Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
It would be interesting to hear that comparison. I truly believe it. bb - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Well Brett and list: To show you how it's gotten to be, I have a friend (great steel guitarist)..he recorded some songs..I guess it was fifteen years ago..maybe more..a few years ago, he put those tunes on a CD (along with some other stuff he'd done)..well I have a cassette tape of this one song (the click track is still on it)..but the tone of that steel just sounds so nice! Well when they put it on CD, although it's the same guy; same tune and all..it doesn't have that good, smooth tone as it has on that old cassette I have of him doing it! I remember him telling me that (and I've found this out for myself)..in the digital world, if you turn the volume down, it goes down to a point; then just cuts off! It's this way on my JVC stereo receiver; when it gets to a certain point, instead of the sound continuing to taper off, it just "cuts off completely!" Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
Well Brett and list: To show you how it's gotten to be, I have a friend (great steel guitarist)..he recorded some songs..I guess it was fifteen years ago..maybe more..a few years ago, he put those tunes on a CD (along with some other stuff he'd done)..well I have a cassette tape of this one song (the click track is still on it)..but the tone of that steel just sounds so nice! Well when they put it on CD, although it's the same guy; same tune and all..it doesn't have that good, smooth tone as it has on that old cassette I have of him doing it! I remember him telling me that (and I've found this out for myself)..in the digital world, if you turn the volume down, it goes down to a point; then just cuts off! It's this way on my JVC stereo receiver; when it gets to a certain point, instead of the sound continuing to taper off, it just "cuts off completely!" Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat) To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
absolutely. Everything is now digitized, quantized, and crappy! bb - Original Message - From: "Sunshine" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo also tom, and others, the sound that was produced back in the 60s,70s,80s has that warm, deep sound that has depth, spectural, clariety, and a sound that is more human then digital sounding recordings. of todays cd quality music. The analog sound that came out of the past years in the 60s,70s, has a lot of clariety that todays equipment doesn't have in my own thoughts. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
Amen and Amen! And you'd think as the equipment supposedly has gotten better, the sound would be better; not necessarily so! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
High George, How are you going about doing that? Are you using anything that has tubes in it? I'm asking because that is the only way you will be able to do that. You can do it in analog first, then go to digital. This is how I mix everything down in my own recording studio. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hey sunshine! I can agree with you on that, When I'm producing music, I try to make it warm and clear to the listener. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Sunshine" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo also tom, and others, the sound that was produced back in the 60s,70s,80s has that warm, deep sound that has depth, spectural, clariety, and a sound that is more human then digital sounding recordings. of todays cd quality music. The analog sound that came out of the past years in the 60s,70s, has a lot of clariety that todays equipment doesn't have in my own thoughts. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
High Sunshine, I am incline to agree with you. In the 60's and 70's, allot of the recordings were made on recording equipment that had vacuum tubes in it. This is where that warm deep sound came from. There are still peaces of equipment that could be bought today that still uses vacuum tubes to enhance the recording of music. But it all falls apart when the signal goes in to either a computer and or a CD recorder. Because those machines, converts the signal from analog to digital. The only way to counter react that is, to put the tubes on the input and the output of the computer's sound card and or the CD recorder. As far as CD recorders for both studio and hi phi use, no manufacturer has thought about doing that yet. Because if they did, the music would sound a whole lot better then it would without the tubes not being in the signal path. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Sunshine" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo also tom, and others, the sound that was produced back in the 60s,70s,80s has that warm, deep sound that has depth, spectural, clariety, and a sound that is more human then digital sounding recordings. of todays cd quality music. The analog sound that came out of the past years in the 60s,70s, has a lot of clariety that todays equipment doesn't have in my own thoughts. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
Hi, just want to let ya all know that i decided to buy the smart little mediaplayer playlist creater thing Robert doc Wright wrote about. I mean 7 € for such a nice program is absolutely amacingly cheep! it's called Mardi Playlist creation. Best regards Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
hi, ah you actually can with the seak function. Brian - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:55 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? You also can't rewind in Windows Media Player, which is annoying if you miss a phrase. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:03 PM Hi! I think you can bookmark in windows media player or if not, you can do it in FS Reader. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "dan thompson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? That is correct about the speed increase. But can you bookmark? - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
hi,ah you cant speed increase in small incryments. only the ctrl shift f thing as far as I know? Brian - Original Message - From: "dan thompson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? That is correct about the speed increase. But can you bookmark? - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
Hi! oh yeah, reel to reel tapes, wow! I simply love those things. I'm still looking for some good reel to reel tape recorders, cause I have some which I'd like to go through and digitalize, cause on some of them, I have recordings of a passed away friend of mine and I when we were doing music together. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:25 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
Hey sunshine! I can agree with you on that, When I'm producing music, I try to make it warm and clear to the listener. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Sunshine" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:30 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo also tom, and others, the sound that was produced back in the 60s,70s,80s has that warm, deep sound that has depth, spectural, clariety, and a sound that is more human then digital sounding recordings. of todays cd quality music. The analog sound that came out of the past years in the 60s,70s, has a lot of clariety that todays equipment doesn't have in my own thoughts. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
