[OGD] Andy stop it!!!!
I had promised myself never to answer Andy directly again on the OGD, I am breaking with that tradition today. Someone has to speak up, let it be me. You have for the longest time attacked all the good people on this forum, not because they deserved any, but simply because you have to satisfy your mean spirited attitude. You act like the orchid world barely deserves your divine attention. Let me help you out of that dream Easton. The OGD does not need you, the orchid world does not need you, the AOS has already shown they do not need you. This week you attacked several good people on this forum. What you did to Marni and Iris this week, what you did to many others in the past year is unforgivable; it serves no useful purpose. None of your venom serves any useful purpose, other than your boastfully arrogant and dismissive ego. You forever belittle other OGDers and make them feel bad. You, Easton, are despicable. I for one am fed up with your nonsense and your disruptive behavior on this forum. If Kenneth has the time and would read all your post of the past year, he should have no trouble finding more than sufficient cause to terminate your subscription for the good of the majority, and the good name of this digest. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] all andy all the time
There are lots of Canadians who are members of the AOS. There is even a judging center in Toronto. If my memory serves me, that is in that foreign country. If you are a member of the AOS, you get to comment on the AOS and its other members. It appears that Andy is the only person on Earth who has the best interest of the AOS at heart, and is the only person who even KNOWS what is best for the AOS. I find that surprising. There are lots of positive suggestions on both the Forum, and here on OGD, if only someone would act on them, or even reply to them. li'l frog ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Re: Iris Cohen's Inaccuracies
Isn't this the date palm calling the ginkgo dioecious? Dear Iris - I don't care what that crotchety old grouch says about you - you are delightful, funny and generous with your knowledge and experience. Perhaps he is a woofter as well. Warmest regards - Nancy ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Andy Easton
I would sincerely like Andy Easton to be banned from this list. He does nothing for us but try to create hatred. His naove, childish attacks on people is neither amusing or intelligent. WHEN was the last time he offered any advice on orchids, which is what this forum is for? All he seems to enjoy is attacking people, looking for any opportunity to do so. I FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANDY EASTON BANNED FROM THIS FORUM Cody Cruise Valley Pest Consulting ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] furthermore
I was just at the OGD website, copied and pasted this directly from it: 'A few simple rules/guidelines apply: - no spam nor flames are allowed on this list. - no attachments are allowed either Cody Cruise Valley Pest Consulting ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] talking about animals and orchids
Bill, I have given up my AOS membership 1.5 years ago, and I do not involve myself in AOS politics. However, in any democratic organization, nominations from the floor are normal. Not in the AOS? ok! I did not hurt the AOS financially by my resignation. Andy Easton sent me an eloquent, private, unsolicited e-mail, soon after I told Lee Cooke why I resigned from the AOS. Andy promised me, in the nice way only he is capable of, that the AOS would be better off without me and that it would not suffer financially just because I resigned. He, Andy Easton, would personally purchase an AOS membership and give it to an orchid grower in Cuba. I have never asked him if he did. Digging old cows out of the swamp, like Selby etc. serves no purpose in connection with either Andy or the AOS. As far as your contention that a fabulous job was done financially, that is debatable and I have no interest in it. Did you read Doug Duggins post, this month, re the AOS and their 2001 expenses exceeding revenues by more than $ 900,000.- ??? Not that I care. I think you are correct. ORCHIDS seems a vendor oriented magazine. ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Colour printing costs
D.A Kochman commented: Color printing is expensive, and due to this (snip) the AOS have increased the amount of membership the organization needs to continue operations. Also to offset the cost of color printing, more and more space inside of the magazine has become devoted to advertisements. This statement, although frequently offered as an excuse (not just by the AOS) is misleading. Colour printing is expensive, but the price of colour printing has fallen by about 25-30% over the last 5 years. This has more than offset the 10% increase in the price of paper over the same time. Each year I am responsible for the production of several (non-orchid) magazines. 5 years ago we could not afford full colour; about 15-20% of the mag was in black-and white. Two years ago we went full-colour for the first time and paid the printers about 5% less than the previous year. This year we negotiated a further 8% reduction in printing costs, again for a full-colour production. And this was for a low print-run ... 1500 copies. If you were printing tens of thousands, you'd be able to negotiate a much bigger reduction in price. If you were to supply the printers with fully-digital machine-ready originals, you could reduce your print costs by 50% or more. The reasons ? (a) Introduction of digital technology has resulted in major savings, both in manpower and materials. (b) Large numbers of new print companies starting up, with not enough work to go round. They're hungry. (c) Globalisation. If your local company charges too much, get the job done elsewhere, eg Malaysia or China. Yes, I know individual situations vary from one place to another, and from one publication to another, but there is no escaping the fact that the worldwide trend over the last half-decade has been a steady, significant reduction in print costs. If your society has not taken advantage of this, then you should be directing some pertinant questions at whoever is in charge of publications. Peter O'Byrne Singapore ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Re: Orchids Digest, Vol 6, Issue 343
