Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products

[Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica via ntg-context]

Alan,

I'm attaching the two master files used for the following (also ran
cross refs between
each vol.):

Murugaiyan, Appasamy & Parlier-Renault, Édith (2021) (Eds) Whispering
of Inscriptions:
South Indian Epigraphy and Art History: Papers from an International
Symposium in
memory of Professor Noboru Karashima (Paris, 12–13 October 2017).
Oxford: Indica et
Buddhica. (2 vols)

https://indica-et-buddhica.com/publications/murugaiyan-appasamy-parlier-renault-edith/whispering-of-inscriptions-south-indian-epigraphy-and-art-history


Best, Richard


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Hello,

I have a book project that is being cut into two volumes (because it
is
too long and will be sold as a boxed set).

Each volume is presently a separate *product* in the project
structure.
I presently set the counters in the second volume using:

\setupheadnumber
  [part] [2]

\setupheadnumber
  [chapter] [5]

(I have multiple [5] parts in the project, and the first volume ends
with part 2 and chapter 5.)


1) Is this the right way to be handling this?

2) Any suggestions on how I can put a Table of Contents for the first
volume in the second volume?

Thanks!

Alan
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% master000.tex – ConTeXt MkIV Module

\startproduct master000

\project iebpmonographs

\environment ieb-c-layout-000

\environment monograph-local-layout

\usemodule[statistical-charts]

% \enabletrackers[typesetters.suspects]

% \showbodyfont

% \showbodyfontenvironment

\useexternaldocument[m001][master001][Whispering of Inscriptions,
Vol.~{\sc ii}]


\startfrontmatter

\component tlpg000

{

\setupheadtext[content=Contents of Vol.~i.]

\setupheadertexts[Contents of
Vol.~i.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Contents of Vol.~i.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completecontent

\PY

\PB

}

{

\setupheadtext[tables=Tables of Vol.~i.]

\setupheadertexts[Tables of Vol.~i.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Tables
of Vol.~i.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completelistoftables

\PY

\PB

}

{

\setupheadtext[figures=Figures of Vol.~i.]

\setupheadertexts[Figures of Vol.~i.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Figures
of Vol.~i.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completelistoffigures

\PY

}

\component ackn % A. Murugaiyan & E. Parlier-Renault

\component pref % A. Murugaiyan & E. Parlier-Renault

\component intr % Y. Subbarayalu

\stopfrontmatter


\startbodymatter

\setcounter[userpage][1]

\component chp02 % Y. Subbarayalu

\component chp01 % V. Gillet

\component chp03 % G. Vijayavenugopal

\component chp04 % E. Francis

\component chp05 % N. Athiyaman

\component chp06 % V. Selvakumar

\component chp07 % S. Rajavelu

\component chp08 % A. Murugaiyan

\component chp09 % S. Brocquet

\stopbodymatter


% \startbackmatter

% \component indx

% \stopbackmatter


\stopproduct
% master001.tex – ConTeXt MkIV Module

\startproduct master001

\project iebpmonographs

\environment ieb-c-layout-001

\environment monograph-local-layout

% \enabletrackers[typesetters.suspects]

% \showbodyfont

% \showbodyfontenvironment

\useexternaldocument[m000][master000][Whispering of Inscriptions,
Vol.~{\sc i}]


\startfrontmatter

\component tlpg001

{

\setupheadtext[content=Contents of Vol.~ii.]

\setupheadertexts[Contents of
Vol.~ii.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Contents of Vol.~ii.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completecontent

\PY

\PB

}

{

\setupheadtext[tables=Tables of Vol.~ii.]

\setupheadertexts[Tables of Vol.~ii.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Tables
of Vol.~ii.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completelistoftables

\PY

\PB

}

{

\setupheadtext[figures=Figures of Vol.~ii.]

\setupheadertexts[Figures of
Vol.~ii.][pagenumber][pagenumber][Figures of Vol.~ii.]

\noheaderandfooterlines

\completelistoffigures

\PY

}

\stopfrontmatter


\startbodymatter

\setcounter[userpage][1]

\component chp10 % P. Estienne

\component chp11 % V. Renganathan

\component chp12 % C. Schmid

\component chp13 % K. Rajan

\component chp14 % A. Davrinche

\component chp15 % M. Le Sauce-Carnis

\component chp16 % V. Olivier

\component chp17 % K. Ladrech

\component chp18 % E. Par

Re: [NTG-context] Structure: multi-volume products

[Alan Braslau via ntg-context]

On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 22:31:59 +1300
Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica 
wrote:

> Alan,
> 
> I'm attaching the two master files used for the following (also ran
> cross refs between
> each vol.):
> 
> Murugaiyan, Appasamy & Parlier-Renault, Édith (2021) (Eds) Whispering
> of Inscriptions:
> South Indian Epigraphy and Art History: Papers from an International
> Symposium in
> memory of Professor Noboru Karashima (Paris, 12–13 October 2017).
> Oxford: Indica et
> Buddhica. (2 vols)
> 
> https://indica-et-buddhica.com/publications/murugaiyan-appasamy-parlier-renault-edith/whispering-of-inscriptions-south-indian-epigraphy-and-art-history
> 
> 
> Best, Richard
> 
> 

Shared to the list, without the attached files. Based on the command:

\useexternaldocument
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/useexternaldocument

I'll make a solution Wiki page on the garden once I learn how this
works.

Alan
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[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: LMTX 2021.03.02 | cross reference to an external file | \pagereference

[Richard Mahoney]

Wolfgang [and Hans ],

I'm attaching a minimal(ish) example of a project structure with
a call to \pagereference. One can see from the output of master000.tex
that the cross references to an external file all work, *apart* from
the call to \pagereference. (This is the same issue that I am having
with
my two volume proceedings.)

I'd be grateful for suggestions.


Best, Richard


% testproject.tex -- LMTX 2021.03.02

\startproject testproject

\product testproduct000

\product testproduct001

\stopproject



% master000.tex -- LMTX 2021.03.02

\startproduct testproduct000

\project testproject

\startbodymatter

\component boo.tex

\stopbodymatter

\stopproduct


% master001.tex -- LMTX 2021.03.02

\startproduct testproduct001

\project testproject

\startbodymatter

\component foo.tex

\stopbodymatter

\stopproduct



% boo.tex -- LMTX 2021.03.02

\startcomponent boo

\project testproject

\product testproduct000

\useexternaldocument[m001][master001][Test Product, Vol.~{\sc ii}]

\chapter[oeps]{oeps}

test \from[m001], \in{Ch.~}[m001::one], \at{page}[m001::one] {[}test
page one{]}

test \from[m001], \in{Ch.~}[m001::one], \at{page}[m001::page-
reference] {[}test {\bf pagereference}{]}

test \from[m001], \in{Ch.~}[m001::two], \at{page}[m001::two] {[}test
page two{]}

\stopcomponent




% foo.tex -- LMTX 2021.03.02

\startcomponent foo

\project testproject

\product testproduct001

\chapter[one]{one}

\pagereference[page-reference]foo

\chapter[two]{two}

foo

\stopcomponent







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Thanks Wolfgang,

Hans kindly sent me a simple minimal. I've adjusted it to include a
call
to \pagereference and it works. I'm currently trying to test my
project
to see why my own calls to \pagereference do not result in any output,
despite the fact that all the calls to the reference ids in chapters
work
as expected. I'm imagining at this point that it has something to do
with
using two master files --one for each volume-- with multiple includes
(\components) for each chapter  -- the \pagereference code appears
in a number of the components.