also tom, and others, the sound that was produced back in the 60s,70s,80s has that warm, deep sound that has depth, spectural, clariety, and a sound that is more human then digital sounding recordings. of todays cd quality music. The analog sound that came out of the past years in the 60s,70s, has a lot of clariety that todays equipment doesn't have in my own thoughts. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo > In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound > they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow > for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, > wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it > changed! > Tom Kaufman > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
High Tom, I think the change took place in the mid 80's when CD's replaced 8 track tapes. Also at the same time, you couldn't buy music on open reels anymore either. To me, the open real tapes sounded a whole lot better then 8 track and cassette tapes put together. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Exact Audio Copy
Excuse me, Dane, as I misunderstood that you were putting up a tutorial, not a copy of the program, itself! Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you! I will go after the tutorial material, listed in a later post, to this list, from another person! My mistake, -Mac- - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:49 AM Subject: Exact Audio Copy Hi everyone! Okay, there seems to be a little confusion here, I put Exact Audio Copy up on sendspace a little over a week ago now so the link will no longer work. Secondly I didn't put up any tutorial on the software, I know there are tutorials about but I've never need one so as a consequence of that I've never gone looking for one nor do I own one . People have been contacting me privately about an "Exact Audio Copy Tutorial" so I don't know where that all came from however, if anyone wants the software then certainly! I can upload it again. Cheers ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
hi john, ah don't mind. :-) It's not a problem. Brian - Original Message - From: "Johnny Angel!" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:11 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Brian, Sory I misstyped your name the first time. John At 11:05 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote: Briaqn, Check this out: From: "Wendy Sharpe" To: "'Eyes Window'" Subject: MaPlEr I just realised my message to David was sent just to him, and I wanted to send the URL to everyone, so here is my message below. This sounds like a really good program. I am definitely going to buy it. The link, for anyone interested, is: http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php You can download an MP3 presentation, which I have just listened to, and I am really impressed. Wendy At 08:26 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote: hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Exact Audio Copy
Hi, While I'm not aware of a tutorial specifically dealing with eac from a screen reader perspective, the following sites provide some very comprehensive information on properly configuring, and getting the most out of the program. There is also an exact audio copy e-mail list, where you can normally get help with most questions. The subscription address is eac-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Best regards, Tim. http://xs.vc/eac/ http://filesharefreak.com/tutorials/properly-ripping-to-flac-with-eac-099/ http://hiphopiscoolagain.com/jiggafellz-step-by-step-guide-to-secure-cd-ripping-with-exact-audio-copy/ - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:49 PM Subject: Exact Audio Copy Hi everyone! Okay, there seems to be a little confusion here, I put Exact Audio Copy up on sendspace a little over a week ago now so the link will no longer work. Secondly I didn't put up any tutorial on the software, I know there are tutorials about but I've never need one so as a consequence of that I've never gone looking for one nor do I own one . People have been contacting me privately about an "Exact Audio Copy Tutorial" so I don't know where that all came from however, if anyone wants the software then certainly! I can upload it again. Cheers ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
You also can't rewind in Windows Media Player, which is annoying if you miss a phrase. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:03 PM Hi! I think you can bookmark in windows media player or if not, you can do it in FS Reader. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "dan thompson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? That is correct about the speed increase. But can you bookmark? - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Exact Audio Copy
Hi everyone! Okay, there seems to be a little confusion here, I put Exact Audio Copy up on sendspace a little over a week ago now so the link will no longer work. Secondly I didn't put up any tutorial on the software, I know there are tutorials about but I've never need one so as a consequence of that I've never gone looking for one nor do I own one . People have been contacting me privately about an "Exact Audio Copy Tutorial" so I don't know where that all came from however, if anyone wants the software then certainly! I can upload it again. Cheers ** Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
Hi! I think you can bookmark in windows media player or if not, you can do it in FS Reader. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "dan thompson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? That is correct about the speed increase. But can you bookmark? - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: yamaha s90xs
thanks for the tip. les. Cd/Dvd Duplication & Custom Printing Customer Service Les Gordon Phone: (267)329-8150 email: sa...@cdrdvdr.com web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com - Original Message - From: "Mac Norins" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: yamaha s90xs That's a Midi Mag question, isn't it, Les? When I googled your title, I got that it is a Music keyboard! Regards, -Mac- - Original Message - From: "Les Gordon" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:50 AM Subject: yamaha s90xs hello, does anyone on the list either have one or used the new yamaha s90xs? this is supposed to be super user friendly. just looking for tips about it. thanks les. Cd/Dvd Duplication & Custom Printing Customer Service Les Gordon Phone: (267)329-8150 email: sa...@cdrdvdr.com web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: yamaha s90xs
That's a Midi Mag question, isn't it, Les? When I googled your title, I got that it is a Music keyboard! Regards, -Mac- - Original Message - From: "Les Gordon" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:50 AM Subject: yamaha s90xs hello, does anyone on the list either have one or used the new yamaha s90xs? this is supposed to be super user friendly. just looking for tips about it. thanks les. Cd/Dvd Duplication & Custom Printing Customer Service Les Gordon Phone: (267)329-8150 email: sa...@cdrdvdr.com web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14020 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
