Re: [OpenAFS] "Upgrading" an OpenAFS server from opensuse leap 42.3 to opensuse leap 15.1

2019-12-12 Thread Christof Hanke
Hi,


On Friday, 22 November 2019 19:53:13 CET Kenneth Aaker wrote:

> I just got my OpenAFS server working again after upgrading the system
> from OpenSuSE Leap 42.3 to Leap 15.1.  I ran into one puzzling problem
> doing that upgrade.  The system upgrade finished after whining about a
> couple things, but the OpenAFS server (version 1.8.2) didn't know about
> any of the volumes or PTS information.  I finally figured out that the
> server local files (including the databases) had moved from
> /var/lib/openafs (on version 1.6) to /var/openafs.
Sorry, this was a glitch in the spec file.
In the current version (1.8.5) the path is again /var/lib/openafs

Christof



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[OpenAFS] "Upgrading" an OpenAFS server from opensuse leap 42.3 to opensuse leap 15.1

2019-12-09 Thread Kenneth Aaker
Hi,

I just got my OpenAFS server working again after upgrading the system
from OpenSuSE Leap 42.3 to Leap 15.1.  I ran into one puzzling problem
doing that upgrade.  The system upgrade finished after whining about a
couple things, but the OpenAFS server (version 1.8.2) didn't know about
any of the volumes or PTS information.  I finally figured out that the
server local files (including the databases) had moved from
/var/lib/openafs (on version 1.6) to /var/openafs.

Just something to watch out for

Ken Aaker

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading to newer OpenAFS procedure docs

2018-12-03 Thread Joyce, Stephen
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:

> The situation tends to be fairly customized for each site (and is not a
> terribly common operation), so I don't know of any formal documentation.
> The thread starting at
> https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2017-January/042007.html
> is probably the most recent discussion

If it helps at all, that procedure, with Jeff Altman's reminder (quoted 
below), worked exactly as needed *for me* for that situation. As Ben 
mentioned, unique site conditions may mean it won't work for you without 
changes.

On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Jeffrey Altman wrote:

>> You will also need to update the configuration and restart the
>> fileservers.  The fileservers are clients of the PT and VL servers but
>> use the server CellServDB file for their server info.

> -Ben

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading to newer OpenAFS procedure docs

2018-11-30 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:38:16PM -0500, Susan Litzinger wrote:
> We are in the process of updating from an older version of OpenAFS,
> 1.4.14,  to a more recent version, 1.6.16.
> 
> The new 1.6.16 servers have been added to our current cell and we are
> moving the volumes from the older servers to the new ones.  We know that we
> have to move the various servers, including the VL Server,  and root.cell
> volume from the old servers to the new ones before being able to shut off
> the old servers. I'm trying to find documentation that describes how to do
> that.

The main obstacle is usually just the running database servers, including
both VL server and PT server (and also potentially a few others if in use
at your site, for the buserver, updateserver, etc.)  AFAIK root.cell does
not need to be hosted on a fileserver colocated with a dbserver (but is
just conventionally done so during normal operation for maximum
resiliency).

A key question is whether the dbservers will be getting new IP addresses as
part of this upgrade -- that requires a somewhat more complicated
procedure, whereas if the same IP addresses are used it's pretty
straightforward to just cycle machines in/out of active service.
Other factors that come into play is whether all clients are known and/or
under the control of central administrators, so that whether they are using
AFSDB or SRV records or a static CellServDB to locate dbservers can be
known.

> Has anyone done this recently?  Is there any documentation that describes
> the proper sequence?

The situation tends to be fairly customized for each site (and is not a
terribly common operation), so I don't know of any formal documentation.
The thread starting at
https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2017-January/042007.html
is probably the most recent discussion (n.b. the TLS certificate for that
site recently expired so you'll have to click through a cert warning at the
moment; other mail-archive sites may have the content as well, for the
thread subject "procedure for changing database server IP address").

-Ben
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[OpenAFS] Upgrading to newer OpenAFS procedure docs

2018-11-27 Thread Susan Litzinger
We are in the process of updating from an older version of OpenAFS,
1.4.14,  to a more recent version, 1.6.16.

