Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Ross M. Jamison 
My only problem with Honda is all the plastic.

Thank you,

Ross M. Jamison
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On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:57 PM, "Allen Thomas"  wrote:

> Even the sport touring line up is well known and established. Really no need 
> to advertise the ST anymore than the connie.
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> 
> They are only almost invisible because of the juggernaut marketing machine 
> that is Harley. Believe me, I see far more metrics (cruisers + sportbikes) 
> than I see legitimate Harleys.
> 
> Part of the issue, as I see it, is the market for a touring bike that isn't a 
> cruiser is somewhat small. Honda has the upmarket "rolling couch" segment 
> totally locked down tight with the Goldwing; everyone has heard of those. 
> Everyone else has to fight for those few people who want touring bikes in 
> something other than a V-twin, and it's a small market of knowledgeable 
> players so they don't typically need to do much advertising.
> 
> -Kurt
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:
> I don’t think you are going to hurt Hondas image, because they are almost 
> invisible at this point.  It kills me that they have a superior product to 
> Harleys for the price and yet so few know it, especially when it comes to the 
> ST.
> 
> Ron
> 
>  
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on 
> motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to 
> any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p). 
> 
>  
> 
> -Kurt
> 
>  
> 
> PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had to 
> have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:
> 
> I agree about the advertising, but I don’t know about the Goldwing.  I’ve got 
> the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different color or 
> cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A red head, 
> a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl on fury.  
> Two guys who are standing there say, One says, “Yes, I like the brunet” and 
> the other guy says to the camera, “How about you?” That would sell Hondas
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas 
Even the sport touring line up is well known and established. Really no need to 
advertise the ST anymore than the connie.
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They are only almost invisible because of the juggernaut marketing machine
that is Harley. Believe me, I see far more metrics (cruisers + sportbikes)
than I see legitimate Harleys.

Part of the issue, as I see it, is the market for a touring bike that isn't
a cruiser is somewhat small. Honda has the upmarket "rolling couch" segment
totally locked down tight with the Goldwing; everyone has heard of those.
Everyone else has to fight for those few people who want touring bikes in
something other than a V-twin, and it's a small market of knowledgeable
players so they don't typically need to do much advertising.

-Kurt

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

>  I don’t think you are going to hurt Hondas image, because they are
> almost invisible at this point.  It kills me that they have a superior
> product to Harleys for the price and yet so few know it, especially when it
> comes to the ST. 
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
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>
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> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Nolte
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2012 5:13 PM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes
>
> ** **
>
> But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on
> motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to
> any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p). 
>
> ** **
>
> -Kurt
>
> ** **
>
> PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had
> to have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:
>
> I agree about the advertising, but I don’t know about the Goldwing.  I’ve
> got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different
> color or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A
> red head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl
> on fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, “Yes, I like the
> brunet” and the other guy says to the camera, “How about you?” That would
> sell Hondas
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Kurt Nolte 
They are only almost invisible because of the juggernaut marketing machine
that is Harley. Believe me, I see far more metrics (cruisers + sportbikes)
than I see legitimate Harleys.

Part of the issue, as I see it, is the market for a touring bike that isn't
a cruiser is somewhat small. Honda has the upmarket "rolling couch" segment
totally locked down tight with the Goldwing; everyone has heard of those.
Everyone else has to fight for those few people who want touring bikes in
something other than a V-twin, and it's a small market of knowledgeable
players so they don't typically need to do much advertising.

-Kurt

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

>  I don’t think you are going to hurt Hondas image, because they are
> almost invisible at this point.  It kills me that they have a superior
> product to Harleys for the price and yet so few know it, especially when it
> comes to the ST. 
>
> Ron
>
> ** **
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> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Nolte
> *Sent:* Monday, September 10, 2012 5:13 PM
> *To:* nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes
>
> ** **
>
> But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on
> motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to
> any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p). 
>
> ** **
>
> -Kurt
>
> ** **
>
> PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had
> to have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:
>
> I agree about the advertising, but I don’t know about the Goldwing.  I’ve
> got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different
> color or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A
> red head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl
> on fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, “Yes, I like the
> brunet” and the other guy says to the camera, “How about you?” That would
> sell Hondas
>
> ** **
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Pastor Ron 
I don't think you are going to hurt Hondas image, because they are almost
invisible at this point.  It kills me that they have a superior product to
Harleys for the price and yet so few know it, especially when it comes to
the ST. 