In my opinion, I don't think they'll ever be able to re-create that sound they had back then as the world of "digital equipment" just doesn't allow for it! But even a lot of the music of the seventies still had that good, wide, stereo; I don't know when it changed..and don't really know why it changed! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
That is correct about the speed increase. But can you bookmark? - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
So VBR with highest quality setting it is then. Thank you for this full and very helpful explanation. Cheers Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 30 December 2009 13:40 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate Yep, there would be a difference but the higher the ABR then the smaller the difference between the resulting file and that encoded using high quality VBR. For example, if you set your ABR to 300kbps then ABR would steal a little from less complex parts of the music and use those to supplement parts of the music that are more complex and need more than 300kbps. The result is that ABR will try to maintain a jagged line around the 300kbps mark so imagine it just dropping slightly above and below the line through the music track. With VBR with a maximum of 320kbps then you are guaranteed that if a long part of the track needs 320kbps then it will get that. You don't have that guarantee with ABR because it may not have enough bits in hand from the less complex parts of the track to maintain 320kbps for the same amount of time and may instead cap it at 310kbps. ABR is a poor man's VBR where it is important that you can predict the file size. Much better than constant bit rates of less than 320kbps though. For example, a file at ABR of 256kbps will sound better than a file encoded with a constant bit rate of 256kbps. The reason being that the ABR file will be fluctuating just above and below the 256kbps mark as required whereas the constant bit rate will have been crudely chopped as soon as it needed to go above 256kbps. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Amie Slavin" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate > So is there any difference between ABR set to a higher bit rate and VBR > with > the quality set to the highest? > Amie > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd > Sent: 27 December 2009 14:00 > To: Kevin Lloyd; PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate > > and here's a reference to the choices around minimum bit rates when using > VBR: > CDex Manual > File Edit Bookmark Options Help > Contents Index Back Print Up << >> > Bitrate Options: > There are three types of bitrate options that you can specify for each the > encoder (although some encoders may not allow any options). > 1) Constant Bitrate (CBR) > This is the default encoding mode, and also the most basic. In this mode, > the bitrate will be the same throughout the whole file. So, a second of > audio > from one > part of the file takes just as much disk space as a second from any other > part of that file -- regardless of whether either part is silence, > acoustically > simple, or > quite complex. This means that you are likely to hear distortion more in > the complex parts than in the simple parts. The advantage of CBR formats > is > > that > even > older players understand them, and that you can reliably predict the file > size from the duration of the sound (or vice versa). > 2) Average Bitrate (ABR) > In this mode, you tell the encoder to aim for an average bitrate that you > specify, skimping on the simpler parts of the music, and using higher > bitrates > for the parts > of your music that are more complex. The result will be of higher quality > than you'd get in a CBR encoded file of the same size. This mode is highly > recommended > > over CBR. This encoding mode is similar to VBR. > 3) Variable bitrate (VBR) > In this mode, you say what level of quality you want in the output file, > and > > the encoder compresses each second as best it can to get just that level > of > quality -- > using less information to represent simpler parts of the song, and more > information to represent the more complex parts. However, this mode relies > heavily > on the > encoder's model of how you perceive quality, and could lead to a few "bad > choices" in the encoding process. If possible, you may want to specify a > minimum > > bitrate (e.g., 64 Kbps) to avoid those potential errors. > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.118/2584 - Release Date: > 12/23/09 > 19:02:00 > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.431 / Virus Database: 270.14.121/2589 - Release Date: 12/30/09 07:27:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank ema
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
t;> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM >> Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents >> >> >>> Hello guys, >>> I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. >>> What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either >>> one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the >>> Blind books >> >>> and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D >>> Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 >>> machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with >>> the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the >>> speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both >>> machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. >>> Denny >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >>> >>> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>> signature database 4714 (20091224) __ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4714 (20091224) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4727 (20091230) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4727 (20091230) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4727 (20091230) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 4727 (20091230) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
High Tom, I wasn't born in the 60's, I was born in 1972. But however, I have allot of old records that my mom dad grandpa and grandma had. My record collection goes all the way back to the mid 20's. But oh yes, I get what you are talking about. Some jazz musicians are trying to bring that 50's/60's sound back, but I don't think they're doing to well with it. But to me, it sounds really cool! But somehow, MP3's leaves something more to be desired. I wish there was a portable media player that could play ape wave and or any other lossless audio files. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:11 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Yeah..and now it doesn't even have that same intensity anymore; when I listen to a stereo recording, it almost sounds now like the same instruments are coming through both channels! Not so in the 60s; fact is..if you didn't have both speakers on, you didn't get all the instrumentation! Tom Kaufman To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
