Squeezebox Boom, thanks!

2011-04-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi and thanks to those on list who recommended the Squeezebox Boom, Its not 
often that I'm amazed by a product but the Squeezebox Boom and the Squeezebox 
system is exactly that, amazing!

The sound out of the Boom is incredibly good given its size, can't fault it 
there.

Now would someone mind giving me a few tips as to the layout of the front panel 
on the unit and the controls on the remote controller? That would be very much 
appreciated.

I like the fact that you can remote control the Boom from your computer, your 
Ipad, well almost anything! that connects to a network smile, absolutely 
brilliant!



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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and 
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine 
with mixed results.

Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:
By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think 
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs 
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that 
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only 
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is 
accessible already.

,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg 
and...@pipkrokodil.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:
Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange 
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this 
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works 
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main 
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can 
do to make this happen?

TIA
bb
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Bardia Zakeri

hi!
But i had vlc and windows media player.
and sometimes i use  itunes
and earlier i had use winamp  and realplayer but  realplayer i  dont  like 
it

but winamp is ok
but  axesibel podcaster  windows media player  and vlc its better for me.
now.
but in itunes  you can  use for podcasts to .
but i dont have use  foobar .
my  qwestion is can i use this with jaws?
/Bardia
- Original Message - 
From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and 
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine with 
mixed results.

Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:
By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think it's 
because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs and don't 
like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that foobar is one 
of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only 
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is accessible 
already.

,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg 
and...@pipkrokodil.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:
Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange 
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this 
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works 
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main playlist 
listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can do to make 
this happen?

TIA
bb
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Audio Production and voice over
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nero 8 and nero burning rom

2011-04-15 Thread Alan Pollard
Hi List,I have Nero 8 essentials on my xp machine,however when nero 8 was 
installed  the nero burning rom  compponent was not activated I would be most 
appreciative if someone could explain how I should go about reinstalling the 
above.Thanks in advance Alan 
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capturing flash video

2011-04-15 Thread Robert doc Wright
does anyone know of a method of capturing and converting to audio?

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those 33s and 45s
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 Yes i totally agree with you.
 Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
 taking risks at all with their computers.
 Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
 with mixed results.
 Some programs work some don't.
 However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
 /A
 
 Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:
 By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
 it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
 and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that
 foobar is one of the best media players out there.
 I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only
 thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
 accessible already.
 ,sigh.
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 - Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg
 and...@pipkrokodil.se
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
 Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


 Hi!
 Its a shame its not working with we.
 I have had the same problems as you.
 Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
 Hal and nvda also works great with it.
 /A

 Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:
 Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange
 reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this
 wonderful audio program work with WE?
 Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works
 with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
 playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can
 do to make this happen?
 TIA
 bb
 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Tom Kaufman
Christopher and list:  Amen!  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  I've never 
tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) but I so far 
have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to change?  What does 
Foover do that Winamp doesn't?  I guess what I'm saying is: if I felt the 
need to go with a different player, I'd probably give this Foover a try. 
But currently, Winamp seems to work okay for me!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:

By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg
and...@pipkrokodil.se
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:

Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can
do to make this happen?
TIA
bb
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Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread James Scholes
Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the 
narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There 
is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to 
stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody 
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological, 
political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current 
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not 
adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software 
or make change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest, 
knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to 
locate, use and assess new software.  But asking others what appeals to 
them about other products is pointless.  If I were to tell you that 
Foobar has a very handy plug-in available for previewing sections of 
songs, and that it comes in very useful when broadcasting internet radio 
shows, would that apply to you?  If I said that it uses less RAM than 
WinAmp, would you care?  For all I know, your computer might be a 
powerhouse of a machine with an amount of memory that makes high RAM 
usage insignificant.


I should also note that Foobar is extremely popular, and that popularity 
is increasing constantly.  This somewhat removes the notion that you 
either look for new software or you don't; you can be alerted to the 
existence of a new software application simply by reading status updates 
on a social networking website, someone's e-mail signature, an article 
on a blog related to a topic you were actually investigating, etc.  I 
didn't find Foobar through research into new media players; I found it 
through a software recommendation.