The new 1.6.16 servers have been added to our current cell and we are
moving the volumes from the older servers to the new ones.  We know that we
have to move the various servers, including the VL Server,  and root.cell
volume from the old servers to the new ones before being able to shut off
the old servers. I'm trying to find documentation that describes how to do
that.

Has anyone done this recently?  Is there any documentation that describes
the proper sequence?

TIA!


Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading

2013-04-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 04 April 2013, 10:04:16 schrieb Ted Creedon:

 then I install the new linux, recompile openaffs, install the init scrips
 and everything works fiine on 3 servers.

There's no need to do that on Debian, of course.

Bye...

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading

2013-04-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 04 April 2013, 05:45:27 schrieb J:

 Wondering if anyone can offer advice as to how best upgrade OpenAFS on
 Debian 5.0.2.  The OpenAFS kernel module package is listed as
 openafs-modules-2.6.26-2-486.
 
 Should I upgrade Linux first, then OpenAFS?  Or vice versa?  Another option
 would be to build a new server, but I'm wondering which would be the less
 convoluted path.
 
 Any tutorials or information you can point me to is appreciated.

Just follow 
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html to 
upgrade from lenny to squeeze.

The same procedure should then also work to further update from squeeze to 
wheezy.

Note that wheezy is the first version to come with OpenAFS 1.6.x. If you want 
that in squeeze (yes, you do, because of dafs), you can install it from Debian 
backports.

HTH...

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading

2013-04-04 Thread Bill MacAllister



--On Thursday, April 04, 2013 05:45:27 AM -0700 J skyliner...@yahoo.com wrote:


Wondering if anyone can offer advice as to how best upgrade OpenAFS
on Debian 5.0.2.  The OpenAFS kernel module package is listed as
openafs-modules-2.6.26-2-486.

Should I upgrade Linux first, then OpenAFS?  Or vice versa?  Another
option would be to build a new server, but I'm wondering which would
be the less convoluted path.

Any tutorials or information you can point me to is appreciated.

John


If you build a second server you will not need any down time.  You get
the second server working and vos move everything there.  Then
shutdown or rebuild the first server.  It makes sense to just upgrade
the first server and keep it.  Then next time you want to upgrade it
is a lot less work.  If you do it this way you will want to use Russ
Allbery's mvto:

 http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/afs-admin-tools/mvto.html

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading

2013-04-04 Thread Ted Creedon
I have /vicepa and /usr/afs and /usr/vice all mounted on their own
partitions

then I install the new linux, recompile openaffs, install the init scrips
and everything works fiine on 3 servers.

I've done this on every suse release since 9.x

Tedc

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Bill MacAllister w...@stanford.edu wrote:



 --On Thursday, April 04, 2013 05:45:27 AM -0700 J skyliner...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Wondering if anyone can offer advice as to how best upgrade OpenAFS
 on Debian 5.0.2.  The OpenAFS kernel module package is listed as
 openafs-modules-2.6.26-2-486.

 Should I upgrade Linux first, then OpenAFS?  Or vice versa?  Another
 option would be to build a new server, but I'm wondering which would
 be the less convoluted path.

 Any tutorials or information you can point me to is appreciated.

 John


 If you build a second server you will not need any down time.  You get
 the second server working and vos move everything there.  Then
 shutdown or rebuild the first server.  It makes sense to just upgrade
 the first server and keep it.  Then next time you want to upgrade it
 is a lot less work.  If you do it this way you will want to use Russ
 Allbery's mvto:

  
 http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/**software/afs-admin-tools/mvto.**htmlhttp://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/afs-admin-tools/mvto.html

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading

2013-04-04 Thread Russ Allbery
J skyliner...@yahoo.com writes:

 Wondering if anyone can offer advice as to how best upgrade OpenAFS on
 Debian 5.0.2.  The OpenAFS kernel module package is listed as
 openafs-modules-2.6.26-2-486.