Hi! how about windows media player, or FS rReader, it can increes speed of the audio. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:26 AM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
Yep, there would be a difference but the higher the ABR then the smaller the difference between the resulting file and that encoded using high quality VBR. For example, if you set your ABR to 300kbps then ABR would steal a little from less complex parts of the music and use those to supplement parts of the music that are more complex and need more than 300kbps. The result is that ABR will try to maintain a jagged line around the 300kbps mark so imagine it just dropping slightly above and below the line through the music track. With VBR with a maximum of 320kbps then you are guaranteed that if a long part of the track needs 320kbps then it will get that. You don't have that guarantee with ABR because it may not have enough bits in hand from the less complex parts of the track to maintain 320kbps for the same amount of time and may instead cap it at 310kbps. ABR is a poor man's VBR where it is important that you can predict the file size. Much better than constant bit rates of less than 320kbps though. For example, a file at ABR of 256kbps will sound better than a file encoded with a constant bit rate of 256kbps. The reason being that the ABR file will be fluctuating just above and below the 256kbps mark as required whereas the constant bit rate will have been crudely chopped as soon as it needed to go above 256kbps. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Amie Slavin" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate So is there any difference between ABR set to a higher bit rate and VBR with the quality set to the highest? Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 27 December 2009 14:00 To: Kevin Lloyd; PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate and here's a reference to the choices around minimum bit rates when using VBR: CDex Manual File Edit Bookmark Options Help Contents Index Back Print Up << >> Bitrate Options: There are three types of bitrate options that you can specify for each the encoder (although some encoders may not allow any options). 1) Constant Bitrate (CBR) This is the default encoding mode, and also the most basic. In this mode, the bitrate will be the same throughout the whole file. So, a second of audio from one part of the file takes just as much disk space as a second from any other part of that file -- regardless of whether either part is silence, acoustically simple, or quite complex. This means that you are likely to hear distortion more in the complex parts than in the simple parts. The advantage of CBR formats is that even older players understand them, and that you can reliably predict the file size from the duration of the sound (or vice versa). 2) Average Bitrate (ABR) In this mode, you tell the encoder to aim for an average bitrate that you specify, skimping on the simpler parts of the music, and using higher bitrates for the parts of your music that are more complex. The result will be of higher quality than you'd get in a CBR encoded file of the same size. This mode is highly recommended over CBR. This encoding mode is similar to VBR. 3) Variable bitrate (VBR) In this mode, you say what level of quality you want in the output file, and the encoder compresses each second as best it can to get just that level of quality -- using less information to represent simpler parts of the song, and more information to represent the more complex parts. However, this mode relies heavily on the encoder's model of how you perceive quality, and could lead to a few "bad choices" in the encoding process. If possible, you may want to specify a minimum bitrate (e.g., 64 Kbps) to avoid those potential errors. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.118/2584 - Release Date: 12/23/09 19:02:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
Hi, Thanks John, for the explanation. Vicky - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:56 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Vicky, No, the voice is always in the middle. It just gives better separation of the other instruments. It is like having the keyboards in one speaker, the percussions in the other speaker. While the drums and bass are pan to both speakers. In the late 50's and early 60's, that is how early stereo was recorded. The music in one speaker, while the voices were in the other speaker. In the mid to late 60's, they got away from that. Putting the voices in the middle is pretty much the norm and has been cense 1965. Hope this helps you. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Victoria Vaughan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:24 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi, When you say, "Better separation", does this separate voices into one speaker and the music into the other? I wouldn't like that. However, when I had a base and treble equalizer, I could bring specific sounds into prominence, which I really liked. Sadly, it died. Vicky - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo As a footnote to this I'm sure I've read somewhere in the LAME documentation that Joint Stereo should be used for encoding at variable and lower bit rates so perhaps your explanation of joint stereo below goes some way to explaining this statement . On 27/12/2009, at 1:53 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ** Dane Trethowan From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Twitter: http://twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia 0390058589 Phone United States 8159261869 Fax: +61 3 9743 7954x MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 ** To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
i'm sorry tim im still trying to figure this out. What are some things that make the ptp inferior? i like to do my research and I have a little money to spend so I'm really trying to get to the bottom of it all. If thats possible. bb - Original Message - From: "Tim Grady" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:44 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents No reason to keep repeating yourself, that's the difference, which was the question asked. Now, there are reasons why I have said this, and although you may not like what's being said, really the PTP belongs in the discussion of digital recorders, because as a book player it is infierior to the Stream or Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:26 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFB&D support where RFB&D will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFB&D add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: "Denny Daughters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blan
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