I'll try to set up a simple example replicating the file structure I'm
using
and then send it through.


Best, Richard



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Richard Mahoney schrieb am 04.03.2021 
um 09:04:

>   
>   Readers,
>   
> 
>   I'm working on a couple of volumes of papers set up and generated
>   separately (though within the same project). Some of the papers 
> in
>   the second volume make cross references to papers in the first.
>   Now this is working well so long as the reference is to the 
> details
>   associated with, say, a chapter, using \about, \in, and \at. Its 
> doesn't
>   seem to work though with \pagereference: no page number appears
>   in the PDF whatsoever. I have  been following the material here:
>   
> 
>   
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/References#References_to_an_external_file
>   
> 
>   I'm wondering then ... do cross references to an external file 
> work
>   with \pagereference? 
> 
>   


Hi Richard,



I just tested \pagereference in a simple example and had no problem
to 
get

the page numbers from the other document. Without a minimal example

there is no way to tell what's missing in your document.



Wolfgang




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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 23.04.20 um 19:25 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> 
>> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:36 schrieb Jan U. Hasecke :
>>
>> Am 23.04.20 um 16:10 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:
>>> Please see the page about '\goto' command, it was written for a reason!
>>
>> Ok, with \goto{linkname}[program(target.doc)] it works.
>>
>> "works" means some PDF Viewers opens the right program.
> 
> 
> In the beginning, you could even start programs with program(...), but Adobe 
> recognized soon this might be a security problem.
> 
> Nowadays, the “best” behaviour is when the viewer asks you if you really want 
> to open such a link but then hands control to the OS.
> 
> Last time I checked, Adobe Reader even let you open hidden files from 
> arbitrary paths.
> 
> Several other viewers just do nothing.

Yes this is not bullet proofed but I need it for internal usage. I think
we'll have many okular users.

juh

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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Am 23.04.2020 um 16:36 schrieb Jan U. Hasecke :
> 
> Am 23.04.20 um 16:10 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:
>> Please see the page about '\goto' command, it was written for a reason!
> 
> Ok, with \goto{linkname}[program(target.doc)] it works.
> 
> "works" means some PDF Viewers opens the right program.


In the beginning, you could even start programs with program(...), but Adobe 
recognized soon this might be a security problem.

Nowadays, the “best” behaviour is when the viewer asks you if you really want 
to open such a link but then hands control to the OS.

Last time I checked, Adobe Reader even let you open hidden files from arbitrary 
paths.

Several other viewers just do nothing.

Best, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 23.04.20 um 16:10 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:
> Please see the page about '\goto' command, it was written for a reason!

Ok, with \goto{linkname}[program(target.doc)] it works.

"works" means some PDF Viewers opens the right program.


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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Vladimir Lomov]

Hello,
** Jan U. Hasecke  [2020-04-23 15:35:54 +0200]:

> Am 23.04.20 um 14:22 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:

>> Otherwise could you describe what exactly you want to achive?

> This works:

> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> \starttext
> \goto{linkname}[file(target.pdf)]
> \stoptext

> This does not work:

> \setupinteraction[state=start]
> \setupcolors[state=start]
> \starttext
> \goto{linkname}[file(target.doc)]
> \stoptext

What do you mean "work" and "not work"?

Do you what to open a file by clicking on text in viewer? What application
should be used to open a file? Take a look on page I linked in previous
message.

> The PDF Viewer does not support the file type.

What "PDF Viewer"?

For example, I use different viewers: mupdf, zathura-pdf-mupdf (zathura with
mupdf pdf backend), okular, pdf-tools (emacs major mode). Some of application
(okular, for example) could preview many file types (ps, pdf, odt), while
other can't do that. It is up to application what to do (or actually, PDF
backend) on link.

Please see the page about '\goto' command, it was written for a reason!

> TIA
> juh

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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 23.04.20 um 14:22 schrieb Vladimir Lomov:
> Otherwise could you describe what exactly you want to achive?

This works:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\goto{linkname}[file(target.pdf)]
\stoptext

This does not work:

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
\goto{linkname}[file(target.doc)]
\stoptext

The PDF Viewer does not support the file type.

TIA
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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Vladimir Lomov]

Hello,
** Jan U. Hasecke  [2020-04-23 12:21:27 +0200]:

> Hi Wolfgang,

> thanks for the fast reply.

> Am 23.04.20 um 12:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Jan U. Hasecke schrieb am 23.04.2020 um 11:54:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> can I link to a file with custom file type eg. OpenDocument with
>>> \useexternaldocument?
>>>
>>> This does not work.
>>>
>>> \useexternaldocument[test][test.ods][A test document]
>>>
>>> As the PDF viewer is opened first, it does not recognize the file type.
>> 
>> The \useexternaldocument is used to access referecens from other ConTeXt
>> documents.

> Ok. No way to link to other file types from the pdf?

May be you after this one 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/goto
?

Otherwise could you describe what exactly you want to achive?

>> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/095564.html

> I must confess that I don't understand this utilitydata-Thread.


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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Hi Wolfgang,

thanks for the fast reply.

Am 23.04.20 um 12:06 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> Jan U. Hasecke schrieb am 23.04.2020 um 11:54:
>> Hi,
>>
>> can I link to a file with custom file type eg. OpenDocument with
>> \useexternaldocument?
>>
>> This does not work.
>>
>> \useexternaldocument[test][test.ods][A test document]
>>
>> As the PDF viewer is opened first, it does not recognize the file type.
> 
> The \useexternaldocument is used to access referecens from other ConTeXt
> documents.

Ok. No way to link to other file types from the pdf?

> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/095564.html

I must confess that I don't understand this utilitydata-Thread.


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Re: [NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Jan U. Hasecke schrieb am 23.04.2020 um 11:54:

Hi,

can I link to a file with custom file type eg. OpenDocument with
\useexternaldocument?

This does not work.

\useexternaldocument[test][test.ods][A test document]

As the PDF viewer is opened first, it does not recognize the file type.


The \useexternaldocument is used to access referecens from other ConTeXt 
documents.


https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2019/095564.html

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[NTG-context] useexternaldocument with custom file type

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Hi,

can I link to a file with custom file type eg. OpenDocument with
\useexternaldocument?

This does not work.