Ron

 

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[mailto:nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Nolte
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:13 PM
To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

 

But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on
motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to
any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p). 

 

-Kurt

 

PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had to
have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

I agree about the advertising, but I don't know about the Goldwing.  I've
got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different color
or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A red
head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl on
fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, "Yes, I like the
brunet" and the other guy says to the camera, "How about you?" That would
sell Hondas

 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Dave duChene 
If this is the best Honda has to offer the other guys are going to do well.


On 10 September 2012 15:59, Hawaii Sean  wrote:

> Isn't the NC700X a new bike?  Wouldn't you think Honda would be
> advertising it a lot more?  I find it confusing at best.  That's a growing
> market yet you don't really see anything from Honda.  Like the NT700V, a
> really great tweener bike and perfect for the everyday commuter that likes
> to tour yet nothing advertised at all.  I'd even add the ST1100's and
> 1300's into this mix.  I would guess it's to protect the Goldwing?
>
> Sean
>
> On Friday, September 7, 2012 3:40:42 AM UTC-10, 2006 Nighthawk wrote:
>>
>>  The fury looks bad a…….  especially in red.  No Nighthawk in the
>> line-up.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://motorsportsnewswire.**wordpress.com/2012/09/05/**
>> honda-announces-more-new-**models-for-2013-0905121/
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Kurt Nolte 
But how do you sell to lady riders? Because geared up young women on
motorcycles are definitely my preference to crusty old guys (No offense to
any crusty old guys you might happen to know. :p).

-Kurt

PS: The redhead best be on an NC700 or one of the CBR250r models. I'd had
to have a split decision between steed and dame. ;p

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Pastor Ron  wrote:

>  I agree about the advertising, but I don’t know about the Goldwing.
> I’ve got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different
> color or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A
> red head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl
> on fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, “Yes, I like the
> brunet” and the other guy says to the camera, “How about you?” That would
> sell Hondas
>
>
>

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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Pastor Ron 
I agree about the advertising, but I don't know about the Goldwing.  I've
got the perfect commercial. Line up all the new bikes with a different color
or cut of hair on each girl as they sit on the back seat of a bike. A red
head, a blond, a brunet, a pony tale, an afro, etc. and a tattooed girl on
fury.  Two guys who are standing there say, One says, "Yes, I like the
brunet" and the other guy says to the camera, "How about you?" That would
sell Hondas

Ron

 

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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

 

Isn't the NC700X a new bike?  Wouldn't you think Honda would be advertising
it a lot more?  I find it confusing at best.  That's a growing market yet
you don't really see anything from Honda.  Like the NT700V, a really great
tweener bike and perfect for the everyday commuter that likes to tour yet
nothing advertised at all.  I'd even add the ST1100's and 1300's into this
mix.  I would guess it's to protect the Goldwing?

Sean

On Friday, September 7, 2012 3:40:42 AM UTC-10, 2006 Nighthawk wrote:

The fury looks bad a...  especially in red.  No Nighthawk in the line-up.

Ron

 

 

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Honda's New bikes

2012-09-10 Thread Hawaii Sean 
Isn't the NC700X a new bike?  Wouldn't you think Honda would be advertising 
it a lot more?  I find it confusing at best.  That's a growing market yet 
you don't really see anything from Honda.  Like the NT700V, a really great 
tweener bike and perfect for the everyday commuter that likes to tour yet 
nothing advertised at all.  I'd even add the ST1100's and 1300's into this 
mix.  I would guess it's to protect the Goldwing?

Sean

On Friday, September 7, 2012 3:40:42 AM UTC-10, 2006 Nighthawk wrote:
>
>  The fury looks bad a…….  especially in red.  No Nighthawk in the line-up.
>
> Ron
>
>  
>
>  
>
>
> http://motorsportsnewswire.wordpress.com/2012/09/05/honda-announces-more-new-models-for-2013-0905121/
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