interesting bb - Original Message - From: "Tim Grady" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:18 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be good enough? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream if you want MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFB&D support where RFB&D will be available soon on the Sense as soon as RFB&D add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any difference to you. Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. Hope this is helpful. Michael Barber - Original Message - From: "Denny Daughters" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Hello guys, I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the Blind books and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. Denny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4714 (20091224) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
So is there any difference between ABR set to a higher bit rate and VBR with the quality set to the highest? Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: 27 December 2009 14:00 To: Kevin Lloyd; PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate and here's a reference to the choices around minimum bit rates when using VBR: CDex Manual File Edit Bookmark Options Help Contents Index Back Print Up << >> Bitrate Options: There are three types of bitrate options that you can specify for each the encoder (although some encoders may not allow any options). 1) Constant Bitrate (CBR) This is the default encoding mode, and also the most basic. In this mode, the bitrate will be the same throughout the whole file. So, a second of audio from one part of the file takes just as much disk space as a second from any other part of that file -- regardless of whether either part is silence, acoustically simple, or quite complex. This means that you are likely to hear distortion more in the complex parts than in the simple parts. The advantage of CBR formats is that even older players understand them, and that you can reliably predict the file size from the duration of the sound (or vice versa). 2) Average Bitrate (ABR) In this mode, you tell the encoder to aim for an average bitrate that you specify, skimping on the simpler parts of the music, and using higher bitrates for the parts of your music that are more complex. The result will be of higher quality than you'd get in a CBR encoded file of the same size. This mode is highly recommended over CBR. This encoding mode is similar to VBR. 3) Variable bitrate (VBR) In this mode, you say what level of quality you want in the output file, and the encoder compresses each second as best it can to get just that level of quality -- using less information to represent simpler parts of the song, and more information to represent the more complex parts. However, this mode relies heavily on the encoder's model of how you perceive quality, and could lead to a few "bad choices" in the encoding process. If possible, you may want to specify a minimum bitrate (e.g., 64 Kbps) to avoid those potential errors. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.118/2584 - Release Date: 12/23/09 19:02:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
Does the PLextor handle vbr? Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 27 December 2009 00:15 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate So there we are, the first audio players I've heard of that won't touch VBR . On 27/12/2009, at 11:03 AM, Tim Noonan wrote: > Also, > > There are devices, even modern ones, which don't reliably, or indeed at all, > cope with VBR. > > The Olympus machines, even the DM-520 are a case in point - so use VBR with > care if you want to guarantee everyone and everything can play your MP3 > files. > > Regards > Tim > > Tim Noonan > Director, Vocal Branding Australia > Transforming products, brands and experiences so they Sound as great as they > look and feel! > > Phone: +61 419 779 669 > Web: www.vocalbranding.com.au/blog > Email: t...@vocalbranding.com.au > Twitter: www.twitter.com/VocalEssence > Skype: TimNoonan > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:05 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate > > Okay, I just consulted an audio engineer abut what you wrote about minimum > bit rates for VBR encoding and here's his response, it also talks about > setting VBR quality and I'll have a few words to say about this after his > quotation which follows: > >> Well, basically it depends on what you're trying to do. There are several > factors that contribute to VBR quality (apart from encoding quality settings > of course). Most immediately noticeable is the over-all VBR quality > setting, which `weights' the VBR result between the minimum and maximum you > set. Imagine VBR as a set of scales swinging everywhere between min. and > max. depending on what's going into the encode. VBR quality simply > determines how the scales are weighted, either more towards minimum or > maximum depending on what you set. The higher VBR Quality, the less the > encoder will `throw away', and so the more it will weight the encode towards > the higher end of the scale. If the quality is set high enough, you won't > achieve *anything* by increasing the minimum; all you'll do is make your > file larger for no benefit, since the encoder will waste a load of bandwidth > encoding things (such as silence or low frequencies) that don't need it. > Conversely, if your VBR Quality setting is too low, the encoder will throw > away so much that everything will get pushed towards the lower end, and so > the Minimum setting will make a great deal more difference. But even then, > all it will do is make your file bigger, and probably it won't help the > encode quality, since you shouldn't have set the quality so low in the first > place. >> >> So, basically, for normal operation, it's a complete waste of time pushing > up the minimum. The exception is if you have a hardware player that can't > cope with very low bitrates (our Omni DVD players were hopeless with > anything below 64KbPS), unless, _perhaps_ if the source is *very* noisy (an > old dodgy cassette) where you don't want noise causing a load of artifacts, > but you still want the file as small as possible. But under those > circumstances, you'd be far better off processing the original source and > removing as much noise as possible without damaging the audio _before_ > encoding. >> >> The only other reason you might want to push up the minimum is if the > encoder has a dodgy VBR algorithm that tends to push too much towards the > bottom of the scale, even when the VBR Quality setting is high. LAME's > `--vbr-old' algorithm is excellent, but `--vbr-New' still has problems. > Unfortunately, other encoders (such as Fraunhofer) are a *hell* of a lot > worse, so if you're forced to use them, it might be worth it. >> >> Anyway, hope this explains things; basically, unless you have a very > specific need, don't play with Min/Max bitrates - you're likely only to get > worse encodes and bigger files. > > Thank you kind Sir for your time and trouble so now to my additional > notation about VBR quality and this can add to confusion. When setting VBR > quality it works in the reverse as it looks, in other words the lower the > number the higher the VBR quality, 3 or 4 may be a good setting for music, > for mono audio or talking books, audio documentaries etc try say between 4 > and 6. > > On 27/12/2009, at 6:38 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > >> The only point I'd add to Dane's notes is that I have read advice around > not setting your variable floor too low. I'd suggest for music that you set > the floor to 128kbps rather than the suggestion below of 16kbps. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kevin >> E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Saturday, Decemb