Previously, Tom Kaufman said:
Christopher and list:  Amen!  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  I've 
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) 
but I so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to 
change?  What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't?  I guess what I'm 
saying is: if I felt the need to go with a different player, I'd 
probably give this Foover a try. But currently, Winamp seems to work 
okay for me!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:

By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Tom Kaufman
Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what makes 
it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even needed, 
nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not a media 
player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to some 
folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for its 
usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that makes 
me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until you have 
tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an existing 
WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of features and 
extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the narrow-minded 
view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There is *always* 
room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to stand out and 
hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody took such a 
stilted view of development, whether it be technological, political, 
economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current set-up 
is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not adverse to 
people sitting back and leaving others to test new software or make 
change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest, knowledge 
and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to locate, use and 
assess new software.  But asking others what appeals to them about other 
products is pointless.  If I were to tell you that Foobar has a very handy 
plug-in available for previewing sections of songs, and that it comes in 
very useful when broadcasting internet radio shows, would that apply to 
you?  If I said that it uses less RAM than WinAmp, would you care?  For 
all I know, your computer might be a powerhouse of a machine with an 
amount of memory that makes high RAM usage insignificant.


I should also note that Foobar is extremely popular, and that popularity 
is increasing constantly.  This somewhat removes the notion that you 
either look for new software or you don't; you can be alerted to the 
existence of a new software application simply by reading status updates 
on a social networking website, someone's e-mail signature, an article on 
a blog related to a topic you were actually investigating, etc.  I didn't 
find Foobar through research into new media players; I found it through a 
software recommendation.


Previously, Tom Kaufman said:
Christopher and list:  Amen!  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  I've 
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) but I 
so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to change? 
What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't?  I guess what I'm saying is: if 
I felt the need to go with a different player, I'd probably give this 
Foover a try. But currently, Winamp seems to work okay for me!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:

By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like 

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Anders Holmberg

Hi!
Foobar is smaller and faster.
However the accessibility issue isn't a problem for me as i use nvda 
most of the time.
But as jaws and hal works with foobar its very strange that window eyes 
doesn't work.

Foobar works for me most of the time.
However i have other players here if i need too.
/A

Tom Kaufman skrev 2011-04-15 16:54:
Christopher and list:  Amen!  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  I've 
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) 
but I so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to 
change?  What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't?  I guess what I'm 
saying is: if I felt the need to go with a different player, I'd 
probably give this Foover a try. But currently, Winamp seems to work 
okay for me!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:

By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg
and...@pipkrokodil.se
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:

Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can
do to make this happen?
TIA
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Tim Crawford (GI4OPH)

Hi,

Speaking of Foobar, I would be curious to hear from users which particular 
shortcut key combinations you've assigned for the main program functions.


I'm about to embark on setting up a few short cut keys, and would be 
interested to  have some ideas of what has been found to work well.


Thanks,

Tim.

Bangor, N. Ireland.

Skype:  tim-crawford

- Original Message - 
From: Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Foobar is smaller and faster.
However the accessibility issue isn't a problem for me as i use nvda most 
of the time.
But as jaws and hal works with foobar its very strange that window eyes 
doesn't work.

Foobar works for me most of the time.
However i have other players here if i need too.
/A

Tom Kaufman skrev 2011-04-15 16:54:
Christopher and list:  Amen!  If it ain't broke, don't fix it!  I've 
never tried Foover (I've no doubt that it's probably a good player) but I 
so far have had good luck with Winamp, so why would I want to change? 
What does Foover do that Winamp doesn't?  I guess what I'm saying is: if 
I felt the need to go with a different player, I'd probably give this 
Foover a try. But currently, Winamp seems to work okay for me!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Well, I totally disagree with this statement. Maybe I hang around with
particularly cautious sighted people or particularly adventurous blind
people, but I don't find blind computer users any more reluctant to try
new applications than sighted people. IMHO, this is a dangerous
stereotype, maybe caused by spending more time on blindness related
mailing lists than mailing lists frequented by the general public.

That being said, I also don't blame anyone who is happy with what
they're using and isn't looking to change. If it isn't broken, don't
fix it. I used to spend all of my time looking for a better media
player, but then I decided I'd rather spend my time listening to music
than playing around with the various accessibility foibles of the
different media players out there.