\useexternaldocument[test][test.ods][A test document]

As the PDF viewer is opened first, it does not recognize the file type.

juh
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Re: [NTG-context] goto

[Willi Egger]

Hello Hans,

I read your post today ;-|

In the past, that is in the pdfTeX time, I used this feature as follows:

\useexternaldocument[Taptones][c_tap-tones.pdf][Chapter about using tap-tones]

\starttext

This is a test to jump to another file
\goto{Jump to tap-tones}[Taptones::]

\stoptext

I tested it with a recent version of MKIV and it works.

I hope this can help you setup your project successfully.

Willi

On 18 okt. 2015, at 11:49, Meer, Hans van der <h.vanderm...@uva.nl> wrote:
> 
> I would like to be able to go directly to a local document by an interaction 
> statement. The \goto command seems to be meant for this.
> However, the descriptions in the command reference and the Wiki do not 
> explain all of its parameters:
> In \goto{1}{2}[3] parameters 1 and 2 are marked CONTEXT and 3 is marked 
> REFERENCE. I could find parameter {1} typeset in the text and [3] as the 
> reference in for example a \placefigure.
> 
> What is {2} supposed to do? \goto{}Something}[] does not places Something to 
> find.
> 
> I tried to effect the jump to a document on my system with
> \goto{local-doc}[/Volumes/Users/myhome/Documents/myfigure.jpg]
> but this does not works as I hoped.
> 
> How to?
> 
> Hans van der Meer
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[Jens Bertram]

On 09.09.2015 01:43, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 9/8/2015 9:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hans Hagen <mailto:pra...@wxs.nl>
11. August 2015 11:48


i have no clue what you're talking about

There is a bug in the reference mechanism between documents.


not so much a bug but the current mechanism assumes a project/component
struture



Hi,
I'm also struggeling with cross-referencing in a project/component 
layout. I attached a minimal example that resembles the layout I use.

If you compile xr-prod1 and xr-prod2 all cross-references are simply empty.

I looked at the lua code to see if I'm able to fix it myself and 
stumbled over the 'identify_inner(set,var,prefix,collected,derived)' 
function in strc-ref.lua (at around line 1396 in MKVI from 2015.09.04 
11:00). It look like identify_inner gets sometimes called with 'prefix' 
set to nil while 'derived' is also undefined (at 1493 and 1514). If I 
get the program flow right this looks suspicious, as it always retuns 
'false' from 'identify_inner'. If I add 'prefix = prefix or ""' to 
'identify_inner' I actually get references printed in the test case. 
However the links are not working and for the figure the section number 
is wrong.


Finally looking at the uncompressed PDF I can see that references are 
set not prefixed in xr-prod2.pdf (i.e. link to 'plain'), but are 
prefixed in xr-prod1.pdf (anchor is 'xr-comp1-1:plain').


Maybe these informations can help in resolving the issue. :)


i'll see if i can catch the non structured variant


When you produce a PDF from the attached documents you can use the
hyperlinks to jump to the chapter page in the other document but no
information is printed because the information with the section number,
page number or title isn’t loaded (can be seen in the tracker
information in the log).

Wolfgang



\enabletrackers[
	system.jobfiles,
	structures.referencing,
	structures.referencing.importing,
	structures.referencing.identifying]
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\useexternaldocument[xr1][xr-prod1][XR Product One]
\useexternaldocument[xr2][xr-prod2][XR Product Two]
\nopdfcompression

\startproject xr-proj
	\product xr-prod1
	\product xr-prod2
\stopproject

\startcomponent xr-comp2-1
	\starttext
		plain\\
		ABOUT: \about[xr1::plain]\\
		IN: \in[xr1::plain]\\
		AT: \at[xr1::plain]
		
		page2\\
		ABOUT: \about[xr1::pagetwo]\\
		IN: \in[xr1::pagetwo]\\
		AT: \at[xr1::pagetwo]
		
		figone\\
		ABOUT: \about[xr1::figone]\\
		IN: \in[xr1::figone]\\
		AT: \at[xr1::figone]
		
		figtwo\\
		ABOUT: \about[xr1::figtwo]\\
		IN: \in[xr1::figtwo]\\
		AT: \at[xr1::figtwo]
	\stoptext
\stopcomponent

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\startcomponent xr-comp1-1
	\startchapter[reference=plain, title={Plain chapter}]
		Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.
	\stopchapter
	\page
	\startchapter[reference=pagetwo, title={Plain chapter page two}]
		Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.
		\startsection[reference=secwithpic, title={Section with image}]
			\startplacefigure[reference=figone, title={Figure 1}]
\externalfigure[cow.pdf]
			\stopplacefigure
		\stopsection
	\stopchapter

	\startchapter[reference=chaptwo, title={Plain chapter two}]
		Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit.
		\startsection[reference=sectwowithpic, title={Section chap2 with image}]
			\startplacefigure[reference=figtwo, title={Figure 2}]
\externalfigure[cow.pdf]
			\stopplacefigure
		\stopsection
	\stopchapter
\stopcomponent

\project xr-proj
\startproduct xr-prod1
	\component xr-comp1-1
\stopproduct

\project xr-proj
\startproduct xr-prod2
	\component xr-comp2-1
\stopproduct

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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen 
9. September 2015 01:43
On 9/8/2015 9:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hans Hagen 
11. August 2015 11:48


i have no clue what you're talking about

There is a bug in the reference mechanism between documents.


not so much a bug but the current mechanism assumes a 
project/component struture


i'll see if i can catch the non structured variant

The same happens when you link from on product to another.

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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen 
11. August 2015 11:48


i have no clue what you're talking about

There is a bug in the reference mechanism between documents.

When you produce a PDF from the attached documents you can use the 
hyperlinks to jump to the chapter page in the other document but no 
information is printed because the information with the section number, 
page number or title isn’t loaded (can be seen in the tracker 
information in the log).


Wolfgang


one.tex
Description: TeX document


two.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/8/2015 9:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Hans Hagen 
11. August 2015 11:48


i have no clue what you're talking about

There is a bug in the reference mechanism between documents.


not so much a bug but the current mechanism assumes a project/component 
struture


i'll see if i can catch the non structured variant


When you produce a PDF from the attached documents you can use the
hyperlinks to jump to the chapter page in the other document but no
information is printed because the information with the section number,
page number or title isn’t loaded (can be seen in the tracker
information in the log).

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[Hans Hagen]

On 8/11/2015 11:00 AM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hans, it would be great to have the numbers appearing again sometime in
the future (if it is a bug or a not-yet implemented feature indeed). I
couldn’t find anything in the documentation suggesting not to structure
things this way.


i have no clue what you're talking about


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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[tala...@fastmail.fm]

Sorry for not being clear. The original question was whether cross-referencing 
in a project can only be done between components, or if they can also be done 
between products. I could never get the latter to work.

Wolfgang confirmed that in MkII, intra-product cross-referencing works (even 
with the examples I had posted),but not in MkIV. He speculated that the numbers 
in the references were not appearing in MkIV due to a bug, or because the 
feature was not implemented.