 Should I upgrade Linux first, then OpenAFS?  Or vice versa?  Another
 option would be to build a new server, but I'm wondering which would be
 the less convoluted path.

Bill replied for the case where you're talking about an AFS file server,
but I think you may be talking about an AFS client, so I'll answer that
part.

When you dist-upgrade the system, the OpenAFS client will continue running
with the existing kernel module.  All you have to do is arrange to have
the kernel module for the new kernel installed before you reboot the
system.  By far the easiest (and the now-recommended) way to do this is to
install openafs-modules-dkms and the linux-headers package for the new
kernel (linux-headers-486 if you're just using the tracking kernel
package).  Just do that before the first upgrade and DKMS will build new
kernel modules for you.

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading 1.2.11 fileserver to 1.4?

2006-06-01 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman



On Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:23:31 AM +0200 Chris Huebsch 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Been there, done that, got no t-shirt.


plug kind=shameless
T-shirts and other cool OpenAFS items are available from the OpenAFS store, 
at http://www.cafepress.com/openafs.  Proceeds go to support the OpenAFS 
project.

/plug

-- Jeff
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[OpenAFS] Upgrading/Migrating to new OpenAFS and host OS versions

2005-11-07 Thread Steve Gaarder
I have a server running OpenAFS 1.2.13 on Red Hat Enterprise 3, using 
Kerberos 5 for athentication (the AFS server is not one of the KDCs).  I 
want to upgrade to OpenAFS 1.4.0 and RH Enterprise 4.  It seems to me that 
the sanest approach may well be to do a fresh install of the OS (on 
another partition), install 1.4.0 on it, and then copy all the necessary 
site-specific stuff over to the new OS.  Questions:


- is this indeed the best way to go?

- what files/directories do I need to copy to the new installation?

- any gotchas I should know about?

thanks,

Steve Gaarder
System Administrator, Dept of Mathematics
Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, USA
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[OpenAFS] upgrading afs on mac

2005-05-02 Thread David Bear
In my last query I asked how to remove openafs from a mac.

Now, I am interested in perhaps 'upgrading'. I don't know what the
latest package is for openafs on the mac, but is the package install
intelligent enough to find prior versions and upgrade them?


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Re: [OpenAFS] upgrading afs on mac

2005-05-02 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Mon, 2 May 2005, David Bear wrote:
In my last query I asked how to remove openafs from a mac.
Now, I am interested in perhaps 'upgrading'. I don't know what the
latest package is for openafs on the mac, but is the package install
intelligent enough to find prior versions and upgrade them?
Yes.
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[OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3

2005-02-28 Thread James Burns
Hello all,

I'm currently running a one server for fun cell on RedHat 9 with the
1.2.13 rpms. Is there any documentation about the upgrade procedure to
the latest 1.3.7x? What should I backup before trying this? Thanks for
any help.

-James
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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3

2005-02-28 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, James Burns wrote:
Hello all,
I'm currently running a one server for fun cell on RedHat 9 with the
1.2.13 rpms. Is there any documentation about the upgrade procedure to
the latest 1.3.7x? What should I backup before trying this? Thanks for
any help.
Replace the binaries, bos restart, move along. Same as previous upgrades.
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[OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2.11 to 1.3.73 - problems?

2004-10-30 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
I'm about to upgrade my production machine, and unfortunately
I can't test the upgrade before I do...

I just don't have the resources (time and money for new test
machines), so I just thought I send out this question...

SOMEONE is bound to have done this :)
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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2.11 to 1.3.73 - problems?

2004-10-30 Thread Rodney M Dyer
At 12:44 PM 10/29/04, you wrote:
I'm about to upgrade my production machine, and unfortunately I can't test 
the upgrade before I do...
Ok, I'm 
game.  Clients?  Servers?  Windows?  Unix?  Make?  Model?  Versions? 
Upgrade what?  I assume you mean client because you said production 
machine not machine(s).  I don't know anyone who runs a cell on one 
server machine.

As far as Windows is concerned I think 1.3.7300 is one of the most stable 
so far.  A few glitches have been found since then, but it's got so many 
fixes since 1.2.11 that I can't even begin to enumerate them.

