enter the X Window system. That should do it for you, although it is a little complex if you have never done this before(like me). Please post this solution to the newsgroup for me, for some strange reason I cannot post to the mailing list even though I get everyone else's. Feel free to email me for more help, good luck Victor Leo Stutzmann wrote: I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
RE: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
Title: RE: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question Try setting on the AOpen P128 card, I believe that is the right designation in the list. That is the card I have at home and Mandrake listed it although it did not find it on the install. When I picked it from the list and use a 16bit color and 800x600 resolution everything works fine. The card is an S3 Trio3D/2X so maybe those settings will work for you. -Original Message- From: Leo Stutzmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:07 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
Re: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
It seems the easy solution for our problem(although, I haven't tried yet) would have been to check www.XFree86.org 's website. All we need to do is select S3 Virge video card during install or rpm it later. The S3 Trio 3D and 3D/2X are fully supported using the XFree86 version 3.3.6, or the new 4.0; From 3.3.6 Supported Hardware( http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/S3V1.html#1 ); "Since release 3.3.2 of XFree86, there are now two servers which support the ViRGE family of chips. The XF86_S3V server is a dedicated server which supports the S3 ViRGE (86C325), the ViRGE/DX (86C375), ViRGE/GX (86C385) and the ViRGE/VX (86C988) chips. Use of that server is no longer recommended. It is not actively being supported anymore. The above ViRGE chipsets are supported in the XF86_SVGA server, which includes a new ViRGE driver making use of the XAA acceleration architecture and also supports ViRGE/GX2 (86C357), ViRGE/MX (86C260), Trio3D (86C365), Trio3D/2X (86C362), Savage3D (86C391), Savage4 (86C396/86C397) and Savage2000 chips as of 3.3.6." , or, from Version 4.0's Release Notes's ( http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/RELNOTES2.html#15 ) 2.13.3. s3virge The s3virge driver is a port of the 3.3.x SVGA S3 ViRGE driver. As such it should be as stable and functional as previous XFree86 releases. There are a couple additional benefits included primarily due to common enhancements: Depth 24 problems resolved with clients using 24/32 bpp pixmaps. Our common acceleration architecture (XAA) has been re-written, as has the ViRGE acceleration code. You should find this version has better performance than prior releases. Multi-head is reported to work. The s3virge man page lists options and has configuration notes for this release of the driver. Trio 3D and Trio 3D/2X support has been added, matching the 3.3.6 driver. Supports screen rotation and shadow framebuffer. Outstanding items not implemented or fully tested: DGA support is implemented, but preliminary and untested. Further information can be found in README.s3virge. I am going to repost this answer under the "S3 Trio 3D" subject line so that anyone searching for a solution in the future will be able to easily find it. Victor Leo Stutzmann wrote: I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
RE: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
Thanks, but this is exactly what I have tried. I am using Mandrake 7.1 which installs XFree86 3.3.6. The Trio3D and associated chip is marked as an 86C365 chip, but in my IBM 300PL the chip is marked as an 86C366. The Trio3D driver does not work for this chip. Leo -Original Message- From: Victor Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question It seems the easy solution for our problem(although, I haven't tried yet) would have been to check www.XFree86.org 's website. All we need to do is select S3 Virge video card during install or rpm it later. The S3 Trio 3D and 3D/2X are fully supported using the XFree86 version 3.3.6, or the new 4.0; From 3.3.6 Supported Hardware( http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/S3V1.html#1 ); "Since release 3.3.2 of XFree86, there are now two servers which support the ViRGE family of chips. The XF86_S3V server is a dedicated server which supports the S3 ViRGE (86C325), the ViRGE/DX (86C375), ViRGE/GX (86C385) and the ViRGE/VX (86C988) chips. Use of that server is no longer recommended. It is not actively being supported anymore. The above ViRGE chipsets are supported in the XF86_SVGA server, which includes a new ViRGE driver making use of the XAA acceleration