Best wishes,
Talal

 On 11 Aug 2015, at 10:48, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 
 On 8/11/2015 11:00 AM, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hans, it would be great to have the numbers appearing again sometime in
 the future (if it is a bug or a not-yet implemented feature indeed). I
 couldn’t find anything in the documentation suggesting not to structure
 things this way.
 
 i have no clue what you're talking about
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[tala...@fastmail.fm]

Hans, it would be great to have the numbers appearing again sometime in the 
future (if it is a bug or a not-yet implemented feature indeed). I couldn’t 
find anything in the documentation suggesting not to structure things this way.

Best wishes,
Talal

 On 10 Aug 2015, at 21:33, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 tala...@fastmail.fm mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm 6. August 2015 19:00
 Perhaps I might ask a more preliminary question: when using project 
 structure, is cross-document referencing possible between two product files, 
 or only between two component files within a single product file?
 You can create hyperlinks between different products and your example (I 
 slightly modified it) works as expected with MkII where I get the chapter 
 number in the links.
 
 The missing numbers with MkIV can be a bug or not yet implemented.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

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tala...@fastmail.fm mailto:tala...@fastmail.fm
6. August 2015 19:00
Perhaps I might ask a more preliminary question: when using project 
structure, is cross-document referencing possible between two product 
files, or only between two component files within a single product file?
You can create hyperlinks between different products and your example (I 
slightly modified it) works as expected with MkII where I get the 
chapter number in the links.


The missing numbers with MkIV can be a bug or not yet implemented.

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Re: [NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[tala...@fastmail.fm]

Perhaps I might ask a more preliminary question: when using project structure, 
is cross-document referencing possible between two product files, or only 
between two component files within a single product file?

Kind regards,
Talal

 On 5 Aug 2015, at 13:15, tala...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 
 I am trying to create cross references between two documents in my project. 
 Links between the two are successfully made, but the actual page numbers are 
 not being printed (which, for my purposes, are what I actually need, not 
 links). Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known bug (such that I 
 should cease my attempts)? Is \useexternaldocument the wrong command for this 
 purpose? Minimum example files below:
 
 % project
 \project project_xref
 \startproduct prd_xref
 \component xref1
 \component xref2
 \stopproduct
 
 % product
 \startproject project_xref
 \environment env_xref
 \product prd_xref
 \stopproject
 
 % environment
 \startenvironment env_xref
 \setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]
 \stopenvironment
 
 % component1 [xref1]
 \project project_xref
 \startcomponent xref1
 \starttext
 \chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}
 \chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
 \stoptext
 \stopcomponent
 
 % component2 [xref2]
 \project project_xref
 \startcomponent xref2
 \useexternaldocument[xrf][xref1]
 \starttext
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
 \in{Chapter}[xrf::lorem].
 \stoptext
 \stopcomponent
 
 All the best,
 Talal
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[NTG-context] cross-references between documents in a project (using \useexternaldocument)

[tala...@fastmail.fm]

Dear all,

I am trying to create cross references between two documents in my project. 
Links between the two are successfully made, but the actual page numbers are 
not being printed (which, for my purposes, are what I actually need, not 
links). Am I doing something wrong, or is this a known bug (such that I should 
cease my attempts)? Is \useexternaldocument the wrong command for this purpose? 
Minimum example files below:

% project
\project project_xref
\startproduct prd_xref
\component xref1
\component xref2
\stopproduct

% product
\startproject project_xref
\environment env_xref
\product prd_xref
\stopproject

% environment
\startenvironment env_xref
\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]
\stopenvironment

% component1 [xref1]
\project project_xref
\startcomponent xref1
\starttext
\chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}
\chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
\stoptext
\stopcomponent

% component2 [xref2]
\project project_xref
\startcomponent xref2
\useexternaldocument[xrf][xref1]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
\in{Chapter}[xrf::lorem].
\stoptext
\stopcomponent

All the best,
Talal
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[NTG-context] Broken (invisible) external cross-references

[Jean-Philippe Rey]

Hello,

I am using external cross-references (across multiple files) and this seems to 
have been broken for a few months.

Here is my minimal example:

% file test_crossref1.tex
\starttext
\chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
\stoptext

% file test_crossref2.tex
\useexternaldocument[xref][test_crossref1]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
\in{Chapter}[xref::lorem].
\stoptext


I get the correct reference Chapter 1. in test_crossref2 with a ConTeXt 
version from March:

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.78.2 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4746) 
ConTeXt  ver: 2014.03.22 15:31 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.3.22  int: english/english

With more recent versions (including the last one downloaded this morning), the 
chapter number doesn't appear in test_crossref2, I only get Chapter ., not 
even ??. There isn't any error message in the log file. The internal cross 
reference (in test_crossref1) still works fine. I have the same faulty result 
with these three versions:

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972) 
ConTeXt  ver: 2014.07.30 10:31 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.8.9  int: english/english

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972) 
ConTeXt  ver: 2014.09.06 20:59 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.9.11  int: english/english

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.79.1 (TeX Live 2014/dev) (rev 4972) 
ConTeXt  ver: 2014.12.05 11:11 MKIV beta  fmt: 2014.12.5  int: english/english


Is this a bug or did something change in the way to build references from 
external files.

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Re: [NTG-context] links to external documents

[Alan Bowen]

Hi, Hans--

The LinkTest file does not work with either ConTeXt  ver: 2014.04.04 or my
backup installation, ConTeXt  ver: 2014.02.14. Do I things properly encoded?

Alan


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Hans--

 The new beta now processes without interruption but does not actually
 collect and display the reference.

 All I get right now is:

 page   note

 rather than

 page 1 note 1

 The setup (revised)--


 %testA.tex

 \starttext


 text text.\reference[firstpage]{}


 text text.\footnote[fnote]{A note.}


 \stoptext


 %LinkTest.tex

 \setupinteraction[state=start]


 \useexternaldocument[testA.tex]

 \usereferences[testA.tex]


 \starttext


 \at{page}[testA::firstpage]


 \in{note}[testA::fnote]


 \stoptext


 Alan




 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Hans--for the new beta *and* the tip about the filename.

 Alan


 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 4/2/2014 9:11 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 I am exploring the feasibility of presenting two interacting PDF files
 side by side. Thus far my experiments with \usereferences have managed
 only to produce  a lua error:


 fixed in next beta (there can be more issues for a while as i'm cleanign
 up that code)

 btw, no .tex in:

 \at{page}[testA::firstpage]




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Re: [NTG-context] links to external documents

[Alan Bowen]

Hi, Hans--

The new beta now processes without interruption but does not actually
collect and display the reference.

All I get right now is:

page   note

rather than

page 1 note 1

The setup (revised)--


%testA.tex

\starttext


text text.\reference[firstpage]{}


text text.\footnote[fnote]{A note.}


\stoptext


%LinkTest.tex

\setupinteraction[state=start]


\useexternaldocument[testA.tex]

\usereferences[testA.tex]


\starttext


\at{page}[testA::firstpage]


\in{note}[testA::fnote]


\stoptext


Alan




On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Alan Bowen bowenala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Hans--for the new beta *and* the tip about the filename.