RE: Pros and cons of varible bit rate
Thank to you and your friend for this explanation; very useful. Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 26 December 2009 22:05 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate Okay, I just consulted an audio engineer abut what you wrote about minimum bit rates for VBR encoding and here's his response, it also talks about setting VBR quality and I'll have a few words to say about this after his quotation which follows: > Well, basically it depends on what you're trying to do. There are several factors that contribute to VBR quality (apart from encoding quality settings of course). Most immediately noticeable is the over-all VBR quality setting, which `weights' the VBR result between the minimum and maximum you set. Imagine VBR as a set of scales swinging everywhere between min. and max. depending on what's going into the encode. VBR quality simply determines how the scales are weighted, either more towards minimum or maximum depending on what you set. The higher VBR Quality, the less the encoder will `throw away', and so the more it will weight the encode towards the higher end of the scale. If the quality is set high enough, you won't achieve *anything* by increasing the minimum; all you'll do is make your file larger for no benefit, since the encoder will waste a load of bandwidth encoding things (such as silence or low frequencies) that don't need it. Conversely, if your VBR Quality setting is too low, the encoder will throw away so much that everything will get pushed towards the lower end, and so the Minimum setting will make a great deal more difference. But even then, all it will do is make your file bigger, and probably it won't help the encode quality, since you shouldn't have set the quality so low in the first place. > > So, basically, for normal operation, it's a complete waste of time pushing up the minimum. The exception is if you have a hardware player that can't cope with very low bitrates (our Omni DVD players were hopeless with anything below 64KbPS), unless, _perhaps_ if the source is *very* noisy (an old dodgy cassette) where you don't want noise causing a load of artifacts, but you still want the file as small as possible. But under those circumstances, you'd be far better off processing the original source and removing as much noise as possible without damaging the audio _before_ encoding. > > The only other reason you might want to push up the minimum is if the encoder has a dodgy VBR algorithm that tends to push too much towards the bottom of the scale, even when the VBR Quality setting is high. LAME's `--vbr-old' algorithm is excellent, but `--vbr-New' still has problems. Unfortunately, other encoders (such as Fraunhofer) are a *hell* of a lot worse, so if you're forced to use them, it might be worth it. > > Anyway, hope this explains things; basically, unless you have a very specific need, don't play with Min/Max bitrates - you're likely only to get worse encodes and bigger files. Thank you kind Sir for your time and trouble so now to my additional notation about VBR quality and this can add to confusion. When setting VBR quality it works in the reverse as it looks, in other words the lower the number the higher the VBR quality, 3 or 4 may be a good setting for music, for mono audio or talking books, audio documentaries etc try say between 4 and 6. On 27/12/2009, at 6:38 AM, Kevin Lloyd wrote: > The only point I'd add to Dane's notes is that I have read advice around not setting your variable floor too low. I'd suggest for music that you set the floor to 128kbps rather than the suggestion below of 16kbps. > > Regards. > > Kevin > E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: Pros and cons of varible bit rate > > >> I suppose it comes down once again to personal preference, I've been using varriable bit rates for youears. >> >> As I understand it, encoding with a varriable bit rate takes a lot longer as the encoder looks at every sample of the song thus deciding what bit rate it should be encoded at, silence for example is encoded at a lower bit rate than a full sample of orchestra sound, minimum and maximum bit rates for variable encoding are set up with your encoding engine such as LAME so for the best and accurate results you're better off doing this sort of thing manually with a command line so use an app which supports this, Exact Audio Copy is an excellent choice here. >> >> Their are several methods of VBR encoding, "Old" and "new", "new" is quicker for those jobs you want out the door fast but quality isn't quite as good if you're picky, with today's flying processor speeds you may as well use "Old". >> >> Also note that some older players may not handle VBR playback though I haven't struck on
RE: Digital Recorders
HI Dane Thanks for this. I'm going for the Plextor, partly because a back-up DAISY player is a bonus, but mainly because my primary pro' recorder is the Sony PCM D50 which is usable rather than fully accessible, so rather than go for an unknown quantity, I'm figuring the full access offered by the PLextor is the clincher. Am still coveting an IPod Touch though; sounds excellent, and would much rather be using mainstream products. Looking forward to hearing more about how everyone gets on with the Touch, for future reference. Thanks again. Amie -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 21 December 2009 15:12 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Digital Recorders Okay, I'm not sure about the pricing of the PTP but the 32GB Ipod Touch with Voiceover starts from around $150.00. No, DAISY books won't play on the Ipod Touch at this time but are we talking players or recorders? Yes, the Ipod Touch is fully accessible or as accessible as the developers of applications such as Voxie Recorder Professional choose to make their applications, all the functionality is in the Ipod Touch or Iphone so its just a matter of pointing this out to the developers should the need arise and - thankfully - with Voxie, their's no need for this. Amie Slavin wrote: > So how to choose between IPod Touch and PTP then? IF we're talking the 32 > and 64 GB Touch versions then the price is pretty similar, is it not? > Anyone used the Touch as a recorder? Is it really fully accessible? > Also, probably silly question this, but will daisy books play on it, albeit > with the "legendary" daisy formatting stripped out? > Thanks > Amie > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > Sent: 21 December 2009 05:44 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Digital Recorders > > Hi! > > Okay, I've had a few private emails about the email I sent earlier > discussing the Iphone, everything I discussed also applies to the latter > versions of Ipod Touch both 32 and 64GB versions so as you can see! you > can have yourself quite a little cheap and accessible digital recorder > . > > > -- Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4706 (20091221) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.116/2579 - Release Date: 12/21/09 07:36:00 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: ITunes podcast question.