We are still running our Solaris servers on 1.2.11 without issues even 
though an important bug has recently been identified.  We hope to upgrade soon.

Rodney

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2.11 to 1.3.73 - problems?

2004-10-30 Thread Hendrik Hoeth
Thus spake Rodney M Dyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I don't know anyone who runs a cell on one server machine.

Well, I do. At home on my private PC. Usefull for connecting the laptop
or doing experiments I don't want to do in the production environment at
university ...   ;-)

Hendrik

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading from 1.2.11 to 1.3.73 - problems?

2004-10-30 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004, Hendrik Hoeth wrote:
Thus spake Rodney M Dyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I don't know anyone who runs a cell on one server machine.
Well, I do. At home on my private PC. Usefull for connecting the laptop
or doing experiments I don't want to do in the production environment at
university ...   ;-)
dementia.org was a single server for years; now there's one fileserver 
with db server and one db server.

at home i have a 800gb cell running on one machine, chock full of various 
large files (usgs aerial photos are a large part of it)

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[OpenAFS] Upgrading Transarc servers

2003-01-30 Thread Kevin Coffman
I think this is the case, but wanted to verify.

When upgrading from Transarc fileserver binaries to OpenAFS, there are 
no disk format changes?  Just swap out the binaries and go.  Correct?

Also, there is no need to change from the Transarc fsck program.  
Correct?

Thanks!
Kevin

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading Transarc servers

2003-01-30 Thread Hartmut Reuter

Depends on the architectures your fileservers are running on. For Linux 
and NT Transarc had implemented the NAMEI-interface where you don't need 
a special fsck. Here everything should be ok.

On the other architectures I suggest to use also the NAMEI-interface for 
 some reasons:

1) You get rid of the special fsck (may be a problem with software RAIDs 
etc)

2) salvage of single volumes is much faster because all files of a 
volume group are under the same directory

3) you can dump or tar and restore partitions and you can see the files.

If you switch between the traditional mechanism and NAMEI you have to 
move the volumes by vos move because the NAMEI-fileserver does not 
understand the traditional partition and vice versa.

If you keep using the traditional mechanism you schould be able to just 
start the new binaries with the old partitions.

-Hartmut


Kevin Coffman wrote:
I think this is the case, but wanted to verify.

When upgrading from Transarc fileserver binaries to OpenAFS, there are 
no disk format changes?  Just swap out the binaries and go.  Correct?

Also, there is no need to change from the Transarc fsck program.  
Correct?

Thanks!
Kevin

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Re: [OpenAFS] Upgrading Transarc servers

2003-01-30 Thread Kevin Coffman
Sorry, I thought I had put more info in the original message.  It is 
Solaris on Sparc and I'm not planning to move to the namei server at 
this time on that machine.  (OK, never on that machine.  It needs to be 
replaced before that happens.)

Thanks again,
Kevin


 Depends on the architectures your fileservers are running on. For Linux 
 and NT Transarc had implemented the NAMEI-interface where you don't need 
 a special fsck. Here everything should be ok.
 
 On the other architectures I suggest to use also the NAMEI-interface for 
   some reasons:
 
 1) You get rid of the special fsck (may be a problem with software RAIDs 
 etc)
 
 2) salvage of single volumes is much faster because all files of a 
 volume group are under the same directory
 
 3) you can dump or tar and restore partitions and you can see the files.
 
 If you switch between the traditional mechanism and NAMEI you have to 
 move the volumes by vos move because the NAMEI-fileserver does not 
 understand the traditional partition and vice versa.
 
 If you keep using the traditional mechanism you schould be able to just 
 start the new binaries with the old partitions.
 
 -Hartmut
 
 
 Kevin Coffman wrote:
  I think this is the case, but wanted to verify.
  
  When upgrading from Transarc fileserver binaries to OpenAFS, there are 
  no disk format changes?  Just swap out the binaries and go.  Correct?
  
  Also, there is no need to change from the Transarc fsck program.  
  Correct?
  
  Thanks!
  Kevin
  
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