 Alan


 On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 4/2/2014 9:11 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

 I am exploring the feasibility of presenting two interacting PDF files
 side by side. Thus far my experiments with \usereferences have managed
 only to produce  a lua error:


 fixed in next beta (there can be more issues for a while as i'm cleanign
 up that code)

 btw, no .tex in:

 \at{page}[testA::firstpage]




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[NTG-context] links to external documents

[Alan Bowen]

I am exploring the feasibility of presenting two interacting PDF files side
by side. Thus far my experiments with \usereferences have managed only to
produce  a lua error:

.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1394: attempt
to call field 'reference' (a nil value)

stack traceback:

.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1394: in
function 'identify_outer'

.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1620: in
function 'identify'

.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1645: in
function 'valid'

.../ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-ref.lua:1667: in
function 'doifelsereference'

 [\directlua]:1: in main chunk

The setup--

%testA.tex
\starttext

text text.\reference[firstpage]{}

text text.\footnote[fnote]{A note.}

\stoptext

%LinkTest.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]

\useexternaldocument[testA.tex]
\usereferences[testA.tex]

\starttext

\at{page}[testA.tex::firstpage]

\in{note}[testA.tex::fnote]

\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Cross-document referencing problem!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

Hi ConTeXt User's,

Again I'm struggling with cross-document referencing! The page of the 
\pagereference[def] command is shown correctly in the pdf result of the 
attached test.tex file using \at{page}[def]!


However when I refer to this reference using \at{page}[tst::def] from 
the external document crossref.pdf only the 'page' string is displayed 
in it, but no sign of the page number. Clicking the page string brings 
me to the correct location, but I'm missing the pagenumber itself?


Both tex-files (minimal example!) files are attached!

Regards,
Gerard Verhaag

P.S. Currently I use ConTeXt  ver: 2012.02.18 10:50 MKIV  fmt: 
2012.2.18  int: english/english together with Acrobat Reader 9.4.2 on 
Linux box.
% Crossref file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\useexternaldocument[tst][test][Een test external] % External file called: test.tex

Most \from[tst] from \in{section}[tst::crosssection].

At \at{\it p. }[tst::crosssection]

At \at{page}[tst::def]

\stoptext

% Test file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test External File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}

\section[abc]{Abc}

\dorecurse{170}
  {A test of cross referencing to exernal document!}

\section[crosssection]{Def}

Another section starts right here!

\page[yes]

\pagereference[def]

At \at{page}[def]!

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing a Document within the same Project

[Hans Hagen]

On 21-3-2012 05:57, Malte Stien wrote:

Hi all,

I am designing a document suite consisting of two dozen or so documents that 
are all interrelated. I was wondering whether there is a way that I can define 
a reference point for an entire document within a project and then refer to 
that from another document, like

   \document{global-definitions-document} % This is fictitious syntax

in one document and then refer to that in another document:

   For global definitions, please see \about{global-definitions-document}.

or something along those lines.


the most simple way is:

\goto{Some Other Document}[someotherfile::]

otherwise go the \useexternaldocument route with symbolic names and such


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with external cross-references

[Jean-Philippe Rey]

Hello Hans,

Le 2 mars 2012 à 20:59, Hans Hagen a écrit :

 On 25-2-2012 17:47, Jean-Philippe Rey wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 I'm trying to use external cross-references between two files but I can't 
 make it work with MkIV. I am using ConTeXt current
 
 ConTeXt  ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV  fmt: 2011.7.31  int: english/english
 
 
 With MkII, the following minimal example works perfectly well :
 
 % file test_crossref1
 \starttext
 \chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
 \stoptext
 
 % file test_crossref2
 \usereferences[test_crossref1]
 \starttext
 Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
 \stoptext
 
 \useexternaldocument[xref][test_crossref1]
 
 \starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
 \in{Chapter}[xref::lorem].
 \stoptext

Thank you for your answer, but it doesn't work. I still get an undefined 
reference and the following lines in the log file

references   references from document 'test_crossref1' are not exported
references   unknown reference [][xref::lorem]


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with external cross-references

[Hans Hagen]

On 25-2-2012 17:47, Jean-Philippe Rey wrote:

Hello everybody,

I'm trying to use external cross-references between two files but I can't make 
it work with MkIV. I am using ConTeXt current

ConTeXt  ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV  fmt: 2011.7.31  int: english/english


With MkII, the following minimal example works perfectly well :

% file test_crossref1
\starttext
\chapter[lorem]{Lorem}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
\stoptext

% file test_crossref2
\usereferences[test_crossref1]
\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit \in{Chapter}[lorem].
\stoptext


\useexternaldocument[xref][test_crossref1]

\starttext
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit 
\in{Chapter}[xref::lorem].

\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing not working!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 02/10/2012 11:59 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi Verhaag,

I just tested your example files: both with mkiv and mkii, ConTeXt version 
2011.11.29, the cross-referencing does work as expected in Adobe Reader. 
However when clicking to the link « Een test external », Adobe opens the 
external file and closes the original file (maybe this is the wanted behavior…).

With newer versions of ConTeXt I have are some other problems and I did not 
test your example. So if you are in a hurry, you may use ConTeXt version 
2011.11.29.

Best regards: OK

On 8 févr. 2012, at 16:31, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

   

Hi ConTeXt User's,

I'm struggling with cross-document referencing, but can't get it working!

When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test external] 
together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly opened in Acrobat 
Reader.

But the \in{section}[tst::crossref] doesn't open the test.pdf file at all?! The 
jump to the 'crossref' section doesn't seem to work! Please take a look at the 
two included test files.

I first compile test.tex followed by the compilation of crossref.tex. Currently 
I use: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.01.25 14:16 MKIV  fmt: 2012.2.7  int: english/english.

Regards,
Gerard Verhaag

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...
   


Hi,

Returning to an older version is not really an option because of other 
features not working!


But maybe it's not a ConTeXt problem but an Acrobat Reader problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing not working!

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Verhaag,

I just tested your example files: both with mkiv and mkii, ConTeXt version 
2011.11.29, the cross-referencing does work as expected in Adobe Reader. 
However when clicking to the link « Een test external », Adobe opens the 
external file and closes the original file (maybe this is the wanted behavior…).

With newer versions of ConTeXt I have are some other problems and I did not 
test your example. So if you are in a hurry, you may use ConTeXt version 
2011.11.29.

Best regards: OK

On 8 févr. 2012, at 16:31, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

 Hi ConTeXt User's,
 
 I'm struggling with cross-document referencing, but can't get it working!
 
 When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test external] 
 together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly opened in Acrobat 
 Reader.
 
 But the \in{section}[tst::crossref] doesn't open the test.pdf file at all?! 
 The jump to the 'crossref' section doesn't seem to work! Please take a look 
 at the two included test files.
 
