Re: [NTG-context] is it useful to use the option "--fonts=all" when running first-setup-sh?
Tank you very much Pablo. I'll try that. They are proper latex fonts, tho, so I'm no sure that will do. I also have a background i humanities and book design, but I'm now making math books, go figure. It's very interesting from a typographic point of view. Now I'm more interested in seeing what happens with the last code I sent here, in another message... "Strange behavior in somewhat complex layout" Maybe nobody noticed it. I hope I can figure that out. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] luatex-fonts-merged.lua broken?
Hans, we think that luatex-fonts-merged.lua is broken: It contains in line 8594 return characters.indicgroups (from luatex-basics-chr.lua) and such a return statement is a problem in a merged file. -- Ulrike Fischer https://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] issue with italic correction (again)
> Op 25 jun. 2019 om 21:42 heeft Pablo Rodriguez het volgende > geschreven: > > BTW, I wonder why the second definition of \DesiredFont doesn’t change > the font for the buffer used after it. Using \switchtobodyfont instead of \setupbodyfont for all except the first call should help. You may need to add a \usebodyfont[mainface_corrected] as well (in the setup block). I cannot actually test right now, on a mobile device... Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] issue with italic correction (again)
Dear list, [sorry for insisting, but I have the impression that the previous version of this message went unnoticed.] I have the following sample: \def\DesiredFont{TeX Gyre Termes} \definefontfeature[italic][itlc=yes,textitalics=yes] \setupitaliccorrection[global, always] \definefontfamily [mainface] [rm] [\DesiredFont] \definefontfamily [mainface_corrected] [rm] [\DesiredFont] [features={italic}] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \setupitaliccorrection[global,always] \starttext \startbuffer[chars] \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \dorecurse{26} {\setupbodyfont[mainface]% [{\em \recurselevel}] [{\em \characters{\recurselevel}}] [{\em \Characters{\recurselevel}}] ({\em \characters{\recurselevel}}) ({\em \Characters{\recurselevel}}) \hfill \setupbodyfont[mainface_corrected] [{\em \recurselevel}] [{\em \characters{\recurselevel}}] [{\em \Characters{\recurselevel}}] ({\em \characters{\recurselevel}}) ({\em \Characters{\recurselevel}}) \par} \stopTEXpage \stopbuffer \getbuffer[chars] \def\DesiredFont{TeX Gyre Pagella} \getbuffer[chars] \stoptext This shows that sequences such as ({\em f}) are corrected with the closing parenthesis, but not with the opening one. Wouldn’t it be possible that italic correction could be enabled also before the italic glyph(s)? BTW, I wonder why the second definition of \DesiredFont doesn’t change the font for the buffer used after it. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] is it useful to use the option "--fonts=all" when running first-setup-sh?
On 6/23/19 10:53 PM, Andres Conrado wrote: > Thanks, Pablo. I am assuming I need to have Utopia installed in my usual > font folder. I tried with Erewhon (I have otf files for that) and it > works. Thank you. > > In a related note, is there any reasonable way to use the latex math > font /Math Times Pro 2/ (https://www.pctex.com/mtpro2.html)? I know a > latex user who bought that font and I wonder if I can convince him to > get on the ConTeXt boat. Hi Andrés, I’m afraid that the consistency of message threads suffers with reply to digest messages (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/thread.html). At least, consider editing the subject and removing the irrelevant parts from other messages, as suggested in: > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ntg-context digest..." Don’t get me wrong, a message may get no reply because it goes unnoticed. Regarding Math Times Pro 2, I wonder whether "\definefontfamily[mainface][mm][Math Times Pro 2]" would allow partial usage. But my background is in humanities and math is all Greek to me . Just in cas it might help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 03:33:00PM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:31 PM Rudolf Bahr wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:15:29AM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > > > On 25/06/19 12:30 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > > > > just seen > > > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > > > > > I would like to know your impressions > > > > > > Does it still need proprietary binary blobs in the kernel? Probably > > > yes, so it is as useless as all the models before because it can only > > > run their custom Raspbian distro. > > > > > > > > To this I asked my linux group in Freiburg and got following answer > > in German from Tomas (tuxteam.de): > > > > -- > > Die Antwort darauf ist komplizierter, als es einem lieb sein kann :-) > > > > "Blob" hat da nämlich unterschiedliche Bedeutungen (vermutlich lässt > > sich die Liste verlängern): > > > > (1) zum einen, nicht-freie Treiber, die direkt im Adressraum des Linux > >kernels ausgeführt werden (strenggenommen verletzen sie die GPL, > >aber die Linux-community ist da... "tolerant" [1] > > > > (2) dann