Hello: I guess I should have said the podcast subscription list. Cheers. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:12 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: ITunes podcast question. AAren't Podcasts just MP3 files? I mean if you go into the Podcasts folder I'm sure that's what you'll find. Jim Noseworthy wrote: > Hi Folks: > > Is there a way to export an ITunes podcast list to import in to another computer? > > Thanks all over the place gang. > > " He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose. " > Jim Elliot, > > > __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4726 (20091229) __ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > -- Dane Trethowan >From Melton Victoria Australia mailto:"grtd...@internode.on.net Phone United Kingdom 02032874641 Phone Australia :0390058589 Phone United States :8159261869 Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 Mobile/SMS +61 438 571201 MSN grtd...@dane-trethowan.net skype:grtdane12 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/grtdane blog: http://www.grtdane.wordpress.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4726 (20091229) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4726 (20091229) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
hi, you might want to check to see that settings are saved. it sounds like the program is defaulting to a specific setting. once you select normal stereo and save that setting, it should stay selected. les. Cd/Dvd Duplication & Custom Printing Customer Service Les Gordon Phone: (267)329-8150 email: sa...@cdrdvdr.com web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:07 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo I have tried Nero 7 and Express Rip. Same results. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Garry, Have you tried using another audio file converter? I use Switch to convert audio files from one format to another. Mostly, I convert them to MP3's so that I can put them on my cell phone. I have it sat to normal stereo and constant bit rate for highest quality sound. This is just a suggestion that I thought mite help you solve your problem. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:53 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo The problem I'm having is that my system won't produce regular stereo. Everything comes out in joint and variable bit rate regardless of software settings. It's Winamp which I'm using to tell me what my stats on a particular file happen to be. Any thoughts? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lloyd" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
yamaha s90xs
hello, does anyone on the list either have one or used the new yamaha s90xs? this is supposed to be super user friendly. just looking for tips about it. thanks les. Cd/Dvd Duplication & Custom Printing Customer Service Les Gordon Phone: (267)329-8150 email: sa...@cdrdvdr.com web: http://www.cdrdvdr.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
No reason to keep repeating yourself, that's the difference, which was the question asked. Now, there are reasons why I have said this, and although you may not like what's being said, really the PTP belongs in the discussion of digital recorders, because as a book player it is infierior to the Stream or Booksense. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van Deventer Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:26 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents >I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav >format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? > > Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be > good enough? > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber > Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You > can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream > if you want > MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFB&D > support where RFB&D will be available soon on the Sense as soon as > RFB&D add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of > electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the > booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to > listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. > The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any > difference to you. > Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From > what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new > features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. > Hope this is helpful. > > Michael Barber > - Original Message - > From: "Denny Daughters" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > >> Hello guys, >>I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. >> What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either >> one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the >> Blind books > >> and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D >> Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 >> machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with >> the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the >> speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both >> machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. >> Denny >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4714 (20091224) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4714 (20091224) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-au
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
Horses for courses then as I said before. It depends on what you want to do. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady Sent: 30 December 2009 12:18 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents >I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav >format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? > > Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be > good enough? > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber > Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You > can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream > if you want > MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFB&D > support where RFB&D will be available soon on the Sense as soon as > RFB&D add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of > electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the > booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to > listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. > The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any > difference to you. > Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From > what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new > features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. > Hope this is helpful. > > Michael Barber > - Original Message - > From: "Denny Daughters" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > >> Hello guys, >>I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. >> What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either >> one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the >> Blind books > >> and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D >> Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 >> machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with >> the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the >> speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both >> machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. >> Denny >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4714 (20091224) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4714 (20091224) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
The real difference is that the Plextalk is an accessible recorder which happens to have some of the features of a book reader. The booksense and VR Stream are book readers which happen to record. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brett Boyer Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents So now what are the main differences between the book sense and the plextalk? bb - Original Message - From: "André van Deventer" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:31 AM Subject: RE: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents >I have often wondered why you would have the ability to record in .wav >format and then not have the capibility to set a proper recording level? > > Surely if you do not need to set recording levels then mp3 would be > good enough? > > > > -Original Message- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org > [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Michael D. Barber > Sent: 24 December 2009 02:17 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > Hi: Both units will play NLS books as well as audible.com books. You > can record both wav and MP3 files on the booksense but on the stream > if you want > MP3 files you have to convert them. The Stream already offers RFB&D > support where RFB&D will be available soon on the Sense as soon as > RFB&D add it to their list of Daisy players. If you read a lot of > electronic documents or bookshare books, you probably want the > booksense because of the Kate and Paul voices which are much better to > listen to than the synthesizer on the Stream. > The speaker volume is better on the Sense, if this makes any > difference to you. > Navigation is different on the Booksense, but not hard to learn. From > what I've been hearing, the Stream is going to be adding some new > features soon, but you will have to pay to have them. > Hope this is helpful. > > Michael Barber > - Original Message - > From: "Denny Daughters" > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents > > >> Hello guys, >>I've listened to reviews on both the book cents and victor stream. >> What kinds of things should I consider when looking at getting either >> one or the other? I want to be able to play NLS, Recording For the >> Blind books > >> and MP3s among other things. The book cents is getting the RFB and D >> Support. What other things should I consider when looking at these 2 >> machines? How is the response time between the 2? Any problems with >> the 2 machines? Can you record in wave format and stereo? What's the >> speed compression like?? Can you speed up music and books on both >> machines if you want? Thank you guys for any feedback. >> Denny >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 4714 (20091224) __ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 4714 (20091224) __ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