On 15/04/11 03:48, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Yes i totally agree with you.
Sometimes i think blind people are more afraid of security risks and
taking risks at all with their computers.
Personally i have tried several programs for windows on this machine
with mixed results.
Some programs work some don't.
However foobar is the greatest player i've tried.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-14 21:15:

By now you would think somebody would have done something. I think
it's because people who are blind stick to there one or two programs
and don't like to explore and try hnew things. If they only knew that
foobar is one of the best media players out there.
I'm sure it doesn't need to be a very detailed set file since the only
thing W E won't read is the main list view everything else is
accessible already.
,sigh.
bb
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- Original Message - From: Anders Holmberg
and...@pipkrokodil.se
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi!
Its a shame its not working with we.
I have had the same problems as you.
Suggest that you tell the devs of we to make a set file for it.
Hal and nvda also works great with it.
/A

Brett Boyer skrev 2011-04-13 23:04:

Hi. I'm trying to use foobar with window-eyes and for some strange
reason it is not working. Anyone have any ideas on how to make this
wonderful audio program work with WE?
Jfw seems okay with it but I don't own a current version that works
with windows 7. The only thing that doesn't work is the main
playlist listview. Any techys out there got ani idea on what I can
do to make this happen?
TIA
bb
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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Brett Boyer
Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years ago 
I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is tagging. 
Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) I knew it 
was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't get me started 
on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging files and / or 
folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it is. 
I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to say I 
think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind people more 
so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have discovered 
programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen access 
software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of these 
program that can help you create music by making a few selections and just 
singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and couldn't do a 
thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking it out with all 
of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but James 
had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what makes 
it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not a 
media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for its 
usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that makes 
me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until you have 
tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an existing 
WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of features 
and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the 
narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There 
is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to 
stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody 
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological, 
political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current set-up 
is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not adverse to 
people sitting back and leaving others to test new software or make 
change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest, 
knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to 
locate, use and assess new software.  But asking others what appeals to 
them about other products is pointless.  If I were to tell you that 
Foobar has a very handy plug-in available for previewing sections of 
songs, and that it comes in very useful when broadcasting internet radio 
shows, would that apply to you?  If I said that it uses less RAM than 
WinAmp, would you care?  For all I know, your computer might be a 
powerhouse of a machine with an amount of memory that makes high RAM 
usage insignificant.


I should also note that Foobar is extremely popular, and that popularity 
is increasing constantly.  This somewhat removes the notion that you 
either look for new software or you don't; you can be alerted to the 
existence of a new software application simply by reading status updates 
on a 

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Tom Kaufman
Hello Brett and list:  I'm sure that Foobar is a fine program; all I really 
was meaning to say was: at this time, I don't know that I have a need for 
anything other than what I'm already using (Winamp) if I used a program to 
create playlists and such (from what you are saying) Foobar might be a 
better one than Winamp; it's something that (now that my curiosity has been 
somewhat aroused) I might look at it, just to see what it does!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) 
I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't 
get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging 
files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it is. 
I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to say 
I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind people 
more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the 
narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There 
is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to 
stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody 
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological, 
political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current 
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not 
adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software 
or make change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest, 
knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to 
locate, use and assess new software.  But asking others what appeals to 
them about other products is pointless.  If I were to tell you that 
Foobar has a very 

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Brett Boyer
Hi Tom. Please don't think I was criticizing you personally. Obviously if 
you're happy with what you have than by all means...
Foobar is a customizable and easy-to-use program. It's not however, for 
beginner since there have not been alot of podcast or scripts or whatever to 
make newby's comfortable. Again I wasn't criticizing anyone specifically.

bb

Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hello Brett and list:  I'm sure that Foobar is a fine program; all I 
really was meaning to say was: at this time, I don't know that I have a 
need for anything other than what I'm already using (Winamp) if I used a 
program to create playlists and such (from what you are saying) Foobar 
might be a better one than Winamp; it's something that (now that my 
curiosity has been somewhat aroused) I might look at it, just to see what 
it does!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) 
I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't 
get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging 
files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it 
is. I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to 
say I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind 
people more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take 
the narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it. 
There is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't 
have to stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If 
everybody took such a stilted view of 

Is it normal for Exact Audio Copy to give an error when there's no disc in the drive?

2011-04-15 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

 

The subject says it all.  I start Exact Audio Copy with nothing in the
drive, and I get the following.

 

Unhandled exception

at 02B410DE - ACCESS_VIOLATION

OK

 

I prefer to start a program with nothing in the drive.  If it turns out I
need to have a CD in the drive that's fine.  I just want to know if this is
normal behavior or not.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

GO REDS!

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

kmi...@windstream.net

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Re: Is it normal for Exact Audio Copy to give an error when there's nodisc in the drive?