 I first compile test.tex followed by the compilation of crossref.tex. 
 Currently I use: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.01.25 14:16 MKIV  fmt: 2012.2.7  int: 
 english/english.
 
 Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing not working!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 02/09/2012 12:30 AM, Pontus Lurcock wrote:

On Wed 08 Feb 2012, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

   

When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test
external] together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly
opened in Acrobat Reader.

But the \in{section}[tst::crossref] doesn't open the test.pdf file
at all?! The jump to the 'crossref' section doesn't seem to work!
Please take a look at the two included test files.

I first compile test.tex followed by the compilation of
crossref.tex. Currently I use: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.01.25 14:16 MKIV
fmt: 2012.2.7  int: english/english.
 

I get the same behaviour as you (context MkIV 2011.10.01, Adobe Reader
9.4, Linux) -- reference to file works, reference to section doesn't.
But I don't know how to fix it.

Pont

   

Hi,

Thanks for confirming the problem, so it looks like a bug?!

Nobody else has reported this problem, does that mean that this feature 
is not being used, or has it been working in the past?


Hopefully Hans reads this mail, and can fix the problem. I want to use 
the feature in a new project, and noticed it while doing some tests!


Regards,
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[NTG-context] Cross-document referencing not working!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

Hi ConTeXt User's,

I'm struggling with cross-document referencing, but can't get it working!

When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test external] 
together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly opened in 
Acrobat Reader.


But the \in{section}[tst::crossref] doesn't open the test.pdf file at 
all?! The jump to the 'crossref' section doesn't seem to work! Please 
take a look at the two included test files.


I first compile test.tex followed by the compilation of crossref.tex. 
Currently I use: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.01.25 14:16 MKIV  fmt: 2012.2.7  
int: english/english.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag


% Test file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test External File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}

\section[abc]{Abc}

\dorecurse{70}
  {A test of cross referencing to exernal document!}

\section[crossref]{Def}

Another section starts right here!

\stoptext
% Crossref file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\useexternaldocument[tst][test][Een test external] % External file called: test.tex

Most \from[tst] from \in{chapter}[tst::crossref].

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing not working!

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Wed 08 Feb 2012, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

 When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test
 external] together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly
 opened in Acrobat Reader.
 
 But the \in{section}[tst::crossref] doesn't open the test.pdf file
 at all?! The jump to the 'crossref' section doesn't seem to work!
 Please take a look at the two included test files.
 
 I first compile test.tex followed by the compilation of
 crossref.tex. Currently I use: ConTeXt  ver: 2012.01.25 14:16 MKIV
 fmt: 2012.2.7  int: english/english.

I get the same behaviour as you (context MkIV 2011.10.01, Adobe Reader
9.4, Linux) -- reference to file works, reference to section doesn't.
But I don't know how to fix it.

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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing; How to?!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 02/04/2012 11:08 AM, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

On 02/02/2012 11:43 AM, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

On 02/01/2012 04:23 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 01.02.2012 um 15:44 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:


Hi,

After going through the suggested reading This Way, sep 2011 
(http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm) in relation to this topic 
it was time to do some tests!


Well, I stumbled on the very first basic problem! Using the 
\useexternalfile[logical_name][filename] resulted in an Undefined 
control sequence ... error message!?


Anybody any suggestions about the syntax of this command?! The 
description in the reference part of the ConTeXt Garden wiki site 
is not of much help to me either, sorry!
I think this is a typo in the manual and Hans meant the 
\useexternaldocument command because \useexternalfile was removed 
from MkIV and had a different purpose.


Wolfgang
...


Hi,

Well yes, the \useexternaldocument works, but not for example the 
\in-command!


When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test 
external] together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly 
opened in Acrobat Reader.


But the \in{section}[tst::def] doesn't open the test.pdf file at 
all?! The jump to the 'def' section doesn't seem to work! Please take 
a look at the two included test files.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag


Hi,

Again I want to focus on the cross-document referencing issue that is 
not working as expected (see example files on first mail in this thread)!


I don't know whether this feature is still available in MkIV, because 
up till now no reactions have been given regarding this problem!


Currently I'm planning a project and want to make use of this 
cross-document referencing feature.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag



Hi,

The cross-document referencing feature that I want to apply in a new 
project is not working with the current MkIV release, as I've tried to 
explain in this thread!


I'm wondering why this thread, no responses up till now, doesn't seem to 
trigger any attention! Is this referencing issue perhaps trivial or...?!


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing; How to?!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 02/02/2012 11:43 AM, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:

On 02/01/2012 04:23 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 01.02.2012 um 15:44 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:


Hi,

After going through the suggested reading This Way, sep 2011 
(http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm) in relation to this topic it 
was time to do some tests!


Well, I stumbled on the very first basic problem! Using the 
\useexternalfile[logical_name][filename] resulted in an Undefined 
control sequence ... error message!?


Anybody any suggestions about the syntax of this command?! The 
description in the reference part of the ConTeXt Garden wiki site is 
not of much help to me either, sorry!
I think this is a typo in the manual and Hans meant the 
\useexternaldocument command because \useexternalfile was removed 
from MkIV and had a different purpose.


Wolfgang
...


Hi,

Well yes, the \useexternaldocument works, but not for example the 
\in-command!


When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test 
external] together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly 
opened in Acrobat Reader.


But the \in{section}[tst::def] doesn't open the test.pdf file at all?! 
The jump to the 'def' section doesn't seem to work! Please take a look 
at the two included test files.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag


Hi,

Again I want to focus on the cross-document referencing issue that is 
not working as expected (see example files on first mail in this thread)!


I don't know whether this feature is still available in MkIV, because up 
till now no reactions have been given regarding this problem!


Currently I'm planning a project and want to make use of this 
cross-document referencing feature.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing; How to?!

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 02/01/2012 04:23 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 01.02.2012 um 15:44 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:

   

Hi,

After going through the suggested reading This Way, sep 2011 
(http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm) in relation to this topic it was time to do some 
tests!

Well, I stumbled on the very first basic problem! Using the 
\useexternalfile[logical_name][filename] resulted in an Undefined control 
sequence ... error message!?

Anybody any suggestions about the syntax of this command?! The description in 
the reference part of the ConTeXt Garden wiki site is not of much help to me 
either, sorry!
 

I think this is a typo in the manual and Hans meant the \useexternaldocument 
command because \useexternalfile was removed from MkIV and had a different 
purpose.

Wolfgang
...
   


Hi,

Well yes, the \useexternaldocument works, but not for example the 
\in-command!


When I for example use \useexternaldocument[tst][test][A test external] 
together with \from[tst] the test.pdf file is correctly opened in 
Acrobat Reader.


But the \in{section}[tst::def] doesn't open the test.pdf file at all?! 
The jump to the 'def' section doesn't seem to work! Please take a look 
at the two included test files.


Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
% Test file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\useexternaldocument[tst][test][Een test external] % External file called: test.tex

Most \from[tst] from \in{section}[tst::def].