I'm not sure what other programs to check with. And, your right, I'm beginning to be suspicious. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lloyd" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo I'd be suspicious of Winamp then if you're saying that you're choosing stereo rather than joint but Winamp keeps telling you that your results are joint. Have you checked by looking at the properties in windows explorer or any other programs that provide MP3 file informaition? Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 6:53 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo The problem I'm having is that my system won't produce regular stereo. Everything comes out in joint and variable bit rate regardless of software settings. It's Winamp which I'm using to tell me what my stats on a particular file happen to be. Any thoughts? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lloyd" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents
I would check to see if the pauses are particular to the same books. If so, it's not likely to be the machine. - Original Message - From: "Tim Grady" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream or Book Cents Who told you that? I think you should read the manual. On Dec 26, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Terrilynne wrote: I have a Victor, and I don't like it much. The only thing that keeps me using it is that I can download my own books, when I want them, and no library is telling me that I have too many or I need to send them back. I find many things about the Victor irritating. For example, I hate how slowly the machine goes through a list of NLS books. You can't just hit the button five times and be five books further up or down the list, you have to listen to it read every single number, with puases between. And, sometimes, it stops after a number and pauses for a few seconds before reading either the book title or moving onto the next number. I am supposing that they used less than the best options for software. TerriLynne To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
I have tried Nero 7 and Express Rip. Same results. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Garry, Have you tried using another audio file converter? I use Switch to convert audio files from one format to another. Mostly, I convert them to MP3's so that I can put them on my cell phone. I have it sat to normal stereo and constant bit rate for highest quality sound. This is just a suggestion that I thought mite help you solve your problem. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:53 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo The problem I'm having is that my system won't produce regular stereo. Everything comes out in joint and variable bit rate regardless of software settings. It's Winamp which I'm using to tell me what my stats on a particular file happen to be. Any thoughts? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lloyd" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo
That's sad to hear. My sincerest condolences. - Original Message - From: "Richard Costa" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 11:45 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo To all concerned, I have sad news. Richard passed on December 12, 2009 of a heart attack. Some may know already, however, I'm sending this information to all of Richards email contacts. It was so sudden with no warning. I know Richard receives many emails each day and I want to inform all those who contacted him. Sincerely, Anthony and Teresa Costa - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High Garry, Have you tried using another audio file converter? I use Switch to convert audio files from one format to another. Mostly, I convert them to MP3's so that I can put them on my cell phone. I have it sat to normal stereo and constant bit rate for highest quality sound. This is just a suggestion that I thought mite help you solve your problem. My best regards. John. - Original Message - From: "Gary Petraccaro" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:53 AM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo The problem I'm having is that my system won't produce regular stereo. Everything comes out in joint and variable bit rate regardless of software settings. It's Winamp which I'm using to tell me what my stats on a particular file happen to be. Any thoughts? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lloyd" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo My understanding is that joint stereo is a psychoacoustic trick to try and make lower bit rate encoded files sound better in terms of their channel separation. I don't believe the monoblock analogy is strictly correct. All the advice I have seen is to use normal stereo for decent encoded files at bit rates of 192kbps and higher and only use the joint stereo psychoacoustic trick on very poor files encoded at lower bit rates. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:23 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi! aha, that make sence, thanks so much for this info. then I will set it to joint stereo for further conversions. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo High George, Joint stereo is, like you have a pare of speakers, but you have a mono block amplifier on each one. Regular stereo, is having those same pare of speakers hooked up to a stereo amplifier. The joint stereo, gives better stereo channel separation then the regular stereo. Hope this helps. John. - Original Message - From: "Jörgen Hansson" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 9:39 AM Subject: a question about joint stereo and normal stereo Hi all! I have a question which is making me curious. when I'm converting wave to mp3 in a convertion program or so, I can see something called joint stereo, and I can also choose if I would like to have it in joint stereo or just stereo. my question is, what's the difference between joint stereo and stereo, I can't seem to hear any difference at all there. Regards, Jörgen Hansson! Tel +46 703-601296 www.jorgenhansson.com skype: djtropical4532 To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4722 (20091228) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
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Dear Friends I am trying to install the vi-Player it keeps asking for the cerial number but when I type it in it says not valid can any body help. all the best from sean waiting. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: how do you play mp3 audio books?
this program works fine. It will allow you to both speed up or slow down an audio file without changing the key. - Original Message - From: "Johnny Angel!" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: how do you play mp3 audio books? Briaqn, Check this out: From: "Wendy Sharpe" To: "'Eyes Window'" Subject: MaPlEr I just realised my message to David was sent just to him, and I wanted to send the URL to everyone, so here is my message below. This sounds like a really good program. I am definitely going to buy it. The link, for anyone interested, is: http://www.mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php You can download an MP3 presentation, which I have just listened to, and I am really impressed. Wendy At 08:26 PM 12/29/2009, you wrote: hi matthew hmm well I have tried winamp, but haven't found a usable solution to increasing speed. Brian - Original Message - From: "Matthew" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:11 AM Subject: RE: how do you play mp3 audio books? Hello Brian. I would recommend winamp. You can set bookmarks. They will also play in order that they are set in the folder. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: how do you play mp3 audio books? hi, At times I come across good audio books in the mp3 format. typically they are named or numbered and stored in a single folder. but which player is capable of playing these regarding to the following criteria? 1. they should be played in the right alphanummerical order they are stored in. 2. you should be able to pause your reading, end the program, and continue from the right spot the next time you want to listen. 3. you should be able to increase speed, so you wont fall asleep before the first mp3 has ended. grin Is this possible, and what solution would you recommend? Thanks in advance, and happy new year to all of you nice audio freaks out there! Brian To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org ______ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4727 (20091230) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org