Hi, I just have to say you folks all sound like a bunch of little kids. This constant bickering is disgusting. Why don't you take it of this forum and send each other private emails. Oops I forgot little kids need and audience. Mike ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Venom on this board
Well, I have allowed mailings to continue coming from this list, but haven't really looked at them in a long time. I happened to look today and saw the war going on with Andy Easton. It is appalling. I have been growing orchids since age 12 and am now 50. I consider myself to be a major league hobbiest with about 4000 Cattleya alliance plants in a 1680 square foot greenhouse. In spite of this, I hate to tell you folks but they are just a bunch of flowers. If people can't get along when discussing flowers, there is no hope for World peace. We ought to just go ahead and nuke em and get it over with. It's kind of like marriage. You have to be a decent person to start with and then you have to make up your mind to get along. The point is to make other people feel secure, knowledgeable and wanted, not to deride them in order to make yourself feel superior and in control... Unless you get some perverse pleasure from this. So I will respect the people that apologize and commit to getting along. I shall continue to observe. Alan Bachrach Ordway Orchids (just a name I invented to subscribe to to a gardening magazine for free) Nashville, TN ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Palm Beach Post article abouit Ghost Orchids
There is an article in the Palm Beach Post in West Palm Beach, Fl for Saturday, August 19, 2004 about the native leafless Ghost orchid. To read this article just do a Google search for Palm Beach Post and then scroll down and click on Accent on the left side. Immediately, a large picture of a blossom shows up. I haven't even read this yet but wanted to get the message out at once. Seems to be a lot of information with several pictures. Andy Lanier ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Re: Spiranthes sinensis, and use of woofter
In a message dated 8/21/04 1:36:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps he is a woofter as well. A quick web search confirms that woofter is a derogatory term for a male homosexual. There are enough gay men on this board, and in various Orchid organizations that people really should be a little more careful in their hurling of epithets. I too agree that Iris is not deserving of such bile from Mr. Easton. Her posts are full of information, humor and charm. Using the term woofter insults me, and many others; much as saying like a Jew to describe parsimony would insult many (like me, as a Jew also). People need both to respect others' differences, and think before they speak. On an Orchidaceous note, I recently was given Spiranthes sinensis, a plant I had long desired to have. Will this plant thrive in conditions suitable for Spiranthes odorata? Specifically, will it handle wet winters? Thanks, Dennis Westler ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Re: Accurate Andy
I'm beginning to feel like Guido. Who the hell is Tom Watson? You know perfectly well who Mr. Watson is, despite the typo. And the stories about when you were in the AOS trainee judging program are the stuff of legend. Alas! My peccadilloes from 20 years ago have come back to haunt me. You don't know the half of it, Wonder Boy. I stole a candy bar when I was six and have been going downhill ever since. I even kicked the dog once. Oshamnu! Mr. Easton, you can go take a flying Cheney at a rolling doughnut. Iris ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Aos
Sorry if I gave the wrong impression about Canada..My dad was born there and grandfather fought for them in WW1...Just that member or not...Canada telling us how to run the AOS is not acceptable...(if they do not like it) form their own group...) but (of course) all this is directed to a small group..maybe one person...who hates us here...As for Andy...give him a break..except in the case of Iris...damned if I know how he got off on that..And for all those who do not like our standing up for the AOS AS IT STANDS...tough.and I could say worse and am tempted...by the way that form that was sent to fill out is worthless. it wont count so do not bother...How do I know this? Cuz I checked on what could be done for us poor souls (over 460) here in Hawaii that get their bulletin 6 weeks lateIt has to be the official form...Sorry to those of you who would love to mess up the situation for your own meansKind of like Nader is it not??? Also tough buns to those who think that the AOS is not Orchid business...It is THE business here..It is our official compendium of what has happened and what we might expect...plus, of course..the Ads that make the thing go...If you do not like what you read...SCROLL DOWN...I sure do...Bill and a razzbery for he who cares not for what I or others like me write...This is America...remember that...I am just as avid for those who disagree..I just scroll if not in acceptance but would never abrogate the right. Bill (of Bergstrom Orchids...for those who do not know me for all of these 30 years in business) ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
[OGD] Woofter
Rhyming slang? Phil ### Dr Phil Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Department of Mathematics, University of Queensland, Brisbane,AUSTRALIA 4072. Tel +61 7 3365 3253 Fax +61 7 3365 1477 ___ the OrchidGuide Digest (OGD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.orchidguide.com/mailman/listinfo/orchids