\stoptext

% Test file

\setupinteraction
  [state=start,
   style=,
   color=blue,
   contrastcolor=,
   menu=on,
   title=Cross referencing Test External File,
   author=Gerard Verhaag]

\starttext

\chapter[cross]{Cross referencing}

\section[abc]{Abc}

\dorecurse{70}
  {A test of cross referencing to exernal document!}

\section[def]{Def}

Another section starts right here!

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Cross-document referencing; How to?!

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 01.02.2012 um 15:44 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:

 Hi,
 
 After going through the suggested reading This Way, sep 2011 
 (http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm) in relation to this topic it was time 
 to do some tests!
 
 Well, I stumbled on the very first basic problem! Using the 
 \useexternalfile[logical_name][filename] resulted in an Undefined control 
 sequence ... error message!?
 
 Anybody any suggestions about the syntax of this command?! The description in 
 the reference part of the ConTeXt Garden wiki site is not of much help to me 
 either, sorry!

I think this is a typo in the manual and Hans meant the \useexternaldocument 
command because \useexternalfile was removed from MkIV and had a different 
purpose.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Refering to point inside external pdf file?

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

On 01/10/2012 03:16 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

Am 10.01.2012 um 11:05 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:

   

Hi ConTeXt User's,

I'm struggling with references to external PDF files using the 
\useexternaldocument command.

Refering to the document works fine, but pointing at a specific location inside 
the file using for example \in{chapter}[logicalfilename::theverylocation] 
doesn't seem to work!

Feature is described in ConTeXt an excursion, page 64 (paper version)!
 

Read this article from Hans: http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm

Wolfgang


   

Hi Wolfgang,

Your suggested reading is very nice indeed! Thanks!

Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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[NTG-context] Refering to point inside external pdf file?

[Verhaag, G.C.H.M.]

Hi ConTeXt User's,

I'm struggling with references to external PDF files using the 
\useexternaldocument command.


Refering to the document works fine, but pointing at a specific location 
inside the file using for example 
\in{chapter}[logicalfilename::theverylocation] doesn't seem to work!


Feature is described in ConTeXt an excursion, page 64 (paper version)!

Regards,
Gerard Verhaag

P.S. Currently I use ConTeXt ver: 2011.12.23 09:52 MKIV fmt: 2011.12.27
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Re: [NTG-context] Refering to point inside external pdf file?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 10.01.2012 um 11:05 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:

 Hi ConTeXt User's,
 
 I'm struggling with references to external PDF files using the 
 \useexternaldocument command.
 
 Refering to the document works fine, but pointing at a specific location 
 inside the file using for example 
 \in{chapter}[logicalfilename::theverylocation] doesn't seem to work!
 
 Feature is described in ConTeXt an excursion, page 64 (paper version)!

Read this article from Hans: http://pragma-ade.com/show-mag-15.htm

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] \useexternaldocument

[Otared Kavian]

Hi all,

How can I open a PDF file from within a presentation?
For example, assuming that the file intermezzo.pdf is present in the same 
directory, I thought I could say this

\starttext
\useexternaldocument[intermezzo.pdf]
As one may see in the example \from[intermezzo.pdf]
\stoptext

But this does not work as I would expect.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] \useexternaldocument

[Hans Hagen]

On 4-2-2011 10:09, Otared Kavian wrote:

Hi all,

How can I open a PDF file from within a presentation?
For example, assuming that the file intermezzo.pdf is present in the same 
directory, I thought I could say this

\starttext
\useexternaldocument[intermezzo.pdf]
As one may see in the example \from[intermezzo.pdf]
\stoptext


you can use

[file(whatever)]

in \goto, \button, menus etc

Hans

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[NTG-context] \from query

[Bowen Alan C.]

Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or  
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is  
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


Alan


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Re: [NTG-context] \from query

[Hans Hagen]

Bowen Alan C. wrote:
Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or 
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is 
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


\setupinteraction[display=new]


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Re: [NTG-context] \from query

[Bowen Alan C.]

Thanks, Hans! That’s exactly what I needed.

Alan

On Jun 5, 2009, at 17;29,03 , Hans Hagen wrote:


Bowen Alan C. wrote:
Is there a way to configure \from[MyExternalDocument] or  
\useexternaldocument so that when the link to MyExternalDocument is  
selected in the PDF output file, Acrobat opens a new window?


\setupinteraction[display=new]


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt-ifying Kile

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\synchronizationbar[name][alternative=page|local][settings]
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\tab{text} text
# \tbox
\tex{text}
\textreference[reference]{text}
\textrule[top|bottom]{text}
\textvariable[name]
\thinrule
\thinrules[settings]
# \tightlayer
\title[references]{text}
# \to
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\translate[name=text]
\typ{text}
\type{text}
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# \unexpanded
# \unprotect
# \unprotected
\useblocks[names][names]
\usecommands{text}
\usedirectory[names|reset]
\useencoding[names]
\useexternaldocument[name][file][text]
\useexternalfigure[name][file][options]
\useexternalfile[name][name][file][font options]
\useexternalfiles[name][options]
\useexternalsoundtrack[name][file]
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\usereferences[files]
\usespecials[names|reset]
\usesymbols[name]
# \usetypescript
# \usetypescriptfile
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# \useXMLfilter
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# \verticalstrut
# \vfilll
# \VL
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# \vpos
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\WORD{text}
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\wordright{text}
\WORDS{text text}
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Re: [NTG-context] goto and open file

[Alan Bowen]

Jean—

Many thanks for the tip. It turns out that the PDF viewer that comes  
with TeXShop is the partly responsible for the problem. The other  
part of the problem is with the relative pathnames—which is a  
limitation if the aim is to put the PDF files produced on someone  
else’s server.

The solution was to use an alias of the target PDF file (symlink?) in  
the same Folder (directory) as the .tex source file in which the link  
is established and to use another PDF reader.

Many thanks.

Alan


On Jun 19, 2007, at 1:43 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

 Le 18 juin à 23:25:24 Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit  
 notamment:

 | Hans—

 | I caught the typo in my last message. Regrettably, though

 | \useexternaldocument[ch4][../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf][Gants  
 and
 | Hailey]
 | \goto{Gants and Hailey}[ch4::../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf]

 | still prints “Grant and Hailey” as an active link, it is not one in
 | fact.

 | Same for \from[ch4].

 | I must be missing something. But what?

 | Alan

 Things like that have happened to me and I found out that  
 *sometimes* it
 is the pdf viewer which is responsible: xpdf coud not open the file  
 but
 acroread did it. I'm not sure how I fixed it but I seem to remember  
 that
 xpdf hated relative links...

 Sorry if this is completely on a wrong track...

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Re: [NTG-context] goto and open file

[Alan Bowen]

Hans—

I currently have

\useexternaldocument[ch4][../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf][Gants and  
Hailey]

\goto{Gants and Hailey}[ch4::../01-04_Gants/cc_01-04_Gants.pdf]

But, though the phrase “Gants and Hailey” does appear to be a link,  
selecting it does not actually open the file.