2011-04-15 Thread Tim Crawford

Kevin,

I'm not experencing this here, using EAC 0.99 pb5 running under windows xp.
I simply get the message no audio cd in drive

Cheers,

Tim.
Bangor, N. Ireland.

Skype:  tim_crawford

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Subject: Is it normal for Exact Audio Copy to give an error when there's 
nodisc in the drive?




Hi.



The subject says it all.  I start Exact Audio Copy with nothing in the
drive, and I get the following.



Unhandled exception

at 02B410DE - ACCESS_VIOLATION

OK



I prefer to start a program with nothing in the drive.  If it turns out I
need to have a CD in the drive that's fine.  I just want to know if this 
is

normal behavior or not.



Thanks in advance.



GO REDS!

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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How to find an audiodescribed version of a dvd using a PC?

2011-04-15 Thread Kathy S.
Okay, as usual when I come crying to you guys for help, I'm at myy rope's
end.  Just recently bought the 3-disk dvd set of Harry Potter and the
Deathly Hallows Part 1.  As I understand it, Warner Brothers is supposed to
release the HP dvd's with audio description, perhaps on thei Blue Ray
version which I believe is one of these disks.  I would love to find that
particular version using my PC if at all possible.  I'm using Windows 7
64-bit, for what it's worth.  I'm running Jaws 12.

If anyone can help me out, I'd be most grateful.  If I can't play these
dvd's on a PC but can on a dvd player, feel free to write me off-list if you
can' give me some tips.

Thanks lots.

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Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread kim kelly

How does one get foobar?
And will it work with Jaws or System Access.

Kim Kelly

Skype:
richies12
Alternate Email Address:

kim...@samobile.net

Richard Brooks is also  on Skype:
his Skype name is:
richie3355

Have a nice day.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) 
I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't 
get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging 
files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it is. 
I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to say 
I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind people 
more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the 
narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There 
is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to 
stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody 
took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological, 
political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current 
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not 
adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software 
or make change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest, 
knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to 
locate, use and assess new software.  But asking others what appeals to 
them about other products is pointless.  If I were to tell you that 
Foobar has a very handy plug-in available for previewing sections of 
songs, and that it comes in very useful when broadcasting internet radio 
shows, would that apply to you?  If I said that it uses less RAM than 
WinAmp, would you care?  For 

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread Brett Boyer

Hi. The site is:
www.foobar2000.org
and yes it seems to work with both system access and JFW.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
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From: kim kelly kim...@cableone.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



How does one get foobar?
And will it work with Jaws or System Access.

Kim Kelly

Skype:
richies12
Alternate Email Address:

kim...@samobile.net

Richard Brooks is also  on Skype:
his Skype name is:
richie3355

Have a nice day.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) 
I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't 
get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging 
files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it 
is. I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to 
say I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind 
people more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take 
the narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it. 
There is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't 
have to stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If 
everybody took such a stilted view of development, whether it be 
technological, political, economical or otherwise, the world would go 
nowhere.


If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current 
set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not 
adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software 
or make change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of 
interest, knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or 
unwilling to locate, use and assess 

Re: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread kim kelly

Thanks. I will check that out when I can.

Kim Kelly

Skype:
richies12
Alternate Email Address:

kim...@samobile.net

Richard Brooks is also  on Skype:
his Skype name is:
richie3355

Have a nice day.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



Hi. The site is:
www.foobar2000.org
and yes it seems to work with both system access and JFW.
bb
Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: kim kelly kim...@cableone.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes



How does one get foobar?
And will it work with Jaws or System Access.

Kim Kelly

Skype:
richies12
Alternate Email Address:

kim...@samobile.net

Richard Brooks is also  on Skype:
his Skype name is:
richie3355

Have a nice day.

- Original Message - 
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It 
was becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for 
other alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over 
the competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought 
you didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable 
as you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and 
whatever all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new 
playlists and reloading files.
And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total 
mess) I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre 
(don't get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for 
tagging files and / or folders.
Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it 
is. I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it 
to say I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and 
blind people more so than sighted folks.
Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!

thanks
bb


Brett Boyer
Audio Production and voice over
http://brettboyer.voices.com
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!

Tom Kaufman
- Original Message - 
From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, 
not a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this 
appeals to some folks.