ist die eng verwandte "Cousine", die im Kernel zwar einen > >freien "Treiber" hat, der aber nur eine Hülle ist, die die eigentliche > >Arbeit an ein Programm in user space delegiert, das proprietär ist > > > > (3) schliesslich ist es so, dass der Broadcom BCM28xx (oder BCM27xx) [2] > >nicht "nur eine ARM CPU" ist, sondern ganz viele verschiedene > >Subsysteme umfasst (im Jargon ist das ein SoC, ein "System on a Chip"). > >Jedes dieser Subsysteme hat vielleicht einen, vielleicht mehrere > >Prozessoren, am prominentesten beim Raspi ist wohl der > > Grafik-Coprozessor > >(VideoCore IV), der auch zum Booten des ganzen Systems zuständig ist. > >Auch die wollen Code, der auch als Blobs in Erscheinung treten kann, > >die der Linux-Kernel einfach nur durchreicht. > > > > Also: ohne (3) gibt es beim Raspi nicht mal Booten ;-) > > > > Meines Wissens ist Raspi in (1) und (2) weitgehend "sauber" (Korrekturen > > erwünscht!), (3) ist allerdings weitaus schwieriger (es gibt m.W. aber > > auch Leute, die an dessen reverse engineering dran sind). > > > > Broadcom selbst scheint, nach anfänglichem Zögern, diesen Anstrengungen > > freundlich gegenüberzustehen. > > > > Dies alles mit etwas Fehlermarge, da ich schon lange nicht mehr > > reingeschaut habe. Ergänzungen also willkommen (dann lerne ich auch > > was bei ;-) > > > > lg > > > > [1] Ein Thema für sich, an dem, wie mensch sich das auch denken > >kann, so einige Kontroversen entstehen. > > > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi > > - > > > > If anybody is interested I would try to translate it. > > > > > > > sure > > -- > luigi Here, Luigi, my translation: - The answer is more complicated as one could want :-) "Blob" has quite different meanings (the list could be prolongated probably): (1) first, non-free drivers which are executed in the address-room of linux kernel (strictly spoken they offend against GPL, but the Linux-community with respect to this is ... "tolerant") [1] (2) then, there is a nearly related "cousin" who admittedly has a free "driver" but this one is only a cover which delegates the real work to a propriatary program in user space (3) eventually it is so that Broadcom BCM28xx (or BCM27xx) [2] isn't "only an ARM CPU" but contains a bunch of many different subsystems (in jargon a SoC, a "system on a Chip"). Everyone of these subsystems has possibly one, possibly several processors. Presumably the most prominent with the Raspi is the grafic-coprocessor (Videocore IV) which is responsible for booting the whole system too. Also these have code which might become evident as blobs which the linux kernel simply hands through. Consequently: without (3) Raspi wount boot ;-) As far as I know (Tomas, tuxteam.de) with concern to (1) and (2) Raspi to a large extend is "clean" (corrections are welcome!), though (3) is much more difficult (there are, as I think, people who are working on reverse engineering of it). Broadcom, after hesitating initially, seems to be friendly against those efforts. This all is with a bit of error margin, because I didn't look into it for a rather long time. Completions are welcome (then I would learn something too ;-) lg (liebe Grüße) [1] A topic for itself with possibilities to controversies as one can imagine. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi - Be lenient towards my English! Rudolf ___ If
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 3:31 PM Rudolf Bahr wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:15:29AM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > > On 25/06/19 12:30 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > > > just seen > > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > > > I would like to know your impressions > > > > Does it still need proprietary binary blobs in the kernel? Probably > > yes, so it is as useless as all the models before because it can only > > run their custom Raspbian distro. > > > > To this I asked my linux group in Freiburg and got following answer > in German from Tomas (tuxteam.de): > > -- > Die Antwort darauf ist komplizierter, als es einem lieb sein kann :-) > > "Blob" hat da nämlich unterschiedliche Bedeutungen (vermutlich lässt > sich die Liste verlängern): > > (1) zum einen, nicht-freie Treiber, die direkt im Adressraum des Linux >kernels ausgeführt werden (strenggenommen verletzen sie die GPL, >aber die Linux-community ist da... "tolerant" [1] > > (2) dann ist die eng verwandte "Cousine", die im Kernel zwar einen >freien "Treiber" hat, der aber nur eine Hülle ist, die die eigentliche >Arbeit an ein Programm in user space delegiert, das proprietär ist > > (3) schliesslich ist es so, dass der Broadcom BCM28xx (oder BCM27xx) [2] >nicht "nur eine ARM CPU" ist, sondern ganz viele verschiedene >Subsysteme umfasst (im Jargon ist das ein SoC, ein "System on a Chip"). >Jedes dieser Subsysteme hat vielleicht einen, vielleicht mehrere >Prozessoren, am prominentesten beim Raspi ist wohl der > Grafik-Coprozessor >(VideoCore IV), der auch zum Booten des ganzen Systems zuständig ist. >Auch die wollen Code, der auch als Blobs in Erscheinung treten kann, >die der Linux-Kernel einfach nur durchreicht. > > Also: ohne (3) gibt es beim Raspi nicht mal Booten ;-) > > Meines Wissens ist Raspi in (1) und (2) weitgehend "sauber" (Korrekturen > erwünscht!), (3) ist allerdings weitaus schwieriger (es gibt m.W. aber > auch Leute, die an dessen reverse engineering dran sind). > > Broadcom selbst scheint, nach anfänglichem Zögern, diesen Anstrengungen > freundlich gegenüberzustehen. > > Dies alles mit etwas Fehlermarge, da ich schon lange nicht mehr > reingeschaut habe. Ergänzungen also willkommen (dann lerne ich auch > was bei ;-) > > lg > > [1] Ein Thema für sich, an dem, wie mensch sich das auch denken >kann, so einige Kontroversen entstehen. > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi > - > > If anybody is interested I would try to translate it. > > sure -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 10:15:29AM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > On 25/06/19 12:30 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > > just seen > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > I would like to know your impressions > > Does it still need proprietary binary blobs in the kernel? Probably > yes, so it is as useless as all the models before because it can only > run their custom Raspbian distro. To this I asked my linux group in Freiburg and got following answer in German from Tomas (tuxteam.de): -- Die Antwort darauf ist komplizierter, als es einem lieb sein kann :-) "Blob" hat da nämlich unterschiedliche Bedeutungen (vermutlich lässt sich die Liste verlängern): (1) zum einen, nicht-freie Treiber, die direkt im Adressraum des Linux kernels ausgeführt werden (strenggenommen verletzen sie die GPL, aber die Linux-community ist da... "tolerant" [1] (2) dann ist die eng verwandte "Cousine", die im Kernel zwar einen freien "Treiber" hat, der aber nur eine Hülle ist, die die eigentliche Arbeit an ein Programm in user space delegiert, das proprietär ist (3) schliesslich ist es so, dass der Broadcom BCM28xx (oder BCM27xx) [2] nicht "nur eine ARM CPU" ist, sondern ganz viele verschiedene Subsysteme umfasst (im Jargon ist das ein SoC, ein "System on a Chip"). Jedes dieser Subsysteme hat vielleicht einen, vielleicht mehrere Prozessoren, am prominentesten beim Raspi ist wohl der Grafik-Coprozessor (VideoCore IV), der auch zum Booten des ganzen Systems zuständig ist. Auch die wollen Code, der auch als Blobs in Erscheinung treten kann, die der Linux-Kernel einfach nur durchreicht. Also: ohne (3) gibt es beim Raspi nicht mal Booten ;-) Meines Wissens ist Raspi in (1) und (2) weitgehend "sauber" (Korrekturen erwünscht!), (3) ist allerdings weitaus schwieriger (es gibt m.W. aber auch Leute, die an dessen reverse engineering dran sind). Broadcom selbst scheint, nach anfänglichem Zögern, diesen Anstrengungen freundlich gegenüberzustehen. Dies alles mit etwas Fehlermarge, da ich schon lange nicht mehr reingeschaut habe. Ergänzungen also willkommen (dann lerne ich auch was bei ;-) lg [1] Ein Thema für sich, an dem, wie mensch sich das auch denken kann, so einige Kontroversen entstehen. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi - If anybody is interested I would try to translate it. Best wishes, Rudolf ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On 25/06/2019, 09:15:43, luigi scarso wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:15 AM Henri Menke wrote: > > > On 25/06/19 12:30 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > > > just seen > > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > > > I would like to know your impressions > > > > Does it still need proprietary binary blobs in the kernel? > > > dunno > From the page you linked: Raspberry Pi packages [...] - linux-firmware-raspi2 - GPU firmware bootloader files and pi 3 wifi firmware file - linux-raspi2 (linux-image-raspi2) - Linux kernel with patches from https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux - u-boot-rpi - Provides u-boot.bin - flash-kernel - Automatically copies the latest kernel, dtb file and u-boot script to the pi's fat formatted GPU firmware partition So yes, there is a whole bunch of non-free stuff required to even boot the system. > > > > > so it is as useless as all the models before because it can only > > run their custom Raspbian distro. > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi > 18.04.2 both 32bit and 64bit work > > -- > luigi > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 9:15 AM luigi scarso wrote: > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi > 18.04.2 both 32bit and 64bit work > > I mean in raspberry 3B & 3B+, pi4 is slightly different : https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-92641/l/raspberry-pi-4-model-b-frequently-asked-questions-faq but I expect that ubuntu will run ok -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] rasperry 4
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:15 AM Henri Menke wrote: > On 25/06/19 12:30 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > > just seen > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/ > > > > I would like to know your impressions > > Does it still need proprietary binary blobs in the kernel? dunno > > so it is as useless as all the models before because it can only > run their custom Raspbian distro. > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi 18.04.2 both 32bit and 64bit work -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___