Is there a problem with the use of relative pathnames?

Alan

On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Alan Bowen wrote:

Please excuse the Mac centric formulation of my question.

If Folders B and C are in Folder A, is there a way to insert a link
in a PDF file in Folder B that will go to a PDF file Folder C and
open it?


just prefix the filename by the path

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] goto and open file

[Alan Bowen]

Hans—

I caught the typo in my last message. Regrettably, though

\useexternaldocument[ch4][../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf][Gants and  
Hailey]

\goto{Gants and Hailey}[ch4::../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf]

still prints “Grant and Hailey” as an active link, it is not one in  
fact.


Same for \from[ch4].

I must be missing something. But what?

Alan


On Jun 18, 2007, at 7:10 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:


Hans—

I currently have

\useexternaldocument[ch4][../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf][Gants  
and Hailey]

\goto{Gants and Hailey}[ch4::../01-04_Gants/cc_01-04_Gants.pdf]

But, though the phrase “Gants and Hailey” does appear to be a link,  
selecting it does not actually open the file.


Is there a problem with the use of relative pathnames?

Alan

On Jun 18, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Alan Bowen wrote:

Please excuse the Mac centric formulation of my question.

If Folders B and C are in Folder A, is there a way to insert a link
in a PDF file in Folder B that will go to a PDF file Folder C and
open it?


just prefix the filename by the path

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] goto and open file

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 18 juin à 23:25:24 Alan Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

| Hans—

| I caught the typo in my last message. Regrettably, though

| \useexternaldocument[ch4][../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf][Gants and
| Hailey]
| \goto{Gants and Hailey}[ch4::../01-04_Gants/c_01-04_Gants.pdf]

| still prints “Grant and Hailey” as an active link, it is not one in
| fact.

| Same for \from[ch4].

| I must be missing something. But what?

| Alan

Things like that have happened to me and I found out that *sometimes* it
is the pdf viewer which is responsible: xpdf coud not open the file but
acroread did it. I'm not sure how I fixed it but I seem to remember that
xpdf hated relative links...

Sorry if this is completely on a wrong track...

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \button

[h h extern]

François Fasoli wrote:
I have found the following somewhere in the documentation.
\button{...}[the chapter on whatever]
\button{...}[otherdoc::some topic]
\button{...}[previouspage]
\button{...}[PreviousJump]
I have tried them : all run very well except \button{...}[otherdoc::some 
topic]
How can I replace some topic to indicate a chapter in otherdoc or a page ?
you need to register the otherdoc by using \useexternaldocument
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Re: [NTG-context] references to external documents

[Hans Hagen]

At 12:55 26/11/2003, Pawel Jackowski na Onet wrote:
Hi all!

I'm working with huge XML documents which are compiled to PDF (with ConTeXt)
and converted to HTML (with XSLT and others). These XML documents contain
references to external files (images). References are mapped to paths with
XML code; i.e. imgref  id=cow  src=./images/cow.png/. Translating such
a map to ConTeXt is rather obvious. But how to implement simmilar mechanism
for external XML documents? In example I would like to use command
\useexternaldocument[intro][introduction.xml] and than process
'introduction.xml' on the base of is ID reference ('intro').
Is it possible? Does ConTeXt suport referencing documents as well as
figures?
you can use this:

\definefilesynonym[indirect][whatever.xml]

\starttext

\processXMLfile{\truefilename{indirect}}

\stoptext

given that the whatever.xml file is there

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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing another document

[David Arnold]

This example is from the beginner's manual, page 86.

\useexternaldocument[hia][hasbook][Hasselt in August]

Most tourist attractions are described in \from[hia]. A description
of the Eui||feest is found in \from[hia::euifeest]. A description of
the \goto{Eui||feest}[hia::euifeest] is found in \from[hia]. The
eui||feest is described on \at{page}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
See for more information \in{chapter}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].

At 04:30 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
Guys,
I have been searching for how to specify another document (.pdf) to open
from the source document. The only method I have found is using \useURL etc.
which bring up the web browser as an intermediate step. Please con somebody
direct me to the correct method.

TIA
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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing another document

[Nigel King]

David,
Thank you very much, I thought I had got beyond the beginner's manual but
obviously I haven't..

 From: David Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This example is from the beginner's manual, page 86.
 
 \useexternaldocument[hia][hasbook][Hasselt in August]
 
 Most tourist attractions are described in \from[hia]. A description
 of the Eui||feest is found in \from[hia::euifeest]. A description of
 the \goto{Eui||feest}[hia::euifeest] is found in \from[hia]. The
 eui||feest is described on \at{page}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 See for more information \in{chapter}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 
 At 04:30 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
 Guys,
 I have been searching for how to specify another document (.pdf) to open
 from the source document. The only method I have found is using \useURL etc.
 which bring up the web browser as an intermediate step. Please con somebody
 direct me to the correct method.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing another document

[David Arnold]

Nigel,

Nah, I just happened to have read it recently for the umpteenth time and
knew where to look.

At 05:59 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
David,
Thank you very much, I thought I had got beyond the beginner's manual but
obviously I haven't..

 From: David Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 This example is from the beginner's manual, page 86.
 
 \useexternaldocument[hia][hasbook][Hasselt in August]
 
 Most tourist attractions are described in \from[hia]. A description
 of the Eui||feest is found in \from[hia::euifeest]. A description of
 the \goto{Eui||feest}[hia::euifeest] is found in \from[hia]. The
 eui||feest is described on \at{page}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 See for more information \in{chapter}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 
 At 04:30 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
 Guys,
 I have been searching for how to specify another document (.pdf) to open
 from the source document. The only method I have found is using \useURL
etc.
 which bring up the web browser as an intermediate step. Please con
somebody
 direct me to the correct method.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Referencing another document

[Nigel King]

Another question on the same subject. One of my referenced documents is not
pdf but actually an Excel Spreadsheet. Is there any way that can be opened
automatically in Excel?
 Nigel,
 
 Nah, I just happened to have read it recently for the umpteenth time and
 knew where to look.
 
 At 05:59 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
 David,
 Thank you very much, I thought I had got beyond the beginner's manual but
 obviously I haven't..
 
 From: David Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This example is from the beginner's manual, page 86.
 
 \useexternaldocument[hia][hasbook][Hasselt in August]
 
 Most tourist attractions are described in \from[hia]. A description
 of the Eui||feest is found in \from[hia::euifeest]. A description of
 the \goto{Eui||feest}[hia::euifeest] is found in \from[hia]. The
 eui||feest is described on \at{page}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 See for more information \in{chapter}[hia::euifeest] in \from[hia].
 
 At 04:30 PM 8/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
 Guys,
 I have been searching for how to specify another document (.pdf) to open
 from the source document. The only method I have found is using \useURL
 etc.
 which bring up the web browser as an intermediate step. Please con
 somebody
 direct me to the correct method.
 

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