I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a 
half years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate 
for its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar 
that makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and 
until you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict 
with an existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the 
list of features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified 
to take the narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't 
fix it. There is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement 
shouldn't have to stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice 
it.  If everybody took such a stilted view of development, whether it 
be technological, political, economical or otherwise, the world 

Controller app for Squeezebox Boom on Iphone/Ipad

2011-04-15 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi!

I know there are list members out there who use the controller app on their 
iphone/ipad, can they write back giving me the name of the app to look for?

Thanks!



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RE: foobar and window-eyes

2011-04-15 Thread André van Deventer
Works extremely well with Jaws.

 

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of kim kelly
Sent: 16 April 2011 04:12 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes

How does one get foobar?
And will it work with Jaws or System Access.

Kim Kelly

Skype:
richies12
 Alternate Email Address:

kim...@samobile.net

Richard Brooks is also  on Skype:
 his Skype name is:
richie3355

Have a nice day.

- Original Message -
From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


 Hey all. Tom I appreciate where you're coming from. However a few years 
 ago I got fed up with winamp adding more stuff that I didn't need. It was 
 becoming bulkier than I wanted and so I went snooping around for other 
 alternatives. I will give you one main advantage foobar has over the 
 competition. Multiple playlists. That's right something you thought you 
 didn't need or at least I thought I didn't need until I realized how 
 wonderful it was. With this tiny little player that is as customizable as 
 you can get. I can now have my audio books, TV shows, music, and whatever 
 all in the same window. I don't have to keep opening new playlists and 
 reloading files.
 And one more great thing about Foobar, that I just rediscovered, is 
 tagging. Since my music library is a total mess. (I do mean a total mess) 
 I knew it was time to retag everything from album names to genre (don't 
 get me started on genres) Foobar has a beautiful interface for tagging 
 files and / or folders.
 Maybe I should do a podcast on it because I'm so thrilled how great it is.

 I've been looking for an idea for a podcast anyway. But suffice it to say 
 I think a lot of people are scared to go outside the box and blind people 
 more so than sighted folks.
 Let's face it, if I didn't go outside the box I never would have 
 discovered programs like Foobar about 3 years ago.
 I understand the fear of trying something new especially when screen 
 access software is picky and you never know what you're going to get.
 I recently read an article on a program called Songsmith. It's one of 
 these program that can help you create music by making a few selections 
 and just singing in to your microphone. I found it, downloaded, and 
 couldn't do a thing with it. But at least I tried and I'm still checking 
 it out with all of the screen readers I have. (btw no luck so far)
 Ok sorry for the long post I usually don't have this much to say, but 
 James had such a great message I felt empowered!!!
 thanks
 bb


 Brett Boyer
 Audio Production and voice over
 http://brettboyer.voices.com
 - Original Message - 
 From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


 Okay; Foobar, Foover. whatever; all I was attempting to ask is: what 
 makes it a better player (audio player, media player..whatever!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message - 
 From: James Scholes ja...@jls-radio.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: foobar and window-eyes


 Your attention to detail (i.e. spelling Foobar with a V) would suggest 
 that you have not considered the very real possibility that Foobar may 
 contain features that, up-to-now, you have not considered you even 
 needed, nor have you considered that Foobar2000 is an audio player, not 
 a media player.  The emphasis is on audio playback, and this appeals to 
 some folks.

 I'll admit that I switched to Foobar2000 from WinAmp about 2 and a half 
 years ago, and haven't looked back.  But I'm not here to advocate for 
 its usage, nor to outline in great detail what it is about Foobar that 
 makes me prefer it over WinAmp.  That is for you to decide, and until 
 you have tried the product (which is free and does not conflict with an 
 existing WinAmp installation) or at the very least studied the list of 
 features and extra plug-ins available, you are not qualified to take the

 narrow-minded view that if something ain't broke, don't fix it.  There

 is *always* room for improvement, and that improvement shouldn't have to

 stand out and hit you in the face for you to notice it.  If everybody 
 took such a stilted view of development, whether it be technological, 
 political, economical or otherwise, the world would go nowhere.

 If you do not wish to try other products, as you feel your current 
 set-up is adequate for your needs, that is absolutely fine.  I am not 
 adverse to people sitting back and leaving others to test new software 
 or make change.  There are legitimate reasons, such as lack of interest,

 knowledge and/or skill that may make you incapable, or unwilling to 
 locate, use and assess new software.  But asking others what