architecture and also supports ViRGE/GX2 (86C357), ViRGE/MX (86C260), Trio3D (86C365), Trio3D/2X (86C362), Savage3D (86C391), Savage4 (86C396/86C397) and Savage2000 chips as of 3.3.6." , or, from Version 4.0's Release Notes's ( http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/RELNOTES2.html#15 ) 2.13.3. s3virge The s3virge driver is a port of the 3.3.x SVGA S3 ViRGE driver. As such it should be as stable and functional as previous XFree86 releases. There are a couple additional benefits included primarily due to common enhancements: Depth 24 problems resolved with clients using 24/32 bpp pixmaps. Our common acceleration architecture (XAA) has been re-written, as has the ViRGE acceleration code. You should find this version has better performance than prior releases. Multi-head is reported to work. The s3virge man page lists options and has configuration notes for this release of the driver. Trio 3D and Trio 3D/2X support has been added, matching the 3.3.6 driver. Supports screen rotation and shadow framebuffer. Outstanding items not implemented or fully tested: DGA support is implemented, but preliminary and untested. Further information can be found in README.s3virge. I am going to repost this answer under the "S3 Trio 3D" subject line so that anyone searching for a solution in the future will be able to easily find it. Victor Leo Stutzmann wrote: I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
Re: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question
Don't use the Trio 3D driver, use the S3 Virge. Vic Leo Stutzmann wrote: Thanks, but this is exactly what I have tried. I am using Mandrake 7.1 which installs XFree86 3.3.6. The Trio3D and associated chip is marked as an 86C365 chip, but in my IBM 300PL the chip is marked as an 86C366. The Trio3D driver does not work for this chip. Leo -Original Message- From: Victor Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] XFree86 Setup Question It seems the easy solution for our problem(although, I haven't tried yet) would have been to check www.XFree86.org 's website. All we need to do is select S3 Virge video card during install or rpm it later. The S3 Trio 3D and 3D/2X are fully supported using the XFree86 version 3.3.6, or the new 4.0; From 3.3.6 Supported Hardware( http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/S3V1.html#1 ); "Since release 3.3.2 of XFree86, there are now two servers which support the ViRGE family of chips. The XF86_S3V server is a dedicated server which supports the S3 ViRGE (86C325), the ViRGE/DX (86C375), ViRGE/GX (86C385) and the ViRGE/VX (86C988) chips. Use of that server is no longer recommended. It is not actively being supported anymore. The above ViRGE chipsets are supported in the XF86_SVGA server, which includes a new ViRGE driver making use of the XAA acceleration architecture and also supports ViRGE/GX2 (86C357), ViRGE/MX (86C260), Trio3D (86C365), Trio3D/2X (86C362), Savage3D (86C391), Savage4 (86C396/86C397) and Savage2000 chips as of 3.3.6." , or, from Version 4.0's Release Notes's ( http://www.xfree86.org/4.0/RELNOTES2.html#15 ) 2.13.3. s3virge The s3virge driver is a port of the 3.3.x SVGA S3 ViRGE driver. As such it should be as stable and functional as previous XFree86 releases. There are a couple additional benefits included primarily due to common enhancements: Depth 24 problems resolved with clients using 24/32 bpp pixmaps. Our common acceleration architecture (XAA) has been re-written, as has the ViRGE acceleration code. You should find this version has better performance than prior releases. Multi-head is reported to work. The s3virge man page lists options and has configuration notes for this release of the driver. Trio 3D and Trio 3D/2X support has been added, matching the 3.3.6 driver. Supports screen rotation and shadow framebuffer. Outstanding items not implemented or fully tested: DGA support is implemented, but preliminary and untested. Further information can be found in README.s3virge. I am going to repost this answer under the "S3 Trio 3D" subject line so that anyone searching for a solution in the future will be able to easily find it. Victor Leo Stutzmann wrote: I have an IBM 300PL, with integrated Trio3D chip on the motherboard. I installed XFree86 3.3.6. I have tried the Trio3D, Trio3D/2X, and the 86C365 setting. All these settings don't work. The screen just goes black. Sometimes I can recover by using ctl-alt-backspace, and other times the machine is locked up. The chip says 86C366 on it. There does not seem to be a listing in the graphic cards for this chip. Anyone have this working? Do you have an XF86Config file or the needed lines in the config to make this work? Thanks for any help Leo
